Beyond that, why announce to the world that your sensitive systems are or are not running any given OS or group of OSen?
Perhaps to reassure the public if there is public concern. Perhaps to convince the public that you are taking computer security seriously. Perhaps to send a message to Microsoft that Microsoft's private decision not to fulfill certain requests made by Germany was not a wise one. Who knows?
Pluggable modules are the way to go, kinda like Nintendo cartriges. Just have some slots on the front of the computer with room for the cartriges. To install, push cartrige into free slot. Done. Memory upgrade? Pop in a module. Processor upgrade? Pop in a module. Want to add battery backup? Pop in a module. Major overhaul? Just take the thing to your local computer store and have them handle it.
Could someone out there with a lot of bandwidth write a script that would crawl/. articles for links and wget them to a fast mirror? Maybe even/. itself could do this?
Yeah, but is the typical slashdot reader in any way representative of the general population of consumers? I think not.
"Who wants to fool around with 10 different systems when you can control everything from one device?"
Someone who doesn't want to learn how to use a new device. Why don't we combine cell-phones with TV remotes (the phones already have all of the necessary hardware) or TV remotes with Palm Pilots? (note: I know that both of these have already been done, but they're not market realities and thus don't matter) Because for Joe Sixpack, learning a new device is too much hassle.
Yeah. I asked Mr. Torvalds the same thing, he said no go for about six months (I was trying to get power management working on one of the new Crusoe Sonys).
The only demographic which has a use for Linux PPC on Mac is owners of "Doorstop class" hardware who want to run El Cheapo headless servers for HTTP, DNS, routing, et al.
Older Macs have the great advantage of being very stable (due to tightly controlled hardware) and having built in SCSI.
Slightly offtopic, but... the art department at a company my friend works for recently bought a dual-proc G4. No, wait, stop laughing, I haven't reached the punchline yet. The joke is that it's running... wait for it... MacOS 9! Yep, all the second CPU s doing is keeping the first warm and cozy.:-) The machine cost $4k, so I hope they at least buy OS X when it is released so that the nice hardware won't go to waste. MacOS X will make Linux PPC on Macs obselete, by the way. It's BSD Unix with MacOS's multimedia capabilities, which even I would be willing to pay for.
While your previous comment was rather reasonable, this one shows clear, blinding idiocy. The graphics department is most likely running PhotoShop and/or Premiere, and PhotoShop and Premiere are the two biggest reasons for having an MP machine. And yes, they both use _both_ processors.
This is where OS X is suposed to come in. OS X is suposed to be completely free of the ROMs, but untill Apple can get it working on the hardware without the need for the ROMs OS 9 will still be around. When they finally do it, the Mac that only runs OS X (XI, XII etc) will forever be unlike the Mac that we all grew to love/hate/ignore.
Incorrect. OS versions 8.1 and onward no longer require the ROM. 8.1 booted on an IBM CHRP machine (though there were reportedly problems with the floppy drive). One of the factors contributing to the current bloat of the OS is that a copy of the entire thing (older Mac ROMs contained the Toolbox which included basic drivers and graphics code) is stored on disk. OSX will move away from all dependencies on the ROM code in any form, and I do agree that this is a good thing.
I was one of these kids. Fast forwarded through school, did one of the most demanding academic programs in the country, and hit college early. And guess what? It's really not worth much. Despite my being a very social person, I just don't have much of a normal social group. I know a fair number of people who did the same thing, some at a much younger age than I did. Most of them wish they had just stayed in the normal school system and done normal school things so that they'd have a normal same-age peer group.
So help this kid. Obviously he has the capability to learn so help him use his talents. One of the best things you can do is give him the opportunity interact with people more at his own level in his areas of interest (i.e. older people in industry, etc.). But don't encourage him to skip through school, and see if you can get him interested in something beyond computers and electronics.
My last recommendation for this kid is to introduce him to some equally brilliant but much older people (grown up child prodigies). They will understand him to a degree that few other people will be able to match.
Racist government (all Malay, no Chinese or Indians despite the fact that they make up a good portion of the population).
Inavailability of basic educational aids like public libraries.
Racist educational standards (see item 1).
Public health. While generally not too bad, open drains and such create health hazards.
