Really, They are actually slowing *you* down. Motivate them into another job.
After that, hire a couple of proven contractors to catch it up. Contractors love short deadlines, and keep an eye out.
=== ANSWER #2 === You stupid bastard.
How long were they able to work without supervision? You are obviously not following any decent development methodology.
At this point, you need an XP style devlopment process in place.
1. Put SHORT (1-2 week) iterations in place. 2. Get a commitment of features that they will deliver. 3. Have them code them 4. MAKE SURE THEY WORK IN PAIRS. Now ordinarily, I'm not a advocate of pair programming, but these people obviously need constant supervision. 5. Install Web-tracking software on their PCs and/or the firewall. They are obviously losing the time somewhere, and it's probably due to web browsing. 5.1 alternativly, put a corporate firewall in place, and use a proxy. block 100% of the sites, and have a policy/procedure for adding sites to the "do not block list" at the proxy. Do they need to check Ebay/Slashdot/cnn/hotmail/farmchicks.com ? during working hours. Hell no. 6.[back to coding...] If they fail to deliver the promised code in the first iteration. FIRE THEM. Useless twits make all software development staff look bad.
Motivation is the wrong approach to use at this point in time. They are being paid to do a job. Do not continue to pay them for non-performance.
And really, it doesn't *REALLY* require a special network-drive controller, he just wants diskless stations, and to support many.
He just suggested that a network-drive controller would be a way of killing more ducks with one gun.
Now, Tangentally, Here's another Idea I have:
Take Linux, add Wine, but using your current version of windows, use as many original DLLs as you can, thereby preserving as much Windows Code as possible.
Now, hang on flameboys, before you explode... If you are going to run Windows anyway, wouldn't it be nice if it were under Linux, if possible?
The question is: If you load Original MS DLL's into WINE, how compatable can you get?
I personally don't like to use VMWare when I don't have to, as it's not exactly the smoothest solution.
I would not hesitate to say that it has it's share of difficulties, but there is no way anything is going to replace it anytime soon. There are many meta-features of CVS that make it unable to be replaced:
1. Multi-platform: I don't mean 3 or 4 or even 5 or 6, bla bla bla. I mean EVERYWHERE. I've seen CVS on more places that anything besides emacs and gcc. And really, anyplace gcc or emacs goes, cvs is the third guy there.
2. Massive Acceptance: CVS is everywhere. 10 million people use it with sourceforge. Another few million elsewhere. It is the common thread that binds us together (kinda like the force!)
3. Massive, Massive Tool support: This is my favorite. You can use it about a hundred different ways. Not 1 gui, but 50!. It goes into command line apps like great!. Show me another tool that has integration with the windows explorer (via TortoiseCVS) like it has. You Can't. (Don't even try that god-awful Bitkeeper's integration:yuk!)
4. SimplicityIt's REALLY simple to use. It's not that complicated. If CVS throws you for a loop, maybe software devleopment really isn't where you should be working. The incompetence among developers is what makes all software look bad.
5. Protocols: You can run CVS thru SSH, RSH, PServer, File Access, and more... It fits into every environment. It works across any damn network. It can jump tall buildings in a single bound!
Really, until someone makes something that trounces CVS in all those areas, AND provides features that "I can't live without" CVS will Rule.
I'd love such an invention. Heck, I'd pay damn good money too!
I've looked into that sort of thing before, and came up nach.
I've seen a peice of software for windows that does this called boot-nic.It's not exactly cheap tho'... they seem to have this really dumb-ass idea where their market it. Quite sad really.
While linux isn't impossible to setup for remote booting, I don't know of any resonably priced solution for Windows 2000/XP.
Really, I too learned to play the piano first. When I was about 10 I started to hunt and peck on a computer, and I learned my own uniqe style.
I found that not only can I out-type the touch-typists I know (including my wife at 100+ wpm), I also have the unique ability of being somewhat fault tolerant. I year or so ago I sliced open my index finger with a knife, and I ended up having it in a big-ass bandage for a couple of weeks. I just didn't use that finger, and kept a very fast pace on the keyboard. I was amused.
