I know that you where trying to be sarcastic here but you are actually correct. What people tend to forget here is that the design of systemd is asynchronous, systemctl will exit with a non zero value if there where any problems with the unit file (and with any of the constraints put into the unit file) but once the binary is launched it's a new fork so systemctl exits 0 since the fork+launch was successful. If the binary encounters any problems after launch then of course systemctl cannot exit with an error since systemctl exited long before this happened.
Of course the System V scripts usually did the very same thing so relying on that "service xx start" would return on any error was not supported even back then, it was just that the scripts contained many pre-launch checks that the porters often forgot (at least in the beginning) to add to the unit files so scripts that did use the exit code from the service command happened to work most of the time by pure chance.
So with systemd you actually now instead get a proper and generic way to check that the daemon is running by checking if "systemctl is-active xx" returns 0 or an error. Use that in your scripts instead and they will always work instead of "most of the time".
Yes the link was extremely weak and I'm even unsure if Science ever said that eggs where bad, this all seams to be from Medical Doctors in the 1970:ies that made the logical conclusion that eggs should increase the blood cholesterol levels. It was first when Science was applied that it was found out that this was not the cause.
But none of these little details matter, the AC parent tried to paint a picture that Science can not be trusted due to Science changing opinions every two seconds which I think that you will agree on simply is not true.
Nothing on your list is true in the sense that you are trying to make.
*Eggs are bad for you came from a time before the whole picture was known and scientists knew that high cholesterol was bad for you and that eggs in particular contained high amounts of cholesterol. So not warning about egg consumption then would have been negligent. Later research showed that there is no link between digested cholesterol and blood level cholesterol and thus it turned out that eggs was fine. So no this have not been switching between yes and no every other week (it happened only once) and it was not due to partisan sponsoring but the very fact that the more we know, the more we actually know.
*Vaccines have never been labelled as 100% safe. That there are side effects for every working medical substance have been know for hundreds of years and there is no scientist or doctor that even once would believe that something is 100% safe.
*Fluoridation of drinking water in the therapeutic levels that is done to increase dental health have never been proven to be harmful. The case where it was proven to be harmful was from a place in China where the water had been contaminated with high levels of fluoride. As always the dose makes the poison and there is a big whooping difference between contamination and a therapeutic dose.
Meanwhile any sane person would understand that the keys are never used directly by any device, instead a hash of the key is which means that every single one of your devices will always use a full 256-bit PSK regardless of if your passphrase is one character or 63 as mine is.
I use the full 63 key length in WPA2 with random characters. It's a royal pain when you buy new mobiles or other appliances that needs internet connectivity but that's the price you have to pay.
Well technically it's still a latency hog since all that resources have to be fetched in order to get that 304. With todays coding standard where every single JS is imported directly from a third party source and not hosted locally the requests also cannot be pipelined.
Why is even active hours a thing for a server version when that should be 24x7 by default? If I want to reboot my servers I will reboot them just fine when I feel like it. Thank $DEITY that we don't use Windows for anything where I work.
UAC is not basically Sudo, It's SUID with an additional Yes/No box for "added security". Don't know if I would count 10 years as "ages" either, especially not if you consider that Sudo have been around for 38 years now.
Why people insist on using newer Windows for server tasks however is puzzling. I recently installed a Windows Server 2017 in VirtualBox to do some debugging on a clients behalf and out of nowhere in the middle of me work the screen turned blue with the "applying updates 1 of XX" message. I guess that there does exist some setting somewhere to disable this insanity, but having automatic reboot at random time as the default setting in a _server_ version?!
The court did not say that it would have been OK if a few seeds from a passing truck had contaminated his field, that remark was simply to state that this was not the case (since that is what Schmeiser claimed had happened).
Yes but that is also fucked up by the anti-GMO people. Over here in Europe every approved food additive gets assigned a E-number with the intent that people that are allergic to say "Potassium ferrocyanide" can much easily look for E536 in the ToC which is handy if #1 the ToC is small and #2 considering all the possible different ways people can spell long chemical names.
