Think of the children in 10-15 years when they're grown up. As young adults will they want to live in a world where they have a censored internet? Of course not. By protecting children, you are actually HARMING them by limiting their freedom as free, adult citizens.
Agreed - this is "helicopter parenting," made worse by the fact that the vast majority of the people affected will be adults who have not been in need of parenting for quite some time.
Because YOU said "Of course this is with iCloud but you can do the same with the backup stored locally." Stop moving the goddamn goalposts, man, I hate that weasely shit.
It's free for 5GB's (which doesn't include apps -- just data)
So is Google. And Ubuntu One. And about a dozen others. Oh, and FYI - Ubuntu One doesn't care if you're storing apps or data, mainly 'cuz they don't rifle through your belongings. Just saying. I can't speak for the others.
Now, let's see if we can get back to the original point of this conversation: ease of backups on iOS v Android.
1. Install iTunes
2. Plug in your device
3. Click on device in right panel
4. Choose "Back up to this computer"
You only have to do that once. After that you can sync and backup wirelessly to your computer. It only copies data from your phone, any purchased apps, songs, books, etc get downloaded directly from iTunes.
on Android:
1. Install Titanium Backup & preferred online sync program (I prefer Ubuntu One, could ya tell?) to device.
2. Add folder for Titanium backups to sync list.
3. Set schedule for Titanium backup.
4. Have a beer and play some World of Goo while you wait for your buddy to download/install/open iTunes on his computer...BTW, what is this "plug in device" and "click on panel" that you speak of ?:D
Oh and yea, this only has to be done once as well.
Google Market (or Play or whatever they're calling it these days) saves your list of apps. So does Amazon Appstore. SMS, history, and app data is easily backed up to the SD card.
Again, that is restoring your *apps* not the data created by your apps -- i.e. your saved games, etc.
Yes, yes I can. Of course, when you say "another device," you're opening a can of worms you probably didn't expect:
Switching from an AT&T locked iPhone to a Verizon locked iPhone is not restoring to "another device," it's restoring to the same device with a different IMEI. That would be more akin to, say, if my DX died and I got a new one via warranty, than actually switching devices.
The iPhone and iPhone 4S are different devices.
Not in the context I was referring to. Also, doesn't really matter. You implied that seamless data backups with iPhones is easy and possible, while implying seamless data backups with Android is not easy and impossible. Which is not a true statement.
On Android all I have to do is back up my datas to the SD card,
How does that work with all of the data that is not actually on the SD card -- i.e. in the internal memory?
How much more likely is someone to have a recent back up when it's done every day automatically than when you have to pull out the SD card and get (some) of your data on your computer? When you reinstall the app will it recognize that you copied the data for the app back to the SD card?
swap it to the new phone, and restore; how easy is it to restore data from an iPhone to a different (i.e., not another iPhone) device?
Just as easily -- you can restore from any iOS device to another iOS device with the same or later OS (iPads, iPhones, iPod Touhes). Of course you can only restore via iCloud on iOS 5.0+ devices.
Bad guys do bad things and people are afraid to even name them for doing the said bad things... I think the bad guys might be winning.
This. You beat me to it, but, just wow. Fear of fucking retribution for outing the sort of scum who would poison schoolgirls?
GROW A PAIR, "OFFICIALS" - Or get the hell out of the way for someone who will do their job.
Yea, c'mon Congress, get the lobbyist dicks out of your mouths and fucking do something about these crooks!!!
Oh, wait, you were talking about Afghanistan? I was noting this enormous plank in our nation's eye.
Religious folks are free to express their opinions, thanks to the First Amendment.
Conversely, religious folks are not free to force their beliefs on the rest of the populous via legislation, also thanks to the First Amendment.
If your religion tells you that you don't believe abortion is OK, then you have the right to not have an abortion; what you do not have the right to do is force others, who do not share your religious beliefs, to not have abortions via legislation.
