I honestly think that one reason I understand computers (i.e. when people say they don't get "pointer" I look at them like they said, "I don't get this air concept... it's so confusing... I can't see it!") is from working with 6502 early on.
Why... it was uber-simple, limited number of registers and instructions. But every TYPE of instruction was there, and the machine was laid out before you in a very comprehensible way.
People being taught OOP in school now don't even know they are being indoctrinated in an 80's theory that hasn't proven itself. I love OOP if it's Object Orient Pragmatism... but the purism that is taught by the faithful is a disservice.
I think it was much easier to start learning computering in the 80's with things like 6502 than to jump in now where you are told you don't really care how something like the 6502 works.
Now, this, this is overrated (I'm gonna use the Your-A-Special-Poster bonus this time... get ready for some FreedomGiving on your ass!)
um, on second thought, anonymous! you'll never figure out who I am...
Oh wait, it's obvious who I am. You villian.
By the way, could we get a little island for the MSychophants and the JavaFaithful to inhabit... or a spaceship with two more to follow for the rest of us. Please? Please?
From what I've seen, Java itself was a knock-off of VB. VB done "right" according to Sun thinking (supposedly, though I guess some not in the Java group don't think that the JVM, for example, really is developed the "Sun way").
For MS to take ideas from Java to the next level is really just reaquiring access to this virtualized machine world where you protect the programmer as if... as if... they were but a user! (little joke there, very little).
Although I'm no bigot... I say this all as someone that has grown tired and distrustful of Microsoft. Since I have ten years of Windows development experience, I think I gave them a shot... so I blame them not me for my distrust.
... that one reason things like Passport have failed (so far) is because of the people running around saying the sky is falling?
People not trusting Passport and making a noise about it is probably one reason there were few takers outside Microsoft. Note: Microsoft is using it... and every Windows user will be using Passport at least to deal with MS.
If you don't see that Microsoft is trying to close the currently open x86 architecture so they can charge anyone that wants to make software for it... then you are not paying attention.
If someone comes up with a crazy conspiracy... ok, be doubtful. But if that crazy conspiracy would make someone a lot of money, check into it.
The want to Xbox the whole PC world. Frankly, I think it's more than they can do, but it is clearly where they want to go today.
right... I'd much rather you get hit by a LASER from space than have to deal with a misbehaving traffic light.
By the way, how can a chip in your car make the engine blow up? Is it like that virus that will format your hard drive and eat all the good leftovers in your fridge and unspay your dog?
but in spoken language these homonyms are distinguished by context, and that works as well with spelling errors related to them. It does not seem like a case where ambiguity is introduced.
IMO, they both can be proofreading errors.
I think it's largely a function of this being as informal as a watercooler conversation, or even less formal really. Also, good spelling is not really a magical universal IQ test. Poor spelling does not really tell someone about intelligence... or even literacy!
I look back fifteen or even ten years ago and I'm blown away that we have a ubiquitous global network that is a household word. It's stunning.
Btw, the huge majority of businesses, in general, fail within five years. With the internet bubble, they were just all synched to more or less the same five years.
the fundamental philosophies of Linux are not compatible with today's end user.
Except they are... the general philosophy really is... it's the philosophy of the end user that counts. As linux gets more end users... the statistical average of the "linux" philosophy will seem to shift, but in reality it hasn't, because the point is "use if for what you want, how you want, and change it as you see fit."
Which is really just a paraphrasing in my words of the rest of your post, I think.:)
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you know... that was clearly flamebait! Not a troll. Uneducated vermin.
Would somebody please tell me what they are thinking.
See, now this one is a troll.
Good lord. Am I losing karma... or spending it?
which is no doubt why the "shutter" was involved.
You signed up for that account years ago, just to post this message didn't you, Mr enter the Apple Monitor!? fiendish.
>What in god's green earth makes you think life was simpler and better than now?
How about room and board paid by someone else who even wipes your ass for you for a few years. Holy Nell... that's always was why it was better.
It was a little bitter, but hey, the Apple still looks good...
it's standing by those students to the last, just like it said it would... what a lovely thing they are.
Why? Because they are full of Woz!
We're off to see the Wozzard, the Wonderful Wozzard of Iz.
I honestly think that one reason I understand computers (i.e. when people say they don't get "pointer" I look at them like they said, "I don't get this air concept... it's so confusing... I can't see it!") is from working with 6502 early on.
Why... it was uber-simple, limited number of registers and instructions. But every TYPE of instruction was there, and the machine was laid out before you in a very comprehensible way.
People being taught OOP in school now don't even know they are being indoctrinated in an 80's theory that hasn't proven itself. I love OOP if it's Object Orient Pragmatism... but the purism that is taught by the faithful is a disservice.
