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DesScorp writes in to let us know about a White House piracy summit, which is going on this afternoon. Judging by the press accounts, the sort of intellectual property criminals they are interested in are large-scale DVD bootleggers, not individual downloaders. "Hollywood once again demonstrates its close ties to Washington DC, regardless of who is in power, with a White House summit on piracy to be attended by the top executives in Hollywood, as well as the music industry. Vice President Joe Biden will be leading the summit to discuss organized cooperation between the federal government and the entertainment industry on all matters of piracy. Also at the summit will be the Obama Administration's new Copyright Czar, Victoria Espinal. The summit comes after Congress has earmarked $30 million dollars of taxpayer funds for anti-piracy efforts." According to one attendee's tweet, the press was kicked out of the meeting around 20:45 GMT.
Amazing how the more things change the more they stay the same, isn't it?
I can't wait to hear all of the partisans who rightfully complained about Dick Cheney's energy task force come out of the woodwork to tell us why this is "different".
I want peace on earth and goodwill toward man.
We are the United States Government! We don't do that sort of thing.
yeah that organized crime commited by pirates is really bad for your nation.
I wonder how many deaths are attributed to copyright infringement each year to warrant a special government interest.
Yeah, this will work. Money well spent gentlemen.
I'm sure the industry has probably made sizable contributions on the political front, exactly for this reason. Judging from the business practices in the past it sure won't stop anytime soon. It makes 'Payola' seem somewhat harmless. Of course that's just my $ 0.02.
Some people are only alive because it's against the law for me to hunt them down and kill them.
I guess the EFF's and other consumer groups' invites must have gotten lost in the mail.
SJW: Someone who has run out of real oppression, and has to fake it.
...they were going to discuss about the problem with "real" piracy.
If anything, this should encourage the pirates operating in the Arabian sea near Somalia: unless they start bootlegging songs and movies, they should be relatively save and Uncle Sam will not go after them.
At least not in a big, coordinated way.
In essence, they, the ship-wrecking, people-killing pirates are a mere nuisance, while copyright-violating pirates mean the end of civilization is near.
Or maybe it's just another episode of "Politicians, lobbyist and the low-hanging fruit - how I learned to ignore the big problems while creating and appearing to solve small and irrelevant ones myself".
Windows 2000 - from the guys who brought us edlin
Yes I trust our goberment in protecting us from ourselves. They have our best interests at heart. They really do.
Hollywood has considered redirecting any significant effort towards people who actually press pirate DVD instead of their own fans? Seriously?
Oh! I see, they want congress to pay for it, they'll keep using their own lawyers on their fans.
It's obviously good if these sorts of large scale industrial pirates are sued for copyright infringement. I'd strongly support a fund that aided small publishers when going up against pirate publishers, especially the largest pirates that are members of the RIAA and MPAA. *But* I simply don't believe these large guys need $30 million in aid for tracking down the large scale pirates.
If anything, the RIAA members should have all their copyrights revoked for abuse, and rights should be restored to the people who created the original works, bypassing the old "work for hire" provisions that Hollywood snuck in.
The Christian religion has been and still is the principal enemy of moral progress in the world. -- Bertrand Russell
As much as I hate the idea that the Federal Government is in the interest of helping the RIAA, it seems that "intellectual property" is just about the only thing left that our country exports. I can understand thinking that it should be a national economic priority if you think in those terms. That doesn't address the reality of the "value" of said property, or its constitutional justification, however.
Rhymes that keep their secrets will unfold behind the clouds.There upon the rainbow is the answer to a neverending story
As we said early on, and have continually been proven right, Information just wants to be free.
And no amount of trying to stop that will end up working in the end.
Restore copyright to 17 years renewable only by the author of the work, remove patent protection for software, and let's get back to creating and away from lining CEO's pockets.
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"Hollywood once again demonstrates its close ties to Washington DC"
should be
"Washington DC once again demonstrates its close ties to Hollywood"
It's your political system that's broken - not Hollywood.
"are interested in are large-scale DVD bootleggers, not individual downloaders [for now]. "
Some days it's just not worth
chewing through my restraints.
