thats correct.. i already pointed such GPL issues to some device maker.. they just replied in all honesty "i don't care about the license, by the time we're sued - and by that i mean if we're sued - the product will be obsolete so we won't care either"
some even dare to say "free software people would do anything to steal our hard work". and forget that they're usually stealing hard work of thousands (or more) of people by not respecting the license (since they usually use a complete Linux system)
A gun is no more dangerous than a motor vehicle, but that's rather beside the point that I was trying to make. If you visit a foreign country you have to abide by the laws of that jurisdiction. I don't happen to agree with Saudi Arabia's laws regarding women but I wouldn't suggest that my sister fly there and try to rent a car as an act of civil disobedience.....
i disagree. when a country morals are obviously wrong and against human rights, regardless of the laws in place this should not be tolerated or followed or even ignored.
The fact that they are a different country does not matter. Countries are lines drawn by humans. Laws are texts written by humans. Most of this is made for power and control, and little is made for general happiness, safety and freedom. The past hundred years humans tried to change the balance with more or less success.
a gun is made to shoot and does that well and easily, the danger is real and understandable. their usage is controlled, and you can't travel with it, it does not mean you can't use one, but you need a license a place to use it. Same for a car, actually, except you can cross countries boundaries in most cases.
Since a country doesn't have direct file or control access to another, guns are usually forbidden to travel. (for personal travels, of course they still need to be shipped around..)
Now, forbidding manga porn, there's no danger, it does not require a license or special conditions and you can't misuse it physically to kill someone.
You sister should be able to also rent a car. Of course she's not going to do it. I'm not going to bring manga porn to Australia either. But I should be able to and I won't accept those laws just because they're made by another country.
This debate could go on and on but I suppose you get the point even if you don't agree with it.
And that's also why TFA does quite some noise, because it's against most people idea of freedom and most people do not accept it.
There are more automobile-related fatalities in the USA (42,600 in 2004) than firearms-related fatalities (So, actually, motor vehicles are rather more dangerous than guns...
what matter is not the count but the usage the usage of the car compared to the usage of the gun is million.. billions times higher?
everyone has their morale, but i'm pretty sure europeans, australians and americans share this one alike: - a gun is dangerous - a manga with a nude teen poses no threat and not made anyone suffer either
it's like.. lets outlaw pants. if you come with your pants on you'll go to jail. since it's a country wishe it's perfectly ok and must be respected! oh yeah!
in that case its a few k but most todays programs are several thousands or more. i'd like to see a "real" scientist verify every possible thing going on and declare it works in all cases. i mean, in 50 years, when he's actually done. or more, maybe.
>And I really, really hope they won't go for the process per tab like planned. It takes a lot of extra memory for little benefit (IMO).
I agree on that. I love OOPP, but not per-tab processes
yep, the issue is mainly the vast majority of "supporters" who have no idea of the implications, simply "think it sounds cool, google does it and theres a nice cartoon about it" aka drink the kool aid provided by google since it's their technology, and push the developers
oopp is perfect. now if they fix ff startup speed people will feel like its as light and quick as chrome (oh wait, the interface must have a weirdo menu too, feels "lighter"). seriously, when people realize ff uses far less memory than chrome and loads pages just as quick, they complain about the startup speed. somehow understandable, i guess. most of them close the window and reopen ff.
actually it's interesting because the whole product *is* GPL software, distributed or not. That's why if it gets distributed, they have to give the source code.
However the whole argument is, if they remove all previous GPL parts before distributing, it becomes non-GPL software.. or does it? In practice it does not matter I suppose, no one has seen the code distributed thus it's not considered GPL. But legally it would be interesting to know.
yeah.. like everyone.. used to pirate stuff i wasnt sure about and pay games i knew good or previously pirated. just cause i liked having the nice box and support devs etc.
then it changed. games were anyway downloads, so not pirating was just paying to have a quicker download, legit version and support devs... EXCEPT!