I also find that I lose about 10-15 wpm when I switch away from my IBM Selectric keyboard, which is why I buy every one I run across, and have one on every computer I use. Drives the people at work somewhat nuts 'cause it's quite loud, when I'm cranking out code.;)
There is a company Cell-loc that has been working on this same sort of thing, wireless location technology, without GPS.
I can certainly see that this sort of thing is going to get big, and a large number of companies are going to want it bad.
It's kinda neat stuff, and it nicely fits where GPS doesn't: Downtown. GPS requires line-of-site to the satelites, and without that you get no position. When you are downtown, amongst big buidlings, you can't find anything.
Asset tracking is going to be big too. Help! I lost my car/pet/wife/computer!
BUUUUUT!
I just can't see how that information is going to be private, I mean when the cops can simply get a warrent for the information, bam! instant confirmation of location. Privacy Agreement or not.
I think you are going to have a hard time finding people with the relevant experience in the slashdot crowd.
That being said, what *really* needs to be provided by the BIOS these days. I'm suprised they even bother talking with you in the first place. Why fix bugs that aren't used from the OS these days anyway.
I'm not really sure what features in the BIOS aren't provided by today's popular OS drivers either? Anyone?
1. Imagine for a minute that you are slightly handicapped, in that moving a mouse for you is difficult, or problematic.
NOW TRY TO USE THAT GOD-AUFUL Installer. Just go ahead. I double dare you.
What boggles my mind, is that for a predominiantly console-based set of apps, they make this lousy installer that forces you to use a MOUSE and and click a billion times in order to get everything. Like Hello? Even just an "Install ALL" button would be nice.
This is quite sad, as Cygwin is pretty much a poster child for Open Source apps on Windows. And just to show how 'great' it is, they package it with the crappiest installer ever. Way To Go!
1. Install Cygwin. Yeah it's a dumb shitty-ass pathetic installer, and those who built it should be slain and their bodies fed to pigs, but hey, the tools are nice when you are done.
3. Do yourself a favor. Add those two to the path. Right click on My Computer, select Properties, click the Advanced Tab, and click on Envionment Variables. Under System Variables, find the PATH statement, and add in the following : ;c:\cygwin\bin;c:\Program Files\CVS for NT
4. While you are in there, add a new System Variable: CVS_RSH and set it to SSH.
Now, it's all set up and ready to use, as long as you know how to use CVS. (an entirely different question).
Now, if you like GUI tools at all I highly recommend the following:
TortoiseCVS -- This can EASILY be setup to use SSH. As a matter of fact, the builds past 0.49 have it all ready to go. Read the docs, and you'll see.
and WinCVS -- Which is the king daddy of CVS Gui Apps for Windows. A bit clunky for my needs.
and Jalindi Igloo -- A SCC API plugin for CVS. What's that? -- It's allows Windows Development tools to use CVS instead of Visual Source Safe (VSS=a plague!). Sweet, simple and kinda nice if you like that kinda thing.
Calling this variant of the GNU system "Linux" plays into the hands of people who choose their software based only on technical advantage, not caring whether it respects their freedom.
OH MY FSCKING GOD Heaven forbid your majestic imperialness! That we actually choose software based on the requirements at hand, rather than the communist philosophy. Holy Crap!
This is most bizarre. This is the kind of stupidity that contributes to the failure of Linux to be accepted as the #1 desktop platform. The moment developers that build the components felt that you should use it because it was Free ( not just Free(Gratis/Libre) but GNUFree (TM) ) and not because it was better, than Microsoft has won.
... There are people like Torvalds that will pressure our community into use of a non-free program... Again, What hast thou done, my Lord?
You hypocrytical bastard. You are applying your own PRESSURE in order to have us use FREE software only.
IT IS ABOUT CHOICE, RICHARD! Not to curtail your views about building the uber-collective , but I'm sorry. I Choose to pick which software I run. I do. Not YOU.
**Slashdot Editors** : I think it's about time that you get a picture of RMS and do him up like the borg the same way you did Gates. If we continue to go down the RMS path, he'll have us give up our personal freedoms and liberties in order that we join his collective, and push GNUFree Software down everyone's throats 'Cause it's good for them.
DOS used to be universal too. Aren't you glad we've moved on?
Um, not quite the same thing. And not quite 'universal'... As a matter of fact, there were more choices back then...;)
I heartily recommend TortoiseCVS.
