unfortunately vp8 is old and they never delivered anything we can check, only graphs and stuff.. so is VP8 that good? history showed previous codecs they made were not nearly as good as they claimed.. so we shall see, but i'm quite suspicious
i find it kind of funny, since VP* never delivered their promises and little is really known about VP8 itself. also, no hardware support in mobile devices like h264. In fact the only difference is that its comes from Google really.
in france they want to tax google (obviously paying for traffic wont work, taxing might) this brings money to the gvt, which is controlled by the companies anyways.
Microsoft and zillion others, did kill many, many companies actually. Very few survive and it's never granted what will happen next. Most are new companies actually in that case.
The idea is not to talk to Apple, as they won't read any of these comments (positive or negative, mind you), simply to share ones own ideas with others - that's what we're doing here.
As for why people should be forced to embrace freedom, this is a controversial statement, but i'll take the example of the USA's ideology that they should enforce freedom everywhere and help everyone (yeah i'm simplifying).
I think it's a good thing (not the way they make it happen - or fail to do so, just the idea).
People living in slavery will not realize it, and many will be against it "if they want to be slave let them" "if they want poor living conditions, or die in horrible pain, let them".
Except they do not really choose on their own, they are merely conditioned to accept this choice.
And that, is what my point is all about.
I'll add for the sake of arguing, as I doubt you see through my words anything else than "i must counter-attack":
Should there be a law preventing Apple from selling any device that isn't completely open, free and hackable, and forcing them to include every scrap of source code they've written?
There is a law preventing regular people to hack into closed devices that they own and paid for, that is as ridiculous as the above proposed law. In fact, the above proposed law is not *that* ridiculous. An open device let people ensure it is functioning properly, does no harm and has no hidden problem (nothing much to see with "open source evangelism" here actually) We are accepting this due to the copyright laws and how one should be able to protect his creation and get retribution for it.
I perfectly agree that retribution must be done and have no proposal for it, it is out of the current discussion scope anyway, however the protection goes against "What Is Right" in my mind.
well theres no instance from IE using that little memory while browsing, unless my assumption that you mean Microsoft (R) Internet Explorer (R) is also wrong uh.
yeah that's also why chrome uses so much memory, and also, processes are be nature slightly slower to communicate since you can't just lock and access the memory. In practice however its peanuts, and on Linux its pretty much just as good.
anyways, using subprocesses for plugins makes complete sense. using them for tabs etc are just a way to work around the browser's instability. Rather have quick threads and non buggy code, than people just thinking a plugin went wrong while really, the browser is at fault. (Sure, you only lose the tab in that case, but still).
if they are in a separate process, they can be using a different selinux domain. in fact, I'm already doing this with RSBAC (similar to SeLinux) with the preversions of this "lorentz" since a while. Have been doing it using nspluginwrapper before.
Basically all plugins using the process separation have the separate role/domain (albeit same one) (so, plugins have 1 role/domain, browser another)
firefox is going to do that, for flash and other plugins, in the very near future (it already works in ff 3.7a) however i don't know how it is on mac osx. when i used osx, firefox always felt sluggish etc compared to windows or linux. that was a in the 3.0 days tho.
IE8 cannot be using 30meg, so you're reading it wrong which is easy (no browser uses so little, even with no page loaded, except lynx, w3m, dillo and other such ones). 300 megs is approx average for all browsers with a few dozen big sites open, and actually firefox is generally the one consuming the least memory, especially with multiple tabs open (chrome uses a lot of memory due to the multiple processes)
atm, i have slashdot and some random webpage open in firefox, 87megs. been browsing for 1 or 2h i guess.
you know the funniest part? most people use VLC cause its been touted as that good, to decode their videos. Yep their H264 videos. Oh, especially those Mac OS X people who do not use Perian.
They don't even know, that VLC does not actually support hardware acceleration and the videos are completely CPU decoded.
its rated as funny but its actually correct. if you re-released firefox 3.6+ today with another name and brand and market it as a chrome/ie8/opera killer many, many people would get it and claim how its sending chrome or whatever else to the grave. Don't forget to boost version numbers artificially every 2-4 months and put a download link on the web's most visited search engine with basically zero other links except the search (google.com)
firefox simply implemented an extension that has been around for a while inside the browser. they did not need to code it.
