How hard would it be for MS to release Linux apps?
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Microsoft and the GPL
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Oracle has their whole database and depending on their mood - most of their product line.
Word Perfect had their WP on Linux. Many games have come out for Linux. There are other apps that have been released.
So, how is the GPL the thing (as the article mentioned) stopping MS from releasing stuff on Linux?
If they wanted to, they could have IE, Word, etc... on Linux - without GPL problems.
However, that eats directly into their core market - x86 machines. That person no longer need boot to windows for Word/Excel or to view that IE only web page. Sure - some people may be able to get by or around those limitiations, but MS products on Linux means anyone can get around those problems, and there goes the Desktop OS battle.
however, some of those Windows libraries, which are now included with ME/98?/2000, used to be installed when you downloaded (for free) and installed IE 4.0. That's why for a period there a lot of windows software came with IE4.0 to be installed - it may not be web based, but it needed some of the controls IE4.0 provided.
And the customers probably know when they are paying that this is a feature, and see it as a reason to go with Big Blue.
An interesting billing model - the more disk space you use, the more we bill you. I know the 3090 we had in school would call IBM if something bad happened to it (failure, temperature indicators said the room was too hot, lonely)
Well, according to the thread on DSLReports, when you install the MoBo drivers from CD, it is installed as part of the default install options.
It sounds like a custom install, skipping the PhoeinixNet stuff would get around it. Someone mentioned uninstalling the PhoenixNet stuff would also fix it.
Could you imagine how complex it'd have to be to be at the BIOS level only - a TCP/IP stack, network drivers, somehow using the NIC without the OS crapping out. Though, I must agree that the info on the phoenixnet site makes it sound like it is a MB only deal.
Guess I'll never find out...as now any new MB better have a huge Award sticker on it.
Good point. Since at some point the first GCC had to be cross-compiled or bootstrapped from a non-gcc, non-gpl, and therefore probably commercial/proprietary compiler, does that mean that all off gcc is non-gpl derived?
So, since the original gcc was non-gpl derived, then everything built with gcc, while it may be gpl derived, is truly non-gpl derived.
So, if you wanna build an application based on gpl code and not distribute it does that mean it's okay?
(Yes...for the GPL or death people, this is a joke)
Near the end of compositing tons of CGI together, someone said "Hey...we should at least pretend to add a plot to this." So they added him in at the last minute...probably some 16 script kiddie with a pirated copy of LightWave:)
I was seriously disappointed by the Scorpion King. Tim Curry in Legend was much more impressive.
There was also Firefox. I know it had various scenes from the movie (like the takeoff from Russia, and the landing/takeoff on the ice flow.) I seem to remember that for the most part it followed the same flow everytime - like when you are racing down the ravine.
It's not the same. I own that - one of my first CD-ROM's. It is billed as being "the complete arcade game", however it is lacking the one scene where you swing on the chains that are on fire.
So, I guess they were protecting the obviously lucrative market of selling old arcade games!
Re:I had Linux on a PS2 a while ago
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No - it can. I had a rep from Caldera at Networld+Interop sit there and tell me and a few other people that it runs on a 286. I tried to correct him, but he was a sales drone - facts are futile.
I could be wrong about the model number, but I remember having Linux on one. I also had 386BSD on it for a short time. I had wanted to try it but my machine didn't have a math copro at the time, so I found one of the PS/2's that did. It may have even been a 486.
It was so long ago... (though according to my bank, my employment is listed with them as "Recent Grad" - that was 8 years ago!)
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I had Linux on a PS2 a while ago
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I think it was a PS2 model 60. A pretty decent machine for 1992.
I think it's interesting. I'm reading an article and what to learn more about something-I just click on a smart link. I don't even have to visit my local library to learn more (Voyagers:)
However, it sounds like the way it is being done is to sell a word to the highest bidder. I want to learn more about SCSI - instead of being taken to the SCSI FAQ, I get sent to Adaptec's product site. If I wanna learn about what a database is, I'm sure I won't be going to Oracle's site, but probably a MS SQL Server site. (And has been mentioned, I'll never click on a smart tag that promises info about goats!)
My other question is where is all of this stored? Am I going to be (unknowingly) constantly downloading new smart-tag definitions to my hard drive -> soda=www.coke.com,beer=www.guinness.com
and how much more time is it going to take for a web page to load?
Also, can I hack the database once it is on my machine, so I can send Linux to www.linux.com, not www.microsoft.com/windows:)
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Oracle has their whole database and depending on their mood - most of their product line.
Word Perfect had their WP on Linux. Many games have come out for Linux. There are other apps that have been released.
So, how is the GPL the thing (as the article mentioned) stopping MS from releasing stuff on Linux?
If they wanted to, they could have IE, Word, etc... on Linux - without GPL problems.
However, that eats directly into their core market - x86 machines. That person no longer need boot to windows for Word/Excel or to view that IE only web page. Sure - some people may be able to get by or around those limitiations, but MS products on Linux means anyone can get around those problems, and there goes the Desktop OS battle.
Then again, IE on Solaris/HPUX blew.
however, some of those Windows libraries, which are now included with ME/98?/2000, used to be installed when you downloaded (for free) and installed IE 4.0. That's why for a period there a lot of windows software came with IE4.0 to be installed - it may not be web based, but it needed some of the controls IE4.0 provided.
No...he was correct. The $50 is for the 3DVD English box set. The $350 is for the 9 DVD Japanese box set, which is seperate - read the second link!
Guess that shows how old my computer is! :(
And the customers probably know when they are paying that this is a feature, and see it as a reason to go with Big Blue.
An interesting billing model - the more disk space you use, the more we bill you. I know the 3090 we had in school would call IBM if something bad happened to it (failure, temperature indicators said the room was too hot, lonely)
Well, according to the thread on DSLReports, when you install the MoBo drivers from CD, it is installed as part of the default install options.
