Yep that has about 4 good ones. But that doesn't prove frequent, more or less all the time, which was the way back claim. Rather that list proves infrequent.
Depends on what metric we're using to measure frequency. Also, that is by no means a comprehensive list of all collegiate sports-related violence in this country.
The Koran is the less important part of Islamic dogma (just like the Bible is for Catholicism and the Torah is for Judaism). It's all about the Hadith (and the Magisterium for Catholicism and Talmud for Judaism).
As for what the Hadith stand for... well it ain't pretty.
16 years as a Catholic, even went to Catholic school for a little while, and I never heard the term "Magisterium" before today (had to Wiki it just to be sure you weren't making shit up). Contrarily, we read from the Bible pretty much daily. One would think, if "Magisterium" were such a crucial part of Catholic life, I'd have heard it as some point prior to today.
the underlying theme in koran writings IS that the dhimmis (ie, all of us non-moslems) are to be conquered or killed. eventually. until then, they are allowed to lie to us and do whatever it takes in order to secure their future.
LOOK IT UP.
I wish I was kidding. this is nasty, ugly shit, but its the basic overall guiding concept. it really is;(
no peace can be made with belief systems like that.
Your premise is flawed, in that it requires ever Muslim on the planet (all 2,500,000,000+ of them) share the exact same dogmatic view. They don't, anymore than Catholics and the Westboro Baptist Church do.
Had you said that every Christian believes it's OK to murder entire populaces (save the virgin daughters, that is; funny, there are a lot of stories in the "peaceful" Bible that end with wholesale slaughter and child-rape, all with the nodding approval of the Christian "God"), you'd be guilty of the same fallacious thinking.
(cue the deniers in 5, 4, 3, 2, 1...
Well, maybe if in the future you were to refrain from making obviously false blanket generalizations, no one would feel compelled to point out your hypocrisy.
A group of purported hackers in the Middle East has claimed credit for problems at the websites of both banks, citing the online video mocking the founder of Islam. One security source called that statement "a cover" for the Iranian government's operations... Also, one source suggested the attacks were in response to U.S. sanctions on Iranian banks.
... and of course, if an anonymous coward says it, it must be true!
A ["]conservative["] website, FreeBeacon.com, initially reported on the Pentagon analysis, quoting it as saying, “Iran’s cyber aggression should be viewed as a component, alongside efforts like support for terrorism, to the larger covert war Tehran is waging against the west.” U.S officials did not deny the FreeBeacon report when queried by NBC News.
Uh... it's not really 'aggression' when it's in response to a previous, unprovoked attack, is it? I think the phrase you're looking for is "the best defense is a good offense."
The former head of cyber-security for the White House testified Thursday that “we were waiting for something like this from Iran.”
So... US/Isreal invades Iranian territory, hacks their computers causing millions in physical damage to equipment, murders Iranian nationals within their own borders with drive-by bombings, sanctions, constant threats and saber-rattling... but Iran and their allies are the terrorists for allegedly perpetrating a DDoS attack on a couple outward-facing bank websites?
Yea, I think most bullies would, at some point, realize that at least one of the people they've fucked with will eventually retaliate.
Just refuse to apply for state ID or driver's licenses.
Yup, and lose your ability to drive, vote, have access to government buildings and services...
No, everyone drives anyway, voting is nearly meaningless anymore if all you're choosing between is (D) and (R) clones, and you learn to do without government services. What, you think securing you and your children's freedom would be easy or painless?
If 100's of thousands or millions of drivers refuse to apply for licenses and drive anyway, are they going to shut down the streets and roads? Arrest a large proportion of the entire state's population?
Touche, suh.
Nah, they'll just turn it into another revenue-generation mechanism and continue pounding our collective asses, just from a different angle.