The reason they added those personas, is that chrome has very similar theming system (so, you're going to have to stop using chrome too!) and many users like it. you know, the ones not reading slashdot mainly. It's not useful but anyway, chrome's the reason really. (and personally i don't really mind.. i actually have set a persona somehow)
Except if the majority of users, who do not care at all if their phone runs "open source" software or not, will then buy and iPhone or similar. Then N900's and friends die, and there's only 1 choice (or copies of the same model/choice), using various DRMs, vendor lock-ins, and completely closed environment and they won't even realize there was ever an alternative.
Cause like, DRM's and lockins have proven to be good for the market and the customer right? I mean, FSF and this weirdo hairy dude must be completely wrong after all.
Oh, snap, I thought it was all about ssh and sendmail!
But I deserve free apps with no ads! I'm not sure why I deserve it, or how I can force people to provide what I desire, but I'm gonna whine while I'm not getting my way.
yeahn cause like, if your app is successful, theres just like 95% of the users who want it without ads, and 5% which are the dev themselves who want adverts. Heck, go ahead and tell me you're not using adblock or a similar tool on the web either maybe? Cause yeh they need the money to run all those servers too, you didn't know?
Why do you think everyone else in ANY industry are pre-announcing what they do? Products, goods, actions, whatever..
You need to create the expectation for your information to last long enough. Otherwise, its going to be on the news for 2 days and gone and forgotten even if it was rather sensationalist.
We're at Slashdot, ever thought about Apple's marketing? It's all about that; Rumors, expectations, then a big announcement.. and actual product availability month later. You did not think it was related to their success?
The other points are irrelevant. What wikileaks want, is to share some specific information with the population. To be shared in the fastest and widest way possible, you've to do like the "big boys" and use advertisement tactics. No way around it (unless they discovered aliens exist, maybe).
well im getting close to 100 wpm when running the well known web tests, after a dozen of trials. I think most people who've been using computers for a long time achieve such high typing speeds. Of course there's way faster. I do quite a few mistakes when I achieve nearly 100 but they're like the lucky runs where i made a lot less errors than other runs:P I think it's like that for most. Average real world typing is probably anywhere between 30-40 and 60wpm. When typing very fast however there's a lot of strain on the hands, especially my bones and articulations. At the end of the day Ijust type slower to avoid that. I'd have prefered if the poster mentioned ways to type better/avoid strain. Not that I couldn't google it, but I don't trust very much the 20 different studies giving different view of "whats best" against strain. Also do not wish to change keymap:P
Chromium is NOT Chrome. Read again it is NOT chrome. Chrome is BASED on chromium. Large difference!
Chromium does NOT include the Google privacy features and others. Here is a NON-EXHAUSTIVE list of what Chrome has on top of Chromium: - Google branding and logo's - Google auto-background-update & phone home (necessary for auto-update) - Google's detailled browsing usage analysis and RLZ tracking - Google's own crash report system - H264 codec support (required for Youtube HTML5. Yep, Chromium does NOT work with youtube.)
Hmmmmmmm I guess you haven't heard that those pesky Russians have GPS too and I guess even more annoying to you Yanks is that the the Europeans are nearly there too.
However some other positioning systems are coming up
I guess you haven't taken the time to read all the lines. The european "gps" is called galileo and the russian one glonass.
it depends on the drones remote controlled DYI drones uses analog video (easy to jam) and FHSS UHF radio signals for control (hard to jam, but not that hard. also crackable to get the control) completely independent ones (like the one linked).. i dunno what you're planning, EMP wave? they do not need any ground communication. in fact, they one single weakness: they use GPS for orientation. The USA can disable the GPS whenever necessary. However some other positioning systems are coming up and its not impossible to make them fly to the right location without GPS control, actually, even without any of the satellite based systems, only using sensors and image analysis (tho those aren't as easy and well known at the DYI ones)
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unfortunately vp8 is old and they never delivered anything we can check, only graphs and stuff.. so is VP8 that good? history showed previous codecs they made were not nearly as good as they claimed..
so we shall see, but i'm quite suspicious
i find it kind of funny, since VP* never delivered their promises and little is really known about VP8 itself.
also, no hardware support in mobile devices like h264.
In fact the only difference is that its comes from Google really.
(note that i'd actually prefer theora)
in france they want to tax google (obviously paying for traffic wont work, taxing might)
this brings money to the gvt, which is controlled by the companies anyways.