However the very same people that are very anti GMO is also very anti additives in food and in Europe they have in particular connected this with the E-numbering so some manufacturers have started to label their products as "E-number free" which in most cases just means that they have reverted back to write "potassium ferrocyanide" on their ToC and thus life for allergic people have taken a turn for the worse.
Mutations is just editing on a very large scale, which is the main issue here. Aka with mutation you get both the desirable traits and a bazillion others while with targeted editing you get just the desirable traits and nothing more.
just wanted to make a small remark to your #2 here, he was interrogated for the Denmark issue almost a whole year after he landed in Sweden. It was after he was put to trail for hacking the Swedish Tax Authority that the Danish understood that the hacking done in their country was similar and thus started to investigate his involvement which ultimately led to them asking for him to be extradited. The only reason he was deported from Kambodia was for him skipping prison in Sweden (over here you won't go to prison directly after your trail, instead you get a letter in your mail some months later with instructions to show up at prison XX. And when this happened Swartholm fled to Kambodia).
#1 unfortunately politicians are protected from jail for things that they do in their line of work here in Sweden so that was never any option. However not being in power is something that any politician want to avoid and the party in power that time lost the following election partly due to this affair.
#2 You got this backwards. Svartholm was wanted to Sweden from skipping his prison time. He was extradited from Kambodia 2012 and then served his prison time in Sweden until he was released in May 2013 after 9 months in jail (2/3 of the time which is the usual amount for "good behaviour"). In June 2013 he was requested to be extradited to Denmark where he was later sentenced to 3 and a half years of prison.
The "interrogated for weeks without a lawyer for the alleged crimes in Denmarm" was in reality him spending time in jail with restrictions (which means that outside contact is limited but not 100% prohibited) pending the investigation on his alleged hacking of the Swedish Tax Authority (so nothing to do with Denmark). While jail with restrictions is a questionable thing to do with people it had nothing to do with Denmark.
#3 which would violate the UK High Court just as much, the UK would extradite Assange to Sweden under the explicit conditions that he would be sent there only to be tried for the particular case that Sweden requested him to be extradited for. If Sweden would have sent him to Australia or Ecuador they would violate the UK High Court and there would be a huge political issue between the UK and Sweden that would put the whole extradition rules in jeopardy and no politician in Sweden would want nor survive that politically.
#4 Why would the US care if Assange was a well known public figure? However they would get their hands on him he would still be well known so the shit would hit the fan equally regardless of which dirty tactic the CIA would use here.
If so they could just as easily have filed a formal extradition request to Sweden when he was here, no need to create this whole rape conspiracy. In fact I don't even understand what the rape part would solve for the CIA, there is no law here in Sweden that says that people accused of rape can be more easily be departed to the US (in fact it might be the opposite since if he was convicted of the rape then he would have to spend jail time here first before even being contemplated for extradition).
Also if that where the intent then why release him and let him go to the UK (Assange got clearance from the original prosecutor to go to the UK). And they could also just have snatched him off the streets in the middle of the night like they did with several of the "illegal combatants" that they snatched from Germany, Italy and Spain without these countries knowledge.
That the US is not the good guy in this exchange is something that I can agree on.
1. The Egypt rendition in 2001 was done in secret and when it was exposed it was a major political inferno here in Sweden and I have a hard time believing that any politician would want to try that route again (none of the people involved hold any political power today), it was also alleged that the CIA lied to the Swedish Foreign Minister that they had secret evidence that the two Egyptians was planning a terrorist attack in Sweden (so now Swedish politicians have learned not to trust the CIA anymore as well). But yes I agree that this case is troublesome.
2. Svartholm Warg was put on the international wanted list due to him not showing up when he was supposed to go to prison. Later he was also suspected of hacking Brittish company Logica and once he was deported to Sweden he was also sought after by Denmark for hacking and since Sweden and Denmark have a since long extradition agreement that includes citizens this was all done according to the law.
3. If Sweden would have deported Assange to the US we would not only break the UN conventions but also be in direct violation with the UK High Court, which is something that would have far more serious implications politically for Sweden than breaking the UN thing (which happened with the Egyptians).
4. This whole scheme is far to outlandish to be a CIA operation to get their hands on Assange, if they would want him they would have either swooped him off the streets at night like they did with some of the current Guantanamo residends that they snatched from Germany, Italy and Spain or they would simple have filed an official extradition request to Sweden when he was here. The whole question is moot since the rape allegations solves nothing for the CIA.