You don't pay the fines. If the majority of people, or even a significant percentage, simply decided en-mass to ignore obtaining a driver's license, and ignored tickets/fines for doing so, do you think they'd be able to really do much about it short of following in Syria's footsteps and start lobbing bombs and artillery shells into residential neighborhoods and gunning down civilians indiscriminately in the streets?
Yet the sheep continue to baa for more and rush to hand over ever more of their freedom, give the terrorists in government ever more power to enslave them, and fork over ever more of the people's wealth to pay for the chains.
Strat
Yea, but the catch is, first we have to convince a majority of the population of A) what's going on, and B) that freedom is worth fighting and sacrificing for.
Yup, it's truly sickening. Also a good part of the reason I always want to punch anyone who pops off with "you get the government you deserve." No, motherfucker, I get stuck the government you deserve, 'cuz you (collectively speaking) are a bunch of self-centered pussies, too scared of your own shadow to stand up for yourself and your neighbors.
We certainly agree here.
"All tyranny needs to gain a foothold is for people of good conscience to remain silent." - Thomas Jefferson
"What country can preserve its liberties if their rulers are not warned from time to time that their people preserve the Spirit of Resistance." - Thomas Jefferson
"When people fear their government, there is tyranny. When government fears the people, there is liberty." - Thomas Jefferson
And for Psion who replied to my OP above:
"Timid men prefer the calm of despotism to the tempestuous sea of liberty." - Thomas Jefferson
Strat
Good list, here's one you missed: "The truth is, all men having power ought to be mistrusted." - James Madison
A phenomenon previously only shown when people signed up as a Democrat.
Do you support baby eating?
Human being: NO!
Democrat: Only if they are babies who totally depend on other people to sustain them!
Mind you, a democrat could never have his moral compass reversed. You cannot reverse that which does not exist. Democrat Schwarzenegger attempted to show that Democrat do however have a heart after he needed a pacemaker. Indeed, it showed that Democrat do have a heart. A diseased organ that can only be kept functioning through the repeated application of electric shocks. Not sure what he tried to proof? That cattle prods should be used on Democrats?
According to new Swiss research, you should now start defending the above position regarding democrats...
Or does this method not work when one appends "on the internet?"
going to be smiling big time when i get my next ID.
Easy fix (sort of).
Just refuse to apply for state ID or driver's licenses.
Yup, and lose your ability to drive, vote, have access to government buildings and services...
Not being arch, just pointing out facts.
If 100's of thousands or millions of drivers refuse to apply for licenses and drive anyway, are they going to shut down the streets and roads? Arrest a large proportion of the entire state's population?
Nah, they'll just turn it into another revenue-generation mechanism and continue pounding our collective asses, just from a different angle.
I'm sick and tired of this emerging police state. You're *far* more likely to be struck by lightning or be attacked by sharks than to be killed by a terrorist attack.
Well, now, that all depends on your definition of terrorism - if we go by the dictionary, then a person actually is far more likely to be harmed by a terrorist than struck by lightning. The catch is, said terrorist will likely be wearing a government-issued uniform, and be imbued with authority by whatever fascist regime is in charge at the time.
Yet the sheep continue to baa for more and rush to hand over ever more of their freedom, give the terrorists in government ever more power to enslave them, and fork over ever more of the people's wealth to pay for the chains.
Strat
Yup, it's truly sickening. Also a good part of the reason I always want to punch anyone who pops off with "you get the government you deserve." No, motherfucker, I get stuck the government you deserve, 'cuz you (collectively speaking) are a bunch of self-centered pussies, too scared of your own shadow to stand up for yourself and your neighbors.
do you think the marketing exec could pass the Turing test?
Well, perhaps, if not for the satanic ritual that's part of graduating from marketing school, during which the individual's soul and humanity are removed and replaced with tapioca pudding.
Before you ask, it's obviously because tapioca is the most evil of all puddings.
At the same you complain that Marketing people look down on you. But your job is important right? You're better then janitor right?