Who is representing the consumer's interests? Does any of these people have a grasp on topics such as "fair use" - you know, that thing that the DMCA wasn't supposed to hinder (DMCA sec 1201(C)(1)). Well, I guess some do, but they're the ones trying to destroy that concept.
Reference: http://www.copyright.gov/title17/92chap12.html#1201
DISCLAIMER: This post was not checked for speling and grammar- if you complain- you're a whiner
" the sort of intellectual property criminals they are interested in are large-scale DVD bootleggers, not individual downloaders"
The law won't discriminate. Neither will the lawyers.
If they write it, someone will sue.
deleting the extra space after periods so i can stay relevant, yeah.
Hollywood once again demonstrates its close ties to Washington DC, regardless of who is in power
Industries that generate significant export dollars are guaranteed a hearing in Washington.
Bonus points for cultural exports.
If you are a Brit, ask yourself what the return has been on Sherlock Holmes, The Beatles, James Bond, Harry Potter.
Bonus points for clean industries. Bonus points for tech. Bonus points for skilled labor and labor-intensive industries.
This isn't surprising in the least. Less than two weeks ago they had a workshop for Federal employees on openness in government and it was closed to the public.
Don't forget that Obama promised to have debates on healthcare on C-Span. (google cache)
I’m going to have all the negotiations around a big table,” Obama said. “We’ll have doctors and nurses and hospital administrators. Insurance companies, drug companies — they’ll get a seat at the table, they just won’t be able to buy every chair. But what we’ll do is we’ll have the negotiations televised on C-SPAN, so that people can see who is making arguments on behalf of their constituents and who are making arguments on behalf of drug companies or the insurance companies.
Then he goes on to have closed door meetings with drug companies and insurance companies. Not to mention that he promised to not support any health care bill that forced people to get healthcare.
You'll find very few people here who ever worshiped the Obamassiah. It's no secret that the Dems are just as much in the pocket of the media companies as the Republicans.
As a person who was continually modded down for saying there was (and will be) no difference between Obama and McCain before and during the election I find your statement very funny.
If you have something that you dont want anyone to know, maybe you shouldnt be doing it in the first place -Eric Schmidt
Vice President Joe Biden will be leading the summit to discuss organized cooperation between the federal government and the entertainment industry on all matters of piracy.
You mean this Joe Biden: http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&source=hp&q=joe+biden+plagiarism&aq=0&oq=joe+biden+pl&aqi=g10
Maybe someone will ask Joe the difference between bits in a track and the letters in a book.
Enjoy,
It's just the normal noises in here.
where to drop a bomb to rid us of all of the MPAA Assholes in one shot. It gets the RIAA as well. Sweet.
Except for the fact that Hollywood is a very minor part of the US economy compared to other areas. Intel alone has more revenue than everything Hollywood does. I'd buy this argument if the US economy was relying on Hollywood, but that just isn't the case. The biggest sector of the US economy is still manufacturing (and in fact the US still has the biggest manufacturing sector in the world). When you look at it, the movie and music industry just aren't that big a deal.
So this really isn't based off of need, this isn't a "the government protects this or the economy sinks." This is a case of Hollywood spending lots of money to more or less buy off politicians.
BIDEN:
There is a major difference between issues of theft and counterfeit in the commerce sector versus legitimate use in an educational and personal (non-economic) environment.
YOU STILL FAIL TO MAKE CLEAR THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN THESE CONSTRAINTS, CHOOSING TO SUPPORT ORGANIZED CRIME OVER THE MAJORITY OF THE WORLDS' POPULATION.
I strongly suggest you fix your policy and approach immediately, this is not the first time I've had to call you directly.
http://SHIP.BayWords.com
get back to the oven kikes
perhaps someday privacy will be a concern, in addition to piracy. Until then, use OneSwarm.
Biden:
There is a major difference between issues of theft and counterfeit in the commerce sector versus legitimate use in an educational and personal (non-economic) environment.
YOU STILL FAIL TO MAKE CLEAR THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN THESE CONSTRAINTS, CHOOSING TO SUPPORT ORGANIZED CRIME OVER THE MAJORITY OF THE WORLDS' POPULATION.
I strongly suggest you fix your policy and approach immediately, this is not the first time I've had to call you directly.