Once these sorts of problems are on their way to being fixed, then start worrying about internet connectivitiy. Bringing in more tech companies (as they are currently trying to do) may very well take care of the internet problem by itself.
The project was known as ProjectX, and I think the name for the viewer (or some part of the scheme) was HotSauce. Google should have a link.
There are a couple of 3D interface programs for Windows, thoughI haven't personally had a chance to play with any of them and can't comment on their quality/usefulness.
Funny that the first reaction is to ask what was wrong with the tests. Are some of you so wrapped up in Linux superiority crap that you can't see how another OS might possible, just possibly outperform it in some areas? z
People comparing OS X to Linux, just chill. OS X isn't aiming at the same people that Linux is. Linux is mostly for hackerish type people, or at least people who know the arcane arts of computing. OS X is a consumer OS. Just remember that there's always Darwin. Personally, I don't think that Linux as it is currently administrated will ever become competitive in a consumer setting, nor will OSX really compete with Linux for users. Different markets.
OSX is cool though... Yes, there are a lot of things wrong with OS X. The UI is slow, the MacOS compatibility layer takes forever and a day to start, hardware support isn't too good, etc. But there are a lot of good things like the kickass interface, well-built underlying OS (stability and all that), and large existing base of compatible (or mostly compatible) software (Apache, emacs, MS Office, 'most everything from UNIX and MacOS).
Keep in mind, however, that this is still a pre-release product. Most of the negative points are the types of things that get fixed just before release (fine-tuning).
I've used the beta, and it's actually quite impressive. The interface has a very slick feel, things that don't need to be opaque aren't, it's quite usable even at very high resolutions (color widgets and zooming dock help, among others), and it integrates existing MacOS software quite well.
They'll appeal and appeal again until such time as they can no longer appeal the verdict. Once they can't do that, they'll argue over the details of the split. Then they'll appeal some technicality arguing that it was "unfair" or "excessive," and try to repeat the process over again. Meanwhile they're not changing their behavior nor will they. They can take advantage of the situation to destroy as much potential competition as possible such that the new companies will be able to dominate their respective markets unchallenged (witness recent purchase of a stake in Corel). Even if they get broken up they will probably ultimately do better than if they'd stayed the same company. Not that it matters, as ten or twenty years down the road some of the companies will get permission to merge again, just like the baby Bells have been doing as of late.
God, Counter-Strike... I got a friend of mine playing, he was addicted inside an hour. Me, I'm
lucky not to have a machine to run it at home:^)
To keep this on topic, caffiene and Counter-Strike has been working well. Not well enough, mind you (I still can barely keep a ratio>1:1), but it helps.
For people suffering from undiagnosed ADD and that sort of thing, caffiene/coke/meth will "alleviate" the symptoms. Kinda. The problem is that the benefits are very short-term and the side-effects are excessive (it's like using a sledge hammer to drive in a nail). z
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So how viable is doing that sort of thing anyway? I know companies like Sonic Solutions do some pretty significant add-ons, and I know that some of the old Amiga's allowed adding of PPC processors as a coprocessor as well as (IIRC) some PCI-based processor upgrades for the Mac (and PC emulation boards). It would be kinda cool to have a use for those old Voodoo cards... z
Ok, I'm missing something here: What's the big deal? I mean, Linux is cool and all but why bother if the thing already ships with a UNIXy OS already designed to run on that machine? z
Visualize Al Gore with CAT-5 coming out of his nose, inventing the internet.
Congratulations, your mind has been hacked! That should stick in your memory for a while, and if it doesn't maybe you should lend me some money:^)
I haven't figured out how to get root yet, but you'll know I have when you find yourself with uncontrollable urges to download tasteless porn at 3:00 AM and write programs utilising the OpenGL teapot routine.
Slashdot Mirror
I copied a clean source for the front page and reposted it to keep the front page clean as much as I could.
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Beyond that, why announce to the world that your sensitive systems are or are not running any given OS or group of OSen?
Perhaps to reassure the public if there is public concern. Perhaps to convince the public that you are taking computer security seriously. Perhaps to send a message to Microsoft that Microsoft's private decision not to fulfill certain requests made by Germany was not a wise one. Who knows?