Huh? I used to be a janitor, fella, and I can tell you, the people who spend their careers cleaning up your shit so you don't have to are some pretty fucking awesome people.
Here's a word of advice - your pay scale does not, in any way, reflect what kind of person you are. One look into any boardroom in this nation is all one needs to know that most of the people who take home the lion's share are complete, abject pieces of shit. Hell, nevermind looking at them, just look at how much they pay themselves to do virtually nothing, compared to how much they pay the people who actually make their money for them.
You want marketing people to respect you, but you don't respect them, or people that make your work comfrtable.
I couldn't give a shit less what 'marketing people' or anyone else thinks of me, Chief. Spending your entire life trying to live up to other people's expectations of you is no way to live.
Oh, oh... Executive Officers clean up overflowing toilets. Not so they get an appreciation of what is being done, but for the general entertainment of the rest of us!
Hell, I'd pay to see just one of the suits around here cleanin' a shitter or two...
You know, I almost wonder if anyone has ever sat on a phone conference and just parroted whatever comes up on that thing. I think with a typical non-technical tech PM talking to another non-technical tech PM (something I've actually seen a lot) this could actually fly. Would be at least fun to try!
Say...
If you hooked a chatbot up to one of those things, and had a marketing exec play the part of the human, do you think it would pass the Turing test?
Followup - assuming that the marketing drone affirms the chatbot as human, would that mean that the chatbot passed the Turing test, or that the "human" marketing drone failed it?
Thanks for the info; always nice to learn something new.
And I have to go. It's been fantastic, you prissy dick licker. I'm going to get my weekly cosmic radiation dose, which will exceed any dose I have every recieved from DU, even though I regularly handle it. Good day, shitface. I say good day!!!!
Good day to you as well, you uptight man-banana gobbler. I must say, I haven't gotten into a good flamewar for some time, and you, sir (I assume sir, anyway), are quite the formidable opponent, to which I tip my hat. Contrary to earlier commentary, I hope your flight goes (went) well, and wish you the best... which probably seems a bit fucked up considering the lengthy bashing we just gave each other, but then again, I've never been one to hold a grudge.
I agree that seeing the actual post would be enlightening, but the fact he likened his hypothetical actions to a concrete event makes me think that this wasn't simply an off-handed comment.
Uh, point of contention - he didn't liken anything to the Aurora shooting, "the authorities" did.
God help us we reach a point where, in a legal sense, the words cops put in our mouths are taken as if we actually made the statement ourselves.
Of course they don't. That would be terrorism. This kind of speech can be quite dangerous, only the MBA dropout with a forensic analyst certificate he bought online testifying in court will be allowed to read it.
Let's assume BPA is bad. The question is, is it worse than no BPA? The reasons cans are lined with plastic are to prevent botulism and to keep the contents from eating through the cans.
Really, though, there's no reason we need to keep doing this. Just switch everything back to glass. The occasional shattering bottle is probably less of a danger to society than the constant poisoning through food and drinks.
Not to mention, things just plain taste better when coming from a glass container.
Yes, I know that's entirely anecdotal, but instead of having your normal, knee-jerk reaction of pointing out the obvious, I implore the/. audience to go get a can of your favorite soda, and a glass bottle of the same, and do your own taste test.
Oh, no, you misunderstand - I just meant that I don't give a rat's ass if you give yourself an aneurysm. I am actually enjoying the evolution of this conversation, especially how it's gone from vitriolic -> extremely vitriolic -> trading barbs -> almost a pleasant discussion.
People are weird; our interactions with each other, moreso.
Meanwhile, I'm just waiting for my flight. I'll log off when the stewardesses tell me to, or I'm tired of taking my break from doing science all day.
Well, heck, if you're needing something to do, I'm sure there's at least one or two TSA agents with nothin' going on who would be happy to oblige...
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Yep that has about 4 good ones. But that doesn't prove frequent, more or less all the time, which was the way back claim. Rather that list proves infrequent.