But I don't really get where you are going with this. Sweden have exact the same rules so why would the US want to go via Sweden to get Assange and not just go via UK. As it now stands we are just arguing semantics on that no of the countries could extradite him which makes us both agree with each other.
Kind of, it says that they don't extradite people for crimes where the outcome can be the death penalty. So they extradite to the US just fine if the person does not risk capital punishment.
I do not 100% how it works in the UK but that is how it works here in Sweden. A Swedish citizen cannot be extradited to a non Nordic or non EU country while a non citizen (which is why Assange could claim that he could be extradited from Sweden to the US) can.
Worst of all is that if he had just meet with the prosecutors when they asked to see him the second time (i.e when the supreme prosecutor thought that the normal prosecutor dropped the charges in error and decided to reopen the case) instead of starting the whole extradition circus in the UK then the matter would probably been thrown away there and then. But at that time Assanges paranoia (which I can understand) took over and this whole circus started,
I don't think that this is a misinformation campaign and also not a US conspiracy to get their hands on him because if the CIA really wanted him they could do so far easier than starting a strange circus like this (e.g not dropping the charges half-way trough your conspiracy and let him leave the country).
And when Assange started the circus the supreme prosecutor got pissed and thus refused to comply with his demands (i.e letting the UK police question him), perhaps his legal team knew that this move would make the Swedish prosecutor pissed or it was just a lucky strike. In the end it made the Swedish prosecutors looking like they where not cooperative and added to the conspiracy theories out there.
Hopefully he will be handed over to the UK and they will charge him with his bail skipping and that will be the end of it, of course the conspiracy people will then claim that the US simply have lost interest.
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I know that you where trying to be sarcastic here but you are actually correct. What people tend to forget here is that the design of systemd is asynchronous, systemctl will exit with a non zero value if there where any problems with the unit file (and with any of the constraints put into the unit file) but once the binary is launched it's a new fork so systemctl exits 0 since the fork+launch was successful. If the binary encounters any problems after launch then of course systemctl cannot exit with an error since systemctl exited long before this happened.
Of course the System V scripts usually did the very same thing so relying on that "service xx start" would return on any error was not supported even back then, it was just that the scripts contained many pre-launch checks that the porters often forgot (at least in the beginning) to add to the unit files so scripts that did use the exit code from the service command happened to work most of the time by pure chance.
So with systemd you actually now instead get a proper and generic way to check that the daemon is running by checking if "systemctl is-active xx" returns 0 or an error. Use that in your scripts instead and they will always work instead of "most of the time".
Until you realise that a large part of the "issues" are feature requests and questions. In GitHub everything is an issue.
Yes the link was extremely weak and I'm even unsure if Science ever said that eggs where bad, this all seams to be from Medical Doctors in the 1970:ies that made the logical conclusion that eggs should increase the blood cholesterol levels. It was first when Science was applied that it was found out that this was not the cause.
But none of these little details matter, the AC parent tried to paint a picture that Science can not be trusted due to Science changing opinions every two seconds which I think that you will agree on simply is not true.
Nothing on your list is true in the sense that you are trying to make.
*Eggs are bad for you came from a time before the whole picture was known and scientists knew that high cholesterol was bad for you and that eggs in particular contained high amounts of cholesterol. So not warning about egg consumption then would have been negligent. Later research showed that there is no link between digested cholesterol and blood level cholesterol and thus it turned out that eggs was fine. So no this have not been switching between yes and no every other week (it happened only once) and it was not due to partisan sponsoring but the very fact that the more we know, the more we actually know.
*Vaccines have never been labelled as 100% safe. That there are side effects for every working medical substance have been know for hundreds of years and there is no scientist or doctor that even once would believe that something is 100% safe.
*Fluoridation of drinking water in the therapeutic levels that is done to increase dental health have never been proven to be harmful. The case where it was proven to be harmful was from a place in China where the water had been contaminated with high levels of fluoride. As always the dose makes the poison and there is a big whooping difference between contamination and a therapeutic dose.
