Yes, credible doubt is a good thing. It means the models are wrong, which in turn suggests our understanding of the problem is incomplete.
Troll mod from someone who disagrees is definitely an undeserved mod.
The problem as I see it, is it isn't even about the science anymore. It has become too politicized. Of course there is climate change, change is after all the only constant. Do we contribute? If so, how much? Likely (IMHO) only a few percentage points. (I do believe we are accelerating an otherwise natural process...I just don't think it is as much as claimed because of the reasons you stated) The models are wrong. Our understanding is incomplete. Yet everyone (on both sides) runs around spouting their 'conclusive proof' while cherry picking the data.
Therefore, I have the upmost respect for someone who can cast credible doubt without standing firmly on one side or the other, as that tells me that person is looking at both sides. Unfortunately those in the middle are largely ignored by the loud, uninformed and politically motivated on both sides.
Business would be perfectly happy returning to 1960's Los Angeles. We used to joke 'what happens when the smog lifts over Los Angeles? UCLA! (I lived there for a time in the 60's....Ugh!) Some regulation is good, too much is an economy killer. No regulation is just as bad (unless your fond of yellow air). But everyone wants it all one way or the other. No compromise, no listening to dissenting opinion, no discussion. AGW has become a disease. It has become a symbol of political divisiveness. It seems to me it's not a fight over actual AGW, it's a fight over regulation. AGW is just the boogeyman to push political interests both ways, much like other non issues like gay marriage. The truth is We Don't Know. Protect my air, water, and food. Don't obstruct growth with needless feel good legislation that accomplishes nothing.
So, how to we take the emotion out of this and have a level intelligent discussion when the ranks of both sides are filled with zealots?
"Install sensors in Abraham lincoln's grave. As he turns in his grave; the direction he chooses to turn will indicate the vote; Aye or Nay."
Oh please, he'll be spinning so fast in the 'nay' direction to be pointless........however, hook a generator up to him and he should be able to power a fair portion of the city......:)
Yep, exactly why I thought this would be the perfect place to test. A lit, configurable roadway in downtown Vegas would fit right in. It might even have some limited usefulness and even if not lights above and below would fit in quite well! And a decent test of durability and maintenence, in a city that already has Fremont street. Might make some cool postcards and tourist attraction.
My feeling is this will not be viable as a road replacement due to the cost and staggering number of roads in the U.S.
However, there exists a place where you maybe could convince the city it would be useful by designating parking, directing traffic to local events, pretty colors.... It would fit this cities image to a tee.
They should try to pave the main drag in.....Las Vegas!
Seriously, It would fit the cities image, could be useful is some ways. Would prove the technology (or not) and give Las Vegas one more thing for the travel brochures.
I stand corrected. The document I followed a link to elsewhere in this forum seems to be linked to an incomplete/unreliable source that did not include the line "followed by a period." My apologies. I believed it to be a genuine link.
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"According to the article, that's negligible. The real problem is the energy people use to go get the DVD at the store. "
Well that's just stupid. I have never gone to the store 'just' to get a DVD. It was always combined with grocery shopping or other trips. (gas, going to a relatives and picking it up en route, etc) All of those trips would of been made regardless of the DVD purchase. I would wager (I know of no specific studies on this, but did not try to find one either) that most DVD's are purchased in this manner. I have ordered some special ones online. Gravity 3D wasn't available locally. If it were, I MIGHT of made a special trip for that one however.
"A very salacious headline, but not very factual."
You're absolutely correct. I can only look at studies like this and think, "False equivalencies."
Actually, that wouldn't be that hard. Trucks are routinely inspected at weigh stations, and in 8 years, I had my seals broken and my loads inspected against my paperwork and re-sealed. It is only a small step to confiscate the load from there.
"Or is it even remotely practical to identify specific package/truck combinations?"
Absolutely. Most load information is in computers on both sides, shipping and receiving, as well as the drayage when it goes local from long haul. The trucking firm, truck number, trailer number and sometimes driver information is all there. The trucks are electronically tracked by dispatch, who in most cases (at least for company owned or leased trucks) will know the location at any given time. So, actually it is very easy to track.
Damn you, spoofing my IP address like that. Fortunately I was at the grocery store when the drone struck, so no loss of life. But damn, did it leave a smoking hole in the ground where my house was. I'm really going to miss my cat.....
Squad, a Mexican marketing company that is creating the Kerbal Space Program game took the day off for Cinco de Mayo in order to take part in the festivities in Mexico City.
