Yes Science is not infallible and you might be correct on the CO2 thing. Don't start to bring in sugar here though because that is just something that the LCHF crowd invented (now sugar is not good either, but it's not pure poison either and the insulin hypothesis from the LCHF camp does not hold water).
And here I though that LCHF and Atkins where since long dead. Shouldn't all you hipsters be Paleo by now? And if you didn't get it, no science have never said that sugar is healthy (nor is it bad unless you overeat).
So point to a single lawsuit where this was not the case. The truth is that the farmers are actually demanding that their suppliers sue misusers since otherwise the farmers would not have a level playing field.
at some point they must also abondon the drivers or they will have to keep on maintaining their old OpenGL drivers for ages without "benefits". Anyway, any one sane will move to Vulkan and just use MoltenVK for the iOS and macOS ports. Don't know if there exists anything similar to make Vulkan work on DX12 but I would be surprised if there isn't.
Note that everything on your list is from a time before we had regulations in the western world for how drugs and chemicals would be introduced. Basically everything that was released up till the 1970:ties was without the regulated clinical trails that we have today. That CO2 and CFC:s affect the climate can hardly be seen as a scientific error since that very topic wasn't even a question back when they where introduced. And lead have been known to be poisonous since long before modern science was even invented.
GMO:s on the other hand have been put under scrutiny since day one, each new introduced crop needs to be studied before it's allowed to be used, the very mechanism of how they work in the crop is well known which is something that we do not with the organic cross breeding that have produced every other food that we eat today.
Exactly, and people seam to miss that Monsanto is just one of many companies producing GMO seeds. Here is an interesting podcast from the League of Nerds where they (together with Monsanto) visited a BT cotton farmer and found out that he grew cotton from multiple vendors in order to see which one grew best on his land: https://www.youtube.com/watch?...
And no, Monsanto never sued farmers whose fields where infected. All lawsuits have been with people who "intentionally replanted patented seeds": https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/...
The patent for Roundup expired 18 years ago and since then all major chemical companies have produced their own version. Bayer e.g had this since many years: https://www.amazon.co.uk/Bayer...
Name a single thing that science once though was harmless that didn't turn out to be so and that also have been put through such an extensive number of studies and experiments as GMOs have. GMOs have been a thing for 35 years now, strange that all that harm have not emerged yet.
Yes, that is the single go to database that you use to find articles to cite from if you are writing your own study or meta-study in the biomedical field (of which GMO is a part). Hopefully this will all switch to SciHub in the future since knowledge like this (and which is often paid for by tax money already) should be freely available and not paywalled by journals making millions in profit every year for basically no effort.
Because the currency in the scientific world is the number of citations your paper gets. Since everyone have access to PubMed this is the number one source for finding studies to cite when you are writing your own papers (or meta-studies) so if you publish in say a German speaking journal that for some strange reason does not add your study to PubMed then you can forget about being cited.
That is how real scientists talk. You cannot scientifically show that something is without risk (i.e you cannot show the absence of something, only the existence of something). Perhaps the most important is the last sentence in the article which summarizes the scientists findings:
Insgesamt kommen die Autoren zu dem Schluss, dass die Ablehnung gentechnisch veränderter Pflanzen aus Sicherheitsgründen wissenschaftlich nicht haltbar ist. Sie plädieren dafür, dass diese Ergebnisse besser und häufiger kommuniziert werden müssten.
So to use this article in order to show that there exists concern is dishonest to speak it mildly.
First sorry for spamming you here, either Slashdot needs an edit function or I need patience before I post... In any way, these 1800 "another" studies are not another 1800 ones, they where included in the 6115 that I showed you earlier, regardless of language they are all published on PubMed and even though this is a german article they where not looking at 1800 German studies but 1800 international studies all of which you can find in pubmed with the search I did.
Oh and did you even read your own link? Straight from the summary "aber kaum Hinweise auf besondere Risiken" and "Belege für ernstzunehmende Risiken ließen sich nicht finden, so die Autoren" so this 1800 studies in German that refute your claims. Thanks for that Angel;)
Note that you spoke of millions of studies that showed that GMO:s where dangerous to humans. Now you want to settle that there exists roughly 100k studies of GMO:s in total (of which none shows that they are dangerous to humans) and YOU are wondering how dumb people are in our times?
Seriously, stop listening to the crystal anti-vaxxer chemtrails ufo conspiracy people. GMO:s have been available on US food shelves since 1994 and yet there have not been a single case of a GMO affecting any human in any negative way. Or are all those facts covered up by the freemasons and Illuminati?
Ah I see. Closely related to the Disc-rot that happened with the early pressings where the didn't glue the dual layers together very well so they started to slide apart some years later.
Yeah I get all that, just wondered how people could get away with it or turn it into a habit since Amazon should be able to see who it was the returned the item first and thus know who it was that commit fraud. While a single instance would be hard to prove, any one trying to turn this into a business should be quickly found out. But that of course requires Amazon to give a shit and they perhaps don't (or didn't)
Brick and mortar stores are of course more susceptible to this (but less to with people turning it into a business).
Myself I have never had this happen to me which of course says nothing at all.
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Yes Science is not infallible and you might be correct on the CO2 thing. Don't start to bring in sugar here though because that is just something that the LCHF crowd invented (now sugar is not good either, but it's not pure poison either and the insulin hypothesis from the LCHF camp does not hold water).
Why would they buy new 11 series cards if they are content with their current capacity (since they are not buying new cards)?