Meanwhile any sane person would understand that the keys are never used directly by any device, instead a hash of the key is which means that every single one of your devices will always use a full 256-bit PSK regardless of if your passphrase is one character or 63 as mine is.
I use the full 63 key length in WPA2 with random characters. It's a royal pain when you buy new mobiles or other appliances that needs internet connectivity but that's the price you have to pay.
I've seen some sites that put a random number in a ?r=23423423423 for each request in order to bypass any cache so that they can do click counting.
Well technically it's still a latency hog since all that resources have to be fetched in order to get that 304. With todays coding standard where every single JS is imported directly from a third party source and not hosted locally the requests also cannot be pipelined.
Why is even active hours a thing for a server version when that should be 24x7 by default? If I want to reboot my servers I will reboot them just fine when I feel like it. Thank $DEITY that we don't use Windows for anything where I work.
UAC is not basically Sudo, It's SUID with an additional Yes/No box for "added security". Don't know if I would count 10 years as "ages" either, especially not if you consider that Sudo have been around for 38 years now.
Why people insist on using newer Windows for server tasks however is puzzling. I recently installed a Windows Server 2017 in VirtualBox to do some debugging on a clients behalf and out of nowhere in the middle of me work the screen turned blue with the "applying updates 1 of XX" message. I guess that there does exist some setting somewhere to disable this insanity, but having automatic reboot at random time as the default setting in a _server_ version?!
The court did not say that it would have been OK if a few seeds from a passing truck had contaminated his field, that remark was simply to state that this was not the case (since that is what Schmeiser claimed had happened).
He testified that he then harvested that crop, saved it separately from his other harvest, and intentionally planted it in 1998
This is a little different from just being cross-pollinated.
Yes but that is also fucked up by the anti-GMO people. Over here in Europe every approved food additive gets assigned a E-number with the intent that people that are allergic to say "Potassium ferrocyanide" can much easily look for E536 in the ToC which is handy if #1 the ToC is small and #2 considering all the possible different ways people can spell long chemical names.
However the very same people that are very anti GMO is also very anti additives in food and in Europe they have in particular connected this with the E-numbering so some manufacturers have started to label their products as "E-number free" which in most cases just means that they have reverted back to write "potassium ferrocyanide" on their ToC and thus life for allergic people have taken a turn for the worse.
Mutations is just editing on a very large scale, which is the main issue here. Aka with mutation you get both the desirable traits and a bazillion others while with targeted editing you get just the desirable traits and nothing more.
just wanted to make a small remark to your #2 here, he was interrogated for the Denmark issue almost a whole year after he landed in Sweden. It was after he was put to trail for hacking the Swedish Tax Authority that the Danish understood that the hacking done in their country was similar and thus started to investigate his involvement which ultimately led to them asking for him to be extradited. The only reason he was deported from Kambodia was for him skipping prison in Sweden (over here you won't go to prison directly after your trail, instead you get a letter in your mail some months later with instructions to show up at prison XX. And when this happened Swartholm fled to Kambodia).
#1 unfortunately politicians are protected from jail for things that they do in their line of work here in Sweden so that was never any option. However not being in power is something that any politician want to avoid and the party in power that time lost the following election partly due to this affair.
#2 You got this backwards. Svartholm was wanted to Sweden from skipping his prison time. He was extradited from Kambodia 2012 and then served his prison time in Sweden until he was released in May 2013 after 9 months in jail (2/3 of the time which is the usual amount for "good behaviour"). In June 2013 he was requested to be extradited to Denmark where he was later sentenced to 3 and a half years of prison.
The "interrogated for weeks without a lawyer for the alleged crimes in Denmarm" was in reality him spending time in jail with restrictions (which means that outside contact is limited but not 100% prohibited) pending the investigation on his alleged hacking of the Swedish Tax Authority (so nothing to do with Denmark). While jail with restrictions is a questionable thing to do with people it had nothing to do with Denmark.
#3 which would violate the UK High Court just as much, the UK would extradite Assange to Sweden under the explicit conditions that he would be sent there only to be tried for the particular case that Sweden requested him to be extradited for. If Sweden would have sent him to Australia or Ecuador they would violate the UK High Court and there would be a huge political issue between the UK and Sweden that would put the whole extradition rules in jeopardy and no politician in Sweden would want nor survive that politically.
