Malware volume is directly proportional to a systems market share; grow big enough to be noticed by the criminals, and they'll start focusing on breaking your stuff.
That old chestnut is overcooked by this time. If a computer is vulnerable, they will build malware for it.
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Disagree - If I created a new OS that had no security whatsoever, but nobody actually used it, it's not likely anyone would waste time writing malware for it (save a handful of script kiddies that can't help but piss in other people's Post Toasty-Os), because the market share (or user base or whatever term you want to use) is non-existent.
An analogy - if you want to steal money, you break into a bank, not an abandoned building; if you want to cause some damage without anyone who matters giving a shit, then you can break into the abandoned building.
(I assume city folk who refused to pay for trash service)
You assume wrong, "country bumpkin", since "trash service" is something usually only businesses have to pay for in a city.
As a non-commercial resident of a medium size urban setting in which trash pickup service most definitely does have to be paid for on a per-residence basis, I posit that reality disagrees. They even charge us a (rather hefty, IMO) fee to use the already-funded-by-taxes landfill... bastards.
That, or what you and I refer to as "trash service" are two completely different things, although it's more likely you're operating under the quite incorrect assumption that every region on the planet functions exactly the same as where you live.
There was an article on slashdot about that thing recently. It seems that from a technical perspective, it was subpar, lacking RAM on the phone. From a business/cultural perspective, it also sucked. It was overpriced and required a data tethering plan from your cell provider. Doomed to fail.
As I said, those examples are signs of a bad implementation, not a bad idea.
If not for all those things you mentioned (only 1 crappy phone was compatible, typical telco price-gouging mechanisms), I'd likely be using one to type this very post. Personally, I thought it was a neat idea and is probably a precursor to the future of computing, where the actual computational device fits in your pocket and interacts remotely with the various peripherals you use day by day.
Malware volume is directly proportional to a systems market share; grow big enough to be noticed by the criminals, and they'll start focusing on breaking your stuff.
The facts don't support your theory. When iOS was the market leader, and Android the minority, it was still Android which was getting virtually all the malware.
We're talking about computers, not phones. Don't move goalposts, that's just childish.
There's one minor issue I see with your (repetitively posted) dystopian future view: it assumes that society will continue in its current form indefinitely. It will not.
Just pop it into charging dock and it gives you browser and email on big screen(s) and rdp client to access applications on server for those things your phone isn't powerful enough itself.
The dock could even have external GPU for extra power.
Motorola tried this. It was slow, ugly, useless and slow. It was just discontinued by Google (who own's Moto's Mobile biz now).
Redundancy aside - So, it's not that it's a bad idea, but that Motorola did a piss poor job of implementing it?
I assume you didn't buy one?!:) Or didn't even know about it?!
I knew about it, and had they made a version that fits my model of phone (and doesn't cost almost as much as a damn laptop), I'd have bought one in a heartbeat.
No part of mainframes has *anything* to do with desktops. It does not correlate in any fashion.
Desktops will always be in use in some fashion - miniaturizing technology only goes so far - so it's not a question of expense alone but also thermals and physical space. Since people tend to have to work on hardware you can't have it all be the size of a mobile SOC to do so or it becomes prohibitive. That's not just a "workstation" situation, but an "All PC's" situation.
Right; some tasks are better done with a full keyboard and a screen bigger than the palm of your hand.
Even if it's solely in a "docking station"* type capacity, desktop workstations will be around for as long as computers are.
* Speculative Future Vision (patent pending) engaged: Come home from work, the computer in your pocket communicates wirelessly with the display/peripherals in the room you're currently occupying, and activates them accordingly. Kind of like Synergy, but with a full suite of features and, of course, fine location awareness.
The same one that suffers from lots of malware.
People who care about creating their own programs: 0.01%. (and that's being generous.)
People who care about not getting malware: 99.99%.
Malware volume is directly proportional to a systems market share; grow big enough to be noticed by the criminals, and they'll start focusing on breaking your stuff.
Needless to say, that particular group stopped dumping.
...on your street.
Maybe; an equally valid hypothesis would be that they were so scared shitless by some random person returning a ton or two of their own garbage to their doorstep that they cleaned up their act and started going to the landfill like everyone else.
As with how many licks it takes to get to the center of a Tootsie-Roll Pop, the world may never know.
Owner might not care but the contractors / subs will. I don't believe there is an electrician out there who will leave copper wire laying around a jobsite, at least not on purpose. Every carpenter has a woodburning stove in his workshop... So its gotta be a homeowner doing all his own work, and probably a pretty stupid one at that.
If I were to wager a guess, I'd go with "slumlord"
A sign or two saying something like "PRIVATE PROPERTY NO DUMPING" might help, if you don't already have a sign like that which is being ignored.
