Stop doing shit you don't want the People to know about.
Cue the state-owned lapdogs prattling on about the dangers of military secrets becoming public knowledge, in spite of the fact that all the fallout from leaked documents thus far has been political, and in no way put any of our troops at risk.
In a Darwinian sense the only thing that matters is how many offspring you leave behind. How long you live doesn't count for jack, neither does how many asses you can or cannot kick in a deathmatch. So ask yourself the big question. Billionaires like Gates and Jobs didn't leave a thousand children sired on thousand mothers (each one a smoking hot babe, fittest specimens they could find) behind, all with a free ride through the university of their choice and into a career of their choosing, leaving them all in good positions to spread the royal seed even more; but they COULD if they wanted to. Could you?
Ha, touche, sir! You've got me there!
I mean, maybe a couple hundred, but fuck, not sure I'd be able to stand afterwards...
And I say that a million people will willingly DO your dirty work in exchange for the obligations incurred by virtue of the goods and services you produce makes you stronger and a more fit specimen.
Still disagree, on the merit that you could hand a billion dollars to damn near any human on the planet and see nearly identical result. IMO, if it's something EVERYONE would do, including, say, creationists, then it's not an evolutionary advantage.
And I further point out the clearly evident fact that females of our species routinely make the same judgement in picking a less physically fit but financially capable mate. Hell, even a few males have no problem marrying into wealth.... including one fairly recent POTUS contender.
Well, if that's what passes for evolution these days, then count me out. The way I see it, there's more to life (and the evolution thereof) than pursuit of money.*
We survivalists tend to think that way.
*... and not even something of real value, but little green shreds of paper that the government promises are worth maybe, maybe 1/16th of the precious materials that supposedly exists to back them... Damn fractional reserve... we're all getting screwed, rich and poor alike... mostly poor, tho...
Aerosmith decides to play a show in a public park down the street from my house. Since I can hear the entire show from my back porch, I have every right in the world to place a tape recorder on my own property and record the public performance. Granted, it is likely still illegal to profit from said recording, but making it is decidedly not criminal.
If you're in the US, it is illegal. Section 106 of Section 17 (i.e. copyright law) gives them exclusive rights "to reproduce the copyrighted work in copies or phonorecords" unless you have a valid fair use reason for said recording. "Because I wanted to listen to it later" isn't a valid reason.
The sound waves trespassed on my property. Are you saying it's illegal to record the sound waves that enter my private property?
No need to bother the coders trying to fix the problem, with the exception of maybe pulling one or two aside for 15 minutes to write down exactly what the issue is, so the reps can explain it to irate customers.
Oh, that's just so easy! No problem, just "pull one or two of the programmers who are trying to solve the problem aside for fifteen minutes", yeah, that's all! Easy, just fifteen minutes! Twenty, tops! Well, maybe thirty, if they have to explain it in terms management can understand. No more than an hour, certainly, or, anyway, no more than two. Well, unless management has questions, then maybe a little more. Half a day, tops, dead certain.
Yea, and? Like I keep trying to tell you, it's not like Apple is some tiny little startup with only 1-2 guys doing code; they have a veritable fucking ARMY of coders, so having one or two take a day to explain to customer service what sort of calls they should be expecting is not unreasonable. Hell, it would be unreasonable to not give CS a heads up, considering that this little fuck-up (which is likely the coders' fault) probably quadrupled the call volume.
Idiot. I just hope you're not in management.
Fuck. You. Assbasket.
I don't need to hope, I can tell by your complete lack of knowledge that you've never worked at a real corporation before, at least beyond cleaning the shitters.
If I could be called an 'idiot' for anything, it would be responding to your dumb ass in the hope you might actually posses the cognitive faculties required to understand such a simple, simple concept of giving decent customer service.
Except that, ignorance was my mistake, not idiocy. Now that I know what kind of granite-headed imbecile you are, I can assure you I won't make that mistake again.
They are starting to do this with iOS 6. I have they beta on my device and anytime an app wants access to your contacts, calendar information, reminders, and/or photos the OS asks the user if it's okay for the app to access such things.
If I really wanted to be a dick about it, I could claim that my recording was individual art in of itself, and publicly distribute it.
Of course, that's all non sequitur to the point, as this particular discussion is in regards to the legality of making the recording itself.
To that end, as Youtube has no membership or payment requirement to view videos, uploading to Youtube is essentially creating a public performance. If the performance is public, than anyone within earshot/sight range has the legal right to create a recording for their own personal use, from their own property.
The day that recording a public performance becomes illegal, is the day "public" ceases to exist.
power (i.e., of the sociopolitical variety) != strength, at least, not in the Darwinian sense that I am specifically referring to.
