Granted I can't be arsed to RTFA as all I ever use Gimp for is cropping photos. But if I read the summary right they have geneticaly altered the pig to look, sound, feel, and smell like a girlfriend but to not want to be taken to dinner before she puts out.
I somehow fail to see the downside.
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Try getting a book with penis in the title a prime spot in Borders. Yes it is sad that this is the case but you can't really blame them for simply playing the game.
Yeah. Almost everything has a lower time cost. This is why almost all analogies to RL are borken. Notice that I have not made any arguments about if this is a good or bad thing. I have merely pointed out that the orginal analogy left one with the impression that car registration info was "private" in some fashion. I was merely pointing out that it was not.
Yes getting public information on the Internet will be faster/cheaper than getting it in RL. This is true of *most* things. If you don't like that stay off the Net.
I really don't get it and have yet to see a good argument for what is suposedly so borken about paper docs.
Biometrics are good for a large number of things. But they are *not* good for IDs (passports, DLs, ICs those kind of things). This is because for them to be used that way they must be passed over a network. Once you start passing things over a network it becomes very possible to steal that persons biometrics and use them to be him/her.
Name something closed source that Don Knuth has written.
Also you do know that Unix started out basically as a "black op" at Bell Labs and has a very strong tradition of taking patches from all over and sharing source in a DFSG fashion up till the civil wars of the 80s and that after that it was OSS that arguably saved it from the aftermath of said wars, right?
The big one I rant about is that fact that they couldn't get a security clue if they bathed in security clue musk and ran naked through a field full of horny security clues with a $100 bill tapped to their backs at the height of security clue mating season.
Basically when you have some bright idea about a new "secure" way to do things that it would seem that nobody has thought of before you should stop, breathe and ask yourself "Am I smarter than Bruce Scheiner, Dennis Ritchie, Ken Thompson, and Theo da Raadt?" If the answer is a honest "No". And trust me it is. Then you are wrong.
And don't even get me started on the fact that they mix Experimental, Sid, and Testing.
You are right. Good salespeople are a joy and a wonder. A couple of years ago I had the pleasure of working with a network sales guy who was *great*. At least one of the tech staff was on *every* call he made. He double checked every fact he presented to a a customer and went to a lot of effort to grok what he was selling. Set realistic timeframes and made sandwiches for us engineers. (Damn good sandwiches BTW.) Now selling networks is not the core business of where I worked. He produced more money than many of the salesdroids selling core products.
But the vast majority are not like this or anything even close. So while yes they are needed for paychecks to appear they are dark evil twisted beings. Dark evil twisted beings that we have not yet figured out how to do without but dark evil twisted beings in any case.
And the fact that he was using fundamentally borken software and that his lusers, who are supposed to be edgy, fight the power, anarachist types were *still* coming from tracable IPs any better, just how?
You do of course understand that this is not Debian users or random people on the net voting. These are the DDs (Debian Developers). I hardly think they are "switching away" and in fact know for a fact that they are working very hard to improve the process.
We see "based on" distros because Debian is so great. Ubuntu is an example of some folks who want to do things that are IMO very very stupid. But they can use Debian as a base because of the way the branches are set up and because it is moduler.
Debian is far from stagnant. But it takes effort, reading, and more than average clue to run and run well. This is the way I and many others like it.
As I said in my first post I'm an elitest bastard and proud of it.
As a dedicated Debian partisian and elitist bastard I hate to say this but you are damn close to right.
A big part of the problem is that they guy that a *lot* of users and developers would like to see run didn't and a lot of the current leadership don't want to see him run or god forbid win.
Yeah. And if the CIA wants you you are either one of the very few people in the world who can defend yourself or they have already owned you. This is mostly cause like true paranoids and unlike the FBI they could give two shits about "rules".
To put the Barbie spin on it.
Defending yourself against a national security agency is HARD.
Onion routing is some very slick stuff. I think it still has some significant traffic anaylsis problems but there are possible ways to work around those that could be good enough depending on your enemy. Also if you are using SSH to a proxy you *must* be careful about traffic analysis.