- the game actually downloaded far slower than the pirated game - the game actually supports LESS functionality than the pirated game (local lan games usually) - the game was a PAIN to play or have both on my laptop and regular desktop pc (DRM hi!) -the game updates were even more annoying, or linked to stuff like Steam (i just wanna play the game..)
so yeh.. what happens.. most of the time the game's pirated and never paid. like, why pay for a lesser, more annoying version ? i'm going to play it 1 week max anyway if it's not an extremely good online game.
And most of the online games i play are actually free. (i pay2play from time to time, like wwiol.. yep)
oh and hey i know, this has been said thousand times. Just the obligatory gaming-pirating post was missing today.
well i bought a R3 6 years ago. with a R6-9 battery which adds like 1000 mah it reaches 12-13H and its a lot faster than any atom or arm based netbook of course. stock, i had approx 10h
note that this is with 50% brightness, doing basically text and stuff, browsing with wifi is prolly a few hours less give or take
it's a simple task and can do it in 10-20 lines of bash or your favorite scriptable shell language? go ahead there won't be much quicker (usually its more like 3 lines rly) need more than 20 lines or lot of arrays and manipulations? don't do it. use another language. there's many. like python.
ok, i think most of these checks are actually in spamassassin btw and it uses a similar scoring system. still, a "real" greylist on top cut quite a bit of spam, as it checks for something more: "is the remote smtp implementing all standard smtp functionalities"
I have no desire to document it, support it, or in any way promote it.
i hope you realize its what you've just done ^^
nothing wrong with it tho, but understanding what you wrote from the strange config stuff is a bit delicate.
# Our process goes as follows:
# We attempt to get the full host name of the sending host
# If we fail to get it, we apply a penalty
# Then we break down the sending host into either a TLD or an IP address
# We check to see if the sender is existent
# If there is no sender we add a penalty
# We do the DSA test
# If it fails, we add a penalty
# Then we check to see if a record for this host/sender/receiver exists
# If it does not, then we add it with the appropriate penalties
# We then do a GDSA check as always
# If the delay requirement passes and the hit requirement passes, then the e-mail gets through
# Otherwise it is deferred
i'm wondering what is meant by "# We check to see if the sender is existent" warn set acl_m6 = ${eval:$acl_m6 + ${if def:sender_address {0}{1}}}
and that:
# Do the DSA (TLD, sender domain match) test
warn set acl_m6 = ${eval:$acl_m6 + ${if eq{$acl_m1}{$acl_m7}{0}{1}}}
actually you "can". you ditch current email and use an account/certificate based messaging system, where you have to allow peers to contact you (like IM). Then you only receive the spam you've allowed send to send to you.
Worse case, you get spammed by requests, easy to ignore when it's a single case, and will be tracked down and shutdown when its a mass attack, because it will disrupt the system like a DoS would, unlike current spam where you dont *have* to stop it
Now, the quotes on "can" are there because no company is willing to ditch email as it is.
well meetings shouldn't be about spending time with people (that kind of meeting can be done once a year or something and even be optional), meetings should only be there to actually help out the work to be done. otherwise, its pointless. (well, most meetings are pointless if you ask me...)
On the other end, they usually type slowly compared to your average slashdot reader, so even if spoken language is kind of more messy than clear black and white text, especially in the technical world, we end up resolving stuff probably faster over the phone.
i have one in 2 weeks, its 2h30 away from my location, and i have to actually sleep there the day before and stay the next day, i bet i'm back at like 10pm.
during the meeting i will have learned nothing that i don't already know.
what was the question again? oh yeah, meetings suck.
