I really just don't understand this whole 3D movie thing. It's about as interesting as VR gloves in the late 90s; a neat idea, but really nothing but an expensive, impractical gimmick.
I think I'll sit this out until someone invents the Holodeck, or at the very least, makes something that doesn't hurt my eyes or make me wear glasses.
Do you also refuse to buy any product made in China?
This comment isn't necessarily directed at you, but I always love people who use extremist arguments so they don't have to do anything at all. The world isn't black and white and you don't have to boycott all of China overnight to make a difference.
“Merchants have no country. The mere spot they stand on does not constitute so strong an attachment as that from which they draw their gains. “ ---Thomas Jefferson
I didn't say I was happy about Apple's position, morally; just pointing out it's how things are. Trying to bring morality/principals into the issue seems like the submitter is naïve about our reality.
Thankfully, history is full of naive people who refused to accept "how things are" and did something to change reality instead. The complacent are nothing but an anchor holding back human progress...
And yet the/. hive mind seems mostly OK with Steam.
Just to give you some faith, I think Steam is utter crap and will never buy a game from them EVER. I do buy from gog.com though, for the very reason that I only buy things I can own.
Once upon a time, if you had the install media, you could play the game on any hardware capable of running it, even if the company that provided the game had long since dried up and gone away.
Indeed. I'm a game collector with over 2000 games, most complete in their boxes, and I can still play games from as far back as 1979 without any problem. I don't need to "call" anyone for permission to do so either, like on Steam.
they're not doing those things out of the spirit of giving - we pay them.
Likewise, our politicians do nothing for America out of the spirit of giving - we pay them. In fact, not only are they highly paid but they get more state welfare through pensions and healthcare than all illegal immigrants combined.
Lastly, now that we're hovering around 20% underemployment, I'm sure many legal citizens would happily build houses or mow lawns.
I didn't say they wouldn't. Note the use of the word "most" in my post. Even if all 20% did those jobs, my statement would still be accurate.
Funny how people cavalierly dismiss what the law says...until they need it to protect them. The cops are all pigs and tyrants...until it's your home being broken into, your family under attack, you who needs protection under those same laws from those same "tyrants."
Funny how people cavalierly ignore the context of statements as well. The point of Thoreau's quote is that one shouldn't support laws that are unjust, NOT that laws shouldn't be respected at all. Obviously, a law that protects you from criminals who threaten your family is just and should be supported. I'm not sure where you got the idea that I would think otherwise...
We may not like our laws, but we are bound to respect them and it is not legal to enter this country without a visa or citizenship.
"Law never made men a whit more just; and, by means of their respect for it, even the well-disposed are daily made the agents of injustice." ---Henry Thoreau
"Law is often but the tyrant's will, and always so when it violates the rights of the individual." ---Thomas Jefferson
In short, I don't care in the slightest what the law says.
Maybe it sounds callous to you, but screw the people that drain our social support without giving anything back.
Yes, because the millions of illegal immigrants in this country don't give back by building our houses, cleaning our buildings, growing our food, or mowing our lawns for shit wages with no benefits. You know, all the jobs most Americans would never get off their fat asses to do, but nevertheless need to be done. They do more for America than most of the elected representatives in our own government...
we cannot allow a de facto aid package to be sucked out of our hospitals and food pantries and shelters.
But we can allow the government to spend trillions on war and bailing out rich corporations while continually eviscerating our civil liberties? Illegals shouldn't even be on the radar at this point...
Second it would probably be more effective if we made it easier for them to come here LEGALLY
I would go further and say the borders of all countries should be completely open. All people have an intrinsic natural right to travel and just because some tyrant drew an imaginary line in the sand at some point in history doesn't justify the abridgement of said rights. No one should be forced to live in poverty or under tyranny simply by accident of birth.
I feel you, but aren't you blaming the wrong people? The people making the commercials aren't the problems; it's the people running the media you're consuming
You are correct. I am doing so with full knowledge though. I know I can't kill the virus, so I attack the symptoms instead.