If your religion tells you homosexuality is wrong, then you nor your religion are forced to allow homosexuals into your lives; however, you do not have the right to make homosexuals a second class of citizen through legislation.
Liberty is such a simple concept, it never ceases to amaze me why people have such a difficult time comprehending it -
Also, if you honestly believe a group referred to as the "Religious Right" does not use religion as their motivation, well, I've got this bridge in NY state you may be interested in purchasing...
I moved from an iPhone 4 running iOS 5 on AT&T to a Verizon iPhone 4S. I unpacked my phone, turned it on. It asked for my Wi Fi credentials and my username and password for ICloud. A few minutes later, all of my apps were restored with the same screen layout as my iPhone 4 with all the data in tact - including SMS messages, browser history and all of my app data. My iPhone 4S screen looks just like my iPhone 4.
Google Market (or Play or whatever they're calling it these days) saves your list of apps. So does Amazon Appstore. SMS, history, and app data is easily backed up to the SD card.
Of course this is with iCloud but you can do the same with the backup stored locally. Are you going to tell me that you can back up all of your Android data and restore it to another device as seamlessly?
Yes, yes I can. Of course, when you say "another device," you're opening a can of worms you probably didn't expect:
Switching from an AT&T locked iPhone to a Verizon locked iPhone is not restoring to "another device," it's restoring to the same device with a different IMEI. That would be more akin to, say, if my DX died and I got a new one via warranty, than actually switching devices.
On Android all I have to do is back up my datas to the SD card, swap it to the new phone, and restore; how easy is it to restore data from an iPhone to a different (i.e., not another iPhone) device?
Yeah those of us who care about security have been using NoScript for years but this will push the ignorant masses into better security.
A little bit... however, I doubt Mozilla is going to go as far as NoScript with the concept; likely, they'll stick to blocking media (read: Flash videos) and continue to allow the ad servers all the access they want.
Why not use one antenna per channel, and stream it to multiple customers?
Legal wrangling, I assume - if you're pickup up broadcasts with one antenna, then sending it to multiple users, you are redistribution content, and thus subject to applicable laws.
Aereo is claiming that they're merely "renting" users the hardware to receive the signals, probably to skirt copyright law.
Aereo has deployed a small forest of baby antennas, which users rent from Aereo. Chet Kanojia, the company’s chief executive, said the business model of providing a remote antenna for a user is “consistent with over-the-air broadcasting.” He said “it doesn’t require licensing.”
I think Aereo's defense is that they're only providing the antenna, one-per-user, and therefore are not technically streaming anything. Technically, the signal is still originating from the station's transmitter, Aereo is just providing receivers to people who may not necessarily reside in the transmitter's broadcast range.
In layman's terms, it's akin to having a mast antenna on your house, except the antenna is on your neighbor's house 2000 miles away, and you have a really, really long cable.
I have a gun to someone else's head. Are you going to tell me to 'shoot!', for teh lulz?
Or, I'm on webcam with a gun to my head and the hammer pulled. You think it's fine to type out encouraging remarks?
If you don't have a problem with either in the sense of "total liberty" then this discussion can't go anywhere. But if you think the former is not okay but the latter is perfectly reasonable, and it is what a rational person should do in such a situation, then recognize that the person in the latter situation is held hostage by their own mental instability, and the attitude that anything goes when someone is having their own life held hostage reeks of ableism.
No. People who want to kill themselves, kill themselves. People who crave attention blather on and on and on to others about how they "want to kill themselves," then end up doing it by accident.
Your first example is a hostage situation. Non sequitur. Your second example is an attention whore who may just accidentally off himself whilst whoring for attention, to which I say good riddance to bad rubbish. Boy who cried wolf and all.
How is that negligent? If some twat wants to jump in front of my car they should have to pay for the damage they do.
If you are intentionally disabling safety systems, you are actively endangering the lives of others (according to the law). If someone else gets injured because of said act of disabling safety systems, you will be charged with criminal negligence. Conviction would be based on evidence.