Start thinking in terms of a combo of what Techincian said and the above and do some serious thought about traffic analysis and you will be well on your way to true paranoia.
Granted this analogy is *weak* and very very laboured. Having said that.
But if there were some method of paying for goods and services that had all the clear advantages of cash but that could not be stolen and you still had cash to be held up for then you would have been almost criminally stupid.
There should have never ever been any logs for him to turn over.
Fine then. They would be siezed and searched and nothing found. Granted since said servers are/.ed to hell and back and the moment I only have a bit of info but let's play thought experiment for a minute. And list the basic rookie mistakes this guy and his lusers made.
1. He kept logs. Nuff said.
2. Given as upset as he expects them to be we can only conclude that they were coming from tracable IPs. Good god welcome to fucking amatuer hour.
3. WTF was he doing keeping the servers *in* the US. As someone who grew up in the 70s and 80s and who really thinks that that American Revoultion was one of the best things to ever happen to mankind is sickens me to say this. But the US is rapidly descending into totalitarianism. If you think about it for about.3 seconds you come to the conclusion that you should seek hosting in another country, by prefrence one that has no extradition treaty.
4. The fucking idiot was *KEEPING LOGS*. There is no possible way to justify this.
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No thanks. I'll pick smart over happy any day.
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As bad as his is it likely is better than yours. I bet he can spell "You're" and use a shift key properly also. Thanks for making my point.
Ahhhhhhh.
Yeah, that would pretty much suck.
Now I see the downside.
Granted I can't be arsed to RTFA as all I ever use Gimp for is cropping photos. But if I read the summary right they have geneticaly altered the pig to look, sound, feel, and smell like a girlfriend but to not want to be taken to dinner before she puts out.
I somehow fail to see the downside.
Try getting a book with penis in the title a prime spot in Borders. Yes it is sad that this is the case but you can't really blame them for simply playing the game.
Welcome to the Internet.
Yeah. Almost everything has a lower time cost. This is why almost all analogies to RL are borken. Notice that I have not made any arguments about if this is a good or bad thing. I have merely pointed out that the orginal analogy left one with the impression that car registration info was "private" in some fashion. I was merely pointing out that it was not.
Yes getting public information on the Internet will be faster/cheaper than getting it in RL. This is true of *most* things. If you don't like that stay off the Net.
Why not?
I really don't get it and have yet to see a good argument for what is suposedly so borken about paper docs.
Biometrics are good for a large number of things. But they are *not* good for IDs (passports, DLs, ICs those kind of things). This is because for them to be used that way they must be passed over a network. Once you start passing things over a network it becomes very possible to steal that persons biometrics and use them to be him/her.
Name something closed source that Don Knuth has written.
Also you do know that Unix started out basically as a "black op" at Bell Labs and has a very strong tradition of taking patches from all over and sharing source in a DFSG fashion up till the civil wars of the 80s and that after that it was OSS that arguably saved it from the aftermath of said wars, right?
So your point was?
You do know that your car is registered, right?
And you do know that that is public information, right?
Your analogy is borken. I can get your license plate number and call the DMV and get your info. This is the same as running a whois and getting it.
Notice that I don't say if I think this is right or wrong this is simply the way things are.
The big one I rant about is that fact that they couldn't get a security clue if they bathed in security clue musk and ran naked through a field full of horny security clues with a $100 bill tapped to their backs at the height of security clue mating season.
Basically when you have some bright idea about a new "secure" way to do things that it would seem that nobody has thought of before you should stop, breathe and ask yourself "Am I smarter than Bruce Scheiner, Dennis Ritchie, Ken Thompson, and Theo da Raadt?" If the answer is a honest "No". And trust me it is. Then you are wrong.
And don't even get me started on the fact that they mix Experimental, Sid, and Testing.
You are right. Good salespeople are a joy and a wonder. A couple of years ago I had the pleasure of working with a network sales guy who was *great*. At least one of the tech staff was on *every* call he made. He double checked every fact he presented to a a customer and went to a lot of effort to grok what he was selling. Set realistic timeframes and made sandwiches for us engineers. (Damn good sandwiches BTW.) Now selling networks is not the core business of where I worked. He produced more money than many of the salesdroids selling core products.