And check your pegged budgets: http://ship.baywords.com
Was I the only one who hoped this was an effort to address the real issue of pirates off the coast of Somalia? Millions of dollars in ransoms being funneled into black markets and mafias. That sounds to me like a bigger problem for our security. Somehow that seems like a more important issue for the Federal Government to deal with. You know, provide for the common defense and all. My mistake, its just a power grab by big corporations.
CRIA is a huge violator. I suspect the RIAA is a similar violator. These organizations should be made to pay in full.
http://www.zeropaid.com/news/87347/can-cria-recover-from-the-largest-copyright-infringment-case-in-canadian-history/
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Canadian Recording Industry Association (CRIA) was sued for $6 billion (not $60 billion as initially reported) for commercial copyright infringement. The case was only filed and already, it is seemingly beyond the point of damage control for CRIA. The question is, can CRIA recover from what may be the biggest blunder in its history?
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I can't wait to hear all of the partisans who rightfully complained about Dick Cheney's energy task force come out of the woodwork to tell us why this is "different".
Your wish, it is granted:
Judging by the press accounts, the sort of intellectual property criminals they are interested in are large-scale DVD bootleggers, not individual downloaders.
Well thanks for clearing that up! This copyright summit would never harm you, citizen! It's utterly different than any that have come before because it only goes after lrge scale infringers, or so the spin goes! Ignore the fact Hollywood is attending and we know what they always want.
I'll bet if this were Bush's (or any Republican for that matter) copyright summit, we wouldn't see such a helpful sentence explaining how what these guys are doing is all for the good.
Sorry, but I didn't like large scale expansion of copyright under any administration no matter how much you try to handwave and explain Democrats are all OK in this regard.
"There is more worth loving than we have strength to love." - Brian Jay Stanley
Why settle for the lesser of two evils?
Except most piracy is by their own manufacturing contractors in other countries running a so-called "Third Shift", also known as a "Midnight Shift" or a "Ghost Shift" on the same production lines with the same equipment and workers who were used for the legitimate production of authorized copies. If they kept their manufacturing in their own political jurisdiction, they could expect some enforcement by the politicians they've bought; they don't, and so they have to go to the politicians they own and plead with them to talk to the politicians they don't own.
"He that lieth down with Dogs, shall rise up with Fleas."
- Benjamin Franklin
-- Terry
I'm glad to see that the Obama administration cares about protecting the rights of creators and I hope something positive can come out of this meeting that benefits BOTH sides of the equation. I'm sick and damn tired of hearing stories of insane RIAA lawsuits against teenage girls, but I'm even more tired of watching people take and enjoy the fruits of an artists labor without due respect and compensation.
Copyright doesn't just grant ownership to the creator. It grants him the right to give copies to other people and still tell them what they're allowed to do with them. That is not some inherent right. It requires lots of laws and government infrastructure to make it work. Consequently, even the content creator should not really "own" what he creates. All of us that help pay for the infrastructure to make that work with our taxes deserve a piece of that ownership. That's what the public domain is all about. When they extended Copyright, they robbed many years worth of valuable content from the public that rightly owns it. As one who was blatantly robbed of my rightful property by my government, am I supposed to now be happy about them cracking down on people that copy information? I think not.
Why do we on ./ continue to perpetrate the lie? This is not piracy. It is copyright infringement.
So has the rampant file sharing that is (and has been) going on actually resulted in any significant loss of work for "real people working in these industries"?
From the box office numbers I have been reading about, the industry seems to be thriving along just fine, despite all this "piracy."
Id gladly trade that 'resource' for a plant that made cars, or food... IP wont mean much when we cant actually make anything.
---- Booth was a patriot ----
For the 88th Time:
Piracy is ship to ship armed robbery. Calling copyright infringement piracy makes light of murderous thugs, and makes infringement sound worse than it is. It doesn't even work as a metaphor. When we use their misnomer, they win. Then one of two things will happen. Either infringers will be demonized people sharing 1s and 0s or the word piracy will lose its gravity.
Cue the "langwijiz morf, get/it" crowd.
And yeah, get off my lawn, or whatever other dismissiveness you want to conjure. Disagree all you want, but try to do it without dismissing me as pedantic or a grammar nazi. Try some substance.
