It appears that the Orung Asli people that you refer to are in fact 18 different ethnic/tribal groups. I live in the Philippines now - a nation consisting of 7200 islands, so there are many tribes here too. One such group are the Negritos who are related to the Semang Orung Asli (according to wikipedia). Sadly they are also persecuted here. Life expectancy at birth is just 27 years vs the national average of 70.
I was simply pointing out the law, not saying I agreed in any way with a flawed execution, or with the law itself. I thought this would've been obvious. I hate to be the bearer of bad news, but even in countries with a high human development index, the law is not always fair and upheld flawlessly, let alone in newly industrialized nation like Malaysia, which is on the good side of the middle.. The country where I live now is lower down, but that's another story.
That is a lie as anyone with any experience with Malaysia knows.
I lived in Malaysia for a few years, and openly opposed racial and cultural discrimination, even though expressing such views could be dangerous. I still live nearby in another part of SE Asia.
Half a century ago it was a "Legal right" for black men to vote & yet we all know that the entrenched power in southern states refused to respect it.
And the solution to that injustice was to start with the facts: The legal right was there. But there were thousands of other problems to solve before it could mean something. Many of those problems have been solved, and some yet remain. Its a continuum in any part of the world. Newly industrialized nations have somewhat further to go of course.
Professional spin doctor? Dude, you can look me up - I earn my bread writing code.
I was simply stating that addressing the problem of apartheid views/laws might be even more challenging in Malaysia than in South Africa because people tend to be more apologetic to the group that claims a longer cultural tradition. In fact I can think of some other countries where these kinds of views are seen as virtuous, whether or not they're legal. My own birth country is an example, and it makes me reluctant to bring my racially blended family there as I'm not sure it would be great for their well-being. Daily covert racism is not good for self-esteem, especially in the case of children, who are not equipped to deal with it.
Personally, I am completely against such views anywhere, especially if they make it all the way to being ratified in law.
Don't you ever get tired of spreading your lies, jblues??
I have absolutely no interest in defending any government, anywhere. Someone (you?) stated that renouncing Islam in Malaysia is illegal and punishable with life in prison.
I stated there is no such law in Malaysia, (that I know of) and that, according to the law a person can obtain a certificate to renounce Islam as a religion, after which they are free to marry and convert to the faith of their spouse. I also stated that while the law exists, in practice a person seeking such recourse can encounter red-tap, bureaucracy and persecution, as happened to the person you refereed to, and many others.
Just trying to be factual and objective, as I believe this is a necessary prerequisite for making progress. My personal views on Malaysia are simply based on having lived there for a few years. I am completely opposed to the endemic corruption and abhorrent practices by many in positions of power (government). I have many first-hand stories in that regard, but won't share them here as I don't wish to endanger the lives of innocent people involved. Furthermore, I personally believe in complete separation of church/mosque/temple from state. I have no problem with a person deriving their moral compass from Islam, but completely disagree that a person should need to seek state permission to renounce Islam (or any religion), let alone face covert and illegal persecution after having done so. This kind of thing does not belong in the modern world.
When I said that Malaysian's got along with each other and respected each other's culture I was simply making a personal observation based on my own (limited) experience living there. During those years, I socialized with Malaysians from all walks of life and different ethnic groups and was impressed with the way they respected each others cultural backgrounds. The day the two Muslim girls from the office front-desk joyfully erected a Christmas tree is just one of many examples. I was also encouraged that, at a government level, many different religious holidays are officially observed. I took this as a sign that, at a state level some progress was being made and things are not all bad.
This is not different that my having enjoyed socializing with people in the USA, despite not agreeing with all of activities of that government there. I try not go in for black and white thinking - will leave that to religious fundamentalists and anyone else with a covert agenda:)
That is not true. A person wishing to leave Islam in Malaysia may apply for a certificate to do so from the Shariah courts - this is a legal right. In practice attempting to obtain such a certificate can lead to bureaucracy, red-tape and persecution. But a person can't be legally imprisoned for desiring to renounce Islam.
The difference is that in South Africa, European colonists practiced apartheid against the older indigenous racial group. In the case of Malaysia, the laws favor the Malay people and their culture, who have been there for thousands of years, against ethnic Indian and Chinese who have only been there for a mere few hundred. Arguably Malaysia is not the only country with such apartheid cultural views that go all the way to being ratified in one law or another.