Oh! Me Too. As a matter of fact, that somewhat validates my point. I like Tortise. I also like that I can drop down to the command line anytime. Until a CVS-up-and-commer makes drop-in dlls, exes and shared libaries that can look like CVS (not from a protocol level, but an interface level) where Tortise won't know the difference, I have no good reason to switch. Basically the flexibility and massive availibility of CVS outweighs its shortcommings.
Jalindi-Igloo is a SCC interface for cvs using the WinCvs shared libraries. It's written by Graham Robertson and it's free!
There's also the command line version.
On Linux, there is a ton more choices.
The simple fact of the matter is there is a million different ways I can access the same repository, no matter my platform.
Until someone comes out with the server that supports CVS's whacked out protocol on port 2401, I ain't ever gonna switch.
I've been running the same CVS repository for about 4 1/2 years on an old Pentium 90 in my basement. I've got hundreds of project sitting on it, and it works fine.
Yes, I'll acknowlege that CVS has it's down sides, but hey, at least it's universal.;)
Sun has always been most standoffish towards the Opensource crowd. I've never understood why so many of the Open source advocates keep putting them up on a pedastal.
They have a long history of claiming other's works as their own--Which in my opinion is the worst crime you can do against open source people, take away the credit!
1. They claimed that the blackdown port of Java to linux was theirs!
2. They "adopted" the free and entirely non-sun code base for Java Servlets (Jakarta) and claimed it was the "Sun Reference Platform"
3. They "adopted" and FSCKED UP ROYALLY the XML4J/LotusXSL stuff that IBM had created and mangled out that god-forsaken peice of crap known as JAXP.
4. At one time, Scott McNealy admitted that Sun had indeed been the brainchild behind XML.
5. They ask ECMA to rubber-stamp their Java Language as an offical standard, but allow SUN to keep all rights for licensing and changing the language as they wish. ECMA tells them to "get bent" and SUN goes off sulking to anyone who will listen. Java still remains in the hands of the nutters who thought it up.
It seems that from a cursory glance, SUN has done many things to piss off the Java and the Opensource crowds. It's a mystery to me why people attack Microsoft for crimes very similar to these, but always praise Sun for their benevolence.
At LEAST Microsoft took their language and VM to ECMA, and said standardize it, and we'll accept it. (It doesn't hurt that ECMA is pretty MS friendly, and the chairman of the TC39 committee is a MS employee, but at least they took the right steps)
Did you actually read the description of what he's going to be running? iFolder... that means Netware 6. This is not 5.0, or (god forbid!) 4.0 - this is a new OS, fully multiprocessor aware, running Apache & Tomcat!
I certainly did read it. I did assume that NW6 was his target, and I must admit that I haven't use NW6, but figured one of a few things would be true.
(a) NW6 (in spite of their claims) is a rehash of 5. Same Crappy Code, Same Crappy Station, complete with all of the security exploits.
(b) NW6 is a brand-spankin-new OS, by the people who brought us a 27Mb client install package, and world's worst performing distributed hierarchical database(NDS)
(b.1) If this is a brand-new OS, what kind of security holes does it have?
(b.2) iFolder. Whoosh. I just imagine the security holes with that.
We typically are only forced to bounce servers for three reasons: power outages, support packs, or faulty apps (server-side virus scanners & backup programs are big culprits here).
My Point Precisely!
Run software at your own risk!
And you can EASILY develop server apps to run in Protected memory spaces nowadays.
I agree, you can develop server apps to run in protected space nowadays. Problem is, unless you want to do it in Java, kiss goodbye any useful external libraries.
I believe that Apache and Tomcat are even configured to run in Protected memory spaces by default on NW6.
Mighty nice of them to put them in protected memory. By default even. Wow.
Netware will easily let you shoot your own foot off, along with the feet of everyone else running on the same box - but so will Windows etc.
Netware goes that extra step: It places the gun in your hand, loads it, cocks it, puts it to your temple, and then waits till you're distracted and makes a loud noise behind you.
Devlopment on Windows, while um...fun, doesn't put the gun barrel to your head. In order to start wreckin' stuff, you have to try.
I can't speak to *BSD, having never used it in production.
I'm not saying BSD's the holy land of software, as I pretty much beleive that ALL OSes SUCK.
