but rather for things like OpenHardware. Where hardware is built like it always has been but we just get the specs so drivers etc. can be written and improved.
No if you would read my post you would see that I said you should NOT ever login as root locally either. You should always login as another user and then use su or sudo to become root. This is commonsense stuff comeon.
Have you everheard of "su" the simple fact is you should *never* login as root at all but at all time login as a user and su or sudo to do things that require root. Then if you look at your logs and see a login as root you know there and then that you have a issue. Also most of the Apache developers run *BSD so just grab the source and compile. You should almost always compile Apache from source in any case.
Yes you are right the chips are low power. Now lets think about it. I take say 16 Intel chips and put them in a server. Then I take say 100 Transmeta chips and put them in a server. Odds are the server running 100 Transmeta chips are going to use more power than the box with 16 Intel chips now as I remember while the Transmeta chips are lower power they are not enough that a given server running hunderds of them would use less power than a typical SMP server does now.:)
"Transmeta founder Dave Ditzel says we can expect servers with hundreds of Crusoe CPUs later this year."
These Transmeta servers are *not* going to be low power. They are talking about putting hundreds of chips in one box and basically setting it up as a cluster_in_a_box. They will use the same if not more power than the average normal server. But the plan is it will be faster then normal SMP due to throwing hundreds of chips at it and using them in parallel.
And of course then you can get this set of patches but that means you need this other set of patches and don't forget to apply these boot patches and these patches that fix those patches. And if that breaks anything well you should not have been patching your system in the first place.
If you have used or supported HP-UX you will understand the above and find it funny. To those of you who don't know HP-UX the above is *very* ontopic:)
Nuclear Risk. You needed a 10 sided die to roll chances on various things. Then (very simple here) we had rules about when you could build nukes, odds of them working, how much damage, all that good stuff. The rules we used is HS were very play balanced. I'll have to go home and see if I can find them.
This is why when I was in the Air Farce we had removable HDs. One for classified and one for unclassifed stuff. And of course all the various levels of secret. Where I had hands on with the system we had to take the network cable out but on that machine the network was not critical at that time. In any case my CO still got it wrong. This is a *very* bad idea in many ways.
Do you have a link to the notice? It can be hard to find stuff at Chaos Manor and it does not appear to be on the front page. I'm going to have to take the day off if this true.:( I do agree with you though on SF *not* being American, Verne and Wells both had it going on a very long time ago.
Odds are there is a dual license with that one and
this
one . I would think that that one is for PHBs who don't want open source and the good one is for the rest of us. This is fairly common and it would make sense that once they have written a license in house and had some of the big names in OSS bless it that they will stick with it.
"Don't get me wrong, no one is gonna mistake my cinematography in Revolution O.S. for a slick Hollywood film, but at least it doesn't have the amateur porno aesthetic of DV."
An amateur porno film with an OSS theme now that would have rocked.
No you are not following the logic at all. When someone finds a new hole in BIND it is all over the news (news sources for geeks anyway) and *everybody* knows about it. Same with sendmail. If Perl had root exploits it would get the same amount of attention. There should be links and stories all over the place about it. Now show me said proof and I'm willing to buy into it. About the only thing I can find on securiteam.org is something about Activestates Perl and a exploit having to do with Perl and IIS. Everything else looks minor and quickly patched or like using Perl to do exploits. Looks like there might be a couple of modules you would like to research also. Compare that to what a search on IIS reveals.:)
"Almost" I'm sure this was the plan from the very start. In fact I would not be surprised to learn that it was planned out with the people now writing about it. In this sense it was a good thing the lost the first trail and we now have a chance to just maybe take it all the way to the top. I agree with you this is a *very* good thing.
Maybe you should go and look at the Divx site and then you will understand why Rob did not say that he could not see it but rather that he could not read it. Everyone who has been there will understand that this has nothing to do with winders. I can not read this page on my NT, SGI, Sun, or Linux box.
I hope you are joking because if you are that was *very* well done. If not well I am in console mode quite often and do think that most servers should be headless. But I also like some sweet 3d lovin on my desktop. I'm laughing either way.
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Yes and of course we all know that demanding bug fixes and enhancements from Microsoft works really well. Just the other day I called them up and demaned USB support for NT 4. I expect to get the patches any day now. I'm in fact holding my breath waiting for it.:) And we all know that MS never ever breaks anything when you upgrade. The fact of the matter is while the hobbyists certainly have helped and continue to do so that *many* OSS developers are in fact paid to do so and are working on tools to help them do their real jobs. See this is the problem and the myth of support any company small enough that they really will provide the level of support people like you talk about are going to be dismissed and any company big enough that the PHBs will look at them are big enough they don't care anymore. The key is to find a small cluefull systems consultant who can and will work with you. And there are plenty of us out here. Also do not dismiss the fact that in many cases you are talking with and too craftsmen in this area. These are people who take pride in doing a job well. Ask them in a nice way, explain it to them, you might even offer to throw a few dollars their way and you will get a much better response then you ever will out of Microsoft. Come on grow up and be human. Get on the cluetrain.
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but rather for things like OpenHardware. Where hardware is built like it always has been but we just get the specs so drivers etc. can be written and improved.
No if you would read my post you would see that I said you should NOT ever login as root locally either. You should always login as another user and then use su or sudo to become root. This is commonsense stuff comeon.
Thanks for the address. I was not aware it was being developed.
