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If they are a publicly traded company, then they are legally obligated to maximize profit. Yes, even at the expense of your wife and children.
You should study up on your history. I mean,w hy do you think we (the people -- government) allow these entities to exist? FOR THE PUBLIC GOOD. That's why. How is it for the public good for corporations to do things that harm us?
Typical socialist bullcrap. These unions generally negotiate for some sort of standard salary caps REGARDLESS of individual excellence.
That's crap. Unions negotiate for whatever the members want them to. In a manual labor situation where skills are not as relevant as experience they work on seniority because pay goes up over time and companies like to lay off the most senior people.
Many other unions are negotiating creative contracts that reward excellence and incentive.
"Otherwise, you're talking about government mandates, which goes against the whole notion of 'capitalism' you (supposedly) espouse. "
What in the world are you talking about? Government is the people. You're saying that we, the people, as a society, have no right to decide what constraints will be on our economic system? Furthermore, capitalism means that those with capital invest their money for a reurn. What does that have to do with government mandates, or not having unions?
Isn't our economic system supposed to bennefit us? No government mandates? What about government mandates against chopping people up and selling them as fast food? THAT'S a government mandate!
People join unions TO GET PAID MORE, and to GET BENEFITS, and to GET VACATION TIME and SICK TIME. Bonehead.
Where do you think any of us got these befefits from in the first place? FROM UNIONS. Why do you think we have a middle class in this country?
You must be pretty young, to have never lived in a time when there were more workers than jobs. You think the corporations are just going to hand you a good pay rate, benefits, etc... when they can just throw you out and hire someone who will work cheaper?
What do you think is going to happen now that the economy is slowing? You think they are going to stop paying themselves tens of millions a year just so you can make a living wage? HA! Just look at the pay rates at the top of the companies that are laying off now. They are going UP, not down.
Yes, it would have worked--for the real purpose, not for the stated purpose. It wouldn't have caught criminals and terrorists, or at least not those smart enough to even load PGP. But it would have allowed for a lot of spying on everyone naive enough to trust the gov't not to spy on law-abiding people.
OK, as the result of this kind of irrational thinking here we are WITHOUT standardized encryption in all devices. How is this better, as far as the ability of "the government" to listen in on us?
Well, what people suspected at the time (and, actually, what they were planning, according to some quotes in the article), was that after Clipper was widely deployed, legislation would be passed making all other forms of encryption illegal in the US.
This is nutcase stuff. Look at the RESULTS of the anti-Clipper effort. NO ONE is encrypting so "the government" can listen in on anyone they want to. In the meantime there never was any legistation introduced to outlaw encryption...
The CURRENT state is that any government or corporation can listen in on us. THis is what the anti-Clipper effort brought us.
Most of the Slashdotters are missing the point entirely.
Clipper was an attempt by the government TO GET US TO START USING ENCRYPTION!! You HAVE TO have a standard if you are going to put in place a common encryption method. But you also want to know what the holes are. SO the government TOLD US how they would handle the keys. If you are paranoid, you could use your own encryption before the message went into Clipper.
You want to buy your encryption from private corporations and think THEY won't put in holes and be listening in???
Look at the result of the anti-Clipper paranoia. Ten years later still almost NO ONE is encrypting. So anyone we were afraid of listening in IS DOING IT. If I were paranoid I would say that Japanese companies financed the anti-clipper effort.
Anyone who says the anti-trust trial has had any effect or that Microsoft's power is diminished should note that you still can not buy a multi-boot PC, booting Linux and Windows, or BeOS and Windows.
"Giving people handouts don't pull people out of poverity. That's been proven many times during the past few decades. "
Instead of just repeating Republican slogans, how about providing some evidence o back up what you say?
"Local communities pulling together and helping local people who need the help."
Sounds like you don't know much about what the federal programs did. You just described the federal approach that has been in place since the 60's. n The federal government assisted this sort of program.
"what do you think of President Bush's plan for faith-based groups helping their local communities? "
Obviously a plan to pump government money into organizations that will then pump much of the money into Republican campaigns.
I wonder what would happen if Louis Farrakahn put in a proposal for a program for prisons? Would the Republicans approve this? Of course not. It's about helping their friends.
In science theories are supposed to DESCRIBE behaviour.
Free-markets, capitalism, etc... are pseudo-scientific sounding "theories" that say "if only people behaved a certain way, such-and-such would follow."
"Maybe YOU like the government meddling in YOUR affairs, but I would rather chart my own course through life"
Sure you are... Without using any public roads, or drinking any public water... or even having gone to any schools. (Wait, I forgot the Republicans are working on getting rid of the public schools...)
"Just look at Be`s stock price ($1.375 that down 99% from this year`s high), isn`t it a little too low if it really has some big unannounced partners."
The way it is supposed to work, AFTER a company announces something good the stock price goes up. If it goes up before the announcement people can go to jail. (Unless you write a check to the Republican Party and the Supreme Court steps in and saves you.)