Language matters; word choice matters. All actions start as thoughts, thoughts happen in words. By calling a government a regime, we can make overthrowing it more palatable. By calling a person a kike, nigger, rag head, witch etc, we can make them not human, so killing them won't be murder. Hacker was a positive term. The "man" (media, law, etc) has corrupted the word hacker to refer to criminals. It's like calling Nazis German over and over until the word German means Nazi. When we blur the distinction between words we lose expressiveness and have to invent awkward ways to regain specificity that we threw away out of laziness and ignorance. Yeah languages change over time, but there is evolution and there is devolution and corruption. Change is not inherently good.
And stand up for yourselves.
Last time you guys modded this "redundant", let's see if you do better this time!
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The Republican party in the north, the party of Lincoln, was Fiscally Conservative, pro-business, Politically Moderate, and Socially Moderate. They were certainly liberal in the sense that they liberated the black slaves.
When Texas Democratic President Lyndon Johnson signed the voting rights act in 1964, he remarked that it was going to deliver the deep South to the Republican Party for a generation. He underestimated.
The deep South segregationists that now control the Republican Party are only Socially Conservative. They are Politically Liberal (intruding into people's personal decisions) and Fiscally Spendthrifts or corrupt. Newt Gingrich and his fellow 'Movement Republicans' are not actually conservative at all. And I would hold that they are hardly Republican.
Ron Paul is truly Politically Conservative, Fiscally Conservative and Socially Conservative. There are few others like him, but they exist. Joel Hefley of Colorado, perhaps Chuck Hegel of Nebraska. Governor 'Butch' Otter of Idaho. The vast majority of the Republican party are simply pro-business (or more accurately, pro-corporation) proto-fascists. Opportunists. Thieves. Corrupt.
The Democratic Party has evolved into an aimless, populist mob. They currently have no guiding principles. They seem to exist only in reaction to big business and the corrupting influence of money.
Getting back to the article; it seems that piracy has a lot to do with intellectual property similar to software programs. If a person creates a work, it would be better if that person could maintain control over its provenance. This encourages continued production of similar work. China, India and other Wild West type newly minted capitalistic systems care little for hypothetical rights such as intellectual property. With good reason, it's unenforceable.
Best regards.
As Michael Geist points out , these executives owe Canadian musicians 6 billion CA$.....
http://www.thestar.com/business/article/735096--geist-record-industry-faces-liability-over-infringement
No wonder that they need a little strategic "planning" at the white house.
We get two parties to choose from.
Imagine. There are two child care places in your city. One is found to employ pedophiles. Everyone moves their kids to the OTHER child care. It's then found that someone at this child care likes to roast babies and eat them. Everyone moves the kids back to the FIRST child care. Now, someone is found to have fed some babies to their vicious dog. Everyone moves the kids over to the second child care. A kid or two are used in a ritual satanic sacrifice, so people move AGAIN.
And, all the while, the pedos are abusing the kids .....
There's our two party system.
If anything, the RIAA members should have all their copyrights revoked for abuse, and rights should be restored to the people who created the original works, bypassing the old "work for hire" provisions that Hollywood snuck in.
Musical recordings, at least up to now, haven't been accepted as belonging to the enumerated list of types of works which are automatically works for hire if produced for compensation. Except for a very short period of time between Congress messing things up (1999) and its later pressing the "reset button" (2000).
In most cases the artist(s) assign their copyrights to the labels, and this means that soon, starting around 2013, there will be an interesting battle in the Federal courts whether or not the artists can terminate these assignments as stipulated in the 1976 Copyright Act.
See also http://yro.slashdot.org/story/09/11/15/2119230/Copyright-Time-Bomb-Set-To-Go-Off .
According to wikipedia the history of the law that ties Obama into appointing a copyright czar is:
"On 2007-12-05 introduced into the House of Representatives by John Conyers. [3]
On 2008-05-08 the House of Representatives passed the bill 410 to 11. 2008 Presidential candidates Ron Paul and Dennis Kucinich are among those who voted against the bill.[4][5] The Senate bill was S 3325.[6]
On 2008-10-13 President George W. Bush signed the bill into law."
More crap being blamed on Obama yet again on Slashdot? What is with you guys? I'm no Obama fan but I don't blindly point fingers at others either.