I am an advocate of anti-consumerism, so the media companies get no money from me anyway...
So - how much would you be willing to pay to use a search engine that doesn't use advertising to finance their running costs?
I would pay at $10/month for a search engine that was corporate free. Something kind of like Wikipedia where my results are purely information based and where I get no search results from or related to business if I so choose and obviously with no ads.
You're right, how dare websites be economically viable.
The Wallstreet Journal, Slashdot, Google, Youtube, Facebook, and the smaller (and much smaller) websites should be free to view AND advertising free.
None of those sites have anything of intrinsic value. I noted this in the last paragraph of my post.
Take Slashdot as an example. I can get all the news here elsewhere. I am only really here for the community. If slashdot were to fold, the community would simply move somewhere else and I would be typing this in a different forum. What exactly has been lost? It's not like the people here cease to exist because slashdot is gone.
While I share your hate with advertising, Google does none of the things you listed
As has already been noted, Google owns Doubleclick, so you are wrong. I also never said google was responsible for all those things. Re-read my post.
Why would I hate a company that is attempting (and somewhat succeeding) at making something I hate better and offering me excellent things while doing so
Last I checked, my opinion isn't a black hole that sucks the light out of yours. The fact that I dislike google has no bearing on you whatsoever. You are free to do and think whatever you like.
Basically, sounds like you're an angry irrational kid whom can type. Your 'generalized' way of thinking is exactly why endless amounts of 'problems' exist in the world (Racism, for example). Congratulations, moron.
You mean like an angry, irrational kid that can't handle someone else having a different opinion than them, calls them a moron and tries to play the "racist" card through some ridiculous implication?
Google is utterly evil as far as I am concerned. Why? Because they are in league with the worst people in existence: advertisers. Advertisers have ruined just about every great thing I have ever liked.
Remember when magazines had more content than ads? No longer. In fact, they purposefully don't put page numbers on the ad pages so you are forced to page through them to try to find the fucking articles.
Remember when TV shows only had 2 minutes of commercials? Now they have almost 10 minutes or so, and that doesn't include the logos and ticker/pop-up advertisements during the shows themselves...
Remember when cable had no commercials at all?
Remember when radio stations regularly had half hour to hour long blocks of uninterrupted music?
Remember when the internet wasn't a bunch of fucking pop-ups, banners, and flash crap? In fact, remember when the net was more like a library than a TV?
I even remember a time when my e-mail was just that and not a bunch of spam. Besides, my dick is rock hard and I don't want a Rolex so STFU already.
Even Google itself has been getting steadily worse as well over the years with searches returning less and less pertinent results.
I swear, the day a Minority Report type ad assaults me at the mall, I'm going to go postal. I can only take so much before I have to start making ear necklaces out of these bastards.
In every case the product has gotten worse, not better due to advertising influence. You would think with all that income it would be otherwise, but not so.
I've finally blocked google and all their accomplices from my home network to the degree that I am able and I don't care in the slightest if certain sites fail due to lack of advertising income. The internet is like an information based RAID array. Another site will just take their place and fill the void until it too fails and the cycle repeats.
Y'know, that graph closely parallels the average increase of the human lifespan in industrialized societies
No it doesn't. Life expectancy and lifespan are completely different things.
Life expectancy was low historically because of high infant mortality rates which massively drag down the average.
Lifespan OTOH, hasn't changed in several thousand years.
More info here: http://www.livescience.com/health/090821-human-lifespans.html/
It might change your views about why they do what they do and realize that the term "pirate" is little more than a pejorative term for those who don't kowtow to economic imperialism...
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I really just don't understand this whole 3D movie thing. It's about as interesting as VR gloves in the late 90s; a neat idea, but really nothing but an expensive, impractical gimmick.
I think I'll sit this out until someone invents the Holodeck, or at the very least, makes something that doesn't hurt my eyes or make me wear glasses.