Depends on what metric we're using to measure frequency. Also, that is by no means a comprehensive list of all collegiate sports-related violence in this country.
http://www.campusgrotto.com/the-7-biggest-college-riots-of-all-time.html
Better?
Ever try doing a port scan on a 286? Aint’ fun.
Oh, yea, I did that once, way back in the early '90s...
Still waiting on the results.
The Koran is the less important part of Islamic dogma (just like the Bible is for Catholicism and the Torah is for Judaism). It's all about the Hadith (and the Magisterium for Catholicism and Talmud for Judaism).
As for what the Hadith stand for ... well it ain't pretty.
16 years as a Catholic, even went to Catholic school for a little while, and I never heard the term "Magisterium" before today (had to Wiki it just to be sure you weren't making shit up). Contrarily, we read from the Bible pretty much daily. One would think, if "Magisterium" were such a crucial part of Catholic life, I'd have heard it as some point prior to today.
I call bullshit on your theory.
Maybe in Europe but in the USA no we don't have frequent sports riots.
Think collegiate sports.
The Muslims are not worse than what Christians used to be with the Crusades, the Inquisition, witch trials...
Firebombing movie theaters, murdering abortion doctors, tormenting the families of dead soldiers...
Religions can change, the problem is that Islam largely haven't.
Just because you conveniently ignore the violence of modern "Christians," doesn't mean it's not happening. Pot, say hello to kettle.
Perhaps you should consider removing the 2x4 from your own eye, before you whine about the dust speck in your neighbors. - Matthew 7:5
the underlying theme in koran writings IS that the dhimmis (ie, all of us non-moslems) are to be conquered or killed. eventually. until then, they are allowed to lie to us and do whatever it takes in order to secure their future.
LOOK IT UP.
I wish I was kidding. this is nasty, ugly shit, but its the basic overall guiding concept. it really is ;(
no peace can be made with belief systems like that.
Your premise is flawed, in that it requires ever Muslim on the planet (all 2,500,000,000+ of them) share the exact same dogmatic view. They don't, anymore than Catholics and the Westboro Baptist Church do.
Had you said that every Christian believes it's OK to murder entire populaces (save the virgin daughters, that is; funny, there are a lot of stories in the "peaceful" Bible that end with wholesale slaughter and child-rape, all with the nodding approval of the Christian "God"), you'd be guilty of the same fallacious thinking.
(cue the deniers in 5, 4, 3, 2, 1...
Well, maybe if in the future you were to refrain from making obviously false blanket generalizations, no one would feel compelled to point out your hypocrisy.
Who grades the evaluation?
You.
Stop being intentionally obtuse - it does nothing to further your point, and only serves to make yourself look like a pedantic jackass.
Uh... it's not really 'aggression' when it's in response to a previous, unprovoked attack, is it? I think the phrase you're looking for is "the best defense is a good offense."
So... US/Isreal invades Iranian territory, hacks their computers causing millions in physical damage to equipment, murders Iranian nationals within their own borders with drive-by bombings, sanctions, constant threats and saber-rattling... but Iran and their allies are the terrorists for allegedly perpetrating a DDoS attack on a couple outward-facing bank websites?
Yea, I think most bullies would, at some point, realize that at least one of the people they've fucked with will eventually retaliate.
No, we don't apologize to them, we subvert their democracy and install our own monsters that kill and enslave them, much more civilized.
Ooh, ooh, don't forget murdering their citizens in acts of terrorism and kidnapping them for the purpose of torture!
Such moral high ground our government has to stand on... oh, wait, that's not ground, it's a pile of bodies...
No, everyone drives anyway, voting is nearly meaningless anymore if all you're choosing between is (D) and (R) clones, and you learn to do without government services. What, you think securing you and your children's freedom would be easy or painless?
Touche, suh.
Nah, they'll just turn it into another revenue-generation mechanism and continue pounding our collective asses, just from a different angle.