Myself I would just tell Westboro Baptist Church that FlightSimLab is a GayLesbian simulator and watch the fallout.
And here I though that LCHF and Atkins where since long dead. Shouldn't all you hipsters be Paleo by now? And if you didn't get it, no science have never said that sugar is healthy (nor is it bad unless you overeat).
So point to a single lawsuit where this was not the case. The truth is that the farmers are actually demanding that their suppliers sue misusers since otherwise the farmers would not have a level playing field.
There is MoltenVK that translates Vulkan to Metal natively so you can code for Vulkan and then just pass it trough Molten on iOS and macOS.
at some point they must also abondon the drivers or they will have to keep on maintaining their old OpenGL drivers for ages without "benefits". Anyway, any one sane will move to Vulkan and just use MoltenVK for the iOS and macOS ports. Don't know if there exists anything similar to make Vulkan work on DX12 but I would be surprised if there isn't.
Of course they will, it's the brave thing to do!
Note that everything on your list is from a time before we had regulations in the western world for how drugs and chemicals would be introduced. Basically everything that was released up till the 1970:ties was without the regulated clinical trails that we have today. That CO2 and CFC:s affect the climate can hardly be seen as a scientific error since that very topic wasn't even a question back when they where introduced. And lead have been known to be poisonous since long before modern science was even invented.
GMO:s on the other hand have been put under scrutiny since day one, each new introduced crop needs to be studied before it's allowed to be used, the very mechanism of how they work in the crop is well known which is something that we do not with the organic cross breeding that have produced every other food that we eat today.
Yes that is right, every one that does not agree with you is a shill.
I remember when 7.14Mhz was insanely fast
Since it's WallMart they probably multiplied the percentage by 100 to get a better value :)
Exactly, and people seam to miss that Monsanto is just one of many companies producing GMO seeds. Here is an interesting podcast from the League of Nerds where they (together with Monsanto) visited a BT cotton farmer and found out that he grew cotton from multiple vendors in order to see which one grew best on his land: https://www.youtube.com/watch?...
Every major chemical company produces glyhosate products, here is one from Bayer: https://www.amazon.co.uk/Bayer...
And no, Monsanto never sued farmers whose fields where infected. All lawsuits have been with people who "intentionally replanted patented seeds": https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/...
The patent for Roundup expired 18 years ago and since then all major chemical companies have produced their own version. Bayer e.g had this since many years: https://www.amazon.co.uk/Bayer...
Name a single thing that science once though was harmless that didn't turn out to be so and that also have been put through such an extensive number of studies and experiments as GMOs have. GMOs have been a thing for 35 years now, strange that all that harm have not emerged yet.
Yes, that is the single go to database that you use to find articles to cite from if you are writing your own study or meta-study in the biomedical field (of which GMO is a part). Hopefully this will all switch to SciHub in the future since knowledge like this (and which is often paid for by tax money already) should be freely available and not paywalled by journals making millions in profit every year for basically no effort.
Because the currency in the scientific world is the number of citations your paper gets. Since everyone have access to PubMed this is the number one source for finding studies to cite when you are writing your own papers (or meta-studies) so if you publish in say a German speaking journal that for some strange reason does not add your study to PubMed then you can forget about being cited.
That is how real scientists talk. You cannot scientifically show that something is without risk (i.e you cannot show the absence of something, only the existence of something). Perhaps the most important is the last sentence in the article which summarizes the scientists findings:
Insgesamt kommen die Autoren zu dem Schluss, dass die Ablehnung gentechnisch veränderter Pflanzen aus Sicherheitsgründen wissenschaftlich nicht haltbar ist. Sie plädieren dafür, dass diese Ergebnisse besser und häufiger kommuniziert werden müssten.
So to use this article in order to show that there exists concern is dishonest to speak it mildly.
First sorry for spamming you here, either Slashdot needs an edit function or I need patience before I post... In any way, these 1800 "another" studies are not another 1800 ones, they where included in the 6115 that I showed you earlier, regardless of language they are all published on PubMed and even though this is a german article they where not looking at 1800 German studies but 1800 international studies all of which you can find in pubmed with the search I did.
Oh and did you even read your own link? Straight from the summary "aber kaum Hinweise auf besondere Risiken" and "Belege für ernstzunehmende Risiken ließen sich nicht finden, so die Autoren" so this 1800 studies in German that refute your claims. Thanks for that Angel ;)
Note that you spoke of millions of studies that showed that GMO:s where dangerous to humans. Now you want to settle that there exists roughly 100k studies of GMO:s in total (of which none shows that they are dangerous to humans) and YOU are wondering how dumb people are in our times?
Seriously, stop listening to the crystal anti-vaxxer chemtrails ufo conspiracy people. GMO:s have been available on US food shelves since 1994 and yet there have not been a single case of a GMO affecting any human in any negative way. Or are all those facts covered up by the freemasons and Illuminati?
Ah I see. Closely related to the Disc-rot that happened with the early pressings where the didn't glue the dual layers together very well so they started to slide apart some years later.
Yeah I get all that, just wondered how people could get away with it or turn it into a habit since Amazon should be able to see who it was the returned the item first and thus know who it was that commit fraud. While a single instance would be hard to prove, any one trying to turn this into a business should be quickly found out. But that of course requires Amazon to give a shit and they perhaps don't (or didn't)
Brick and mortar stores are of course more susceptible to this (but less to with people turning it into a business).
Myself I have never had this happen to me which of course says nothing at all.
How would that even work, Amazon sure as hell can track who made the first return?