Do you also refuse to buy any product made in China?
This comment isn't necessarily directed at you, but I always love people who use extremist arguments so they don't have to do anything at all. The world isn't black and white and you don't have to boycott all of China overnight to make a difference.
You can start by simply using sites like this to guide your purchases: http://www.stillmadeinusa.com/
Not only will you lessen support for China, but you are increasing it for your fellow Americans (assuming you are one).
“Merchants have no country. The mere spot they stand on does not constitute so strong an attachment as that from which they draw their gains. “ ---Thomas Jefferson
I didn't say I was happy about Apple's position, morally; just pointing out it's how things are. Trying to bring morality/principals into the issue seems like the submitter is naïve about our reality.
Thankfully, history is full of naive people who refused to accept "how things are" and did something to change reality instead. The complacent are nothing but an anchor holding back human progress...
And yet the /. hive mind seems mostly OK with Steam.
Just to give you some faith, I think Steam is utter crap and will never buy a game from them EVER. I do buy from gog.com though, for the very reason that I only buy things I can own.
Once upon a time, if you had the install media, you could play the game on any hardware capable of running it, even if the company that provided the game had long since dried up and gone away.
Indeed. I'm a game collector with over 2000 games, most complete in their boxes, and I can still play games from as far back as 1979 without any problem. I don't need to "call" anyone for permission to do so either, like on Steam.
they're not doing those things out of the spirit of giving - we pay them.
Likewise, our politicians do nothing for America out of the spirit of giving - we pay them. In fact, not only are they highly paid but they get more state welfare through pensions and healthcare than all illegal immigrants combined.
Lastly, now that we're hovering around 20% underemployment, I'm sure many legal citizens would happily build houses or mow lawns.
I didn't say they wouldn't. Note the use of the word "most" in my post. Even if all 20% did those jobs, my statement would still be accurate.
Funny how people cavalierly dismiss what the law says...until they need it to protect them. The cops are all pigs and tyrants...until it's your home being broken into, your family under attack, you who needs protection under those same laws from those same "tyrants."
Funny how people cavalierly ignore the context of statements as well. The point of Thoreau's quote is that one shouldn't support laws that are unjust, NOT that laws shouldn't be respected at all. Obviously, a law that protects you from criminals who threaten your family is just and should be supported. I'm not sure where you got the idea that I would think otherwise...
We may not like our laws, but we are bound to respect them and it is not legal to enter this country without a visa or citizenship.
"Law never made men a whit more just; and, by means of their respect for it, even the well-disposed are daily made the agents of injustice." ---Henry Thoreau
"Law is often but the tyrant's will, and always so when it violates the rights of the individual." ---Thomas Jefferson
In short, I don't care in the slightest what the law says.
Maybe it sounds callous to you, but screw the people that drain our social support without giving anything back.
Yes, because the millions of illegal immigrants in this country don't give back by building our houses, cleaning our buildings, growing our food, or mowing our lawns for shit wages with no benefits. You know, all the jobs most Americans would never get off their fat asses to do, but nevertheless need to be done. They do more for America than most of the elected representatives in our own government...
we cannot allow a de facto aid package to be sucked out of our hospitals and food pantries and shelters.
But we can allow the government to spend trillions on war and bailing out rich corporations while continually eviscerating our civil liberties? Illegals shouldn't even be on the radar at this point...
Second it would probably be more effective if we made it easier for them to come here LEGALLY
I would go further and say the borders of all countries should be completely open. All people have an intrinsic natural right to travel and just because some tyrant drew an imaginary line in the sand at some point in history doesn't justify the abridgement of said rights. No one should be forced to live in poverty or under tyranny simply by accident of birth.
I feel you, but aren't you blaming the wrong people? The people making the commercials aren't the problems; it's the people running the media you're consuming
You are correct. I am doing so with full knowledge though. I know I can't kill the virus, so I attack the symptoms instead.
I am an advocate of anti-consumerism, so the media companies get no money from me anyway...