Having all the money in the world won't save you from genetic weakness; just ask Steve Jobs. Oh wait, you can't, because even his vast wealth couldn't make up for the fact that he was, in the evolutionary sense, weaker than, say, you and I.
Which is my point; being able to hire a million people to do your dirty work for you does not make you stronger; in fact, considering that doing so tends to generate a dependence on said army, I would posit that such activity actually weakens the individual.
Apple has the financial security to hire nations of customer support people if they wanted to, tasked with answering questions from customers. No need to bother the coders trying to fix the problem, with the exception of maybe pulling one or two aside for 15 minutes to write down exactly what the issue is, so the reps can explain it to irate customers. Of course, this is assuming they don't toe the iLine and pretend like there's nothing wrong, outright lying to customers and accusing them of being, for lack of a better word, idiots ('you're holding it wrong').
You seem to be under the impression Apple is some tiny start-up, one who can't afford to take the time to reassure customers while they fix the problem. They aren't. Stop thinking that way.
Not to feed the trolls, but where does this idea that monetary wealth = strength come from? I'd put Billy Gates' fortune against mine that in a one-on-one deathmatch, I'd eat that scrawny fuck for lunch.
In general, you can do work or you can answer questions from management, but you can't do both.
Not buying it; we're not talking about some open-source, crowd-funded underdog, here - If you're really trying to convince me that communicating with customers when things go wrong is too much work for a company that has more money than the government, you've got a tough road ahead.
It becomes even harder to convince me of such when taking into account Apple's history of deny,deny,deny.
There are videos with copyrighted material on YouTube which is allowed to be on YouTube (many artists/labels put music up themselves). That doesn't mean anyone is free to turn it into an mp3.
Bullshit. For example:
Aerosmith decides to play a show in a public park down the street from my house. Since I can hear the entire show from my back porch, I have every right in the world to place a tape recorder on my own property and record the public performance. Granted, it is likely still illegal to profit from said recording, but making it is decidedly not criminal.
The key phrase here, of course, is "public performance." Once you put something out on the public airwaves, where every Tom, Dick, and Harry has access, you effectively surrender your control over its distribution.
Well, it seems to me that they did the correct thing, which is to put their resources into fixing the problem first, and discuss the problem with angry users later.
If Apple is so short on resources they can't afford to work on the problem and simultaniously dedicate 1 person to sending a message out to an email list saying "hey, we messed something up, give us a few to get it fixed," They've got some serious issues.
What's that? More cash on hand than the federal government? In that case, no excuse (other than ego, of course).
So when you posted your original comment regarding safety, you didn't ask a question in a way that distinguished yourself from the anti-science crowd - instead, you used the term "the jury's still out", which sounds exactly like their statements regarding anything they are trying to appear neutral or thoughtful on, yet are still trying to keep a controversy brewing. And I think that's why some people were unkind in their responses to you.
The irony of those responses is, that by essentially claiming "all RF is safe," even though it is a well-known fact that certain frequencies are indeed unsafe, those people are unwittingly giving the "wifi sickness" crowd more ammunition, by indicating that they (my respondents) themselves do not, in fact, understand the nature of RF.
It also indicates a general lack of reading comprehension ability (i.e., giving meaning to my words I did not intend them to have), but that's a topic for another day.
Politics aside, no anti-science viewpoint is ever looked upon kindly by most slashdotters.
A more accurate way to phrase that sentence would have been "Politics aside, no viewpoint that is perceived as anti-scientific is ever looked upon kindly."
Just look at the number of decidedly unscientific statements of "All RF is safe" on this thread that have been modded either Informative or Insightful, despite the fact it is, to anyone who actually knows thing 1 about RF, a false statement to make (whereas the one guy who points out that the public is not fully aware of the amounts and types of RF emissions gets modded Troll).
For a good time ask two groups of people what the 1st derivative of sea level is:
1) Enviroloonies and save the earthers will step out of their Priuses (and/or SUVs) and swear Gaia earth mother goddess set the 1st derivative of sea level to be always and forever more zero until the evil political opponents raped the earth and elected Reagan. Zoning committees and housing developers will demand congress pass a law to make the 1st deriv of sea level be zero by pure fiat, or Gaia earth mother goddess will get an arrest warrant for not holding the 1st deriv constant, should she ever descend to earth from heaven in her birkenstocks and unshaven glory when she makes an apparition at the drumming circle or maybe the homeopathic clinic... these are the same people who claim they could never have predicted a hurricane could strike the coast so the inland people should all pay to bail them out, every couple years, over and over and over and over...