Rather than a cultural stir-fry a melting-pot is expected (this reminds me of Australia, in some ways). For example its for easy to convert to the predominant religion of the Malay people (Islam), while its difficult to convert away from Islam to another religion like Buddhism, Hinduism or Christianity. So if an ethnic Chinese or Indian wishes to marry a Malay, they are expected to convert to Islam, and its not allowed for the Malay to convert to the religion of their spouse.
On the other hand in Malaysia (and other SE Asian countries) there does seem to be a lot of general tolerance, peace and understanding between people of different cultural backgrounds. Many, religious holidays (not just one predominant group's) are celebrated, for example.
I created the Wikipedia page on Dr Robert Edgar Hope-Simpson, the feller who originally researched the connection between Vitamin D and influenza in 2007. I was really excited about the possible connection, and this was before more wide-spread interest was initiated by the Pig Flu of 2009. I was living in cloudy Melbourne that year, so jumped in an artificial sun-bed a couple of times that winter. Anyway, I ended up getting the worst flu ever towards the end of the winter. Feverish and bed-bound for five days. My point is. . . . 'dunno.
I lived in a tent for a year - smaller than this thing. But only went in there to sleep or, er, commune with companions. All other activities, including cooking, bathing and so forth were conducted outside, and in beautiful surrounds too. I did six months of temperate zone summer and six of the dry season in the tropics. Wow, that was 20 years ago now.
Let's say a piece of content could have one or more of many traits: funny, interesting, insightful, off-topic, redundant, troll, etc. . . and that funny ones occur about 10% of the time. Correctly selecting funny 55% of the time is "pretty good percentage".
Another one that came fairly early onto the scene was Objective-J, which allows programming browser contained applications in the idiom of Cocoa and Objective-C. I haven't really tried it myself, but it looked like a fun curiosity.
I often find myself under-estimating children's abilities. In this case TFA child's programming, empathy and literature skills are impressive, but their ability to speak such fluent 'customer testimonial' at a young age is simply astounding.
Sounds plausible. Does it have to be wind though? There's also solar, the emerging home battery banks, hydro, geothermal and thorium based nuclear fission and so forth. Hopefully, in future, fusion.
According to Wikipedia we can expect the price of coal to rise and the price of wind to drop, so that they'll meet in the middle within 10 years.
"Grid parity also applies to wind power where it varies according to wind quality and existing distribution infrastructure. ExxonMobil predicts wind power real cost will approach parity with natural gas and coal without carbon sequestration and be cheaper than natural gas and coal with carbon sequestration by 2025.
Wind turbines reached grid parity in some areas of Europe in the mid-2000s, and in the US around the same time. Falling prices continue to drive the levelized cost down and it has been suggested that it has reached general grid parity in Europe in 2010, and will reach the same point in the US around 2016 due to an expected reduction in capital costs of about 12%"
I gave it by 'accident' once (wasn't paying attention) and 3 years later the site is still making suggestions based on that list that was slurped in. I went in and removed the oauth grant, etc, but it ain't forgetting that list having obtained it.
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It's more than difficult, it's illegal. Converting away from Islam in Malaysia is punishable by life in prison.
What are you talking about? The issue is someone stated that its illegal to convert away from Islam in Malaysia. It is not. I corrected that.
You seem like someone who cares about social issues, and that's great. But if you want to help, start with the facts.
Ah right, I stand corrected on that one.
It appears that the Orung Asli people that you refer to are in fact 18 different ethnic/tribal groups. I live in the Philippines now - a nation consisting of 7200 islands, so there are many tribes here too. One such group are the Negritos who are related to the Semang Orung Asli (according to wikipedia). Sadly they are also persecuted here. Life expectancy at birth is just 27 years vs the national average of 70.
I was simply pointing out the law, not saying I agreed in any way with a flawed execution, or with the law itself. I thought this would've been obvious. I hate to be the bearer of bad news, but even in countries with a high human development index, the law is not always fair and upheld flawlessly, let alone in newly industrialized nation like Malaysia, which is on the good side of the middle.. The country where I live now is lower down, but that's another story.
That is a lie as anyone with any experience with Malaysia knows.
I lived in Malaysia for a few years, and openly opposed racial and cultural discrimination, even though expressing such views could be dangerous. I still live nearby in another part of SE Asia.