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on 384.59.283.23.666.1 i've support for 3D porn
you're lagging behind!
thats correct.. i already pointed such GPL issues to some device maker.. they just replied in all honesty "i don't care about the license, by the time we're sued - and by that i mean if we're sued - the product will be obsolete so we won't care either"
some even dare to say "free software people would do anything to steal our hard work". and forget that they're usually stealing hard work of thousands (or more) of people by not respecting the license (since they usually use a complete Linux system)
a gun is dangerous
A gun is no more dangerous than a motor vehicle, but that's rather beside the point that I was trying to make. If you visit a foreign country you have to abide by the laws of that jurisdiction. I don't happen to agree with Saudi Arabia's laws regarding women but I wouldn't suggest that my sister fly there and try to rent a car as an act of civil disobedience.....
i disagree. when a country morals are obviously wrong and against human rights, regardless of the laws in place this should not be tolerated or followed or even ignored.
The fact that they are a different country does not matter. Countries are lines drawn by humans. Laws are texts written by humans. Most of this is made for power and control, and little is made for general happiness, safety and freedom. The past hundred years humans tried to change the balance with more or less success.
a gun is made to shoot and does that well and easily, the danger is real and understandable. their usage is controlled, and you can't travel with it, it does not mean you can't use one, but you need a license a place to use it. Same for a car, actually, except you can cross countries boundaries in most cases.
Since a country doesn't have direct file or control access to another, guns are usually forbidden to travel. (for personal travels, of course they still need to be shipped around..)
Now, forbidding manga porn, there's no danger, it does not require a license or special conditions and you can't misuse it physically to kill someone.
You sister should be able to also rent a car. Of course she's not going to do it. I'm not going to bring manga porn to Australia either.
But I should be able to and I won't accept those laws just because they're made by another country.
This debate could go on and on but I suppose you get the point even if you don't agree with it.
And that's also why TFA does quite some noise, because it's against most people idea of freedom and most people do not accept it.
There are more guns than people in the USA.
Their are fewer cars than people in the USA.
There are more automobile-related fatalities in the USA (42,600 in 2004) than firearms-related fatalities (So, actually, motor vehicles are rather more dangerous than guns...
what matter is not the count but the usage
the usage of the car compared to the usage of the gun is million.. billions times higher?
everyone has their morale, but i'm pretty sure europeans, australians and americans share this one alike:
- a gun is dangerous
- a manga with a nude teen poses no threat and not made anyone suffer either
it's like.. lets outlaw pants. if you come with your pants on you'll go to jail. since it's a country wishe it's perfectly ok and must be respected! oh yeah!
in that case its a few k but most todays programs are several thousands or more. i'd like to see a "real" scientist verify every possible thing going on and declare it works in all cases. i mean, in 50 years, when he's actually done. or more, maybe.
>And I really, really hope they won't go for the process per tab like planned. It takes a lot of extra memory for little benefit (IMO).
I agree on that. I love OOPP, but not per-tab processes
yep, the issue is mainly the vast majority of "supporters" who have no idea of the implications, simply "think it sounds cool, google does it and theres a nice cartoon about it" aka drink the kool aid provided by google since it's their technology, and push the developers
oopp is perfect. now if they fix ff startup speed people will feel like its as light and quick as chrome (oh wait, the interface must have a weirdo menu too, feels "lighter"). seriously, when people realize ff uses far less memory than chrome and loads pages just as quick, they complain about the startup speed. somehow understandable, i guess. most of them close the window and reopen ff.
So Firefox is not open anymore?
Talk about FUD, mr Google Closed Chrome.
actually it's interesting because the whole product *is* GPL software, distributed or not. That's why if it gets distributed, they have to give the source code.
However the whole argument is, if they remove all previous GPL parts before distributing, it becomes non-GPL software.. or does it?
In practice it does not matter I suppose, no one has seen the code distributed thus it's not considered GPL. But legally it would be interesting to know.
(copyright is flawed)
yeah.. like everyone.. used to pirate stuff i wasnt sure about and pay games i knew good or previously pirated. just cause i liked having the nice box and support devs etc.
then it changed. games were anyway downloads, so not pirating was just paying to have a quicker download, legit version and support devs...
EXCEPT!
- the game actually downloaded far slower than the pirated game
- the game actually supports LESS functionality than the pirated game (local lan games usually)
- the game was a PAIN to play or have both on my laptop and regular desktop pc (DRM hi!)