2) Geologists and scientists in general will point out that other than very rare short term local maxima/minima the 1st derivative of sea level has never been zero and probably never will be, and anyone planning on the sea level never going up or down is doomed to unhappiness.
The two groups can't make any sense of each other, mostly because only one group lives in a scientific reality.
You forgot 3) Creationist-Birthers, who will demand the scientists be tarred, feathered, and run out on a rail for daring to challenge their unquestionable faith in the Great Googelly-Moogelly in the Sky. Science = witchcraft, after all.
Of course I could just transcode and avoid the whole VLC / hardware compatibility list whatever.
You could, but why make all that extra work for yourself?
1 - download media file to device
2 - discover it doesn't play on the stock player (*.avi, for example)
3 - copy file from device to computer
4 - fire up transcoding software and wait 10 min - 1hour+ for completion
5 - copy new transcoded file back to device
6 - play file in stock player (maybe, assuming the transcoder didn't mess anything up, you had all the settings perfect, Venus is in alignment, etc.)
--or--
1 - download media file to device 2 - play in VLC
At least, that's how it's worked for me thus far, but of course, YMMV.
My local water company has switched over to smart meters for water usage. Now that they have pseudo-realtime flow information, they have reduced their operations costs by about $200k/year and my water will has gone down because of reduced rates.
You mean those 5 guys making $40K/yr running around all day reading meters are unemployed now.
No, he means the 10 guys making $20K/yr reading meters are all unemployed now.
Unless your local utility is more generous than my own...
" I would guess the jury's out on that one,"
no, it isn't. It's safe. The only people saying it isn't is dimwits and people looking to create a fake "controversy"
Actually, I would say the dimwits are the ones who claim that RF is safe, ignoring the difference between ionizing and non-ionizing RF signals.
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Stop doing shit you don't want the People to know about.
Cue the state-owned lapdogs prattling on about the dangers of military secrets becoming public knowledge, in spite of the fact that all the fallout from leaked documents thus far has been political, and in no way put any of our troops at risk.
Come on, everyone knows that taxes destroy wealth. They don't create it. Try to troll harder next time.
Yea, why do you think America was so poor during the 1950's, when the top tax rate was 90%?
In a Darwinian sense the only thing that matters is how many offspring you leave behind. How long you live doesn't count for jack, neither does how many asses you can or cannot kick in a deathmatch. So ask yourself the big question. Billionaires like Gates and Jobs didn't leave a thousand children sired on thousand mothers (each one a smoking hot babe, fittest specimens they could find) behind, all with a free ride through the university of their choice and into a career of their choosing, leaving them all in good positions to spread the royal seed even more; but they COULD if they wanted to. Could you?
Ha, touche, sir! You've got me there!
I mean, maybe a couple hundred, but fuck, not sure I'd be able to stand afterwards...
And I say that a million people will willingly DO your dirty work in exchange for the obligations incurred by virtue of the goods and services you produce makes you stronger and a more fit specimen.
Still disagree, on the merit that you could hand a billion dollars to damn near any human on the planet and see nearly identical result. IMO, if it's something EVERYONE would do, including, say, creationists, then it's not an evolutionary advantage.
And I further point out the clearly evident fact that females of our species routinely make the same judgement in picking a less physically fit but financially capable mate. Hell, even a few males have no problem marrying into wealth.... including one fairly recent POTUS contender.
Well, if that's what passes for evolution these days, then count me out. The way I see it, there's more to life (and the evolution thereof) than pursuit of money.*
We survivalists tend to think that way.
*... and not even something of real value, but little green shreds of paper that the government promises are worth maybe, maybe 1/16th of the precious materials that supposedly exists to back them... Damn fractional reserve... we're all getting screwed, rich and poor alike... mostly poor, tho...
Aerosmith decides to play a show in a public park down the street from my house. Since I can hear the entire show from my back porch, I have every right in the world to place a tape recorder on my own property and record the public performance. Granted, it is likely still illegal to profit from said recording, but making it is decidedly not criminal.
If you're in the US, it is illegal. Section 106 of Section 17 (i.e. copyright law) gives them exclusive rights "to reproduce the copyrighted work in copies or phonorecords" unless you have a valid fair use reason for said recording. "Because I wanted to listen to it later" isn't a valid reason.
The sound waves trespassed on my property. Are you saying it's illegal to record the sound waves that enter my private property?
Got any legal precedent to back that?
No need to bother the coders trying to fix the problem, with the exception of maybe pulling one or two aside for 15 minutes to write down exactly what the issue is, so the reps can explain it to irate customers.