I think it was much easier to start learning computering in the 80's with things like 6502 than to jump in now where you are told you don't really care how something like the 6502 works.
posting on slashdot is a geek tradition.
holy shit I'm old. It's like I fscking walked the earth with dinosaurs (aka. System 390 programmers).
how beautifull would a car that looks good but keeps breaking down be ?
I understand the Jaquar is a bit more reliable these days. What a beautiful car.
It's important to be on speaking terms with yourself.
overratted.... yeah. right. suuuure it was.
Now, this, this is overrated (I'm gonna use the Your-A-Special-Poster bonus this time... get ready for some FreedomGiving on your ass!)
um, on second thought, anonymous! you'll never figure out who I am...
Oh wait, it's obvious who I am. You villian.
By the way, could we get a little island for the MSychophants and the JavaFaithful to inhabit... or a spaceship with two more to follow for the rest of us. Please? Please?
hey... did you just badmouth sed and awk!
Have respect for your elders youngin'
[thwak thwak] -- a caning
perl is on it's own.
From what I've seen, Java itself was a knock-off of VB. VB done "right" according to Sun thinking (supposedly, though I guess some not in the Java group don't think that the JVM, for example, really is developed the "Sun way").
For MS to take ideas from Java to the next level is really just reaquiring access to this virtualized machine world where you protect the programmer as if... as if... they were but a user! (little joke there, very little).
Although I'm no bigot... I say this all as someone that has grown tired and distrustful of Microsoft. Since I have ten years of Windows development experience, I think I gave them a shot... so I blame them not me for my distrust.
"feature pit of C++"
That's no pit. That's fauna and flora. As a multiparadigmed language, you are not expected to need or want every "feature".
But has the OOP purity of the 80's, in the spirit of which both these technologies are designed, really proven itself... ever?
personally, I believe in pragmatic OOP... i.e., the kind in C++.
"To many options are bad" == "please think for me, choice hurts my brain".
End of Reflexive C++-defense.
(where is the C++ Troll when you need her?)
Stupidity may be self-curing, unfortunately, it reproduces prior to the cure.
what was sophisticated about it?
... that one reason things like Passport have failed (so far) is because of the people running around saying the sky is falling?
People not trusting Passport and making a noise about it is probably one reason there were few takers outside Microsoft. Note: Microsoft is using it... and every Windows user will be using Passport at least to deal with MS.
Now as to why Bob failed, I'm not saying.
>Instead, it is usually to enforce valuable policies.
IMO, "usually" it's because of a power trip.
>In an industry that has been in the doldrums the last few years, Microsoft consistently has made dumptrucks full of money.
well, the people filling up those dumptrucks with their money are not doing so out of love.
If you don't see that Microsoft is trying to close the currently open x86 architecture so they can charge anyone that wants to make software for it... then you are not paying attention.
If someone comes up with a crazy conspiracy... ok, be doubtful. But if that crazy conspiracy would make someone a lot of money, check into it.
The want to Xbox the whole PC world. Frankly, I think it's more than they can do, but it is clearly where they want to go today.
right... I'd much rather you get hit by a LASER from space than have to deal with a misbehaving traffic light.
By the way, how can a chip in your car make the engine blow up? Is it like that virus that will format your hard drive and eat all the good leftovers in your fridge and unspay your dog?
but in spoken language these homonyms are distinguished by context, and that works as well with spelling errors related to them. It does not seem like a case where ambiguity is introduced.
IMO, they both can be proofreading errors.
I think it's largely a function of this being as informal as a watercooler conversation, or even less formal really. Also, good spelling is not really a magical universal IQ test. Poor spelling does not really tell someone about intelligence... or even literacy!
only in comparison to your expectations.
I look back fifteen or even ten years ago and I'm blown away that we have a ubiquitous global network that is a household word. It's stunning.
Btw, the huge majority of businesses, in general, fail within five years. With the internet bubble, they were just all synched to more or less the same five years.
AMD 1.2 GHz Duron processor
128 MB SDRAM
10 GB hard drive
You don't think this will run Win 98? Yes it will. In fact, it's a speed-demon compared to the machines DOS... I mean Win98 was designed to run on.
But I don't advise it for other reasons.
the fundamental philosophies of Linux are not compatible with today's end user.
:)
Except they are... the general philosophy really is... it's the philosophy of the end user that counts. As linux gets more end users... the statistical average of the "linux" philosophy will seem to shift, but in reality it hasn't, because the point is "use if for what you want, how you want, and change it as you see fit."
Which is really just a paraphrasing in my words of the rest of your post, I think.
... you saved me from having to reply.