There are any number of more pressing matters currently facing our nation and the Obama administration is wasting their time with Hollywood moguls? This demonstrates yet again that the Obama administration has a rather tenuous grasp of what the American people consider to be important. The economy is in the toilet, we are engaged in two major wars (or as they like to call them in the Obama administration, "overseas contingency operations"), and we are still hemorrhaging jobs. In fact, the number one issue with most Americans right now is JOBS. Just about every American either knows someone who has lost their job, fears losing their own, or in fact has already lost it. This has an effect similar to a giant parachute retarding the acceleration of economic growth necessary for a full recovery.
The Obama administration, if it cares at all about its own political survival, has got to stop the bleeding on jobs or their goose will be cooked in the 2010 congressional elections and they can kiss a second term goodbye. I suppose it could be argued that Hollywood does produce some jobs and that copyright infringement does have some effect on those jobs, but any number of industries are both bigger and employ more people than the entertainment industry. The only consolation in this whole affair is that the Vice President, Joe Biden, is chairing the summit (which practically ensures that nothing useful is going to come of it).
The press were kicked out?
Whether you believe in IP or not, it's pretty much the only thing the US still makes that anyone actually wants to buy.
No one wants what few physical goods the US still produces, there's pretty much zero resources export. The US economy is based almost entirely on ideas(IP) and military hardware. Any president, regardless of their political ideology or personal philosophy is going to work very hard to protect that.
In this case the particular lawyers are the Justice Department. Oh my, isn't that convenient?
Help stamp out iliturcy.
He's stuffed the Justice department with RIAA lawyers. I'm not going to agree with him on intellectual property, though I don't dislike his policies generally. I guess you can't have everything. By the time he's out of office this problem seems likely to go away no matter what he does - technology doesn't stop just because media moguls want it to.
Help stamp out iliturcy.
Obama is finally paying attention to piracy? Just a few months ago he didn't care a whit about it. See:
http://www.associatedcontent.com/article/1637109/obamas_somali_pirate_hostage_crisis.html
Oh, you mean "piracy"[sic] not piracy. Sorry, my bad. Now I understand why Obama is so concerned; guns and gonads are not involved in helping save lives where "piracy"[sic] is concerned.
The Christian Right is Neither (Christian nor right). See: Matthew 23, Matthew 25, Ezekiel 16:48-50
Well we'll have OUR OWN MEETINGS, /w black jack, and hookers!
:D
...it bothered me enough to shell out 15 bucks in tribute to Linux and Open Source code:
:P)
...so the next step of "what's important to me???" seemed to be Open Source Government
:D
Seriously tho, "Who is representing the consumer's interests?" is the exact reason I logged in and am gonna get 4 hours of glorious sleep tonight.
I love when I can't HELP logging in b/c of great posts like this. Ya, they cheat to steal votes, they buy whomever wins who didn't cheat. They exclusively listen to lobbyists and corps over their own people.
I believe it's fair these guys get THEIR shot. Their voices heard. It's the exclusiveness that bothers me.
http://www.opensourceg.com/
Just a garbageman who's got a dream. That one day all men's voices will be heard equally. That we will have a vote on EVERY decision THEY get a vote on as 7 billion humans on earth, without color of skin, without nationality, without rich stealing 99% of the vote for the win, every time.
I'm advocating for daily voting, transparency in government, and talk about what people'd vote for WHEN we get a vote.
Voting every 5 years? People still DO THAT? WHY? We both know your vote will be bought 3 days after elections. That's our problem here, it's not Hollywood's fault as another pointed out, it's our govt not being biased for these corps.
Jobs, how small of them to think of that. They'll STILL have work, people will still visit movie theatres. It's basically a tax for putting your stuff public.
Anyways, even if it WAS theft (which it's not, it's copying files) I'd LOVE to see 330,000,000+ people's vote (Mexicans should get a vote too damnit!
Love to see how many wouldn't really CARE that these greedy companies lose money to personal downloads. I bet it's over 50%.
They can have private meetings that all the cool kids aren't allowed to go to. Those cool kids (and all the people sue'd or angry at the industry for it's criminal practices) will be pushed to the enemy camp of freedom, democracy, and P2P file sharing.