So - how much would you be willing to pay to use a search engine that doesn't use advertising to finance their running costs?
I would pay at $10/month for a search engine that was corporate free. Something kind of like Wikipedia where my results are purely information based and where I get no search results from or related to business if I so choose and obviously with no ads.
You're right, how dare websites be economically viable.
The Wallstreet Journal, Slashdot, Google, Youtube, Facebook, and the smaller (and much smaller) websites should be free to view AND advertising free.
None of those sites have anything of intrinsic value. I noted this in the last paragraph of my post.
Take Slashdot as an example. I can get all the news here elsewhere. I am only really here for the community. If slashdot were to fold, the community would simply move somewhere else and I would be typing this in a different forum. What exactly has been lost? It's not like the people here cease to exist because slashdot is gone.
While I share your hate with advertising, Google does none of the things you listed
As has already been noted, Google owns Doubleclick, so you are wrong. I also never said google was responsible for all those things. Re-read my post.
Why would I hate a company that is attempting (and somewhat succeeding) at making something I hate better and offering me excellent things while doing so
Last I checked, my opinion isn't a black hole that sucks the light out of yours. The fact that I dislike google has no bearing on you whatsoever. You are free to do and think whatever you like.
Basically, sounds like you're an angry irrational kid whom can type. Your 'generalized' way of thinking is exactly why endless amounts of 'problems' exist in the world (Racism, for example). Congratulations, moron.
You mean like an angry, irrational kid that can't handle someone else having a different opinion than them, calls them a moron and tries to play the "racist" card through some ridiculous implication?
Google is utterly evil as far as I am concerned. Why? Because they are in league with the worst people in existence: advertisers. Advertisers have ruined just about every great thing I have ever liked.
Remember when magazines had more content than ads? No longer. In fact, they purposefully don't put page numbers on the ad pages so you are forced to page through them to try to find the fucking articles.
Remember when TV shows only had 2 minutes of commercials? Now they have almost 10 minutes or so, and that doesn't include the logos and ticker/pop-up advertisements during the shows themselves...
Remember when cable had no commercials at all?
Remember when radio stations regularly had half hour to hour long blocks of uninterrupted music?
Remember when the internet wasn't a bunch of fucking pop-ups, banners, and flash crap? In fact, remember when the net was more like a library than a TV?
I even remember a time when my e-mail was just that and not a bunch of spam. Besides, my dick is rock hard and I don't want a Rolex so STFU already.
Even Google itself has been getting steadily worse as well over the years with searches returning less and less pertinent results.
I swear, the day a Minority Report type ad assaults me at the mall, I'm going to go postal. I can only take so much before I have to start making ear necklaces out of these bastards.
In every case the product has gotten worse, not better due to advertising influence. You would think with all that income it would be otherwise, but not so.
I've finally blocked google and all their accomplices from my home network to the degree that I am able and I don't care in the slightest if certain sites fail due to lack of advertising income. The internet is like an information based RAID array. Another site will just take their place and fill the void until it too fails and the cycle repeats.
I screwed up the link. Remove the / at the end of it.
Y'know, that graph closely parallels the average increase of the human lifespan in industrialized societies
No it doesn't. Life expectancy and lifespan are completely different things. Life expectancy was low historically because of high infant mortality rates which massively drag down the average. Lifespan OTOH, hasn't changed in several thousand years. More info here: http://www.livescience.com/health/090821-human-lifespans.html/
Has Obama supported anything with a smaller budget?
Yeah. Your budget. It's now smaller.
And I thought they were going to discuss about the problem with "real" piracy...the pirates operating in the Arabian sea near Somalia
What makes you think the Somali pirates are actually "real" pirates?
Read this: http://www.projectcensored.org/top-stories/articles/3-toxic-waste-behind-somali-pirates/
It might change your views about why they do what they do and realize that the term "pirate" is little more than a pejorative term for those who don't kowtow to economic imperialism...