#4 Why would the US care if Assange was a well known public figure? However they would get their hands on him he would still be well known so the shit would hit the fan equally regardless of which dirty tactic the CIA would use here.
If so they could just as easily have filed a formal extradition request to Sweden when he was here, no need to create this whole rape conspiracy. In fact I don't even understand what the rape part would solve for the CIA, there is no law here in Sweden that says that people accused of rape can be more easily be departed to the US (in fact it might be the opposite since if he was convicted of the rape then he would have to spend jail time here first before even being contemplated for extradition).
Also if that where the intent then why release him and let him go to the UK (Assange got clearance from the original prosecutor to go to the UK). And they could also just have snatched him off the streets in the middle of the night like they did with several of the "illegal combatants" that they snatched from Germany, Italy and Spain without these countries knowledge.
That the US is not the good guy in this exchange is something that I can agree on.
1. The Egypt rendition in 2001 was done in secret and when it was exposed it was a major political inferno here in Sweden and I have a hard time believing that any politician would want to try that route again (none of the people involved hold any political power today), it was also alleged that the CIA lied to the Swedish Foreign Minister that they had secret evidence that the two Egyptians was planning a terrorist attack in Sweden (so now Swedish politicians have learned not to trust the CIA anymore as well). But yes I agree that this case is troublesome.
2. Svartholm Warg was put on the international wanted list due to him not showing up when he was supposed to go to prison. Later he was also suspected of hacking Brittish company Logica and once he was deported to Sweden he was also sought after by Denmark for hacking and since Sweden and Denmark have a since long extradition agreement that includes citizens this was all done according to the law.
3. If Sweden would have deported Assange to the US we would not only break the UN conventions but also be in direct violation with the UK High Court, which is something that would have far more serious implications politically for Sweden than breaking the UN thing (which happened with the Egyptians).
4. This whole scheme is far to outlandish to be a CIA operation to get their hands on Assange, if they would want him they would have either swooped him off the streets at night like they did with some of the current Guantanamo residends that they snatched from Germany, Italy and Spain or they would simple have filed an official extradition request to Sweden when he was here. The whole question is moot since the rape allegations solves nothing for the CIA.
But I don't really get where you are going with this. Sweden have exact the same rules so why would the US want to go via Sweden to get Assange and not just go via UK. As it now stands we are just arguing semantics on that no of the countries could extradite him which makes us both agree with each other.
Kind of, it says that they don't extradite people for crimes where the outcome can be the death penalty. So they extradite to the US just fine if the person does not risk capital punishment.
I do not 100% how it works in the UK but that is how it works here in Sweden. A Swedish citizen cannot be extradited to a non Nordic or non EU country while a non citizen (which is why Assange could claim that he could be extradited from Sweden to the US) can.
Worst of all is that if he had just meet with the prosecutors when they asked to see him the second time (i.e when the supreme prosecutor thought that the normal prosecutor dropped the charges in error and decided to reopen the case) instead of starting the whole extradition circus in the UK then the matter would probably been thrown away there and then. But at that time Assanges paranoia (which I can understand) took over and this whole circus started,
I don't think that this is a misinformation campaign and also not a US conspiracy to get their hands on him because if the CIA really wanted him they could do so far easier than starting a strange circus like this (e.g not dropping the charges half-way trough your conspiracy and let him leave the country).
And when Assange started the circus the supreme prosecutor got pissed and thus refused to comply with his demands (i.e letting the UK police question him), perhaps his legal team knew that this move would make the Swedish prosecutor pissed or it was just a lucky strike. In the end it made the Swedish prosecutors looking like they where not cooperative and added to the conspiracy theories out there.
Hopefully he will be handed over to the UK and they will charge him with his bail skipping and that will be the end of it, of course the conspiracy people will then claim that the US simply have lost interest.
But she is a UK citizen, Assange is not so he is not covered by the laws that protect UK citizens from being extradited.
No we don't. Flee and you are safe.
You honestly believe that we Europeans would have difficulty distinguishing between Syrians, Nigerians and Somalians?