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That has to be the most selfish thought I've heard in a long time...
Market forces, man, market forces.
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Pluggable modules are the way to go, kinda like Nintendo cartriges. Just have some slots on the front of the computer with room for the cartriges. To install, push cartrige into free slot. Done. Memory upgrade? Pop in a module. Processor upgrade? Pop in a module. Want to add battery backup? Pop in a module. Major overhaul? Just take the thing to your local computer store and have them handle it.
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Could someone out there with a lot of bandwidth write a script that would crawl /. articles for links and wget them to a fast mirror? Maybe even /. itself could do this?
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"...the typical slashdot reader..."
Yeah, but is the typical slashdot reader in any way representative of the general population of consumers? I think not.
"Who wants to fool around with 10 different systems when you can control everything from one device?"
Someone who doesn't want to learn how to use a new device. Why don't we combine cell-phones with TV remotes (the phones already have all of the necessary hardware) or TV remotes with Palm Pilots? (note: I know that both of these have already been done, but they're not market realities and thus don't matter) Because for Joe Sixpack, learning a new device is too much hassle.
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Anyone know about ACPI?
Yeah. I asked Mr. Torvalds the same thing, he said no go for about six months (I was trying to get power management working on one of the new Crusoe Sonys).
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The whole series (overgrown trilogy) is quite good. I can't wait...
The only demographic which has a use for Linux PPC on Mac is owners of "Doorstop class" hardware who want to run El Cheapo headless servers for HTTP, DNS, routing, et al.
:-) The machine cost $4k, so I hope they at least buy OS X when it is released so that the nice hardware won't go to waste. MacOS X will make Linux PPC on Macs obselete, by the way. It's BSD Unix with MacOS's multimedia capabilities, which even I would be willing to pay for.
Older Macs have the great advantage of being very stable (due to tightly controlled hardware) and having built in SCSI. Slightly offtopic, but... the art department at a company my friend works for recently bought a dual-proc G4. No, wait, stop laughing, I haven't reached the punchline yet. The joke is that it's running... wait for it... MacOS 9! Yep, all the second CPU s doing is keeping the first warm and cozy.
While your previous comment was rather reasonable, this one shows clear, blinding idiocy. The graphics department is most likely running PhotoShop and/or Premiere, and PhotoShop and Premiere are the two biggest reasons for having an MP machine. And yes, they both use _both_ processors.
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This is where OS X is suposed to come in. OS X is suposed to be completely free of the ROMs, but untill Apple can get it working on the hardware without the need for the ROMs OS 9 will still be around. When they finally do it, the Mac that only runs OS X (XI, XII etc) will forever be unlike the Mac that we all grew to love/hate/ignore.
Incorrect. OS versions 8.1 and onward no longer require the ROM. 8.1 booted on an IBM CHRP machine (though there were reportedly problems with the floppy drive). One of the factors contributing to the current bloat of the OS is that a copy of the entire thing (older Mac ROMs contained the Toolbox which included basic drivers and graphics code) is stored on disk. OSX will move away from all dependencies on the ROM code in any form, and I do agree that this is a good thing.
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I was one of these kids. Fast forwarded through school, did one of the most demanding academic programs in the country, and hit college early. And guess what? It's really not worth much. Despite my being a very social person, I just don't have much of a normal social group. I know a fair number of people who did the same thing, some at a much younger age than I did. Most of them wish they had just stayed in the normal school system and done normal school things so that they'd have a normal same-age peer group.
So help this kid. Obviously he has the capability to learn so help him use his talents. One of the best things you can do is give him the opportunity interact with people more at his own level in his areas of interest (i.e. older people in industry, etc.). But don't encourage him to skip through school, and see if you can get him interested in something beyond computers and electronics.
My last recommendation for this kid is to introduce him to some equally brilliant but much older people (grown up child prodigies). They will understand him to a degree that few other people will be able to match.
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- Racist government (all Malay, no Chinese or Indians despite the fact that they make up a good portion of the population).
- Inavailability of basic educational aids like public libraries.
- Racist educational standards (see item 1).
- Public health. While generally not too bad, open drains and such create health hazards.