Netware just happens to suck more than :
*BSD
Linux
Windows 2k
Windows XP
I'll give you that it sucks less than the 9x/ME line of Windows, and probably somewhat less than the designeer OSes (BeOS, AmigaOS, etc...).
I'll give you the reason that it was ghe de facto standard: the God-awful NOS's of the late 80s, early 90s. Anyone remember (*shudder*)Lantastic? Banyan?
Netware *could* remain stable somewhat if you didn't look at it crosseyed, or try to run anything other than the stock software. God help you if you were stupid enough to try to use it as some sort of appserver. When Novell's business plans changed to include internet services, I almost peed my pants laughing so hard.
I really like how the Question poster boasted about the "security" of Netware. When I was deep into Netware, there were a ton of exploits to gain priviliged access on it. (Hint: do a search on google for Netware hacking).
You do have a valid point about speed. Netware4 and Netware3 ran in ring 0 , along with all of your NLM's. (Hence the beginning of the crashapalooza) When everything ran in ring 0, nothing was protected, although you did gain mighty fast access times to hardware ports.
I often used Netware as an alternative developement platform, providing that you didn't need any useful libraries. It provided a solution for writing ring 0 code, which once mastered, could be done somewhat quickly.
I'll be running NetWare because it provides the stability of Linux/BSD, exceeds the configuration ease of Windows, and provides the security and worm/virus immunity of...well, NetWare.
I just snorted out my coffee thru my nose onto the screen, I was laughing so damn hard.
I have no idea what planet you come from young man, but HOLY MOLY!
Netware is such an unstable peice of crap, it goes down more often than a 2$ Vegas Whore.
I've never understood those who proclaim that it is stable. Sheesh, I mean really. Having spent YEARS developing software for that ungodly mess, I can assure you, it's stability doens't reach BSD's stability. Only admins on crack think otherwise. And under no circumstances is it any "easier" than Windows.. Windows is simplistic to administer effectivly.
the Transmeta and Cyrix/VIA chips,... don't really get NetWare.
There's a REASON for that bud! it's called NETWARE. It's the OS that doesn't get it. Holy Freekin' Moley.
What exactly do you mean by active? There are two drives on one IDE interface? Two Drives, one on each interface? One Drive, And both interfaces turned on in the BIOS?
I'll take for granted that you actually have a good way of measuring drive performance, and it's not just a 'feeling'.
What motherboard/Chipset/PC's are you talking about here? Have you replicated the results on dissimilar hardware?
What was significance of the second active ide controller? were you moving data to two drives?
And finally, Why is your system sooooo dependant on disk I/O? If this is the case, mayhap you need to re-engineer the app somewhat to balance out the disk IO aspect. If it's actually CONSTANTLY saturating one or two IDE channels, Quit being a complete twit, and move to SCSI, where this isn't a problem.
If you actually want help on this, you had better provide a heck of alot more information up front.
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To buy some Microsoft stock
... WTF?
Really, Every time Sun gets some idea about how to dethrone Microsoft, and crown themselves, they perpetually f*ck it up.
Java: Good Try, but the constant fighting blew it.
StarOffice: Uh, It's GPL, er No!
Is there anywhere to still download the binaries?
;)
I'd like to preserve it for posterity
=== ANSWER #1 ===
Do replace them.
Really, They are actually slowing *you* down. Motivate them into another job.
After that, hire a couple of proven contractors to catch it up. Contractors love short deadlines, and keep an eye out.
=== ANSWER #2 ===
You stupid bastard.
How long were they able to work without supervision? You are obviously not following any decent development methodology.
At this point, you need an XP style devlopment process in place.
1. Put SHORT (1-2 week) iterations in place.
2. Get a commitment of features that they will deliver.
3. Have them code them
4. MAKE SURE THEY WORK IN PAIRS. Now ordinarily, I'm not a advocate of pair programming, but these people obviously need constant supervision.
5. Install Web-tracking software on their PCs and/or the firewall. They are obviously losing the time somewhere, and it's probably due to web browsing.
5.1 alternativly, put a corporate firewall in place, and use a proxy. block 100% of the sites, and have a policy/procedure for adding sites to the "do not block list" at the proxy. Do they need to check Ebay/Slashdot/cnn/hotmail/farmchicks.com ? during working hours. Hell no.