Microsoft and zillion others, did kill many, many companies actually. Very few survive and it's never granted what will happen next. Most are new companies actually in that case.
The idea is not to talk to Apple, as they won't read any of these comments (positive or negative, mind you), simply to share ones own ideas with others - that's what we're doing here.
As for why people should be forced to embrace freedom, this is a controversial statement, but i'll take the example of the USA's ideology that they should enforce freedom everywhere and help everyone (yeah i'm simplifying).
I think it's a good thing (not the way they make it happen - or fail to do so, just the idea).
People living in slavery will not realize it, and many will be against it "if they want to be slave let them" "if they want poor living conditions, or die in horrible pain, let them".
Except they do not really choose on their own, they are merely conditioned to accept this choice.
And that, is what my point is all about.
I'll add for the sake of arguing, as I doubt you see through my words anything else than "i must counter-attack":
Should there be a law preventing Apple from selling any device that isn't completely open, free and hackable, and forcing them to include every scrap of source code they've written?
There is a law preventing regular people to hack into closed devices that they own and paid for, that is as ridiculous as the above proposed law.
In fact, the above proposed law is not *that* ridiculous. An open device let people ensure it is functioning properly, does no harm and has no hidden problem (nothing much to see with "open source evangelism" here actually)
We are accepting this due to the copyright laws and how one should be able to protect his creation and get retribution for it.
I perfectly agree that retribution must be done and have no proposal for it, it is out of the current discussion scope anyway, however the protection goes against "What Is Right" in my mind.
well theres no instance from IE using that little memory while browsing, unless my assumption that you mean Microsoft (R) Internet Explorer (R) is also wrong uh.
yeah that's also why chrome uses so much memory, and also, processes are be nature slightly slower to communicate since you can't just lock and access the memory. In practice however its peanuts, and on Linux its pretty much just as good.
anyways, using subprocesses for plugins makes complete sense. using them for tabs etc are just a way to work around the browser's instability. Rather have quick threads and non buggy code, than people just thinking a plugin went wrong while really, the browser is at fault. (Sure, you only lose the tab in that case, but still).
if they are in a separate process, they can be using a different selinux domain.
in fact, I'm already doing this with RSBAC (similar to SeLinux) with the preversions of this "lorentz" since a while.
Have been doing it using nspluginwrapper before.
Basically all plugins using the process separation have the separate role/domain (albeit same one) (so, plugins have 1 role/domain, browser another)
firefox is going to do that, for flash and other plugins, in the very near future (it already works in ff 3.7a)
however i don't know how it is on mac osx. when i used osx, firefox always felt sluggish etc compared to windows or linux. that was a in the 3.0 days tho.
chrome has a big marketing engine behind, that's the real difference
IE8 cannot be using 30meg, so you're reading it wrong which is easy (no browser uses so little, even with no page loaded, except lynx, w3m, dillo and other such ones). 300 megs is approx average for all browsers with a few dozen big sites open, and actually firefox is generally the one consuming the least memory, especially with multiple tabs open (chrome uses a lot of memory due to the multiple processes)
atm, i have slashdot and some random webpage open in firefox, 87megs. been browsing for 1 or 2h i guess.
i'm actually using google docs on firefox without any speed issue. i have chrome also, don't feel any difference.
you know the funniest part?
most people use VLC cause its been touted as that good, to decode their videos. Yep their H264 videos. Oh, especially those Mac OS X people who do not use Perian.
They don't even know, that VLC does not actually support hardware acceleration and the videos are completely CPU decoded.
its rated as funny but its actually correct.
if you re-released firefox 3.6+ today with another name and brand and market it as a chrome/ie8/opera killer many, many people would get it and claim how its sending chrome or whatever else to the grave.
Don't forget to boost version numbers artificially every 2-4 months and put a download link on the web's most visited search engine with basically zero other links except the search (google.com)
firefox simply implemented an extension that has been around for a while inside the browser. they did not need to code it.
The reason they added those personas, is that chrome has very similar theming system (so, you're going to have to stop using chrome too!) and many users like it. you know, the ones not reading slashdot mainly. It's not useful but anyway, chrome's the reason really. (and personally i don't really mind.. i actually have set a persona somehow)
Except if the majority of users, who do not care at all if their phone runs "open source" software or not, will then buy and iPhone or similar.