It sounds like a custom install, skipping the PhoeinixNet stuff would get around it. Someone mentioned uninstalling the PhoenixNet stuff would also fix it.
Could you imagine how complex it'd have to be to be at the BIOS level only - a TCP/IP stack, network drivers, somehow using the NIC without the OS crapping out. Though, I must agree that the info on the phoenixnet site makes it sound like it is a MB only deal.
Guess I'll never find out...as now any new MB better have a huge Award sticker on it.
nope...they've been talking about these things coming out soon for 10+ years now.
When they come out with one and my wife finds I spent $x000 on one, then I'll be scared!
find out there's not a single service up and running on their webserver.
Yup...web is all them thar domains names are good for.
Good point. Since at some point the first GCC had to be cross-compiled or bootstrapped from a non-gcc, non-gpl, and therefore probably commercial/proprietary compiler, does that mean that all off gcc is non-gpl derived?
So, since the original gcc was non-gpl derived, then everything built with gcc, while it may be gpl derived, is truly non-gpl derived.
So, if you wanna build an application based on gpl code and not distribute it does that mean it's okay?
(Yes...for the GPL or death people, this is a joke)
Near the end of compositing tons of CGI together, someone said "Hey...we should at least pretend to add a plot to this." So they added him in at the last minute...probably some 16 script kiddie with a pirated copy of LightWave :)
I was seriously disappointed by the Scorpion King. Tim Curry in Legend was much more impressive.
Hence the line by Cary Elwes in "Robin Hood: Men in Tights"
And unlike some other Robin Hood's, I can actually do a British accent
To be honest, I don't even remember Costner even trying to do an accent in Robin Hood, but it's been a long while since I've seen it.
The only thing "The Mummy Returns" was inspired buy was the FX guys going "Hey...look what we can do."
There was also Firefox. I know it had various scenes from the movie (like the takeoff from Russia, and the landing/takeoff on the ice flow.) I seem to remember that for the most part it followed the same flow everytime - like when you are racing down the ravine.
It's not the same. I own that - one of my first CD-ROM's. It is billed as being "the complete arcade game", however it is lacking the one scene where you swing on the chains that are on fire.
So, I guess they were protecting the obviously lucrative market of selling old arcade games!
With a 2.5 to 3 hour round-trip light time between Earth and Saturn, flying anything on Titan has got to be a little dicey."
And I thought lag on my cable modem was bad.
I would assume some system would be incorporated to have it auto-navigate.
if(mountain) turn left;
And six years ago I paid $200 for a 1GB drive.
I hate being in the computer industry.
No - it can. I had a rep from Caldera at Networld+Interop sit there and tell me and a few other people that it runs on a 286. I tried to correct him, but he was a sales drone - facts are futile.
I could be wrong about the model number, but I remember having Linux on one. I also had 386BSD on it for a short time. I had wanted to try it but my machine didn't have a math copro at the time, so I found one of the PS/2's that did. It may have even been a 486.
It was so long ago... (though according to my bank, my employment is listed with them as "Recent Grad" - that was 8 years ago!)
From one of my messages in my spam folder:
This message is sent in compliance of the proposed bill
SECTION 301. per Section 301, Paragraph (a)(2)(C) of S.
1618. This message is not intended for residents in the
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the best of our technical ability.
See...not only does it follow a proposed (and struck down if I recall) house bill, but gosh darnit - they've done the best they can to make sure they know who they are spamming.
Now, if you'll excuse me, I need to reply to this guy because I am interest in making easy $$$ at home that involves increasing my penis size with the help of hot willing 18 year old girls.
Of course the other spam I got, I will simply reply and I'll never need to worry about getting spam from them again.
See, spammers are nice friendly people.
I think it was a PS2 model 60. A pretty decent machine for 1992.
:)
I guess I should have resisted
I think it's interesting. I'm reading an article and what to learn more about something-I just click on a smart link. I don't even have to visit my local library to learn more (Voyagers :)
:)
However, it sounds like the way it is being done is to sell a word to the highest bidder. I want to learn more about SCSI - instead of being taken to the SCSI FAQ, I get sent to Adaptec's product site. If I wanna learn about what a database is, I'm sure I won't be going to Oracle's site, but probably a MS SQL Server site. (And has been mentioned, I'll never click on a smart tag that promises info about goats!)
My other question is where is all of this stored? Am I going to be (unknowingly) constantly downloading new smart-tag definitions to my hard drive -> soda=www.coke.com,beer=www.guinness.com
and how much more time is it going to take for a web page to load?
Also, can I hack the database once it is on my machine, so I can send Linux to www.linux.com, not www.microsoft.com/windows
How many have been affordable to the consumer?
There was the powerglove.
The VPL glove was around $10,000.
One of the reasons I hate my palm pilot is that it does not use rechargable batteries.
I really really hate anything where I need to replace part of it on a regular basis.
It is terrible to generate so much waste, it is a money issue, and also, what happens if the company decides to stop making the replacement parts?
Thus spake Steve Ballmer:
"Linux is a cancer on intellectual property, and we (Microsoft) are...hey Bill, what cures cancer?"
Ever notice that Ballmer looks like Frankenstien's monster?
Depends. What if the property line was right down the middle of the tracks, and you and your neighboor both agreed to sell to the rails.
:)
Now, when they laid the fiber, they laid it on the neighboors side of the tracks, not yours.
Bummer
Yes...you could get a nice pretty fiber to your house. But do you think they'll give you the bandwidth for free?
"Sure - here is a one-time-cost - the physical fiber. If you don't want it dark, that'll be $2000 for 1.54Mbps, $20,000 for 45Mbps."