Site's been up for 2 weeks, it's getting about 50 hits/day, seen it viewed in the following countries so far:
Canada
USA
Japan
Russia
France
United Kingdom
& China
Now everyone planet wide is getting squashed atm. I don't claim to have a daily voting machine btw, just pushing for one, would love it in open source, somehow online and locked out from double voting, white hats guarding it, black hats attacking it's enemies world wide, and more powerful with people's stats/voting power then any one government.
Well I never got the html skills down nor can I code, I just know Firefox was great for browsing.
Then I found Ubuntu Linux and LOVED IT! (live add/remove programs ROCKS, so does banshee music player)
Love some advise, comments sure would make the site better (my own sandbox no one plays in yet. lmao). I'm also not sure of all the awesome aps or plugins osg COULD have (not even "my" site so much as ANY 3rd part that's NOT the US govt running it, you know, people who still have credibility and public trust)
Soon as someone actually makes it I'll be RIGHT THERE to link to it!
Free SCV
http://www.opensourceg.com - A Man Can Dream
SymbolNOBODY:
You said what's quoted below from you, here -> http://slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=1476008&cid=30428430
"It's tolerated (perhaps encouraged) in part because these annoying actors are otherwised engaged in improving Linux. Major Debian and BSD contributors, for example, use slashdot as a workspace for their human-machine interaction side experiments, of which APK is probably one. In addition many of these trolls post links which, if you follow them, will completely hose a Windows machine. This is part of the game. - by symbolset (646467) on Monday December 14, @01:15AM (#30428430) Journal
I took offense to the BOLDED part... & ALL you EVER seem to have is "ad hominem" based attacks on people, not the points they make. So, my reply in the URL below was simple (and logical):
http://slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=1476008&threshold=-1&commentsort=0&mode=thread&pid=30428430#30430244
Additionally, "symbolNOBODY"? Well - the day you can make something like this (& that got you PAID for it, & that has done as well for others online):
http://www.tcmagazine.com/forums/index.php?s=b861a743aa23c4568b7d73e07ef7ecec&showtopic=2662
That's also gone over 250.000 views worldwide in 1++ yrs.' time online, & across 15 forums where that guide for Windows Security has been made either an:
1.) "Sticky/Pinned" thread
2.) An "Essential Guide"
3.) Rates 5/5 stars (etc.)
AND, gets "feedback" like this from users that have applied it:
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http://www.xtremepccentral.com/forums/showthread.php?t=28430
PERTINENT QUOTE/EXCERPT:
"...recently, months ago when you finally got this guide done, had authorization to try this on simple work station for kids. My client, who paid me an ungodly amount of money to do this, has been PROBLEM FREE FOR MONTHS! I haven't even had a follow up call which is unusual. Now I don't recommend this for the average joe, but it if can work for a kids PC it can work for anything! Now, i substituted OpenDNS and activated the Adult Content filter with them for this kids computer. I know its not perfect, but will catch over 99.5% of said sites."
and
http://www.xtremepccentral.com/forums/showthread.php?s=10f9ba9ad5ff990aaae1e7ec91f593a2&t=28430&page=3
"Its 2009 - still trouble free! I was told last week by a co worker who does active directory administration, and he said I was doing overkill. I told him yes, but I just eliminated the half life in windows that you usually get. He said good point. So from 2008 till 2009. No speed decreases, its been to a lan party, moved around in a move, and it still NEVER has had the OS reinstalled besides the fact I imaged the drive over in 2008. Great stuff! My client STILL Hasn't called me back in regards to that one machine to get it locked down for the kid. I am glad it worked and I am sure her wallet is appreciated too now that it works. Speaking of which, I need to call her to see if I can get some leads. APK - I will say it again, the guide is FANTASTIC! Its made my PC experience much easier. Sandboxing was great. Getting my host file updated, setting services to system service, rather than system local. (except AVG updater, needed system local)"
Thronka - forums member @ xtremepccentral.com
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THEN, when you have done so, on THAT account? THEN, you can talk!
Also?
