Well sure! The major difference from US courts being, in Mexico a massive international corporation* apparently gets the same treatment as your average dirt farmer.
* assuming said corporation isn't owned by Carlos Slim, or a front for one of the cartels... something tells me that would make a difference.
Following you around with a camera does prove something. If surveillance cameras don't bother you as much as this guy does, that's proof that you're a hypocrit. You don't want to be a hypocrit do you? No? Then you better start hating surveillance cameras and complaining loudly about them.
I hate ubiquitous surveillance as-much-if-not-more than the next guy
Too busy formulating your angry response to read what I actually wrote?
The US. Does not give a shit about anything outside the US.
If we (and by we, I of course mean "our government") didn't give a shit about anything outside our own borders, we wouldn't spend 23 times as much blood and treasure as the next nation showing off how big our (militaristic) dick is.
Seriously, man, I hate ubiquitous surveillance as-much-if-not-more than the next guy - following me around doesn't prove anything, except that you're an asshole with entirely too much free time.
Don't put all your eggs in one basket, that's the best plan.
But there again, budget comes into play. Can be pretty costly to maintain a backup data center in another state though. Infrastructure, hardware, good data lines connecting the two, etc.
Then you'll get what you (are willing to) pay for.
If you have a need for high speed, low latency, and there is enough demand, you bet your socks you will build and sell space in a datacenter in a city like New York.
I don't think OP was saying that you shouldn't have datacenters in NYC, persay, but rather that you'd be better off spending most of your "disaster-proofing" budget on off-site disaster recovery equipment/services.
That's not a hard problem to solve. You just fire up the generator and burn the fuel. When you're using the generator, you disconnect from the grid so you're not paying for commercial power.
Or, presuming you live somewhere this is allowed, fire the genny up and let it feed into the grid, thereby offsetting the cost of the liquid fuel (at least a bit).
"why post a comment when you can't even be bothered to read the summary?"
Those are Motorola's demands. The parent was asking what are Apple's demands, which is clear if you read the GP.
Yea, no, it's not. In fact, had you bothered to read the rest of the conversation between myself and GP, it would be glaringly obvious that GP was indeed referring to Motorola.
Apple is also demanding license fees for patents it claims Android is infringing. Those fees are not mentioned in the article, yet alone the summary.
Which is why it's ridiculous to assume that GP was talking about Apple's demands, since no such demands were ever mentioned.
To answer the question,
That was never asked.
Apple thinks $30 per unit is reasonable to cover some questionable, non-essential, utility patents.
So... Apple thinks it's fair, reasonable, and non-discriminatory to charge others $30 per unit for "infringing" on one of their patents, then turns around and offers $1 per unit for the devices they admittedly infringed on Motorola's patent with?
That's not fair, reasonable, or non-discriminatory, by any stretch of the imagination.
Why post a snarky answer to a question when you can't even bother to understand the question?
Funny, I was thinking of asking you the very same question...
An understanding of somewhat basic chemistry makes this a "duh" moment. Lithium + water = everyone's favorite science class demonstration.
Third, maybe even fourth favorite;
1) making hydrogen with soapy water (and subsequently starting a flash fire!)
2) non-dairy, powdered creamer cannons (more fire!)
3/4) toss up between lithium + water and potassium + water; of course, both lose out to "pound of potassium tossed into a hotel swimming pool..."
If you can't already tell, my freshman science teacher was awesome.
If you are driving your car during a flash flood you are none too bright. Lots of ways to die in a conventional car that way.
I'm going to assume that where you live, flash flooding is rather uncommon.
One cannot predict when or where a flash flood will occur - hence the 'flash' in the name. So, to say that people who drive "during a flash flood" are "none to bright" only serves to prove your ignorance on the topic.
Were we discussing regular, predictable flooding, I would wholeheartedly agree.
They are devices that have used the patented technology, thus it's only fair Apple should pay for all the devices. And as for the %, it's not that much even on a $500 phone when you consider the obscene margins they are sold at.
I agree - it's not like Moto is trying to cripple Apple's business or anything, they just want to be paid what they're owed.
Apple "offering" $1 for future devices (not included the millions of infringing devices Apple already profited from) comes off as childish and pedantic as possible, especially considering their handling of the recent UK court decision.
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Well sure! The major difference from US courts being, in Mexico a massive international corporation* apparently gets the same treatment as your average dirt farmer.
* assuming said corporation isn't owned by Carlos Slim, or a front for one of the cartels... something tells me that would make a difference.
Petulant
That's the one! Thanks!
You took the "Ha Ha!" right out of my mouth.
Following you around with a camera does prove something. If surveillance cameras don't bother you as much as this guy does, that's proof that you're a hypocrit. You don't want to be a hypocrit do you? No? Then you better start hating surveillance cameras and complaining loudly about them.
I hate ubiquitous surveillance as-much-if-not-more than the next guy
Too busy formulating your angry response to read what I actually wrote?
I've had good luck with Do Not Track Plus for Chrome.
MONEYYYY
'Merica - FUCK YEA!
FTFY.
The US. Does not give a shit about anything outside the US.