Just like driving at night without headlights. Take some responsibility for yourself.
Uh, lemme see... loudspeaker + audio source + the tachometer = programmable sound that varies with engine speed.
What are you doing? Designing a system for use with vacuum tubes? The proper way to do this in modern times is to use GPS to determine the speed of the car, synthesize the required sound by simulating an internal combustion engine and then varying the current to the electric motor, so the axle vibrates to create the required sound. Oh, but GPS updates too infrequently, we probably need an optical detector (like in optical mice) to augment it - use the detector for frequent measurements then calibrate it using GPS.
Now it will be possible to have additional 100MB of software in the car.
Crack. Me. Up.
I guess that's why the auto engineers make the big bucks designing ass-backward systems, while little ol' me just builds stuff that actually works in my garage, eh mon ami?
You don't need to add an engine noise to the car. Use tires that generate a little more noise, most noise is made by the tires anyway, unless you got the pedal to the metal.
That noise tires make is the sound of them wearing; the noisier the tire, the faster it wears out. Take, for example, Jeeps travelling down the highway with off-road tires equipped - you hear them coming a mile away, but chances are they're going to be buying $200-a-pop tires at least twice as often as someone with the proper equipment would.
Not that I don't like the idea, but I would rather spend a pittance of electrical power on a speaker than have to buy more tires.
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Think of the children in 10-15 years when they're grown up. As young adults will they want to live in a world where they have a censored internet? Of course not. By protecting children, you are actually HARMING them by limiting their freedom as free, adult citizens.
Agreed - this is "helicopter parenting," made worse by the fact that the vast majority of the people affected will be adults who have not been in need of parenting for quite some time.
Simple solution, parents should never ever opt-in and any who do are obviously unfit since, as you said, their children may sue their computers.
Ah, I love it when a typo transforms into profound social commentary!
First, why wouldn't you have iCloud?
Because YOU said "Of course this is with iCloud but you can do the same with the backup stored locally." Stop moving the goddamn goalposts, man, I hate that weasely shit.
It's free for 5GB's (which doesn't include apps -- just data)
So is Google. And Ubuntu One. And about a dozen others. Oh, and FYI - Ubuntu One doesn't care if you're storing apps or data, mainly 'cuz they don't rifle through your belongings. Just saying. I can't speak for the others.
Now, let's see if we can get back to the original point of this conversation: ease of backups on iOS v Android.
1. Install iTunes
2. Plug in your device
3. Click on device in right panel
4. Choose "Back up to this computer"
You only have to do that once. After that you can sync and backup wirelessly to your computer. It only copies data from your phone, any purchased apps, songs, books, etc get downloaded directly from iTunes.
on Android:
1. Install Titanium Backup & preferred online sync program (I prefer Ubuntu One, could ya tell?) to device.
2. Add folder for Titanium backups to sync list.
3. Set schedule for Titanium backup.
4. Have a beer and play some World of Goo while you wait for your buddy to download/install/open iTunes on his computer...BTW, what is this "plug in device" and "click on panel" that you speak of ?:D
Oh and yea, this only has to be done once as well.
Thanks for finding the link for us...
That wasn't even the worst example.
Compared to:
Log in to iCloud......
^
Your words.
So, how do iOS backups work without iCloud?
some asshole once wanted me to sign a non-compete before he'd let me do architecture for him in exchange for equity.
Non-compete != NDA.
I agree that is a dick move, but has nothing to do with Non-Disclosure Agreements.
Again, that is restoring your *apps* not the data created by your apps -- i.e. your saved games, etc.
Sigh... http://www.rhlschool.com/reading.htm
The iPhone and iPhone 4S are different devices.
Not in the context I was referring to. Also, doesn't really matter. You implied that seamless data backups with iPhones is easy and possible, while implying seamless data backups with Android is not easy and impossible. Which is not a true statement.