Once these sorts of problems are on their way to being fixed, then start worrying about internet connectivitiy. Bringing in more tech companies (as they are currently trying to do) may very well take care of the internet problem by itself.z
Sad but true... IE really has become the better browser. Mozilla is too little, too late.
The project was known as ProjectX, and I think the name for the viewer (or some part of the scheme) was HotSauce. Google should have a link.
There are a couple of 3D interface programs for Windows, thoughI haven't personally had a chance to play with any of them and can't comment on their quality/usefulness.
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Funny that the first reaction is to ask what was wrong with the tests. Are some of you so wrapped up in Linux superiority crap that you can't see how another OS might possible, just possibly outperform it in some areas? z
People comparing OS X to Linux, just chill. OS X isn't aiming at the same people that Linux is. Linux is mostly for hackerish type people, or at least people who know the arcane arts of computing. OS X is a consumer OS. Just remember that there's always Darwin. Personally, I don't think that Linux as it is currently administrated will ever become competitive in a consumer setting, nor will OSX really compete with Linux for users. Different markets.
OSX is cool though... Yes, there are a lot of things wrong with OS X. The UI is slow, the MacOS compatibility layer takes forever and a day to start, hardware support isn't too good, etc. But there are a lot of good things like the kickass interface, well-built underlying OS (stability and all that), and large existing base of compatible (or mostly compatible) software (Apache, emacs, MS Office, 'most everything from UNIX and MacOS).
Keep in mind, however, that this is still a pre-release product. Most of the negative points are the types of things that get fixed just before release (fine-tuning).
I've used the beta, and it's actually quite impressive. The interface has a very slick feel, things that don't need to be opaque aren't, it's quite usable even at very high resolutions (color widgets and zooming dock help, among others), and it integrates existing MacOS software quite well.
Anyway...
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They'll appeal and appeal again until such time as they can no longer appeal the verdict. Once they can't do that, they'll argue over the details of the split. Then they'll appeal some technicality arguing that it was "unfair" or "excessive," and try to repeat the process over again. Meanwhile they're not changing their behavior nor will they. They can take advantage of the situation to destroy as much potential competition as possible such that the new companies will be able to dominate their respective markets unchallenged (witness recent purchase of a stake in Corel). Even if they get broken up they will probably ultimately do better than if they'd stayed the same company. Not that it matters, as ten or twenty years down the road some of the companies will get permission to merge again, just like the baby Bells have been doing as of late.
It's pointless, really.
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God, Counter-Strike... I got a friend of mine playing, he was addicted inside an hour. Me, I'm lucky not to have a machine to run it at home :^)
To keep this on topic, caffiene and Counter-Strike has been working well. Not well enough, mind you (I still can barely keep a ratio>1:1), but it helps.
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For people suffering from undiagnosed ADD and that sort of thing, caffiene/coke/meth will "alleviate" the symptoms. Kinda. The problem is that the benefits are very short-term and the side-effects are excessive (it's like using a sledge hammer to drive in a nail). z
So how viable is doing that sort of thing anyway? I know companies like Sonic Solutions do some pretty significant add-ons, and I know that some of the old Amiga's allowed adding of PPC processors as a coprocessor as well as (IIRC) some PCI-based processor upgrades for the Mac (and PC emulation boards). It would be kinda cool to have a use for those old Voodoo cards... z
Go to Google and poke around a little bit. They have a .reg file that will change the default search bar to Google. Much better IMHO. z
Ok, I'm missing something here: What's the big deal? I mean, Linux is cool and all but why bother if the thing already ships with a UNIXy OS already designed to run on that machine? z
Visualize Al Gore with CAT-5 coming out of his nose, inventing the internet.
:^)
Congratulations, your mind has been hacked! That should stick in your memory for a while, and if it doesn't maybe you should lend me some money
I haven't figured out how to get root yet, but you'll know I have when you find yourself with uncontrollable urges to download tasteless porn at 3:00 AM and write programs utilising the OpenGL teapot routine.
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Well... Might as try hacking my TI-36. z
Quad G4.
If you've got Quad G4's @ 500 mhz and some reasonable cache on them, that makes for one really freakin fast CPU setup.
No more waiting for the Gimp.
Of course all of this is moot if Quake isn't tweaked to take advantage of it...
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