6.[back to coding...] If they fail to deliver the promised code in the first iteration. FIRE THEM. Useless twits make all software development staff look bad.
Motivation is the wrong approach to use at this point in time. They are being paid to do a job. Do not continue to pay them for non-performance.
*whew*
The article simply quotes drivel from Motorolla. "Motorolla" says this and "Motorolla" says that.
Is this the state of pathetetic journalism?
I wanted to see what someone said after they had one in their hands.
My god! How much time does it really get?
Heck, Sony claimed I could get three hours battery time off my VAIO laptop. Not once did I see it get two hours from regualar use.
It's not that people aren't getting it.
It's that there isn't what the poster wants.
And really, it doesn't *REALLY* require a special network-drive controller, he just wants diskless stations, and to support many.
He just suggested that a network-drive controller would be a way of killing more ducks with one gun.
Now, Tangentally, Here's another Idea I have:
Take Linux, add Wine, but using your current version of windows, use as many original DLLs as you can, thereby preserving as much Windows Code as possible.
Now, hang on flameboys, before you explode... If you are going to run Windows anyway, wouldn't it be nice if it were under Linux, if possible?
The question is: If you load Original MS DLL's into WINE, how compatable can you get?
I personally don't like to use VMWare when I don't have to, as it's not exactly the smoothest solution.
Look, CVS is king.
Yes, King.
I would not hesitate to say that it has it's share of difficulties, but there is no way anything is going to replace it anytime soon. There are many meta-features of CVS that make it unable to be replaced:
1. Multi-platform: I don't mean 3 or 4 or even 5 or 6, bla bla bla. I mean EVERYWHERE. I've seen CVS on more places that anything besides emacs and gcc. And really, anyplace gcc or emacs goes, cvs is the third guy there.
2. Massive Acceptance: CVS is everywhere. 10 million people use it with sourceforge. Another few million elsewhere. It is the common thread that binds us together (kinda like the force!)
3. Massive, Massive Tool support: This is my favorite. You can use it about a hundred different ways. Not 1 gui, but 50!. It goes into command line apps like great!. Show me another tool that has integration with the windows explorer (via TortoiseCVS) like it has. You Can't. (Don't even try that god-awful Bitkeeper's integration:yuk!)
4. SimplicityIt's REALLY simple to use. It's not that complicated. If CVS throws you for a loop, maybe software devleopment really isn't where you should be working. The incompetence among developers is what makes all software look bad.
5. Protocols: You can run CVS thru SSH, RSH, PServer, File Access, and more... It fits into every environment. It works across any damn network. It can jump tall buildings in a single bound!
Really, until someone makes something that trounces CVS in all those areas, AND provides features that "I can't live without" CVS will Rule.
I'd love such an invention. Heck, I'd pay damn good money too!
I've looked into that sort of thing before, and came up nach.
I've seen a peice of software for windows that does this called boot-nic.It's not exactly cheap tho'... they seem to have this really dumb-ass idea where their market it. Quite sad really.
While linux isn't impossible to setup for remote booting, I don't know of any resonably priced solution for Windows 2000/XP.
Hmmm
Finally! Someone who types like me!
;)
Really, I too learned to play the piano first. When I was about 10 I started to hunt and peck on a computer, and I learned my own uniqe style.
I found that not only can I out-type the touch-typists I know (including my wife at 100+ wpm), I also have the unique ability of being somewhat fault tolerant. I year or so ago I sliced open my index finger with a knife, and I ended up having it in a big-ass bandage for a couple of weeks. I just didn't use that finger, and kept a very fast pace on the keyboard. I was amused.
I also find that I lose about 10-15 wpm when I switch away from my IBM Selectric keyboard, which is why I buy every one I run across, and have one on every computer I use. Drives the people at work somewhat nuts 'cause it's quite loud, when I'm cranking out code.
There is a company Cell-loc that has been working on this same sort of thing, wireless location technology, without GPS.
I can certainly see that this sort of thing is going to get big, and a large number of companies are going to want it bad.
It's kinda neat stuff, and it nicely fits where GPS doesn't: Downtown. GPS requires line-of-site to the satelites, and without that you get no position. When you are downtown, amongst big buidlings, you can't find anything.