Oh, that's just so easy! No problem, just "pull one or two of the programmers who are trying to solve the problem aside for fifteen minutes", yeah, that's all! Easy, just fifteen minutes! Twenty, tops! Well, maybe thirty, if they have to explain it in terms management can understand. No more than an hour, certainly, or, anyway, no more than two. Well, unless management has questions, then maybe a little more. Half a day, tops, dead certain.
Yea, and? Like I keep trying to tell you, it's not like Apple is some tiny little startup with only 1-2 guys doing code; they have a veritable fucking ARMY of coders, so having one or two take a day to explain to customer service what sort of calls they should be expecting is not unreasonable. Hell, it would be unreasonable to not give CS a heads up, considering that this little fuck-up (which is likely the coders' fault) probably quadrupled the call volume.
Idiot. I just hope you're not in management.
Fuck. You. Assbasket.
I don't need to hope, I can tell by your complete lack of knowledge that you've never worked at a real corporation before, at least beyond cleaning the shitters.
If I could be called an 'idiot' for anything, it would be responding to your dumb ass in the hope you might actually posses the cognitive faculties required to understand such a simple, simple concept of giving decent customer service.
Except that, ignorance was my mistake, not idiocy. Now that I know what kind of granite-headed imbecile you are, I can assure you I won't make that mistake again.
They are starting to do this with iOS 6. I have they beta on my device and anytime an app wants access to your contacts, calendar information, reminders, and/or photos the OS asks the user if it's okay for the app to access such things.
In other words... Windows UAC.
I can also give copies away at my own expense.
Meant to qualify this as hard copies, i.e. CD's, hand delivered.
I can listen to it.
I can also give copies away at my own expense.
If I really wanted to be a dick about it, I could claim that my recording was individual art in of itself, and publicly distribute it.
Of course, that's all non sequitur to the point, as this particular discussion is in regards to the legality of making the recording itself.
To that end, as Youtube has no membership or payment requirement to view videos, uploading to Youtube is essentially creating a public performance. If the performance is public, than anyone within earshot/sight range has the legal right to create a recording for their own personal use, from their own property.
The day that recording a public performance becomes illegal, is the day "public" ceases to exist.
power (i.e., of the sociopolitical variety) != strength, at least, not in the Darwinian sense that I am specifically referring to.
Having all the money in the world won't save you from genetic weakness; just ask Steve Jobs. Oh wait, you can't, because even his vast wealth couldn't make up for the fact that he was, in the evolutionary sense, weaker than, say, you and I.
Which is my point; being able to hire a million people to do your dirty work for you does not make you stronger; in fact, considering that doing so tends to generate a dependence on said army, I would posit that such activity actually weakens the individual.
Money has nothing to do with it.
Money has everything to do with it.
Apple has the financial security to hire nations of customer support people if they wanted to, tasked with answering questions from customers. No need to bother the coders trying to fix the problem, with the exception of maybe pulling one or two aside for 15 minutes to write down exactly what the issue is, so the reps can explain it to irate customers. Of course, this is assuming they don't toe the iLine and pretend like there's nothing wrong, outright lying to customers and accusing them of being, for lack of a better word, idiots ('you're holding it wrong').
You seem to be under the impression Apple is some tiny start-up, one who can't afford to take the time to reassure customers while they fix the problem. They aren't. Stop thinking that way.
Funny - that's what she said.
Not to feed the trolls, but where does this idea that monetary wealth = strength come from? I'd put Billy Gates' fortune against mine that in a one-on-one deathmatch, I'd eat that scrawny fuck for lunch.
You could eat a 20lb sack of potatoes over the same timeframes. How does that not get better as time reduces?
The shorter the time frame, the more entertaining it is to watch someone try and devour 20lb of... well, anything.
Otherwise, why bother timing eating contests?
In general, you can do work or you can answer questions from management, but you can't do both.
Not buying it; we're not talking about some open-source, crowd-funded underdog, here - If you're really trying to convince me that communicating with customers when things go wrong is too much work for a company that has more money than the government, you've got a tough road ahead.
It becomes even harder to convince me of such when taking into account Apple's history of deny, deny, deny.
Better that one man takes the fall (and just shuts down his site) than that the whole world suffers losing unfettered access to youtube source files.
Unless that's you volunteering to be that one man, STFU.
There are videos with copyrighted material on YouTube which is allowed to be on YouTube (many artists/labels put music up themselves). That doesn't mean anyone is free to turn it into an mp3.
Bullshit. For example:
Aerosmith decides to play a show in a public park down the street from my house. Since I can hear the entire show from my back porch, I have every right in the world to place a tape recorder on my own property and record the public performance. Granted, it is likely still illegal to profit from said recording, but making it is decidedly not criminal.