How does that work with all of the data that is not actually on the SD card -- i.e. in the internal memory?
http://www.rhlschool.com/reading.htm
http://matrixrewriter.com/android/
How much more likely is someone to have a recent back up when it's done every day automatically than when you have to pull out the SD card and get (some) of your data on your computer? When you reinstall the app will it recognize that you copied the data for the app back to the SD card?
http://matrixrewriter.com/android/ has a scheduling feature. No PC required.
Just as easily -- you can restore from any iOS device to another iOS device with the same or later OS (iPads, iPhones, iPod Touhes). Of course you can only restore via iCloud on iOS 5.0+ devices.
http://www.rhlschool.com/reading.htm
Bad guys do bad things and people are afraid to even name them for doing the said bad things... I think the bad guys might be winning. This. You beat me to it, but, just wow. Fear of fucking retribution for outing the sort of scum who would poison schoolgirls? GROW A PAIR, "OFFICIALS" - Or get the hell out of the way for someone who will do their job.
Yea, c'mon Congress, get the lobbyist dicks out of your mouths and fucking do something about these crooks!!!
Oh, wait, you were talking about Afghanistan? I was noting this enormous plank in our nation's eye.
Nevermind, as you were...
And occasionally blowing up a building full of innocent people, but that is the absolute limit.
Don't forget murdering doctors. They love murdering doctors...
I certainly don't have the right to tell government what to do. Of course, I'm willing to admit it.
You're either not an American, or you are and you're part of the problem.
Either way, a blatantly ignorant statement.
Religious folks are free to express their opinions, thanks to the First Amendment.
Conversely, religious folks are not free to force their beliefs on the rest of the populous via legislation, also thanks to the First Amendment.
If your religion tells you that you don't believe abortion is OK, then you have the right to not have an abortion; what you do not have the right to do is force others, who do not share your religious beliefs, to not have abortions via legislation.
If your religion tells you homosexuality is wrong, then you nor your religion are forced to allow homosexuals into your lives; however, you do not have the right to make homosexuals a second class of citizen through legislation.
Liberty is such a simple concept, it never ceases to amaze me why people have such a difficult time comprehending it -
Don't fuck with me, won't fuck with you.
Simple.
Republicans just don't want to have to pay for someone else's birth control, you troll
They do, however, want someone else to pay for their hardons.
Also, if you honestly believe a group referred to as the "Religious Right" does not use religion as their motivation, well, I've got this bridge in NY state you may be interested in purchasing...
I moved from an iPhone 4 running iOS 5 on AT&T to a Verizon iPhone 4S. I unpacked my phone, turned it on. It asked for my Wi Fi credentials and my username and password for ICloud. A few minutes later, all of my apps were restored with the same screen layout as my iPhone 4 with all the data in tact - including SMS messages, browser history and all of my app data. My iPhone 4S screen looks just like my iPhone 4.
Google Market (or Play or whatever they're calling it these days) saves your list of apps. So does Amazon Appstore. SMS, history, and app data is easily backed up to the SD card.
Of course this is with iCloud but you can do the same with the backup stored locally. Are you going to tell me that you can back up all of your Android data and restore it to another device as seamlessly?
Yes, yes I can. Of course, when you say "another device," you're opening a can of worms you probably didn't expect:
Switching from an AT&T locked iPhone to a Verizon locked iPhone is not restoring to "another device," it's restoring to the same device with a different IMEI. That would be more akin to, say, if my DX died and I got a new one via warranty, than actually switching devices.
On Android all I have to do is back up my datas to the SD card, swap it to the new phone, and restore; how easy is it to restore data from an iPhone to a different (i.e., not another iPhone) device?
Selling missiles / funding Contras - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Iran%E2%80%93Contra_affair
Colluding with terrorists to win the 1980 election - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/October_surprise#1980_Carter_vs._Reagan
Colluding with terrorists (Al Queda/Mujahadeen) - http://www.democracynow.org/2004/6/10/ghost_wars_how_reagan_armed_the
I know it is popular to view MS as if they only eat babies...