Asset tracking is going to be big too. Help! I lost my car/pet/wife/computer!
BUUUUUT!
I just can't see how that information is going to be private, I mean when the cops can simply get a warrent for the information, bam! instant confirmation of location. Privacy Agreement or not.
Your math sucks so bad, it ain't funny.
1sq yd = 9 sq feet
(3x3 = 9)
so
65 sq yds = 585 sq feet.
Which sounds like a tiny ass 1 bedroom apartment.
Get a bigger place.
I think you are going to have a hard time finding people with the relevant experience in the slashdot crowd.
That being said, what *really* needs to be provided by the BIOS these days. I'm suprised they even bother talking with you in the first place. Why fix bugs that aren't used from the OS these days anyway.
I'm not really sure what features in the BIOS aren't provided by today's popular OS drivers either? Anyone?
I'll tell you:
1. Imagine for a minute that you are slightly handicapped, in that moving a mouse for you is difficult, or problematic.
NOW TRY TO USE THAT GOD-AUFUL Installer. Just go ahead. I double dare you.
What boggles my mind, is that for a predominiantly console-based set of apps, they make this lousy installer that forces you to use a MOUSE and and click a billion times in order to get everything. Like Hello? Even just an "Install ALL" button would be nice.
This is quite sad, as Cygwin is pretty much a poster child for Open Source apps on Windows. And just to show how 'great' it is, they package it with the crappiest installer ever. Way To Go!
Ok,
;c:\cygwin\bin;c:\Program Files\CVS for NT
:
1. Install Cygwin. Yeah it's a dumb shitty-ass pathetic installer, and those who built it should be slain and their bodies fed to pigs, but hey, the tools are nice when you are done.
2. Install CVSNT. Easy install, take it all.
3. Do yourself a favor. Add those two to the path. Right click on My Computer, select Properties, click the Advanced Tab, and click on Envionment Variables. Under System Variables, find the PATH statement, and add in the following :
4. While you are in there, add a new System Variable: CVS_RSH and set it to SSH.
Now, it's all set up and ready to use, as long as you know how to use CVS. (an entirely different question).
Now, if you like GUI tools at all I highly recommend the following
TortoiseCVS -- This can EASILY be setup to use SSH. As a matter of fact, the builds past 0.49 have it all ready to go. Read the docs, and you'll see.
and WinCVS -- Which is the king daddy of CVS Gui Apps for Windows. A bit clunky for my needs.
and Jalindi Igloo -- A SCC API plugin for CVS. What's that? -- It's allows Windows Development tools to use CVS instead of Visual Source Safe (VSS=a plague!). Sweet, simple and kinda nice if you like that kinda thing.
--
Wuff
Calling this variant of the GNU system "Linux" plays into the hands of people who choose their software based only on technical advantage, not caring whether it respects their freedom.
... There are people like Torvalds that will pressure our community into use of a non-free program...
OH MY FSCKING GOD
Heaven forbid your majestic imperialness! That we actually choose software based on the requirements at hand, rather than the communist philosophy. Holy Crap!
This is most bizarre. This is the kind of stupidity that contributes to the failure of Linux to be accepted as the #1 desktop platform. The moment developers that build the components felt that you should use it because it was Free ( not just Free(Gratis/Libre) but GNUFree (TM) ) and not because it was better, than Microsoft has won.
Again, What hast thou done, my Lord?
You hypocrytical bastard. You are applying your own PRESSURE in order to have us use FREE software only.
IT IS ABOUT CHOICE, RICHARD! Not to curtail your views about building the uber-collective , but I'm sorry. I Choose to pick which software I run. I do. Not YOU.
**Slashdot Editors** : I think it's about time that you get a picture of RMS and do him up like the borg the same way you did Gates. If we continue to go down the RMS path, he'll have us give up our personal freedoms and liberties in order that we join his collective, and push GNUFree Software down everyone's throats 'Cause it's good for them.
Amen.
I've often wrestled with this too.
One company I've workded for was quite good about comming up with the usernames for people, and keeping them unique:
use up to 4 characters of their last name+the last 4 digits of their social security number.