-the game updates were even more annoying, or linked to stuff like Steam (i just wanna play the game..)
so yeh.. what happens.. most of the time the game's pirated and never paid. like, why pay for a lesser, more annoying version ?
i'm going to play it 1 week max anyway if it's not an extremely good online game.
And most of the online games i play are actually free. (i pay2play from time to time, like wwiol.. yep)
oh and hey i know, this has been said thousand times. Just the obligatory gaming-pirating post was missing today.
can't mod up so i'll just say "indeed"
that law is already approved
i've yet to see a "clear" mpeg-1 video, sorry!
well i bought a R3 6 years ago. with a R6-9 battery which adds like 1000 mah it reaches 12-13H and its a lot faster than any atom or arm based netbook of course. stock, i had approx 10h
note that this is with 50% brightness, doing basically text and stuff, browsing with wifi is prolly a few hours less give or take
that's a pentium m ulv for the record
well said
or use python so non-perl ppl can still figure out what its doing :P
i find it simple:
it's a simple task and can do it in 10-20 lines of bash or your favorite scriptable shell language? go ahead there won't be much quicker (usually its more like 3 lines rly)
need more than 20 lines or lot of arrays and manipulations? don't do it. use another language. there's many. like python.
that's funny cause i think the treo's OS sucks and the webOS is great. i feel like many share this opinion, not yours o.O
ok, i think most of these checks are actually in spamassassin btw and it uses a similar scoring system.
still, a "real" greylist on top cut quite a bit of spam, as it checks for something more: "is the remote smtp implementing all standard smtp functionalities"
thanks for the details btw
or there will be alien bacterias you when you touch it you die!
I have no desire to document it, support it, or in any way promote it.
i hope you realize its what you've just done ^^
nothing wrong with it tho, but understanding what you wrote from the strange config stuff is a bit delicate.
# Our process goes as follows:
# We attempt to get the full host name of the sending host
# If we fail to get it, we apply a penalty
# Then we break down the sending host into either a TLD or an IP address
# We check to see if the sender is existent
# If there is no sender we add a penalty
# We do the DSA test
# If it fails, we add a penalty
# Then we check to see if a record for this host/sender/receiver exists
# If it does not, then we add it with the appropriate penalties
# We then do a GDSA check as always
# If the delay requirement passes and the hit requirement passes, then the e-mail gets through
# Otherwise it is deferred
i'm wondering what is meant by "# We check to see if the sender is existent"
warn set acl_m6 = ${eval:$acl_m6 + ${if def:sender_address {0}{1}}}
and that:
# Do the DSA (TLD, sender domain match) test
warn set acl_m6 = ${eval:$acl_m6 + ${if eq{$acl_m1}{$acl_m7}{0}{1}}}
it just seems to check if both have a score oO
actually you "can". you ditch current email and use an account/certificate based messaging system, where you have to allow peers to contact you (like IM). Then you only receive the spam you've allowed send to send to you.
Worse case, you get spammed by requests, easy to ignore when it's a single case, and will be tracked down and shutdown when its a mass attack, because it will disrupt the system like a DoS would, unlike current spam where you dont *have* to stop it
Now, the quotes on "can" are there because no company is willing to ditch email as it is.
well meetings shouldn't be about spending time with people (that kind of meeting can be done once a year or something and even be optional), meetings should only be there to actually help out the work to be done.
otherwise, its pointless. (well, most meetings are pointless if you ask me...)
i'm getting that even from 30-ish ppl ;)
On the other end, they usually type slowly compared to your average slashdot reader, so even if spoken language is kind of more messy than clear black and white text, especially in the technical world, we end up resolving stuff probably faster over the phone.
i have one in 2 weeks, its 2h30 away from my location, and i have to actually sleep there the day before and stay the next day, i bet i'm back at like 10pm.
during the meeting i will have learned nothing that i don't already know.
what was the question again? oh yeah, meetings suck.