If we (and by we, I of course mean "our government") didn't give a shit about anything outside our own borders, we wouldn't spend 23 times as much blood and treasure as the next nation showing off how big our (militaristic) dick is.
Need I go on?
Probably don't need to, but I've gotten a kick out of what you wrote so far (especially the one about France; silly, silly French people)...
Carry on!
Then the pussy shouldn't be doing it at all.
It is a great forum for diplomacy.
Not to mention, if we bailed on the UN, how would we control who gets recognized as having a right to exist?
That's right, I went there.
Suck it, Bibi.
Apparently to shit-talk the US for no particular reason?
Oh, c'mon now, you and I both know that there's plenty of legitimate reasons to shit-talk the US.
Our nation has earned its global reputation; don't be a whiny bitch, own that shit.
Why isn't he following politicians and LEO's?
Seriously, man, I hate ubiquitous surveillance as-much-if-not-more than the next guy - following me around doesn't prove anything, except that you're an asshole with entirely too much free time.
Not sure if you know what that word means.
Hmm, apparently I did not!
There's a similar word to pedantic that I probably meant to use, but it eludes me at the moment.
So flash flooding occurs on top of hills or like all flooding in low lying areas?
Because if the latter is the case, do not drive in bad weather in low lying areas.
You've... never been to Texas, have you?
Don't put all your eggs in one basket, that's the best plan.
But there again, budget comes into play. Can be pretty costly to maintain a backup data center in another state though. Infrastructure, hardware, good data lines connecting the two, etc.
Then you'll get what you (are willing to) pay for.
If you have a need for high speed, low latency, and there is enough demand, you bet your socks you will build and sell space in a datacenter in a city like New York.
I don't think OP was saying that you shouldn't have datacenters in NYC, persay, but rather that you'd be better off spending most of your "disaster-proofing" budget on off-site disaster recovery equipment/services.
Don't put all your eggs in one basket, and such.
That's not a hard problem to solve. You just fire up the generator and burn the fuel. When you're using the generator, you disconnect from the grid so you're not paying for commercial power.
Or, presuming you live somewhere this is allowed, fire the genny up and let it feed into the grid, thereby offsetting the cost of the liquid fuel (at least a bit).
"why post a comment when you can't even be bothered to read the summary?" Those are Motorola's demands. The parent was asking what are Apple's demands, which is clear if you read the GP.
Yea, no, it's not. In fact, had you bothered to read the rest of the conversation between myself and GP, it would be glaringly obvious that GP was indeed referring to Motorola.
Apple is also demanding license fees for patents it claims Android is infringing. Those fees are not mentioned in the article, yet alone the summary.
Which is why it's ridiculous to assume that GP was talking about Apple's demands, since no such demands were ever mentioned.
To answer the question,
That was never asked.
Apple thinks $30 per unit is reasonable to cover some questionable, non-essential, utility patents.
So... Apple thinks it's fair, reasonable, and non-discriminatory to charge others $30 per unit for "infringing" on one of their patents, then turns around and offers $1 per unit for the devices they admittedly infringed on Motorola's patent with?
That's not fair, reasonable, or non-discriminatory, by any stretch of the imagination.
Why post a snarky answer to a question when you can't even bother to understand the question?
Funny, I was thinking of asking you the very same question...
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An understanding of somewhat basic chemistry makes this a "duh" moment. Lithium + water = everyone's favorite science class demonstration.
Third, maybe even fourth favorite;
1) making hydrogen with soapy water (and subsequently starting a flash fire!)
2) non-dairy, powdered creamer cannons (more fire!)
3/4) toss up between lithium + water and potassium + water; of course, both lose out to "pound of potassium tossed into a hotel swimming pool..."
If you can't already tell, my freshman science teacher was awesome.
Seriously, I want to keep SOME faith in Slashdot.
Then you shouldn't be posting political bullshit as AC.
Posts like yours are part of the fucking problem.
If you are driving your car during a flash flood you are none too bright. Lots of ways to die in a conventional car that way.
I'm going to assume that where you live, flash flooding is rather uncommon.
One cannot predict when or where a flash flood will occur - hence the 'flash' in the name. So, to say that people who drive "during a flash flood" are "none to bright" only serves to prove your ignorance on the topic.
Were we discussing regular, predictable flooding, I would wholeheartedly agree.
To the casual reader, your last sentence cut the estimate of your apparent IQ in half.
One could say the same about your only sentence.
That's hardly unreasonable.
They are devices that have used the patented technology, thus it's only fair Apple should pay for all the devices. And as for the %, it's not that much even on a $500 phone when you consider the obscene margins they are sold at.
I agree - it's not like Moto is trying to cripple Apple's business or anything, they just want to be paid what they're owed.
Apple "offering" $1 for future devices (not included the millions of infringing devices Apple already profited from) comes off as childish and pedantic as possible, especially considering their handling of the recent UK court decision.
Let's get to the point where no one can make a phone anymore. That seems to be the only way we'll see the patent system get reformed.
Kinda hafta agree on that; scorching the earth is, sometimes, the only way to completely remove a vermin infestation.