Works great. Everyone can remember their own, and I've never seen a duplicate. (sera7492)
!S
I have a 14 year old ESDI drive
I was about to call horseshit on that claim, but then I checked the year again. How the Hell did 14 years pass since I had an ESDI drive.
Holy Crap, I must be getting old.
Apparently PetzWhorehouse doesn't want any more customers.
This kind of bad press only makes them look stupid and desperate. Kinda reminds me of Bernie Shifman
Is it just me, or do these people figure the world owes them just because they are alive?
*sigh*
GnuBe...
is that Guh-noo-bee
or is the 'g' silent:
NewBie?
AAAAAGH! That's just wrong!
"What are you Running"....
"Oh I'm a newbie!"
Yikes!
DOS used to be universal too. Aren't you glad we've moved on?
;)
Um, not quite the same thing. And not quite 'universal'... As a matter of fact, there were more choices back then...
I heartily recommend TortoiseCVS.
Oh! Me Too. As a matter of fact, that somewhat validates my point. I like Tortise. I also like that I can drop down to the command line anytime. Until a CVS-up-and-commer makes drop-in dlls, exes and shared libaries that can look like CVS (not from a protocol level, but an interface level) where Tortise won't know the difference, I have no good reason to switch. Basically the flexibility and massive availibility of CVS outweighs its shortcommings.
Actually, my point is, that until someone makes their version control system a drop-in replacement for CVS, CVS will still remain the king.
;)
I like the fact that I can use several different clients for CVS.
On Windows :
WinCVS is a nice CVS system for windows.
CvsIn is a plug-in for MS Visual C++ written by Jerzy Kaczorowski.
TortoiseCVS is a plug-in for Windows Explorer written by Francis Irving.
cvsscc is an SCC interface for CVS.
Jalindi-Igloo is a SCC interface for cvs using the WinCvs shared libraries. It's written by Graham Robertson and it's free!
There's also the command line version.
On Linux, there is a ton more choices.
The simple fact of the matter is there is a million different ways I can access the same repository, no matter my platform.
Until someone comes out with the server that supports CVS's whacked out protocol on port 2401, I ain't ever gonna switch.
I've been running the same CVS repository for about 4 1/2 years on an old Pentium 90 in my basement. I've got hundreds of project sitting on it, and it works fine.
Yes, I'll acknowlege that CVS has it's down sides, but hey, at least it's universal.
Sun has always been most standoffish towards the Opensource crowd. I've never understood why so many of the Open source advocates keep putting them up on a pedastal.
They have a long history of claiming other's works as their own--Which in my opinion is the worst crime you can do against open source people, take away the credit!
1. They claimed that the blackdown port of Java to linux was theirs!
2. They "adopted" the free and entirely non-sun code base for Java Servlets (Jakarta) and claimed it was the "Sun Reference Platform"
3. They "adopted" and FSCKED UP ROYALLY the XML4J/LotusXSL stuff that IBM had created and mangled out that god-forsaken peice of crap known as JAXP.
4. At one time, Scott McNealy admitted that Sun had indeed been the brainchild behind XML.
5. They ask ECMA to rubber-stamp their Java Language as an offical standard, but allow SUN to keep all rights for licensing and changing the language as they wish. ECMA tells them to "get bent" and SUN goes off sulking to anyone who will listen. Java still remains in the hands of the nutters who thought it up.
It seems that from a cursory glance, SUN has done many things to piss off the Java and the Opensource crowds. It's a mystery to me why people attack Microsoft for crimes very similar to these, but always praise Sun for their benevolence.
At LEAST Microsoft took their language and VM to ECMA, and said standardize it, and we'll accept it. (It doesn't hurt that ECMA is pretty MS friendly, and the chairman of the TC39 committee is a MS employee, but at least they took the right steps)
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Did you actually read the description of what he's going to be running? iFolder... that means Netware 6. This is not 5.0, or (god forbid!) 4.0 - this is a new OS, fully multiprocessor aware, running Apache & Tomcat!
I certainly did read it. I did assume that NW6 was his target, and I must admit that I haven't use NW6, but figured one of a few things would be true.
(a) NW6 (in spite of their claims) is a rehash of 5. Same Crappy Code, Same Crappy Station, complete with all of the security exploits.