Personally, and this is only an opinion. I think the bigger issue will be culture and not any advantages one O/S has over another.
I would suspect there is an appeal to having an expensive, western operating system. I also would conjecture the Chinese aren't dumb and therefore don't trust their government any more than the rest of the world trusts their governments.
Think of it this way, would you use:
A: a government issued (ANY government), government approved (Somehow I just don't believe it would actually be open source, and not chock full of backdoors) LINUX (or rather LINO...LINUX In Name Only to steal from the politicos...)
B: a pirated copy of XP? (Possibly insecure, but hey, I have a good anti virus program, I'll be careful, but take my chances.)
Remember too that most people are users, therefore trust is going to be what they base their decisions on,since the average user would be unable to detect and correct the backdoors that they will likely perceive are there, regardless of if they are or not. They simply won't trust an official release over the one their buddy burned for them.
" he's mentioned that for people with high fevers, they would, if I recall correctly, bathe them in baths of ethyl alcohol filled with ice as an emergency step to try and prevent brain damage"
I had one of those alcohol ice baths when I was 15 in 1974. I was admitted comatose with 105F fever due to tonsillitis. The infection had spread beyond the tonsils. I went from a sore throat to unconscious in less that 10 hours. I was in the intensive care for 5 days. It's crude, but it works.
Yes, credible doubt is a good thing. It means the models are wrong, which in turn suggests our understanding of the problem is incomplete.
Troll mod from someone who disagrees is definitely an undeserved mod.
The problem as I see it, is it isn't even about the science anymore. It has become too politicized. Of course there is climate change, change is after all the only constant. Do we contribute? If so, how much? Likely (IMHO) only a few percentage points. (I do believe we are accelerating an otherwise natural process...I just don't think it is as much as claimed because of the reasons you stated)
The models are wrong. Our understanding is incomplete. Yet everyone (on both sides) runs around spouting their 'conclusive proof' while cherry picking the data.
Therefore, I have the upmost respect for someone who can cast credible doubt without standing firmly on one side or the other, as that tells me that person is looking at both sides. Unfortunately those in the middle are largely ignored by the loud, uninformed and politically motivated on both sides.
Business would be perfectly happy returning to 1960's Los Angeles. We used to joke 'what happens when the smog lifts over Los Angeles? UCLA! (I lived there for a time in the 60's....Ugh!)
Some regulation is good, too much is an economy killer. No regulation is just as bad (unless your fond of yellow air). But everyone wants it all one way or the other. No compromise, no listening to dissenting opinion, no discussion.
AGW has become a disease. It has become a symbol of political divisiveness.
It seems to me it's not a fight over actual AGW, it's a fight over regulation. AGW is just the boogeyman to push political interests both ways, much like other non issues like gay marriage.
The truth is We Don't Know.
Protect my air, water, and food. Don't obstruct growth with needless feel good legislation that accomplishes nothing.
So, how to we take the emotion out of this and have a level intelligent discussion when the ranks of both sides are filled with zealots?
(braces for karma hit....)
O'Reilly Auto Parts to the rescue!
http://www.oreillyauto.com/site/c/detail/EB00/121GMF.oap?keyword=121gmf
http://www.oreillyauto.com/site/c/detail/EB00/121G.oap?keyword=121g
http://www.moddb.com/games/watch-dogs/news/mod-enables-e3-graphics
http://forums.guru3d.com/showthread.php?t=390114
I don't own it yet, waiting for it to go on sale, but I read about this from one of IceHancers recent posts.
I can't vouch for them, but perhaps they will be a good place to start.
It looks interesting, but not compelling enough to pay in at full price.
"Install sensors in Abraham lincoln's grave. As he turns in his grave; the direction he chooses to turn will indicate the vote; Aye or Nay."
....however, hook a generator up to him and he should be able to power a fair portion of the city...... :)
Oh please, he'll be spinning so fast in the 'nay' direction to be pointless....
My wife Skype's with her sister quite a bit. So, in essence, her 17" laptop is a gigantic flip phone....just a tad impractical portability wise....
Weed, lots of weed.
And good beer too.
Any other intoxicant that floats your boat.
Hey, what better reason to party than the Apocalypse?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6J0O0i9AKTU
Yep, exactly why I thought this would be the perfect place to test. A lit, configurable roadway in downtown Vegas would fit right in. It might even have some limited usefulness and even if not lights above and below would fit in quite well!
And a decent test of durability and maintenence, in a city that already has Fremont street. Might make some cool postcards and tourist attraction.
