I agree that precashing everything sounds a bit wastful. But what if the user could select an item in the menu that causes the browser to precashe all pages on the current server (wget -r) and keep it available when offline?
That idea with ICQ+AOL integration sounds interresting. That would give a supported, reliable 'standard' client. Another nice feature would be text to speech support (as in Konqueror). Then id like a to mozilla to monitor pages and inform me when they have changed.(didnt navigator do that with the bookmarks?)
Codebase size shouldnt be a problem, just make these functions optional plugins that are kept separate from the main program.
(Dont you think that your ICQ contact list would look nice in that sidebar?)
Then there are things that really shouldnt be integrated too tightly. For example: downloads shouldnt abort if mozilla hangs (think 'copy link location' + wget).
As usual im writing this from my sofa using an old laptop as a dumb terminal connected to the computer in another room. Textmode really rocks! Now, if there only were VT102 terminals with Braille output...
Well okay http://www.playboy.com doesnt rock in textmode... In that case this device is interresting.
A few months ago - when I was watching 'Dead Poets Society' (I must have seen it a dozen times by now) while preparing for an exam - I thought: 'Yes, but why study poetry in school? Who really needs it?'. And then i thought: 'Computer engineers!
'What the devil is he talking about?'
A good poet can use his or her knowledge and experience in a language to write expressions that delivers a statement - or a feeling - to the reader. This is usually done in such a way so it is easy to read and conforms to the structure of the verse.
A coder uses his or her knowledge and experience in a computer language to write classes and functions that implements some functionality. This should be done in such a way so it is easy for others to understand what the code does. It should also conform to the structure and coding conventions of the rest of the program.
In both cases we're reaching for the excellence in simplicity and structure.
Ofcause there's a lot of lyrics out there that may be an unsuitable inspiration for software development. I wonder how code based on Techno would look (perhaps I'm just getting old)...
Gottlob Frege said "Every good mathematician is at least half a philosopher, and every good philosopher is at least half a mathematician". Well, in that case, perhaps every good computer engineer is atleast half a poet...
Well, Gabriel Knight III is the most difficult game. But there is one even more taxing puzzle;
You must at one point complete a latin sentence with a final word, and the re-arrange all letters to form a new sentence (again in latin!).
But the story in Gabriel Knight III is the most compelling one i've ever seen. It would make a great film. (No i havn't seen J Jensens catscan)
But we are now only two month away from the next episode in the most hilarious adventure game series ever; Escape from Monkey Island.
As long as Lucasarts keep releasing adevnture games, i dont mind booting up Windows to play.
I liked Grim Fandango... and can you ever imagine a more Nerdish hero than Guybrush.
The problem with adventure games is once you solve them, there is noo need to play them again (unless you wait a couple of years). So you get more for your mon(k)ey if you buy a action or strategy game.
Perhaps thats one important factor to the Grim Future for adventure games.
Main weaknesses in misc browsers:
IE5 (under Wine): You can only view the MS site.
Netscape: To darn unstable. (stay away of shift+ins)
Konqueror: No Javascript or has it(?)
Mozilla: Helperapps doesnt work (otherwise id use it)
Opera: Too... well... unfinished
Lynx, Emacs: get real!
All features done? Including helper apps?
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According to the release notes, it should not be possible to associate filetypes with helper apps.
Has ANYONE managed to do this. I ran to MP3.COM and tried to listen to a song (lo fi), received
a dialog that gave the the option to associate an applicating (Pick App), but when i tried to it said that the feature wasnt implemented yet.
Ok, so i headed over to the preferences dialog and
selected Navicagor->Helper applications. Then things got ugly.
>Doesn't take much to get you Microsoft >Astroturfers shitting in your pants, does >it? Is this *really* that hard for morons >like you to comprend?
Why does my desire to prevent unneccesary branches make me a whatever? I think that the industry embracing Linux is great.
>A lot of the stuff that'll be going into >Linux designed for embedded purposes >wouldn't be really useful for the general >standard-purpose Linux kernel and most >likely wouldn't be included in a standard >Linux dists meant to run on PC's. Different >processors, diffrent kernel code.
I agree that the required features will be somewhat different, but if 'embedded'-Linux will run on SOC that are architecturally simmilar to PC:s, should SOME features be candidates for incorporation in the 'vanilla' kernel. Cheers!
However, just that the (interrupt) latency is low isnt enough. I once wanted to implement a simple serial protocol under Linux. The problem was that i wanted to create a 5 ms delay (before switching of the carrier) without freezing the other tasks. I wanted to the the timer (real time timer) to wake up my process (via SIGALRM). Thats when i found out that the system worked with a resolution of 10 ms ("jiffies?").