(b) NW6 is a brand-spankin-new OS, by the people who brought us a 27Mb client install package, and world's worst performing distributed hierarchical database(NDS)
(b.1) If this is a brand-new OS, what kind of security holes does it have?
(b.2) iFolder. Whoosh. I just imagine the security holes with that.
We typically are only forced to bounce servers for three reasons: power outages, support packs, or faulty apps (server-side virus scanners & backup programs are big culprits here).
My Point Precisely!
Run software at your own risk!
And you can EASILY develop server apps to run in Protected memory spaces nowadays.
I agree, you can develop server apps to run in protected space nowadays. Problem is, unless you want to do it in Java, kiss goodbye any useful external libraries.
I believe that Apache and Tomcat are even configured to run in Protected memory spaces by default on NW6.
Mighty nice of them to put them in protected memory. By default even. Wow.
Netware will easily let you shoot your own foot off, along with the feet of everyone else running on the same box - but so will Windows etc.
Netware goes that extra step: It places the gun in your hand, loads it, cocks it, puts it to your temple, and then waits till you're distracted and makes a loud noise behind you.
Devlopment on Windows, while um...fun, doesn't put the gun barrel to your head. In order to start wreckin' stuff, you have to try.
I can't speak to *BSD, having never used it in production.
I'm not saying BSD's the holy land of software, as I pretty much beleive that ALL OSes SUCK.
Netware just happens to suck more than :
*BSD
Linux
Windows 2k
Windows XP
I'll give you that it sucks less than the 9x/ME line of Windows, and probably somewhat less than the designeer OSes (BeOS, AmigaOS, etc...).
I'll give you the reason that it was ghe de facto standard: the God-awful NOS's of the late 80s, early 90s. Anyone remember (*shudder*)Lantastic? Banyan?
Netware *could* remain stable somewhat if you didn't look at it crosseyed, or try to run anything other than the stock software. God help you if you were stupid enough to try to use it as some sort of appserver. When Novell's business plans changed to include internet services, I almost peed my pants laughing so hard.
I really like how the Question poster boasted about the "security" of Netware. When I was deep into Netware, there were a ton of exploits to gain priviliged access on it. (Hint: do a search on google for Netware hacking).
You do have a valid point about speed. Netware4 and Netware3 ran in ring 0 , along with all of your NLM's. (Hence the beginning of the crashapalooza) When everything ran in ring 0, nothing was protected, although you did gain mighty fast access times to hardware ports.
I often used Netware as an alternative developement platform, providing that you didn't need any useful libraries. It provided a solution for writing ring 0 code, which once mastered, could be done somewhat quickly.
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I'll be running NetWare because it provides the stability of Linux/BSD, exceeds the configuration ease of Windows, and provides the security and worm/virus immunity of...well, NetWare.
I just snorted out my coffee thru my nose onto the screen, I was laughing so damn hard.
I have no idea what planet you come from young man, but HOLY MOLY!
Netware is such an unstable peice of crap, it goes down more often than a 2$ Vegas Whore.
I've never understood those who proclaim that it is stable. Sheesh, I mean really. Having spent YEARS developing software for that ungodly mess, I can assure you, it's stability doens't reach BSD's stability. Only admins on crack think otherwise. And under no circumstances is it any "easier" than Windows.. Windows is simplistic to administer effectivly.
the Transmeta and Cyrix/VIA chips,
There's a REASON for that bud! it's called NETWARE. It's the OS that doesn't get it. Holy Freekin' Moley.
*sigh*
What exactly do you mean by active? There are two drives on one IDE interface? Two Drives, one on each interface? One Drive, And both interfaces turned on in the BIOS?
I'll take for granted that you actually have a good way of measuring drive performance, and it's not just a 'feeling'.
What motherboard/Chipset/PC's are you talking about here? Have you replicated the results on dissimilar hardware?
What was significance of the second active ide controller? were you moving data to two drives?
And finally, Why is your system sooooo dependant on disk I/O? If this is the case, mayhap you need to re-engineer the app somewhat to balance out the disk IO aspect. If it's actually CONSTANTLY saturating one or two IDE channels, Quit being a complete twit, and move to SCSI, where this isn't a problem.
If you actually want help on this, you had better provide a heck of alot more information up front.
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