You get the performance of the 3090 and the API of Unix. So instead of running some of the ugliest code in the world under VM/CMS or somethng like that, you can get the latest apache w/ php or something.
Gee...I wonder if you'll be able to run X on a 3192G graphics terminal:) (ha ha ha)
According to CNN and stuff, the suit is based on UPS charging for package insurance (which is optional last I checked) even though they were self-insured. And in 1984, UPS outsourced their incurance. So, is this suit for charges before or after 1984?
I still don't get what they did wrong. Okay---so they are putting some of the money offshore for tax reasons and uncle sam's getting them for that (and I still don't see anything wrong with the offshore deal - screw the IRS!)
I guess in my mind it comes down to one thing: Did UPS payout for damaged insured packages?
If so, then where is the fraud? If you are not happy with where the unused money went, tough shit. If you don't like it - don't pay it.
Or am I missing something - I guess I just don't understand the government and lawyers. Only thing I see (on both sides) is greed.
It is unstable, has a hard time supporting standards for HTML/CSS, and the company seems to be too busy trying to make themselves be a little bit of every one to everything instead of releasing a stable, decent product.
As much as I hated MS's Explorer implentation on HPUX (Here...have our X libraries), it was much more stable. If they released a version for Linux I'd switch to it happily.
I went to Marist College in Poughkeepsie, NY - which isn't far in any direction from some of the big IBM buildings.
IBM gave the college a 3090 mainframe (top of the line then) just to see what they could do with it. There was a $15 million dollar joint-study, where IBM gave the school PS/2's at cheap prices and all sort of other things.
Now, given we were damned to a Token Ring network, it was still a great bonus for any student there. At a small traditionally liberal arts school, we got to play with stuff that was normally reserved for the bigger schools. I feel that I was able to learn a helluva a lot more without going to a MIT or Cornell, etc... (and a lot cheaper)
However MIT is already pretty far up there as far as technology goes - perhaps this will push them even further - or maybe we'll get an X port of Word. Wow - word on a RISC chip - a 100M executable ?
True - it's very easy to run an application from one under the other.
However, in the case you mentioned, you are running an app written for KDE under gnome. It will not take advantage of any special features gnome apps may have under the gnome desktop.
To do so the app would have to be specifically written to do so. But if you wrote it for Gnome, then it wouldn't take advantage of KDE stuff. Or you could write it for both, requiring both to be installed, and then somehow figure out which desktop is running and morph.
And then there is the whole look/feel issue.
What was asked is if there is a middle ground that would satisfy both - something like AddIconToDesktop which would add make the appropriate API call to either KDE or Gnome.
This has always been the problem with X. Be it simpler toolkits or entire desktop systems, there are just too many choices - be it good or bad.
Well, I've played with an Oracle NC and it was terrible.
However, MS has the software to get it done...and if they don't they could buy it.
If MS really pushed a NC to the business world as a cheap thing to put on everyones desk, I wonder what that would do to back-end servers. Right now a Linux box can sit behind a windows network just fine because of things like Samba.
But what happens when a MS NC is just a windows terminal...then that pretty much means the server behind it needs to be an NT server. And once one NT server gets in the door, many IS shops will just move everything to NT for the interoperability.
Another way for MS to make sure people buy NT? Or am I just getting paranoid from too much/.:)
Online/virtual courses is not going to make a difference...the requirements are still going to be there...you just get to read a poetry web page instead of sitting in a class.
People say that when you can get the "degree" elsewhere, then things will change. I think that the MCSE, MCSD, CNE, etc... are the very beginnings of this. At least in the computer field, the only one I care about:), they are getting to be just as good if not better than a bachelor degree. They are an indication that you actually know what would be useful to a company, whereas with a college degree it is a potluck deal.
I graduated with people who now have CS degrees that can't use a computer. You give them some source on a floppy disk and they are confused...if the IDE can't do it for them, they are lost. I remember someone being amazed because a program I did had an option to format a disk. When asked how, I told them I just started a shell and called format. You'd think I had started speaking latin!!!
I still remember college - I guess I'm not that old yet...though I am old enough to think all the current popular music sucks:)
The good part that I remember is that in the computer science curriculum, we actually learned some theory that was then applied to a real language. In my CS II class (linked lists, binary trees, etc...) we could turn in our assignments in any language we choose, just as long as they did what they should.
The bad parts I remember are:
1) Required core courses...Poetry? Why oh why?
2) Many of my profs hadn't learned much since they got out of school, so my computer architecture class, while still relevant, mainly covered the PDP-11 and it's CPU style. My assembly class was in IBM 370 Assembly.