You don't pay the fines. If the majority of people, or even a significant percentage, simply decided en-mass to ignore obtaining a driver's license, and ignored tickets/fines for doing so, do you think they'd be able to really do much about it short of following in Syria's footsteps and start lobbing bombs and artillery shells into residential neighborhoods and gunning down civilians indiscriminately in the streets?
Yea, but the catch is, first we have to convince a majority of the population of A) what's going on, and B) that freedom is worth fighting and sacrificing for.
Yup, it's truly sickening. Also a good part of the reason I always want to punch anyone who pops off with "you get the government you deserve." No, motherfucker, I get stuck the government you deserve, 'cuz you (collectively speaking) are a bunch of self-centered pussies, too scared of your own shadow to stand up for yourself and your neighbors.
We certainly agree here.
"All tyranny needs to gain a foothold is for people of good conscience to remain silent." - Thomas Jefferson
"What country can preserve its liberties if their rulers are not warned from time to time that their people preserve the Spirit of Resistance." - Thomas Jefferson
"When people fear their government, there is tyranny. When government fears the people, there is liberty." - Thomas Jefferson
And for Psion who replied to my OP above:
"Timid men prefer the calm of despotism to the tempestuous sea of liberty." - Thomas Jefferson
Strat
Good list, here's one you missed: "The truth is, all men having power ought to be mistrusted." - James Madison
Before you ask, it's obviously because tapioca is the most evil of all puddings.
No, a Black Pudding is the most evil of all puddings, followed by it's cousin, the grey ooze.
Just don't go around kicking any sinks, you should be fine.
A phenomenon previously only shown when people signed up as a Democrat.
Do you support baby eating?
Human being: NO!
Democrat: Only if they are babies who totally depend on other people to sustain them!
Mind you, a democrat could never have his moral compass reversed. You cannot reverse that which does not exist. Democrat Schwarzenegger attempted to show that Democrat do however have a heart after he needed a pacemaker. Indeed, it showed that Democrat do have a heart. A diseased organ that can only be kept functioning through the repeated application of electric shocks. Not sure what he tried to proof? That cattle prods should be used on Democrats?
According to new Swiss research, you should now start defending the above position regarding democrats...
Or does this method not work when one appends "on the internet?"
going to be smiling big time when i get my next ID.
Easy fix (sort of).
Just refuse to apply for state ID or driver's licenses.
Yup, and lose your ability to drive, vote, have access to government buildings and services...
Not being arch, just pointing out facts.
If 100's of thousands or millions of drivers refuse to apply for licenses and drive anyway, are they going to shut down the streets and roads? Arrest a large proportion of the entire state's population?
Nah, they'll just turn it into another revenue-generation mechanism and continue pounding our collective asses, just from a different angle.
I'm sick and tired of this emerging police state. You're *far* more likely to be struck by lightning or be attacked by sharks than to be killed by a terrorist attack.
Well, now, that all depends on your definition of terrorism - if we go by the dictionary, then a person actually is far more likely to be harmed by a terrorist than struck by lightning. The catch is, said terrorist will likely be wearing a government-issued uniform, and be imbued with authority by whatever fascist regime is in charge at the time.
Yet the sheep continue to baa for more and rush to hand over ever more of their freedom, give the terrorists in government ever more power to enslave them, and fork over ever more of the people's wealth to pay for the chains.
Strat
Yup, it's truly sickening. Also a good part of the reason I always want to punch anyone who pops off with "you get the government you deserve." No, motherfucker, I get stuck the government you deserve, 'cuz you (collectively speaking) are a bunch of self-centered pussies, too scared of your own shadow to stand up for yourself and your neighbors.
...
I smell me a slashvertisement...
Rather thinly veiled one, at that.
do you think the marketing exec could pass the Turing test?
Well, perhaps, if not for the satanic ritual that's part of graduating from marketing school, during which the individual's soul and humanity are removed and replaced with tapioca pudding.