I wouldnt mind missing a deadline once in a while, but i wanted it to work in atleast 95% of the time...
The bit about 'making the OS freely available' sounds like they arn't on the same wavelength as the community. Should we be concerned that the 'consortiums' will cause more fragmentation of Linux? There are some versions of Linux that 'exists' as patches, and add functionality that for some reason arn't included in the 'standard' kernel. It sounds like this OS will be a complete fork, though. Is there a risk that the modifications that are made will make it difficult to move useful functionality from one kernel to another? Will the concortium understand the importance of preventing this? If the developement process of this new OS is visible to the community, we will ofcause be able to influence them before things go wrong. Lets hope that the consortium isnt to secretive.
Well, im not sure EXACTLY what 'trolling' is. It SOUNDS like a comment thats just being negative but doesnt contain much substance, but IMHO the article did have a few points. I can ofcause imagine that a comment (as this one:-) it can be easy to 'miss the points' because one may not read it with the same attention as you would read the initial article... Well moderators are humans too.
As for the article, some points are valid (among others the old trusty 'if someone put a lot of effort into a piece of work, he should be permitted to sell it without being a bad guy).
As for myself i write GPL:ed software at home, but closed sourced software at work, although i still at work advocate that we should opersource our stuff, and let people use it for free (its embedded sw so they would still have to buy our hardware, but would be able to make improvements).
Why im an open source / free software advocate? Well, above all, im a tech-lover. I want to see progress in the field of technology, and sharing our work, to let others build upon the foundation of eachothers code MUST TECHNICALLY BE A GOOD THING. (just want a better world...)
But we must not be fanatics. People who write closed source stuff arnt neccesary bad guys. Many of the games that i like most (Curse of Monkey island for example) are comersial software. Nowaday i buy every game i really want, because there is a lot of effort behind them and i dont believe that they would have been made without paying customers. True, we are seing free games, some of them will eventually be very good (perhaps Parsec), but how many commercial quality free games are there?
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A lot of good points in this thread!
I agree that precashing everything sounds a bit wastful. But what if the user could select an item in the menu that causes the browser to precashe all pages on the current server (wget -r) and keep it available when offline?
That idea with ICQ+AOL integration sounds interresting. That would give a supported, reliable 'standard' client. Another nice feature would be text to speech support (as in Konqueror). Then id like a to mozilla to monitor pages and inform me when they have changed.(didnt navigator do that with the bookmarks?)
Codebase size shouldnt be a problem, just make these functions optional plugins that are kept separate from the main program.
(Dont you think that your ICQ contact list would look nice in that sidebar?)
Then there are things that really shouldnt be integrated too tightly. For example: downloads shouldnt abort if mozilla hangs (think 'copy link location' + wget).
Still, the new 0.9.5 is sweet. Love those tab's!
Remember the old articale about the dude who grants use of certain patents for GPL:ed projects? Wink, wink!
As usual im writing this from my sofa using an old laptop as a dumb terminal connected to the computer in another room. Textmode really rocks! Now, if there only were VT102 terminals with Braille output...
Well okay http://www.playboy.com doesnt rock in textmode... In that case this device is interresting.
A few months ago - when I was watching 'Dead Poets Society' (I must have seen it a dozen times by now) while preparing for an exam - I thought: 'Yes, but why study poetry in school? Who really needs it?'. And then i thought: 'Computer engineers!
/Ter
'What the devil is he talking about?'
A good poet can use his or her knowledge and experience in a language to write expressions that delivers a statement - or a feeling - to the reader. This is usually done in such a way so it is easy to read and conforms to the structure of the verse.
A coder uses his or her knowledge and experience in a computer language to write classes and functions that implements some functionality. This should be done in such a way so it is easy for others to understand what the code does. It should also conform to the structure and coding conventions of the rest of the program.
In both cases we're reaching for the excellence in simplicity and structure.
Ofcause there's a lot of lyrics out there that may be an unsuitable inspiration for software development. I wonder how code based on Techno would look (perhaps I'm just getting old)...
Gottlob Frege said "Every good mathematician is at least half a philosopher, and every good philosopher is at least half a mathematician". Well, in that case, perhaps every good computer engineer is atleast half a poet...
Well, Gabriel Knight III is the most difficult game. But there is one even more taxing puzzle;
You must at one point complete a latin sentence with a final word, and the re-arrange all letters to form a new sentence (again in latin!).