3) Like the article said - many profs seemed to teach as if research was your ultimate goal. In my networking course, we learned 0% usefull info. Nothing about any real network topologies. We learned about packet collisions and test questions were along the lines of "If you have machine a sending to machine b, with a repeater a x feet, and assuming 30% network usage, how long would it take the packet to go from a to b". We then had to compute electron speed, latency at the repeater, etc...
Real friggin useful!
4) Graduate work. My school required 10 classes at the grad level. While an undergrad, I had taken five courses dually offered. There were a few difference between the way they were taught:
- Computer Graphics : no difference in the material or projects - Artificial Intelligence : Grads had to do 5 extra pages on the final paper - Compiler Design : Grads had to implement a for loop...I did it anyway. - Operating Systems : Grads had to implement something extra - did that too... - and some fifth one with no difference
Yet, to get a grad degree there, I'd have to retake those courses, or other ones. All the schools care about is one thing - you paying.
Yes...they have students 9 months of the year, plus a week before and after the students come/go.
And during those 8 hour days, they don't get to leave the campus - have to be on duty almost the whole time, and are usually busy with something or another during their "break" and planning time...and since they don't actually get to do any of the work preparing for their classes while at work, they have to spend a lot of (personal) time at home doing this work.
Where the hell do you get your "facts"?
The only fact I've seen is that you are proof that education needs some work.
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However, what if the smurf program was written to help test a firewall?
You can't just say this is good, that is bad.
Intent is the key - and the intent can't be known until the user has the program to use.
You never know.
:) (ha ha ha)
You get the performance of the 3090 and the API of Unix. So instead of running some of the ugliest code in the world under VM/CMS or somethng like that, you can get the latest apache w/ php or something.
Gee...I wonder if you'll be able to run X on a 3192G graphics terminal
According to CNN and stuff, the suit is based on UPS charging for package insurance (which is optional last I checked) even though they were self-insured. And in 1984, UPS outsourced their incurance. So, is this suit for charges before or after 1984?
I still don't get what they did wrong. Okay---so they are putting some of the money offshore for tax reasons and uncle sam's getting them for that (and I still don't see anything wrong with the offshore deal - screw the IRS!)
I guess in my mind it comes down to one thing:
Did UPS payout for damaged insured packages?
If so, then where is the fraud? If you are not happy with where the unused money went, tough shit. If you don't like it - don't pay it.
Or am I missing something - I guess I just don't understand the government and lawyers. Only thing I see (on both sides) is greed.
Uhh??? Huh?
Couldn't that also mean that for they didn't break that much of the stuff that was insured?
Wouldn't that be "The New Bork Bork Bork Times"?
Must be a pretty fscking bad system if it can't just play mp3's.
It seems most of the badmouthing of windows has to do with idiots running boxes.
In addition, the distributor/seller would look at this as one sale that could have potentially been two sales.
That'd be sweet -- then I'd be getting 640kbps for only $33/month! Nice.
:)
And we all know that 640 should be enough for anybody!
Netscape pretty much bites as a navigator.
It is unstable, has a hard time supporting standards for HTML/CSS, and the company seems to be too busy trying to make themselves be a little bit of every one to everything instead of releasing a stable, decent product.
As much as I hated MS's Explorer implentation on HPUX (Here...have our X libraries), it was much more stable. If they released a version for Linux I'd switch to it happily.
While polite, I though that was the whole GNU idea - take the code, do what you want, release it.
Then I weep for tomorrow.
How do you go from a game like Keen, where hardly anything dies and you need to be home by bed to something like Quake?
Damn!!! I was gonna post something like that.
:)
Guess we'll have to name the planet Mondos now
Professor fickleness has nothing to do with the info in those books. The info is still good.
I went to Marist College in Poughkeepsie, NY - which isn't far in any direction from some of the big IBM buildings.
IBM gave the college a 3090 mainframe (top of the line then) just to see what they could do with it. There was a $15 million dollar joint-study, where IBM gave the school PS/2's at cheap prices and all sort of other things.
Now, given we were damned to a Token Ring network, it was still a great bonus for any student there. At a small traditionally liberal arts school, we got to play with stuff that was normally reserved for the bigger schools. I feel that I was able to learn a helluva a lot more without going to a MIT or Cornell, etc... (and a lot cheaper)
However MIT is already pretty far up there as far as technology goes - perhaps this will push them even further - or maybe we'll get an X port of Word. Wow - word on a RISC chip - a 100M executable ?
True - it's very easy to run an application from one under the other.
However, in the case you mentioned, you are running an app written for KDE under gnome. It will not take advantage of any special features gnome apps may have under the gnome desktop.