"If BeOS wants to compete in this space it should try and build something else than glorified MP3 players:) I can't imagine BeOS/BeIA being useful in an army truck for example. "
You hit the nail on the head. BeIA (not BeOS) is a COMMERCIAL PRODUCT. They are going to MAKE MONEY WITH IT. There are MORE PEOPLE who will be PAYING CUSTOMERS who will want to store their CDs or download music or listen to the radio using this kind of device. There are FEWER PEOPLE, FEWER PAYING CUSTOMERS who drive Army trucks.
(New concepts are presented using capital letters here for the uninitiated.)
"Unless, of course, he believes they're more or less identical."
On every issue that Nader says he cares about, if Bush wins it means losing what Nader says he wants to happen.
Campaign Finance Reform - If Gore wins the McCain Feingold bill will become law. If Bush wins it means the end of any hope for reform because from now on the money decides.
Corporatism - Bush is, as Nader says, a corporation impersonating a person. Electing Bush is electing corporatism.
Global Warming - Gore wants to promote solar and other alternative energy sources. He wants to find alternatives to gasoline engines in cars Bush openly mocks Gore for this, making fun of him at his rallies. He wants to expand oil drilling and eliminate solar and other research.
Environment - What do I need to say - does anyone believe that Gore and Bush are the same on the environment?
IT IS ABOUT GETTING WHAT YOU WANT, NOT ABOUT GETTING WHO YOU WANT
You used quotation marks to falsify his statement. That is dishonest and unethical.
What Gore said, and what should have been in your quotation marks, was "IN THE CONGRESS I took the intiative in creating the Internet." Which is exactly what he did IN THE CONGRESS.
Even Newt Gingrich acknowledges that this is exactly what Gore did.
This is how Bush might win the election - falsifying quotes and lying.
The Electoral College comes from concerns about retaining "local control".
The states wanted to retain some control over the overal direction of the federal government and did not want to be steamrolled by larger states. It's also why we have the Senate.
Governor Bush,
Please give a detailed answer to this question -- one which demonstrates a comprehensive knowledge of the topic.
Well... such an answer to ANY question will do, actually.
How is taking a test to show that you know what you are doing with a gun "virulently anti-gun" and "take away a freedom from otherwise law-abiding citizens"?
You've been reading too many NRA fund-raising letters.
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You should study up on your history. I mean,w hy do you think we (the people -- government) allow these entities to exist? FOR THE PUBLIC GOOD. That's why. How is it for the public good for corporations to do things that harm us?
That's crap. Unions negotiate for whatever the members want them to. In a manual labor situation where skills are not as relevant as experience they work on seniority because pay goes up over time and companies like to lay off the most senior people.
Many other unions are negotiating creative contracts that reward excellence and incentive.
What in the world are you talking about? Government is the people. You're saying that we, the people, as a society, have no right to decide what constraints will be on our economic system? Furthermore, capitalism means that those with capital invest their money for a reurn. What does that have to do with government mandates, or not having unions?
Isn't our economic system supposed to bennefit us? No government mandates? What about government mandates against chopping people up and selling them as fast food? THAT'S a government mandate!
You need to grow up, kid.
People join unions TO GET PAID MORE, and to GET BENEFITS, and to GET VACATION TIME and SICK TIME. Bonehead.
Where do you think any of us got these befefits from in the first place? FROM UNIONS. Why do you think we have a middle class in this country?
You must be pretty young, to have never lived in a time when there were more workers than jobs. You think the corporations are just going to hand you a good pay rate, benefits, etc... when they can just throw you out and hire someone who will work cheaper?
What do you think is going to happen now that the economy is slowing? You think they are going to stop paying themselves tens of millions a year just so you can make a living wage? HA! Just look at the pay rates at the top of the companies that are laying off now. They are going UP, not down.
OK, as the result of this kind of irrational thinking here we are WITHOUT standardized encryption in all devices. How is this better, as far as the ability of "the government" to listen in on us?
This is nutcase stuff. Look at the RESULTS of the anti-Clipper effort. NO ONE is encrypting so "the government" can listen in on anyone they want to. In the meantime there never was any legistation introduced to outlaw encryption...
The CURRENT state is that any government or corporation can listen in on us. THis is what the anti-Clipper effort brought us.
Most of the Slashdotters are missing the point entirely.
Clipper was an attempt by the government TO GET US TO START USING ENCRYPTION!! You HAVE TO have a standard if you are going to put in place a common encryption method. But you also want to know what the holes are. SO the government TOLD US how they would handle the keys. If you are paranoid, you could use your own encryption before the message went into Clipper.
You want to buy your encryption from private corporations and think THEY won't put in holes and be listening in???
Look at the result of the anti-Clipper paranoia. Ten years later still almost NO ONE is encrypting. So anyone we were afraid of listening in IS DOING IT. If I were paranoid I would say that Japanese companies financed the anti-clipper effort.
