Good post, but please re-read my original comment:
Comment #9685295
The (implied) claim made in the original article is that Squeak is as valuable a use of computer time as, say, the entire concept and framework of e-mail. This is clearly not true, no matter how great a learning tool Squeak is.
I'm comparing LOGO and Squeak based on their intended function as visual educational tools for elementary-school children. The fact that Squeak is a Smalltalk dialect is interesting, but not relevant to the point I was trying to make. I'm sorry if it sounded like I had a technical issue with Squeak/Smalltalk.
Seriously. I guess he's never heard of data visualization or business intelligence. That, or he just doesn't care that people actually ARE "creat[ing] computer models of their companies and constantly simulat[ing] potential changes."
I'm not belittling Mr. Kay's work.. Obviously his contributions have been significant. However, the ideas that are actually expressed in this article (not the ones that were old news in 1985) seem entirely vague and "catty". He claims we haven't done anything interesting with PCs in the last week. Arrogance. He does have a product.. He has his reputation as a visionary. In his line of work, that's more important than any software application or widget.
His example: A software package that just looks like the modern equivalent of LOGO. Interesting, sure. Probably lots of fun to play with as a child. More compelling that e-mail or Wikipedia? Please. The article goes to great lengths to discuss how Alan Kay isn't resting on his laurels.. However, most of the comments posted here so far are allowing him to do exactly that!
Another computer visionary with vague promises and criticisms. Instead of doing [insert clearly-defined practical thing here], you should be doing [insert vague semi-buzzword here, like "education", or "object"] and you should be using [insert visionary's product here] to do it.
If every app on your system runs in a separate emulator, then any message-passing between applications (an important feature, to be sure) would be subject to the same sorts of security problems we are now facing.
If everything runs inside one big emulator, then the persistence of that emulator has value to you. Do you want to be forced to close your instant messenger just because you closed your word processor?
As soon as the state of your emulator is something you want to protect, it is no longer disposable, and therefore needs security protection.
Agreed. He works for NetSec, and his best solution is "don't use the Interwebnet.com thingy today, honey"? How about switching your wife to *gasp* a different browser? Also, it's neat that they mention banking sites as prime targets for this attack, but the one site it's safe for his wife to visit is a banking site. Consistency ahoy!
On the other hand, Visual Studio is such an amazingly great product that those who/do/ end up buying it tend to be happy enough to stay. Due to Microsoft's market domination, I doubt they'd gain much developer mindshare by making VS.NET a free download. The Academic version is already only $90, and most businesses don't have much difficulty justifying the cost of the development environment.
If corporations didn't want to be shut down, they'd have a hot meal ready when the FBI gets home from work. The FBI busts its ass earning a paycheck on the factory floor, and THIS is the thanks it gets???
A) The Athlon XP 2000+ and Celeron 2GHz are within 5 dollars of each other on Pricewatch.
B) Most major vendors (including Dell) don't sell Athlons.
C) Celeron has a nice all-in-one chipset with Gigabit onboard, whereas the Athlon XP equivalent is significantly more expensive. (i.e. 8x5 chipsets vs. nForce2)
"God gives us everything. At least that's what I belive. If god does not want us to know something, he won't let us."
"Doing genetic alterations in the womb is something that should not be done and also gene alterations just for better looking kids is a bad thing too."
If we can do it, then clearly God has allowed us to. I thought it was God's job to draw the line. He's told you that retroviral gene therapy is OK, as long as it happens after birth? That's pretty specific for the big guy upstairs. According to your stated belief system, anything that is technically possible is automatically blessed by God. I guess those German gas-chamber technicians were doing God's work.
Yes. The software for everything he mentioned already exists. Personally, I want one because there's no easy way to get CAT5 to where my TiVo sits. I've been dreading cable-snaking through the walls. This solves my problem nicely.
Nobody cares if everyone switches from MP3 to Ogg. Ogg just needs enough popularity to be supported by all the major audio playback applications, and hopefully by various portable "MP3" players as well. Notably, Phillips now includes "Ogg" as one of the choices in the survey they send to beta-testers.
In answer to your question, I've got 350 CDs or so, and I'm mostly through re-ripping them to Ogg files. Also, now that there is a Vorbis DirectShow filter, I've started using it as the audio track in my Divx files.
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Good post, but please re-read my original comment: Comment #9685295
The (implied) claim made in the original article is that Squeak is as valuable a use of computer time as, say, the entire concept and framework of e-mail.
This is clearly not true, no matter how great a learning tool Squeak is.
I'm comparing LOGO and Squeak based on their intended function as visual educational tools for elementary-school children. The fact that Squeak is a Smalltalk dialect is interesting, but not relevant to the point I was trying to make. I'm sorry if it sounded like I had a technical issue with Squeak/Smalltalk.