But the story in Gabriel Knight III is the most compelling one i've ever seen. It would make a great film. (No i havn't seen J Jensens catscan)
But we are now only two month away from the next episode in the most hilarious adventure game series ever; Escape from Monkey Island.
As long as Lucasarts keep releasing adevnture games, i dont mind booting up Windows to play.
I liked Grim Fandango... and can you ever imagine a more Nerdish hero than Guybrush.
The problem with adventure games is once you solve them, there is noo need to play them again (unless you wait a couple of years). So you get more for your mon(k)ey if you buy a action or strategy game.
Perhaps thats one important factor to the Grim Future for adventure games.
Main weaknesses in misc browsers:
IE5 (under Wine): You can only view the MS site.
Netscape: To darn unstable. (stay away of shift+ins)
Konqueror: No Javascript or has it(?)
Mozilla: Helperapps doesnt work (otherwise id use it)
Opera: Too... well... unfinished
Lynx, Emacs: get real!
According to the release notes, it should not be possible to associate filetypes with helper apps. Has ANYONE managed to do this. I ran to MP3.COM and tried to listen to a song (lo fi), received a dialog that gave the the option to associate an applicating (Pick App), but when i tried to it said that the feature wasnt implemented yet.
/T
Ok, so i headed over to the preferences dialog and selected Navicagor->Helper applications. Then things got ugly.
Has anyone managed to make helper apps work?
>Doesn't take much to get you Microsoft
>Astroturfers shitting in your pants, does
>it? Is this *really* that hard for morons
>like you to comprend?
Why does my desire to prevent unneccesary
branches make me a whatever? I think that
the industry embracing Linux is great.
>A lot of the stuff that'll be going into
>Linux designed for embedded purposes
>wouldn't be really useful for the general
>standard-purpose Linux kernel and most
>likely wouldn't be included in a standard
>Linux dists meant to run on PC's. Different
>processors, diffrent kernel code.
I agree that the required features will be somewhat different, but if 'embedded'-Linux will run on SOC that are architecturally simmilar to PC:s, should SOME features be candidates for incorporation in the 'vanilla' kernel.
Cheers!
Well, youre probably right...
However, just that the (interrupt) latency is low isnt enough. I once wanted to implement a simple serial protocol under Linux. The problem was that i wanted to create a 5 ms delay (before switching of the carrier) without freezing the other tasks. I wanted to the the timer (real time timer) to wake up my process (via SIGALRM). Thats when i found out that the system worked with a resolution of 10 ms ("jiffies?").
I wouldnt mind missing a deadline once in a while, but i wanted it to work in atleast 95% of the time...
The bit about 'making the OS freely available' sounds like they arn't on the same wavelength as the community. Should we be concerned that the 'consortiums' will cause more fragmentation of Linux? There are some versions of Linux that 'exists' as patches, and add functionality that for some reason arn't included in the 'standard' kernel. It sounds like this OS will be a complete fork, though. Is there a risk that the modifications that are made will make it difficult to move useful functionality from one kernel to another? Will the concortium understand the importance of preventing this? If the developement process of this new OS is visible to the community, we will ofcause be able to influence them before things go wrong. Lets hope that the consortium isnt to secretive.
Why Linux why not RTLinux. Should be per suitable for many embedded systems.
Well, im not sure EXACTLY what 'trolling' is. It SOUNDS like a comment thats just being negative but doesnt contain much substance, but IMHO the article did have a few points. I can ofcause imagine that a comment (as this one :-) it can be easy to 'miss the points' because one may not read it with the same attention as you would read the initial article... Well moderators are humans too.
/Tersevs
As for the article, some points are valid (among others the old trusty 'if someone put a lot of effort into a piece of work, he should be permitted to sell it without being a bad guy).
As for myself i write GPL:ed software at home, but closed sourced software at work, although i still at work advocate that we should opersource our stuff, and let people use it for free (its embedded sw so they would still have to buy our hardware, but would be able to make improvements).
Why im an open source / free software advocate? Well, above all, im a tech-lover. I want to see progress in the field of technology, and sharing our work, to let others build upon the foundation of eachothers code MUST TECHNICALLY BE A GOOD THING. (just want a better world...)
But we must not be fanatics. People who write closed source stuff arnt neccesary bad guys. Many of the games that i like most (Curse of Monkey island for example) are comersial software. Nowaday i buy every game i really want, because there is a lot of effort behind them and i dont believe that they would have been made without paying customers. True, we are seing free games, some of them will eventually be very good (perhaps Parsec), but how many commercial quality free games are there?