But the vast majority are not like this or anything even close. So while yes they are needed for paychecks to appear they are dark evil twisted beings. Dark evil twisted beings that we have not yet figured out how to do without but dark evil twisted beings in any case.
And the admin to boot.
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That would kind of be my whole point.
Maybe somebody will defend the AC.
And the fact that he was using fundamentally borken software and that his lusers, who are supposed to be edgy, fight the power, anarachist types were *still* coming from tracable IPs any better, just how?
This just makes my point. Thanks.
You do of course understand that this is not Debian users or random people on the net voting. These are the DDs (Debian Developers). I hardly think they are "switching away" and in fact know for a fact that they are working very hard to improve the process.
We see "based on" distros because Debian is so great. Ubuntu is an example of some folks who want to do things that are IMO very very stupid. But they can use Debian as a base because of the way the branches are set up and because it is moduler.
Debian is far from stagnant. But it takes effort, reading, and more than average clue to run and run well. This is the way I and many others like it.
As I said in my first post I'm an elitest bastard and proud of it.
I stand corrected. Last I had read he wasn't. Sadly I'm not a DD.
Oh yeah. Very good book.
Yes. I have. I got RSI from *looking* at the damn thing. And my hands haven't hurt for years.
As a dedicated Debian partisian and elitist bastard I hate to say this but you are damn close to right.
A big part of the problem is that they guy that a *lot* of users and developers would like to see run didn't and a lot of the current leadership don't want to see him run or god forbid win.
Long live Overfiend.
Yeah, so.
1. You do have backups or you have no empathy from me.
2. If you are going to play in these waters, eplacing hardware is simply part of the cost of doing business.
Play hard or go home.
This fuck is nothing but a pouser.
Yeah. And if the CIA wants you you are either one of the very few people in the world who can defend yourself or they have already owned you. This is mostly cause like true paranoids and unlike the FBI they could give two shits about "rules".
To put the Barbie spin on it.
Defending yourself against a national security agency is HARD.
Very good points.
Also see
http://anon.inf.tu-dresden.de/index_en.html
http://www.onion-router.net/
Onion routing is some very slick stuff. I think it still has some significant traffic anaylsis problems but there are possible ways to work around those that could be good enough depending on your enemy. Also if you are using SSH to a proxy you *must* be careful about traffic analysis.
Start thinking in terms of a combo of what Techincian said and the above and do some serious thought about traffic analysis and you will be well on your way to true paranoia.
Granted this analogy is *weak* and very very laboured. Having said that.
But if there were some method of paying for goods and services that had all the clear advantages of cash but that could not be stolen and you still had cash to be held up for then you would have been almost criminally stupid.
There should have never ever been any logs for him to turn over.
The question that all the pros out here want a answer to.
Why for FFS did you keep logs in the first place?
And why for the love of all that is good and right were your users coming from traceable IPs?
Fine then. They would be siezed and searched and nothing found. Granted since said servers are /.ed to hell and back and the moment I only have a bit of info but let's play thought experiment for a minute. And list the basic rookie mistakes this guy and his lusers made.
.3 seconds you come to the conclusion that you should seek hosting in another country, by prefrence one that has no extradition treaty.
1. He kept logs. Nuff said.
2. Given as upset as he expects them to be we can only conclude that they were coming from tracable IPs. Good god welcome to fucking amatuer hour.
3. WTF was he doing keeping the servers *in* the US. As someone who grew up in the 70s and 80s and who really thinks that that American Revoultion was one of the best things to ever happen to mankind is sickens me to say this. But the US is rapidly descending into totalitarianism. If you think about it for about
4. The fucking idiot was *KEEPING LOGS*. There is no possible way to justify this.
He likely sits with his back to doors.
I mumble Cisco/Unix commands at it. Of course I also do this in my car, in the store, while playing Battlefront, and making dinner.
Did I mention that chicks dig network geeks?
I am SO normal.