This is Slashdot... logic of the "common sense" variety is forbidden on these threads!
Depending on the local laws and legal precedent, that may not be very logical or an example of common sense; for example, in certain particularly stupid areas of America, putting up a "No Trespassing" sign actually increases the property owner's liability, as they are acknowledging that people may trespass on their property and thus, take responsibility for said trespasser's safety (and yes, I am aware how boundlessly stupid that is).
Here's an article that does a much better job explaining the legal implications of posted "No Trespassing" signs than I ever could.
Even if it is a dirt road, it's not your property and if you don't have permission to be leaving shit all over the place then you don't do it. Where do you live that you can just legally drive around and say "this looks good, I don't see any signs" and dump shit to rust and rot and look terrible? Am I the only person that is appalled by that?
Nope; I grew up on such a dirt road, and cheap-ass idiots dumping shit because they don't want to pay $10 at the landfill were always the bane of my existence.
Related anecdote: For about 8 months when I was a kid, my dad and I used to see the same damn people dumping bags of trash on our road every week (I assume city folk who refused to pay for trash service). One time, after they drove off, father proceeded to open one of the trash bags and rifle through it (eww, I know) until he found - drum roll please - a piece of mail with the name and address intact. Several mornings later, the people who dumped the trash awakened to find every last fucking piece of it we had collected over the months spread across their own front lawn. Needless to say, that particular group stopped dumping.
A platform with lots of viruses. How quaint. Android truly is the Windows PC of mobile phones.
Well, if by that you mean that Android has a vast majority of the market share (>80%), and thus is a much, much bigger target, then yes.
Remember those "PC vs Mac" commercials from way back when, where the "Mac" guy kept droning on and on about not having viruses? Whatever happened to those? Oh, that's right, OSX finally reached a point where it had a less-than-insignificant market share, so it became worthwhile to write malware for the platform.
The answer is a single walled garden.
If the question is, "What's a really good way to keep funneling your customer's money into your own coffers after they've already purchased your stuff," then yea. Otherwise, I'll have to disagree.
It was necessary to remove "legacy ports" for USB to function?
No, it was necessary to remove legacy ports to push peripheral manufacturers to make their devices that used USB.
OK, I see where you're coming from - not a physical necessity so much as a psychological one.
Or, you know, a way to force your customers to buy all new peripherals so they can use the new iShiny you just sold them... hmm, where did this sudden sense of deja vu come from?
the G3 iMac
Ugh; I freakin' hated those things. The iMac was my introduction to Apple computers (I don't count the Apple II, that bad boy is in a class all it's own), and it was a very, very bad experience.
Might explain why I'm still not a fan of their product offerings...
[citation needed]
"The iMac was the first computer to exclusively offer USB ports as standard,[2] including the connector for its new keyboard and mouse,[3] thus abandoning previous Macintosh peripheral connections, such as the ADB, SCSI and GeoPort serial ports."
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/IMac_G3
"First to exclusively offer" != first to offer.
Here's a fairly good possible explanation of why USB took off after the iMac G3's introduction I found on stackexchange:
...the iMac may have helped, not so much by including USB ports, but by not including any legacy ports. That means that you now had to buy new USB peripherals instead of [using] your old [non-USB] ones. But since PC providers also started including USB it meant that the manufacturers of peripherals now could make one peripheral that would work on both platforms, and that, in my opinion, is the real reason USB took off, as hardware manufacturers had a good reason to switch to USB.
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As with how many licks it takes to get to the center of a Tootsie-Roll Pop, the world may never know.
Three!
You only think that because owls can't count to four.
How did this get modded as "Informative"?
Because double-pounding YourMom is an enlightening experience.
Thank you, thank you, I'll be here all week!
Malware volume is directly proportional to a systems market share; grow big enough to be noticed by the criminals, and they'll start focusing on breaking your stuff.
That old chestnut is overcooked by this time. If a computer is vulnerable, they will build malware for it.
/quote> Disagree - If I created a new OS that had no security whatsoever, but nobody actually used it, it's not likely anyone would waste time writing malware for it (save a handful of script kiddies that can't help but piss in other people's Post Toasty-Os), because the market share (or user base or whatever term you want to use) is non-existent.
An analogy - if you want to steal money, you break into a bank, not an abandoned building; if you want to cause some damage without anyone who matters giving a shit, then you can break into the abandoned building.
(I assume city folk who refused to pay for trash service)
You assume wrong, "country bumpkin", since "trash service" is something usually only businesses have to pay for in a city.