When you have done all of this as I have over time in this Art & S
SymbolNOBODY:
You said what's quoted below from you, here -> http://slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=1476008&cid=30428430
"It's tolerated (perhaps encouraged) in part because these annoying actors are otherwised engaged in improving Linux. Major Debian and BSD contributors, for example, use slashdot as a workspace for their human-machine interaction side experiments, of which APK is probably one. In addition many of these trolls post links which, if you follow them, will completely hose a Windows machine. This is part of the game. - by symbolset (646467) on Monday December 14, @01:15AM (#30428430) Journal
I took offense to the BOLDED part... & ALL you EVER seem to have is "ad hominem" based attacks on people, not the points they make. So, my reply in the URL below was simple (and logical):
http://slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=1476008&threshold=-1&commentsort=0&mode=thread&pid=30428430#30430244
Additionally, "symbolNOBODY"? Well - the day you can make something like this (& that got you PAID for it, & that has done as well for others online):
http://www.tcmagazine.com/forums/index.php?s=b861a743aa23c4568b7d73e07ef7ecec&showtopic=2662
That's also gone over 250.000 views worldwide in 1++ yrs.' time online, & across 15 forums where that guide for Windows Security has been made either an:
1.) "Sticky/Pinned" thread
2.) An "Essential Guide"
3.) Rates 5/5 stars (etc.)
AND, gets "feedback" like this from users that have applied it:
----
http://www.xtremepccentral.com/forums/showthread.php?t=28430
PERTINENT QUOTE/EXCERPT:
"...recently, months ago when you finally got this guide done, had authorization to try this on simple work station for kids. My client, who paid me an ungodly amount of money to do this, has been PROBLEM FREE FOR MONTHS! I haven't even had a follow up call which is unusual. Now I don't recommend this for the average joe, but it if can work for a kids PC it can work for anything! Now, i substituted OpenDNS and activated the Adult Content filter with them for this kids computer. I know its not perfect, but will catch over 99.5% of said sites."
and
http://www.xtremepccentral.com/forums/showthread.php?s=10f9ba9ad5ff990aaae1e7ec91f593a2&t=28430&page=3
"Its 2009 - still trouble free! I was told last week by a co worker who does active directory administration, and he said I was doing overkill. I told him yes, but I just eliminated the half life in windows that you usually get. He said good point. So from 2008 till 2009. No speed decreases, its been to a lan party, moved around in a move, and it still NEVER has had the OS reinstalled besides the fact I imaged the drive over in 2008. Great stuff! My client STILL Hasn't called me back in regards to that one machine to get it locked down for the kid. I am glad it worked and I am sure her wallet is appreciated too now that it works. Speaking of which, I need to call her to see if I can get some leads. APK - I will say it again, the guide is FANTASTIC! Its made my PC experience much easier. Sandboxing was great. Getting my host file updated, setting services to system service, rather than system local. (except AVG updater, needed system local)"
Thronka - forums member @ xtremepccentral.com
----
THEN, when you have done so, on THAT account? THEN, you can talk!
Also?
When you have done all of this as I have over time in this Art & S
How about $5 off coupons for 15 million people, that way people can pay about $5 per movie - about what they are worth.
Never Compromise
I'm sooooo confused. WTF are you talking about?
It's hard to get modded off topic in a politics thread. The moderator looking to mod people off topic isn't even going to come in here as he'd have to mod almost the entire thread.
Your ggparent post stated that the copyright czar position was created by Congress. It was, and the President has the authority to fill it by appointment but Congress can't compel him to do so any more than they could compel him to appoint members of his cabinet. Your comment:
More crap being blamed on Obama yet again on Slashdot?
Would be correct - the blame is being fixed on President Obama. Unfortunately for the political message you're trying to convey fixing the blame on the Executive is in this case is appropriate. The buck stops there.
My comment goes further to point out that quite topical concerns people have about this Summit are well founded in facts, with citation. This is given as in a dialog where people exchange ideas freely, taking turns working their points of question.
Now, since your post contained the text:
What does this have to do with with my comment? /offtopic
I hope I've cleared up both of those issues for you.
Help stamp out iliturcy.
He likes you, but he's got questions about your post. You should ask for clarification.
Help stamp out iliturcy.
It is obvious from the quote of symbolset's word that symbolset has once again trolled someone and that symbolset said something he can't back up now with anything substantial or provable. Symbolset said that the person he trolled is out to ruin others' windows machines when it looks like he has done anything but that.