The key phrase here, of course, is "public performance." Once you put something out on the public airwaves, where every Tom, Dick, and Harry has access, you effectively surrender your control over its distribution.
Well, it seems to me that they did the correct thing, which is to put their resources into fixing the problem first, and discuss the problem with angry users later.
If Apple is so short on resources they can't afford to work on the problem and simultaniously dedicate 1 person to sending a message out to an email list saying "hey, we messed something up, give us a few to get it fixed," They've got some serious issues.
What's that? More cash on hand than the federal government? In that case, no excuse (other than ego, of course).
You have to caress it, not just jab at it. I swear, some people.
Is that a stylus in your pocket, or are you just happy to see me?
So when you posted your original comment regarding safety, you didn't ask a question in a way that distinguished yourself from the anti-science crowd - instead, you used the term "the jury's still out", which sounds exactly like their statements regarding anything they are trying to appear neutral or thoughtful on, yet are still trying to keep a controversy brewing. And I think that's why some people were unkind in their responses to you.
The irony of those responses is, that by essentially claiming "all RF is safe," even though it is a well-known fact that certain frequencies are indeed unsafe, those people are unwittingly giving the "wifi sickness" crowd more ammunition, by indicating that they (my respondents) themselves do not, in fact, understand the nature of RF.
It also indicates a general lack of reading comprehension ability (i.e., giving meaning to my words I did not intend them to have), but that's a topic for another day.
Politics aside, no anti-science viewpoint is ever looked upon kindly by most slashdotters.
A more accurate way to phrase that sentence would have been "Politics aside, no viewpoint that is perceived as anti-scientific is ever looked upon kindly."
Just look at the number of decidedly unscientific statements of "All RF is safe" on this thread that have been modded either Informative or Insightful, despite the fact it is, to anyone who actually knows thing 1 about RF, a false statement to make (whereas the one guy who points out that the public is not fully aware of the amounts and types of RF emissions gets modded Troll).
For a good time ask two groups of people what the 1st derivative of sea level is:
1) Enviroloonies and save the earthers will step out of their Priuses (and/or SUVs) and swear Gaia earth mother goddess set the 1st derivative of sea level to be always and forever more zero until the evil political opponents raped the earth and elected Reagan. Zoning committees and housing developers will demand congress pass a law to make the 1st deriv of sea level be zero by pure fiat, or Gaia earth mother goddess will get an arrest warrant for not holding the 1st deriv constant, should she ever descend to earth from heaven in her birkenstocks and unshaven glory when she makes an apparition at the drumming circle or maybe the homeopathic clinic... these are the same people who claim they could never have predicted a hurricane could strike the coast so the inland people should all pay to bail them out, every couple years, over and over and over and over...
2) Geologists and scientists in general will point out that other than very rare short term local maxima/minima the 1st derivative of sea level has never been zero and probably never will be, and anyone planning on the sea level never going up or down is doomed to unhappiness.
The two groups can't make any sense of each other, mostly because only one group lives in a scientific reality.
You forgot 3) Creationist-Birthers, who will demand the scientists be tarred, feathered, and run out on a rail for daring to challenge their unquestionable faith in the Great Googelly-Moogelly in the Sky. Science = witchcraft, after all.
Especially when shit like this happens...
Of course I could just transcode and avoid the whole VLC / hardware compatibility list whatever.
You could, but why make all that extra work for yourself?
1 - download media file to device
2 - discover it doesn't play on the stock player (*.avi, for example)
3 - copy file from device to computer
4 - fire up transcoding software and wait 10 min - 1hour+ for completion
5 - copy new transcoded file back to device
6 - play file in stock player (maybe, assuming the transcoder didn't mess anything up, you had all the settings perfect, Venus is in alignment, etc.)
--or--
1 - download media file to device
2 - play in VLC
At least, that's how it's worked for me thus far, but of course, YMMV.
Exactly what I wanted to know.
Thanks for providing the information, as well as doing so without being a dick about it.
My local water company has switched over to smart meters for water usage. Now that they have pseudo-realtime flow information, they have reduced their operations costs by about $200k/year and my water will has gone down because of reduced rates.
You mean those 5 guys making $40K/yr running around all day reading meters are unemployed now.
No, he means the 10 guys making $20K/yr reading meters are all unemployed now.
Unless your local utility is more generous than my own...
" I would guess the jury's out on that one," no, it isn't. It's safe. The only people saying it isn't is dimwits and people looking to create a fake "controversy"
Actually, I would say the dimwits are the ones who claim that RF is safe, ignoring the difference between ionizing and non-ionizing RF signals.