Then N900's and friends die, and there's only 1 choice (or copies of the same model/choice), using various DRMs, vendor lock-ins, and completely closed environment and they won't even realize there was ever an alternative.
Cause like, DRM's and lockins have proven to be good for the market and the customer right? I mean, FSF and this weirdo hairy dude must be completely wrong after all.
Oh, snap, I thought it was all about ssh and sendmail!
But I deserve free apps with no ads! I'm not sure why I deserve it, or how I can force people to provide what I desire, but I'm gonna whine while I'm not getting my way.
yeahn cause like, if your app is successful, theres just like 95% of the users who want it without ads, and 5% which are the dev themselves who want adverts.
Heck, go ahead and tell me you're not using adblock or a similar tool on the web either maybe? Cause yeh they need the money to run all those servers too, you didn't know?
Why do you think everyone else in ANY industry are pre-announcing what they do?
Products, goods, actions, whatever..
You need to create the expectation for your information to last long enough. Otherwise, its going to be on the news for 2 days and gone and forgotten even if it was rather sensationalist.
We're at Slashdot, ever thought about Apple's marketing? It's all about that; Rumors, expectations, then a big announcement.. and actual product availability month later.
You did not think it was related to their success?
The other points are irrelevant. What wikileaks want, is to share some specific information with the population. To be shared in the fastest and widest way possible, you've to do like the "big boys" and use advertisement tactics. No way around it (unless they discovered aliens exist, maybe).
What China should fear is instead the risk of having their connection to the rest of the internet cut off or at least limited.
that's what China actually *wants* to a certain level.
Of course, Google is not the Internet.
well im getting close to 100 wpm when running the well known web tests, after a dozen of trials. I think most people who've been using computers for a long time achieve such high typing speeds. Of course there's way faster. I do quite a few mistakes when I achieve nearly 100 but they're like the lucky runs where i made a lot less errors than other runs :P :P
I think it's like that for most.
Average real world typing is probably anywhere between 30-40 and 60wpm.
When typing very fast however there's a lot of strain on the hands, especially my bones and articulations. At the end of the day Ijust type slower to avoid that. I'd have prefered if the poster mentioned ways to type better/avoid strain. Not that I couldn't google it, but I don't trust very much the 20 different studies giving different view of "whats best" against strain. Also do not wish to change keymap
that's why you pay a good sysadmin (for a lot of money) if you need good security, and don't if you don't.
if your server is important economically or even supports some life saving tools/etc and it doesn't have a good sysadmin, that's your error.
If you get an unimportant server hacked, well, no big deal. Rather that than being disabled or die etc by like.. far.
on the other hand, you probably want 100% of the surgeries to be successful.
In what way is it a scam? There is no scam AFAIK with Iron.
Do you call ADBlock + a scam? Are you Google CEO by any chance?! (yes, it's sarcasm)
Chromium is NOT Chrome. Read again it is NOT chrome. Chrome is BASED on chromium. Large difference!
Chromium does NOT include the Google privacy features and others. Here is a NON-EXHAUSTIVE list of what Chrome has on top of Chromium:
- Google branding and logo's
- Google auto-background-update & phone home (necessary for auto-update)
- Google's detailled browsing usage analysis and RLZ tracking
- Google's own crash report system
- H264 codec support (required for Youtube HTML5. Yep, Chromium does NOT work with youtube.)
source (among others): http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chromium_(web_browser)#Differences_between_Chromium_and_Google_Chrome
the EMP was actually (surprise!) a joke
Hmmmmmmm I guess you haven't heard that those pesky Russians have GPS too and I guess even more annoying to you Yanks is that the the Europeans are nearly there too.
However some other positioning systems are coming up
I guess you haven't taken the time to read all the lines.
The european "gps" is called galileo and the russian one glonass.
it depends on the drones
remote controlled DYI drones uses analog video (easy to jam) and FHSS UHF radio signals for control (hard to jam, but not that hard. also crackable to get the control)
completely independent ones (like the one linked).. i dunno what you're planning, EMP wave?
they do not need any ground communication. in fact, they one single weakness: they use GPS for orientation. The USA can disable the GPS whenever necessary.
However some other positioning systems are coming up and its not impossible to make them fly to the right location without GPS control, actually, even without any of the satellite based systems, only using sensors and image analysis (tho those aren't as easy and well known at the DYI ones)