FTFY.
Yeah those of us who care about security have been using NoScript for years but this will push the ignorant masses into better security.
A little bit... however, I doubt Mozilla is going to go as far as NoScript with the concept; likely, they'll stick to blocking media (read: Flash videos) and continue to allow the ad servers all the access they want.
What I want to know is, where do I get one of those tiny antenna arrays?
Looks neat.
Why not use one antenna per channel, and stream it to multiple customers?
Legal wrangling, I assume - if you're pickup up broadcasts with one antenna, then sending it to multiple users, you are redistribution content, and thus subject to applicable laws.
Aereo is claiming that they're merely "renting" users the hardware to receive the signals, probably to skirt copyright law.
NoScript? Already done, thanks.
Aereo has deployed a small forest of baby antennas, which users rent from Aereo. Chet Kanojia, the company’s chief executive, said the business model of providing a remote antenna for a user is “consistent with over-the-air broadcasting.” He said “it doesn’t require licensing.”
I think Aereo's defense is that they're only providing the antenna, one-per-user, and therefore are not technically streaming anything. Technically, the signal is still originating from the station's transmitter, Aereo is just providing receivers to people who may not necessarily reside in the transmitter's broadcast range.
In layman's terms, it's akin to having a mast antenna on your house, except the antenna is on your neighbor's house 2000 miles away, and you have a really, really long cable.
I have a gun to someone else's head. Are you going to tell me to 'shoot!', for teh lulz?
Or, I'm on webcam with a gun to my head and the hammer pulled. You think it's fine to type out encouraging remarks?
If you don't have a problem with either in the sense of "total liberty" then this discussion can't go anywhere. But if you think the former is not okay but the latter is perfectly reasonable, and it is what a rational person should do in such a situation, then recognize that the person in the latter situation is held hostage by their own mental instability, and the attitude that anything goes when someone is having their own life held hostage reeks of ableism.
No. People who want to kill themselves, kill themselves. People who crave attention blather on and on and on to others about how they "want to kill themselves," then end up doing it by accident.
Your first example is a hostage situation. Non sequitur. Your second example is an attention whore who may just accidentally off himself whilst whoring for attention, to which I say good riddance to bad rubbish. Boy who cried wolf and all.
Of the several thousand intersections in my city, I can think of all of 3 that have audible signals.
And those are concentrated around the colleges.
How is that negligent? If some twat wants to jump in front of my car they should have to pay for the damage they do.
If you are intentionally disabling safety systems, you are actively endangering the lives of others (according to the law). If someone else gets injured because of said act of disabling safety systems, you will be charged with criminal negligence. Conviction would be based on evidence.
Just like driving at night without headlights. Take some responsibility for yourself.
Uh, lemme see... loudspeaker + audio source + the tachometer = programmable sound that varies with engine speed.
What are you doing? Designing a system for use with vacuum tubes? The proper way to do this in modern times is to use GPS to determine the speed of the car, synthesize the required sound by simulating an internal combustion engine and then varying the current to the electric motor, so the axle vibrates to create the required sound. Oh, but GPS updates too infrequently, we probably need an optical detector (like in optical mice) to augment it - use the detector for frequent measurements then calibrate it using GPS.
Now it will be possible to have additional 100MB of software in the car.
Crack.
Me.
Up.
I guess that's why the auto engineers make the big bucks designing ass-backward systems, while little ol' me just builds stuff that actually works in my garage, eh mon ami?
You don't need to add an engine noise to the car. Use tires that generate a little more noise, most noise is made by the tires anyway, unless you got the pedal to the metal.
That noise tires make is the sound of them wearing; the noisier the tire, the faster it wears out. Take, for example, Jeeps travelling down the highway with off-road tires equipped - you hear them coming a mile away, but chances are they're going to be buying $200-a-pop tires at least twice as often as someone with the proper equipment would.
Not that I don't like the idea, but I would rather spend a pittance of electrical power on a speaker than have to buy more tires.