My feeling is this will not be viable as a road replacement due to the cost and staggering number of roads in the U.S.
However, there exists a place where you maybe could convince the city it would be useful by designating parking, directing traffic to local events, pretty colors....
It would fit this cities image to a tee.
They should try to pave the main drag in.....Las Vegas!
Seriously, It would fit the cities image, could be useful is some ways. Would prove the technology (or not) and give Las Vegas one more thing for the travel brochures.
I stand corrected. The document I followed a link to elsewhere in this forum seems to be linked to an incomplete/unreliable source that did not include the line "followed by a period."
My apologies. I believed it to be a genuine link.
Oops, forgot the most important part:
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His TEAS application states:
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So it is PI and not PI with a period.
"give me an option to turn them off completely."
Black nail polish.
Or black electrical tape if you don't want to permanently black them out.
"According to the article, that's negligible. The real problem is the energy people use to go get the DVD at the store. "
Well that's just stupid. I have never gone to the store 'just' to get a DVD. It was always combined with grocery shopping or other trips. (gas, going to a relatives and picking it up en route, etc) All of those trips would of been made regardless of the DVD purchase.
I would wager (I know of no specific studies on this, but did not try to find one either) that most DVD's are purchased in this manner.
I have ordered some special ones online. Gravity 3D wasn't available locally. If it were, I MIGHT of made a special trip for that one however.
"A very salacious headline, but not very factual."
You're absolutely correct. I can only look at studies like this and think, "False equivalencies."
"So they not work with 3 letter federal agencies routinely, but they do it without the prompting of a subpoena, or NLS."
If they discover an illegal shipment and DON'T report it, then they become complicit in it's transport.
Actually, that wouldn't be that hard. Trucks are routinely inspected at weigh stations, and in 8 years, I had my seals broken and my loads inspected against my paperwork and re-sealed.
It is only a small step to confiscate the load from there.
"Or is it even remotely practical to identify specific package/truck combinations?"
Absolutely. Most load information is in computers on both sides, shipping and receiving, as well as the drayage when it goes local from long haul. The trucking firm, truck number, trailer number and sometimes driver information is all there. The trucks are electronically tracked by dispatch, who in most cases (at least for company owned or leased trucks) will know the location at any given time.
So, actually it is very easy to track.
Damn you, spoofing my IP address like that.
Fortunately I was at the grocery store when the drone struck, so no loss of life. But damn, did it leave a smoking hole in the ground where my house was.
I'm really going to miss my cat.....
"In Islam, Sharia law supersedes SANITY."
FTFY
So now we'll know who to blame when they implement this.....
Seriously, I'm surprised this isn't already in practice!
What AAA game release HASN'T started out in the shitter in recent years?
;p
It would be news if it went smoothly.....
Squad, a Mexican marketing company that is creating the Kerbal Space Program game took the day off for Cinco de Mayo in order to take part in the festivities in Mexico City.
Personally, and this is only an opinion. I think the bigger issue will be culture and not any advantages one O/S has over another.
I would suspect there is an appeal to having an expensive, western operating system. I also would conjecture the Chinese aren't dumb and therefore don't trust their government any more than the rest of the world trusts their governments.
Think of it this way, would you use:
A: a government issued (ANY government), government approved (Somehow I just don't believe it would actually be open source, and not chock full of backdoors) LINUX (or rather LINO...LINUX In Name Only to steal from the politicos...)
B: a pirated copy of XP? (Possibly insecure, but hey, I have a good anti virus program, I'll be careful, but take my chances.)
Remember too that most people are users, therefore trust is going to be what they base their decisions on,since the average user would be unable to detect and correct the backdoors that they will likely perceive are there, regardless of if they are or not. They simply won't trust an official release over the one their buddy burned for them.
Just an opinion.
" he's mentioned that for people with high fevers, they would, if I recall correctly, bathe them in baths of ethyl alcohol filled with ice as an emergency step to try and prevent brain damage"
I had one of those alcohol ice baths when I was 15 in 1974. I was admitted comatose with 105F fever due to tonsillitis. The infection had spread beyond the tonsils. I went from a sore throat to unconscious in less that 10 hours.
I was in the intensive care for 5 days.
It's crude, but it works.
...instead of seeing AC and the length and shuddering.
Any more when I see a long AC comment, I frequently scroll past it due to the APK troll.
I'm glad I stopped for just a second. Marvelous comment. Thank you.
Because they rolled a lawful evil character?
Seriously though...you make a good point. It's all more cloak and dagger bullshit.