In 1982 I worked for Nolan Bushnell (previously of Atari) at a company called Axlon on a product just like the one described in the patent.
That's 5 years before this patent.
"Gore won the popular vote by such a scant margin that it's statistically a tie."
The national count has Gore up by over 700,000 votes now.
And the Floria count has him up by over 900, and they just started counting.
Bush is an alcoholic in denial.
Anyone who says the anti-trust trial has had any effect or that Microsoft's power is diminished should note that you still can not buy a multi-boot PC, booting Linux and Windows, or BeOS and Windows.
"Giving people handouts don't pull people out of poverity. That's been proven many times during the past few decades. "
Instead of just repeating Republican slogans, how about providing some evidence o back up what you say?
"Local communities pulling together and helping local people who need the help."
Sounds like you don't know much about what the federal programs did. You just described the federal approach that has been in place since the 60's. n The federal government assisted this sort of program.
"what do you think of President Bush's plan for faith-based groups helping their local communities? "
Obviously a plan to pump government money into organizations that will then pump much of the money into Republican campaigns.
I wonder what would happen if Louis Farrakahn put in a proposal for a program for prisons? Would the Republicans approve this? Of course not. It's about helping their friends.
In science theories are supposed to DESCRIBE behaviour.
Free-markets, capitalism, etc... are pseudo-scientific sounding "theories" that say "if only people behaved a certain way, such-and-such would follow."
Quite a statement. A few rich people should be making the decisions for all of us.
Government is cumbersome because of the requirement for public accountability, public oversight, and PUBLIC AGREEMENT with the decisions made.
Corporations are not democratic, not accountable, and don't give a shit about the good of the overall public.
"Maybe YOU like the government meddling in YOUR affairs, but I would rather chart my own course through life"
Sure you are... Without using any public roads, or drinking any public water... or even having gone to any schools. (Wait, I forgot the Republicans are working on getting rid of the public schools...)
Libertarians are like spoiled children.
"I know some people will cry about Chernobyl, but that incident really just goes to show you the drawbacks of communism, not nuclear power. "
Three Mile Island, bonehead.
Hybrids are not electric. They run on gas, the gas engine charges the battery, and the car gets a huge increase in gas mileage.
Bonehead, emission controls have nothing to do with the amount of CARBON DIOXIDE the cars are putting into the atmosphere.
"Just look at Be`s stock price ($1.375 that down 99% from this year`s high), isn`t it a little too low if it really has some big unannounced partners."
The way it is supposed to work, AFTER a company announces something good the stock price goes up. If it goes up before the announcement people can go to jail. (Unless you write a check to the Republican Party and the Supreme Court steps in and saves you.)
"If BeOS wants to compete in this space it should try and build something else than glorified MP3 players :) I can't imagine BeOS/BeIA being useful in an army truck for example. "
You hit the nail on the head. BeIA (not BeOS) is a COMMERCIAL PRODUCT. They are going to MAKE MONEY WITH IT. There are MORE PEOPLE who will be PAYING CUSTOMERS who will want to store their CDs or download music or listen to the radio using this kind of device. There are FEWER PEOPLE, FEWER PAYING CUSTOMERS who drive Army trucks.
(New concepts are presented using capital letters here for the uninitiated.)
"Unless, of course, he believes they're more or less identical."
On every issue that Nader says he cares about, if Bush wins it means losing what Nader says he wants to happen.
Campaign Finance Reform - If Gore wins the McCain Feingold bill will become law. If Bush wins it means the end of any hope for reform because from now on the money decides.
Corporatism - Bush is, as Nader says, a corporation impersonating a person. Electing Bush is electing corporatism.
Global Warming - Gore wants to promote solar and other alternative energy sources. He wants to find alternatives to gasoline engines in cars Bush openly mocks Gore for this, making fun of him at his rallies. He wants to expand oil drilling and eliminate solar and other research.
Environment - What do I need to say - does anyone believe that Gore and Bush are the same on the environment?
IT IS ABOUT GETTING WHAT YOU WANT, NOT ABOUT GETTING WHO YOU WANT
You used quotation marks to falsify his statement. That is dishonest and unethical.
What Gore said, and what should have been in your quotation marks, was "IN THE CONGRESS I took the intiative in creating the Internet." Which is exactly what he did IN THE CONGRESS.
Even Newt Gingrich acknowledges that this is exactly what Gore did.
This is how Bush might win the election - falsifying quotes and lying.
The Electoral College comes from concerns about retaining "local control".
The states wanted to retain some control over the overal direction of the federal government and did not want to be steamrolled by larger states. It's also why we have the Senate.
Governor Bush, Please give a detailed answer to this question -- one which demonstrates a comprehensive knowledge of the topic. Well... such an answer to ANY question will do, actually.
How is taking a test to show that you know what you are doing with a gun "virulently anti-gun" and "take away a freedom from otherwise law-abiding citizens"?
You've been reading too many NRA fund-raising letters.