To do so the app would have to be specifically written to do so. But if you wrote it for Gnome, then it wouldn't take advantage of KDE stuff. Or you could write it for both, requiring both to be installed, and then somehow figure out which desktop is running and morph.
And then there is the whole look/feel issue.
What was asked is if there is a middle ground that would satisfy both - something like AddIconToDesktop which would add make the appropriate API call to either KDE or Gnome.
This has always been the problem with X. Be it simpler toolkits or entire desktop systems, there are just too many choices - be it good or bad.
You can't compile Gnome without gtk, you can't compile kde without qt. If that is not "requires" then I don't know what dictionary you are using :)
Seeing how there will probably be moves that will be submitted by more than one person, simply take the move suggested the most times.
Sure, only one person may suggest the best move in the situation, but the most popular move is the one that best represents the community.
Well, I've played with an Oracle NC and it was terrible.
/. :)
However, MS has the software to get it done...and if they don't they could buy it.
If MS really pushed a NC to the business world as a cheap thing to put on everyones desk, I wonder what that would do to back-end servers. Right now a Linux box can sit behind a windows network just fine because of things like Samba.
But what happens when a MS NC is just a windows terminal...then that pretty much means the server behind it needs to be an NT server. And once one NT server gets in the door, many IS shops will just move everything to NT for the interoperability.
Another way for MS to make sure people buy NT?
Or am I just getting paranoid from too much
Online/virtual courses is not going to make a difference...the requirements are still going to be there...you just get to read a poetry web page instead of sitting in a class.
:), they are getting to be just as good if not better than a bachelor degree. They are an indication that you actually know what would be useful to a company, whereas with a college degree it is a potluck deal.
:)
People say that when you can get the "degree" elsewhere, then things will change. I think that the MCSE, MCSD, CNE, etc... are the very beginnings of this. At least in the computer field, the only one I care about
I graduated with people who now have CS degrees that can't use a computer. You give them some source on a floppy disk and they are confused...if the IDE can't do it for them, they are lost. I remember someone being amazed because a program I did had an option to format a disk. When asked how, I told them I just started a shell and called format. You'd think I had started speaking latin!!!
I still remember college - I guess I'm not that old yet...though I am old enough to think all the current popular music sucks
The good part that I remember is that in the computer science curriculum, we actually learned some theory that was then applied to a real language. In my CS II class (linked lists, binary trees, etc...) we could turn in our assignments in any language we choose, just as long as they did what they should.
The bad parts I remember are:
1) Required core courses...Poetry? Why oh why?
2) Many of my profs hadn't learned much since they got out of school, so my computer architecture class, while still relevant, mainly covered the PDP-11 and it's CPU style. My assembly class was in IBM 370 Assembly.
3) Like the article said - many profs seemed to teach as if research was your ultimate goal. In my networking course, we learned 0% usefull info. Nothing about any real network topologies. We learned about packet collisions and test questions were along the lines of "If you have machine a sending to machine b, with a repeater a x feet, and assuming 30% network usage, how long would it take the packet to go from a to b". We then had to compute electron speed, latency at the repeater, etc...
Real friggin useful!
4) Graduate work. My school required 10 classes at the grad level. While an undergrad, I had taken five courses dually offered. There were a few difference between the way they were taught:
- Computer Graphics : no difference in the material or projects
- Artificial Intelligence : Grads had to do 5 extra pages on the final paper
- Compiler Design : Grads had to implement a for loop...I did it anyway.
- Operating Systems : Grads had to implement something extra - did that too...
- and some fifth one with no difference
Yet, to get a grad degree there, I'd have to retake those courses, or other ones. All the schools care about is one thing - you paying.
flamebait - you sir must have no nostrils. :)
Alas, there is never enough showering going on at the conference (well...at the hotel) because it there are usually quite a bit of smelly geeks.
Other than that it is a bunch of people trying to out-impress the others and dissing microsoft.
Fun fun fun.
Yes...they have students 9 months of the year, plus a week before and after the students come/go.
And during those 8 hour days, they don't get to leave the campus - have to be on duty almost the whole time, and are usually busy with something or another during their "break" and planning time...and since they don't actually get to do any of the work preparing for their classes while at work, they have to spend a lot of (personal) time at home doing this work.
Where the hell do you get your "facts"?
The only fact I've seen is that you are proof that education needs some work.
Yeppp...need that 128MB so they can fit all the easter eggs and other useless features in there.
Oh...don't worry about that bug that'll affect everyone that uses the computer...it'll be fixed (or replaced by another bug) in the next release
Gee...I upgraded my machine to 128MB...not cause I couldn't get something done - but because I could and it would make things better.
So