As a non-commercial resident of a medium size urban setting in which trash pickup service most definitely does have to be paid for on a per-residence basis, I posit that reality disagrees. They even charge us a (rather hefty, IMO) fee to use the already-funded-by-taxes landfill... bastards.
That, or what you and I refer to as "trash service" are two completely different things, although it's more likely you're operating under the quite incorrect assumption that every region on the planet functions exactly the same as where you live.
Now, why again would you want to have your home appliances useless when your mobile is not on reach?
No one ever said they would be; use a little imagination, man.
There was an article on slashdot about that thing recently. It seems that from a technical perspective, it was subpar, lacking RAM on the phone. From a business/cultural perspective, it also sucked. It was overpriced and required a data tethering plan from your cell provider. Doomed to fail.
As I said, those examples are signs of a bad implementation, not a bad idea.
If not for all those things you mentioned (only 1 crappy phone was compatible, typical telco price-gouging mechanisms), I'd likely be using one to type this very post. Personally, I thought it was a neat idea and is probably a precursor to the future of computing, where the actual computational device fits in your pocket and interacts remotely with the various peripherals you use day by day.
Prestige and money are far bigger drivers.
Right - and what prestige or money is there to be gained by infecting a system that nobody uses?
Nothing you've said here is antithetical to my statement, but rather supports it.
Malware volume is directly proportional to a systems market share; grow big enough to be noticed by the criminals, and they'll start focusing on breaking your stuff.
The facts don't support your theory. When iOS was the market leader, and Android the minority, it was still Android which was getting virtually all the malware.
We're talking about computers, not phones. Don't move goalposts, that's just childish.
Wow. Just... just wow.
Every time I think I just read the dumbest fucking thing ever posted to the internet, another douchbag troll comes along and one-up's the last guy.
I would say congratulations are in order, but I would really prefer to not encourage the behavior.
There's one minor issue I see with your (repetitively posted) dystopian future view: it assumes that society will continue in its current form indefinitely. It will not.
Also, entropy
I'd like my cell phone to act like a thin client.
Just pop it into charging dock and it gives you browser and email on big screen(s) and rdp client to access applications on server for those things your phone isn't powerful enough itself.
The dock could even have external GPU for extra power.
Motorola tried this. It was slow, ugly, useless and slow. It was just discontinued by Google (who own's Moto's Mobile biz now).
Redundancy aside - So, it's not that it's a bad idea, but that Motorola did a piss poor job of implementing it?
http://www.techweekeurope.co.uk/news/motorola-webtop-lapdock-google-smartphones-95491
I assume you didn't buy one?! :) Or didn't even know about it?!
I knew about it, and had they made a version that fits my model of phone (and doesn't cost almost as much as a damn laptop), I'd have bought one in a heartbeat.
No part of mainframes has *anything* to do with desktops. It does not correlate in any fashion.
Desktops will always be in use in some fashion - miniaturizing technology only goes so far - so it's not a question of expense alone but also thermals and physical space. Since people tend to have to work on hardware you can't have it all be the size of a mobile SOC to do so or it becomes prohibitive. That's not just a "workstation" situation, but an "All PC's" situation.
Right; some tasks are better done with a full keyboard and a screen bigger than the palm of your hand.
Even if it's solely in a "docking station"* type capacity, desktop workstations will be around for as long as computers are.
* Speculative Future Vision (patent pending) engaged: Come home from work, the computer in your pocket communicates wirelessly with the display/peripherals in the room you're currently occupying, and activates them accordingly. Kind of like Synergy, but with a full suite of features and, of course, fine location awareness.
The same one that suffers from lots of malware. People who care about creating their own programs: 0.01%. (and that's being generous.) People who care about not getting malware: 99.99%.
Malware volume is directly proportional to a systems market share; grow big enough to be noticed by the criminals, and they'll start focusing on breaking your stuff.
Naivete is cute.
Needless to say, that particular group stopped dumping.
...on your street.
Maybe; an equally valid hypothesis would be that they were so scared shitless by some random person returning a ton or two of their own garbage to their doorstep that they cleaned up their act and started going to the landfill like everyone else.
As with how many licks it takes to get to the center of a Tootsie-Roll Pop, the world may never know.
Owner might not care but the contractors / subs will. I don't believe there is an electrician out there who will leave copper wire laying around a jobsite, at least not on purpose. Every carpenter has a woodburning stove in his workshop... So its gotta be a homeowner doing all his own work, and probably a pretty stupid one at that.
If I were to wager a guess, I'd go with "slumlord"
A sign or two saying something like "PRIVATE PROPERTY NO DUMPING" might help, if you don't already have a sign like that which is being ignored.
This is Slashdot... logic of the "common sense" variety is forbidden on these threads!