I'm not talking about Smalltalk. I'm talking about Squeak. RTA.
Seriously. I guess he's never heard of data visualization or business intelligence. That, or he just doesn't care that people actually ARE "creat[ing] computer models of their companies and constantly simulat[ing] potential changes."
I'm not belittling Mr. Kay's work.. Obviously his contributions have been significant. However, the ideas that are actually expressed in this article (not the ones that were old news in 1985) seem entirely vague and "catty". He claims we haven't done anything interesting with PCs in the last week. Arrogance.
He does have a product.. He has his reputation as a visionary. In his line of work, that's more important than any software application or widget.
His example: A software package that just looks like the modern equivalent of LOGO. Interesting, sure. Probably lots of fun to play with as a child. More compelling that e-mail or Wikipedia? Please.
The article goes to great lengths to discuss how Alan Kay isn't resting on his laurels.. However, most of the comments posted here so far are allowing him to do exactly that!
Another computer visionary with vague promises and criticisms.
Instead of doing [insert clearly-defined practical thing here], you should be doing [insert vague semi-buzzword here, like "education", or "object"] and you should be using [insert visionary's product here] to do it.
If every app on your system runs in a separate emulator, then any message-passing between applications (an important feature, to be sure) would be subject to the same sorts of security problems we are now facing.
If everything runs inside one big emulator, then the persistence of that emulator has value to you. Do you want to be forced to close your instant messenger just because you closed your word processor?
As soon as the state of your emulator is something you want to protect, it is no longer disposable, and therefore needs security protection.
A) No software is permanently installed on your hard disk.
B) Check install.log on your hard disk for details.
Haha.
*weep*
Agreed. He works for NetSec, and his best solution is "don't use the Interwebnet.com thingy today, honey"? How about switching your wife to *gasp* a different browser?
Also, it's neat that they mention banking sites as prime targets for this attack, but the one site it's safe for his wife to visit is a banking site. Consistency ahoy!
I'm running Visual Studio 6 and XP SP2 on the same machine. Works for me.
I like sticking my head into the sand, but the grit keeps scratching my sunglasses. Any suggestions?
On the other hand, Visual Studio is such an amazingly great product that those who /do/ end up buying it tend to be happy enough to stay. Due to Microsoft's market domination, I doubt they'd gain much developer mindshare by making VS.NET a free download. The Academic version is already only $90, and most businesses don't have much difficulty justifying the cost of the development environment.
If corporations didn't want to be shut down, they'd have a hot meal ready when the FBI gets home from work. The FBI busts its ass earning a paycheck on the factory floor, and THIS is the thanks it gets???
Saturday Night Special refers to a cheap, poorly-made, easy-to-conceal handgun, not one that has been stolen.
I'd love it if this meant that MS is working functional concepts into its mainstream software.
Check this out:
Microsoft F#
ExtremeTech F# Writeup
Reasons why someone might buy a Celeron:
A) The Athlon XP 2000+ and Celeron 2GHz are within 5 dollars of each other on Pricewatch.
B) Most major vendors (including Dell) don't sell Athlons.
C) Celeron has a nice all-in-one chipset with Gigabit onboard, whereas the Athlon XP equivalent is significantly more expensive. (i.e. 8x5 chipsets vs. nForce2)
Where do I learn more about this, other than the obvious BS in EE option?
Surprise!
OK. Just put a handle on it.
"God gives us everything. At least that's what I belive. If god does not want us to know something, he won't let us."
"Doing genetic alterations in the womb is something that should not be done and also gene alterations just for better looking kids is a bad thing too."
If we can do it, then clearly God has allowed us to. I thought it was God's job to draw the line. He's told you that retroviral gene therapy is OK, as long as it happens after birth? That's pretty specific for the big guy upstairs. According to your stated belief system, anything that is technically possible is automatically blessed by God. I guess those German gas-chamber technicians were doing God's work.
Yes. The software for everything he mentioned already exists.
Personally, I want one because there's no easy way to get CAT5 to where my TiVo sits. I've been dreading cable-snaking through the walls. This solves my problem nicely.
IBM sells this technology. They call it ChipKill.
Perhaps this is what your company is looking for:
ChipKill
Nobody cares if everyone switches from MP3 to Ogg. Ogg just needs enough popularity to be supported by all the major audio playback applications, and hopefully by various portable "MP3" players as well. Notably, Phillips now includes "Ogg" as one of the choices in the survey they send to beta-testers.
In answer to your question, I've got 350 CDs or so, and I'm mostly through re-ripping them to Ogg files. Also, now that there is a Vorbis DirectShow filter, I've started using it as the audio track in my Divx files.
Why don't you link us to a screenshot of your desktop environment?
Note the "at least until it's released" statement.