Before you ask, it's obviously because tapioca is the most evil of all puddings.
At the same you complain that Marketing people look down on you. But your job is important right? You're better then janitor right?
Huh? I used to be a janitor, fella, and I can tell you, the people who spend their careers cleaning up your shit so you don't have to are some pretty fucking awesome people.
Here's a word of advice - your pay scale does not, in any way, reflect what kind of person you are. One look into any boardroom in this nation is all one needs to know that most of the people who take home the lion's share are complete, abject pieces of shit. Hell, nevermind looking at them, just look at how much they pay themselves to do virtually nothing, compared to how much they pay the people who actually make their money for them.
You want marketing people to respect you, but you don't respect them, or people that make your work comfrtable.
I couldn't give a shit less what 'marketing people' or anyone else thinks of me, Chief. Spending your entire life trying to live up to other people's expectations of you is no way to live.
Oh, oh... Executive Officers clean up overflowing toilets. Not so they get an appreciation of what is being done, but for the general entertainment of the rest of us!
Hell, I'd pay to see just one of the suits around here cleanin' a shitter or two...
You know, I almost wonder if anyone has ever sat on a phone conference and just parroted whatever comes up on that thing. I think with a typical non-technical tech PM talking to another non-technical tech PM (something I've actually seen a lot) this could actually fly. Would be at least fun to try!
Say...
If you hooked a chatbot up to one of those things, and had a marketing exec play the part of the human, do you think it would pass the Turing test?
Followup - assuming that the marketing drone affirms the chatbot as human, would that mean that the chatbot passed the Turing test, or that the "human" marketing drone failed it?
Note: I'm only half-ass joking.
And I have to go. It's been fantastic, you prissy dick licker. I'm going to get my weekly cosmic radiation dose, which will exceed any dose I have every recieved from DU, even though I regularly handle it. Good day, shitface. I say good day!!!!
Good day to you as well, you uptight man-banana gobbler. I must say, I haven't gotten into a good flamewar for some time, and you, sir (I assume sir, anyway), are quite the formidable opponent, to which I tip my hat. Contrary to earlier commentary, I hope your flight goes (went) well, and wish you the best... which probably seems a bit fucked up considering the lengthy bashing we just gave each other, but then again, I've never been one to hold a grudge.
Peace out, yo.
I agree that seeing the actual post would be enlightening, but the fact he likened his hypothetical actions to a concrete event makes me think that this wasn't simply an off-handed comment.
Uh, point of contention - he didn't liken anything to the Aurora shooting, "the authorities" did.
God help us we reach a point where, in a legal sense, the words cops put in our mouths are taken as if we actually made the statement ourselves.
the guy threatened violence on line
the guy's words are evidence that he made a threat of violence
burden of evidence met
[citation desperately needed]
Of course they don't. That would be terrorism. This kind of speech can be quite dangerous, only the MBA dropout with a forensic analyst certificate he bought online testifying in court will be allowed to read it.
FTFY.
Let's assume BPA is bad. The question is, is it worse than no BPA? The reasons cans are lined with plastic are to prevent botulism and to keep the contents from eating through the cans.
Really, though, there's no reason we need to keep doing this. Just switch everything back to glass. The occasional shattering bottle is probably less of a danger to society than the constant poisoning through food and drinks.
Not to mention, things just plain taste better when coming from a glass container.
/. audience to go get a can of your favorite soda, and a glass bottle of the same, and do your own taste test.
Yes, I know that's entirely anecdotal, but instead of having your normal, knee-jerk reaction of pointing out the obvious, I implore the
People are weird; our interactions with each other, moreso.
Meanwhile, I'm just waiting for my flight. I'll log off when the stewardesses tell me to, or I'm tired of taking my break from doing science all day.
Well, heck, if you're needing something to do, I'm sure there's at least one or two TSA agents with nothin' going on who would be happy to oblige...