Have you everheard of "su" the simple fact is you should *never* login as root at all but at all time login as a user and su or sudo to do things that require root. Then if you look at your logs and see a login as root you know there and then that you have a issue. Also most of the Apache developers run *BSD so just grab the source and compile. You should almost always compile Apache from source in any case.
I personally think that the good folks at Debian should dump the Hurd and work on Debian with a BSD Kernel (GNU/BSD?).
Now if we could just one who had the voice I would vote for them! :)
I really wish I had mod points because I'm afraid very few will get the joke and understand that it is both ontopic and *very* funny. LOL
Yes you are right the chips are low power. Now lets think about it. I take say 16 Intel chips and put them in a server. Then I take say 100 Transmeta chips and put them in a server. Odds are the server running 100 Transmeta chips are going to use more power than the box with 16 Intel chips now as I remember while the Transmeta chips are lower power they are not enough that a given server running hunderds of them would use less power than a typical SMP server does now. :)
"Transmeta founder Dave Ditzel says we can expect servers with hundreds of Crusoe CPUs later this year."
These Transmeta servers are *not* going to be low power. They are talking about putting hundreds of chips in one box and basically setting it up as a cluster_in_a_box. They will use the same if not more power than the average normal server. But the plan is it will be faster then normal SMP due to throwing hundreds of chips at it and using them in parallel.
Nuclear multi-planet risk. You have just given me a great idea. I'm glad it's Friday.
Sleep!?! I don't need no stinkin sleep.
USAF and I typed it just the way I meant to. :)
And of course then you can get this set of patches but that means you need this other set of patches and don't forget to apply these boot patches and these patches that fix those patches. And if that breaks anything well you should not have been patching your system in the first place. :)
If you have used or supported HP-UX you will understand the above and find it funny. To those of you who don't know HP-UX the above is *very* ontopic
Nuclear Risk. You needed a 10 sided die to roll chances on various things. Then (very simple here) we had rules about when you could build nukes, odds of them working, how much damage, all that good stuff. The rules we used is HS were very play balanced. I'll have to go home and see if I can find them.
This is why when I was in the Air Farce we had removable HDs. One for classified and one for unclassifed stuff. And of course all the various levels of secret. Where I had hands on with the system we had to take the network cable out but on that machine the network was not critical at that time. In any case my CO still got it wrong. This is a *very* bad idea in many ways.
That is *really* sad. The Dorsai books changed my life.
Do you have a link to the notice? It can be hard to find stuff at Chaos Manor and it does not appear to be on the front page. I'm going to have to take the day off if this true. :( I do agree with you though on SF *not* being American, Verne and Wells both had it going on a very long time ago.
Odds are there is a dual license with that one and this one . I would think that that one is for PHBs who don't want open source and the good one is for the rest of us. This is fairly common and it would make sense that once they have written a license in house and had some of the big names in OSS bless it that they will stick with it.
"Don't get me wrong, no one is gonna mistake my cinematography in Revolution O.S. for a slick Hollywood film, but at least it doesn't have the amateur porno aesthetic of DV."
An amateur porno film with an OSS theme now that would have rocked.
No you are not following the logic at all. When someone finds a new hole in BIND it is all over the news (news sources for geeks anyway) and *everybody* knows about it. Same with sendmail. If Perl had root exploits it would get the same amount of attention. There should be links and stories all over the place about it. Now show me said proof and I'm willing to buy into it. About the only thing I can find on securiteam.org is something about Activestates Perl and a exploit having to do with Perl and IIS. Everything else looks minor and quickly patched or like using Perl to do exploits. Looks like there might be a couple of modules you would like to research also. Compare that to what a search on IIS reveals. :)
Yes it would.
"Almost" I'm sure this was the plan from the very start. In fact I would not be surprised to learn that it was planned out with the people now writing about it. In this sense it was a good thing the lost the first trail and we now have a chance to just maybe take it all the way to the top. I agree with you this is a *very* good thing.
Maybe you should go and look at the Divx site and then you will understand why Rob did not say that he could not see it but rather that he could not read it. Everyone who has been there will understand that this has nothing to do with winders. I can not read this page on my NT, SGI, Sun, or Linux box.
Xbill my friend you left off Xbill. But you are right NetHack is the alpha and omega of gaming. :)
I hope you are joking because if you are that was *very* well done. If not well I am in console mode quite often and do think that most servers should be headless. But I also like some sweet 3d lovin on my desktop. I'm laughing either way.
Yes and of course we all know that demanding bug fixes and enhancements from Microsoft works really well. Just the other day I called them up and demaned USB support for NT 4. I expect to get the patches any day now. I'm in fact holding my breath waiting for it. :) And we all know that MS never ever breaks anything when you upgrade. The fact of the matter is while the hobbyists certainly have helped and continue to do so that *many* OSS developers are in fact paid to do so and are working on tools to help them do their real jobs. See this is the problem and the myth of support any company small enough that they really will provide the level of support people like you talk about are going to be dismissed and any company big enough that the PHBs will look at them are big enough they don't care anymore. The key is to find a small cluefull systems consultant who can and will work with you. And there are plenty of us out here. Also do not dismiss the fact that in many cases you are talking with and too craftsmen in this area. These are people who take pride in doing a job well. Ask them in a nice way, explain it to them, you might even offer to throw a few dollars their way and you will get a much better response then you ever will out of Microsoft. Come on grow up and be human. Get on the cluetrain.