Depending on the local laws and legal precedent, that may not be very logical or an example of common sense; for example, in certain particularly stupid areas of America, putting up a "No Trespassing" sign actually increases the property owner's liability, as they are acknowledging that people may trespass on their property and thus, take responsibility for said trespasser's safety (and yes, I am aware how boundlessly stupid that is).
Here's an article that does a much better job explaining the legal implications of posted "No Trespassing" signs than I ever could.
Even if it is a dirt road, it's not your property and if you don't have permission to be leaving shit all over the place then you don't do it. Where do you live that you can just legally drive around and say "this looks good, I don't see any signs" and dump shit to rust and rot and look terrible? Am I the only person that is appalled by that?
Nope; I grew up on such a dirt road, and cheap-ass idiots dumping shit because they don't want to pay $10 at the landfill were always the bane of my existence.
Related anecdote: For about 8 months when I was a kid, my dad and I used to see the same damn people dumping bags of trash on our road every week (I assume city folk who refused to pay for trash service). One time, after they drove off, father proceeded to open one of the trash bags and rifle through it (eww, I know) until he found - drum roll please - a piece of mail with the name and address intact. Several mornings later, the people who dumped the trash awakened to find every last fucking piece of it we had collected over the months spread across their own front lawn. Needless to say, that particular group stopped dumping.
I think Sprint missed a real opportunity using "star" instead of "pound".
##YourMom
FTFY
If I were a gambling man, my bet would be on the other way around.
You were spending more than $300/mo on gasoline for your Avalanche?
If he leased the Avalanche as well, then he was paying the lease on that also, and you have to count that.
If he didn't lease it but owned it, then he sold it for some cash, and you have to count that against the lease.
From OP:
I kept it because I need a truck
RTFP, man, RTFP.
So, in other words, we give the content cartels just enough rope, and they'll hang themselves for us? Cool.
Full Circle. We'll get there.
Android does not have >80% market share. It's something just over 50%.
Whoop, you're (kinda) right, shoulda RTFA'd my own link:
— Android (Google Inc.) — 104.8 million units, 68.1 percent share (46.9 percent a year earlier)
— iOS (Apple Inc.'s iPhone) — 26.0 million units, 16.9 percent share (18.8 percent a year earlier)
— BlackBerry (Research in Motion Ltd.) — 7.4 million units, 4.8 percent share (11.5 percent a year earlier)
— Symbian (mostly used by Nokia Corp.) — 6.8 million units, 4.4 percent share (16.9 percent a year earlier)
— Windows (Microsoft Corp.) — 5.4 million units, 3.5 percent share (2.3 percent a year earlier)
— Linux — 3.5 million units, 2.3 percent share (3.0 percent a year earlier)
— Others — 0.1 million units, 0.1 percent share (0.5 percent a year earlier)
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/09/18/android-market-share-q3-2012_n_1893292.html
A platform with lots of viruses. How quaint. Android truly is the Windows PC of mobile phones.
Well, if by that you mean that Android has a vast majority of the market share (>80%), and thus is a much, much bigger target, then yes.
Remember those "PC vs Mac" commercials from way back when, where the "Mac" guy kept droning on and on about not having viruses? Whatever happened to those? Oh, that's right, OSX finally reached a point where it had a less-than-insignificant market share, so it became worthwhile to write malware for the platform.
The answer is a single walled garden.
If the question is, "What's a really good way to keep funneling your customer's money into your own coffers after they've already purchased your stuff," then yea. Otherwise, I'll have to disagree.
It was necessary to remove "legacy ports" for USB to function?
No, it was necessary to remove legacy ports to push peripheral manufacturers to make their devices that used USB.
OK, I see where you're coming from - not a physical necessity so much as a psychological one.
Or, you know, a way to force your customers to buy all new peripherals so they can use the new iShiny you just sold them... hmm, where did this sudden sense of deja vu come from?
the G3 iMac
Ugh; I freakin' hated those things. The iMac was my introduction to Apple computers (I don't count the Apple II, that bad boy is in a class all it's own), and it was a very, very bad experience.
Might explain why I'm still not a fan of their product offerings...
[citation needed]
"The iMac was the first computer to exclusively offer USB ports as standard,[2] including the connector for its new keyboard and mouse,[3] thus abandoning previous Macintosh peripheral connections, such as the ADB, SCSI and GeoPort serial ports." http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/IMac_G3
"First to exclusively offer" != first to offer.
Here's a fairly good possible explanation of why USB took off after the iMac G3's introduction I found on stackexchange:
Origin of the walled garden?
I tried the 'Management' thing last year, but that was a failure as I'm just not a people person
...
Have you ever met a manager who is a 'people person?'
Assuming an affirmative - are they hiring?