Half a century ago it was a "Legal right" for black men to vote & yet we all know that the entrenched power in southern states refused to respect it.
And the solution to that injustice was to start with the facts: The legal right was there. But there were thousands of other problems to solve before it could mean something. Many of those problems have been solved, and some yet remain. Its a continuum in any part of the world. Newly industrialized nations have somewhat further to go of course.
Professional spin doctor? Dude, you can look me up - I earn my bread writing code.
I was simply stating that addressing the problem of apartheid views/laws might be even more challenging in Malaysia than in South Africa because people tend to be more apologetic to the group that claims a longer cultural tradition. In fact I can think of some other countries where these kinds of views are seen as virtuous, whether or not they're legal. My own birth country is an example, and it makes me reluctant to bring my racially blended family there as I'm not sure it would be great for their well-being. Daily covert racism is not good for self-esteem, especially in the case of children, who are not equipped to deal with it.
Personally, I am completely against such views anywhere, especially if they make it all the way to being ratified in law.
Don't you ever get tired of spreading your lies, jblues??
I have absolutely no interest in defending any government, anywhere. Someone (you?) stated that renouncing Islam in Malaysia is illegal and punishable with life in prison.
I stated there is no such law in Malaysia, (that I know of) and that, according to the law a person can obtain a certificate to renounce Islam as a religion, after which they are free to marry and convert to the faith of their spouse. I also stated that while the law exists, in practice a person seeking such recourse can encounter red-tap, bureaucracy and persecution, as happened to the person you refereed to, and many others.
Just trying to be factual and objective, as I believe this is a necessary prerequisite for making progress. My personal views on Malaysia are simply based on having lived there for a few years. I am completely opposed to the endemic corruption and abhorrent practices by many in positions of power (government). I have many first-hand stories in that regard, but won't share them here as I don't wish to endanger the lives of innocent people involved. Furthermore, I personally believe in complete separation of church/mosque/temple from state. I have no problem with a person deriving their moral compass from Islam, but completely disagree that a person should need to seek state permission to renounce Islam (or any religion), let alone face covert and illegal persecution after having done so. This kind of thing does not belong in the modern world.
When I said that Malaysian's got along with each other and respected each other's culture I was simply making a personal observation based on my own (limited) experience living there. During those years, I socialized with Malaysians from all walks of life and different ethnic groups and was impressed with the way they respected each others cultural backgrounds. The day the two Muslim girls from the office front-desk joyfully erected a Christmas tree is just one of many examples. I was also encouraged that, at a government level, many different religious holidays are officially observed. I took this as a sign that, at a state level some progress was being made and things are not all bad.
This is not different that my having enjoyed socializing with people in the USA, despite not agreeing with all of activities of that government there. I try not go in for black and white thinking - will leave that to religious fundamentalists and anyone else with a covert agenda :)
That is not true. A person wishing to leave Islam in Malaysia may apply for a certificate to do so from the Shariah courts - this is a legal right. In practice attempting to obtain such a certificate can lead to bureaucracy, red-tape and persecution. But a person can't be legally imprisoned for desiring to renounce Islam.
The difference is that in South Africa, European colonists practiced apartheid against the older indigenous racial group. In the case of Malaysia, the laws favor the Malay people and their culture, who have been there for thousands of years, against ethnic Indian and Chinese who have only been there for a mere few hundred. Arguably Malaysia is not the only country with such apartheid cultural views that go all the way to being ratified in one law or another.
Rather than a cultural stir-fry a melting-pot is expected (this reminds me of Australia, in some ways). For example its for easy to convert to the predominant religion of the Malay people (Islam), while its difficult to convert away from Islam to another religion like Buddhism, Hinduism or Christianity. So if an ethnic Chinese or Indian wishes to marry a Malay, they are expected to convert to Islam, and its not allowed for the Malay to convert to the religion of their spouse.
On the other hand in Malaysia (and other SE Asian countries) there does seem to be a lot of general tolerance, peace and understanding between people of different cultural backgrounds. Many, religious holidays (not just one predominant group's) are celebrated, for example.
Actually the developed world tends to ship their garbage to these parts of the world, and then pretends to be surprised when it ends up in the ocean.
Very useful and interesting, thank you.
I created the Wikipedia page on Dr Robert Edgar Hope-Simpson, the feller who originally researched the connection between Vitamin D and influenza in 2007. I was really excited about the possible connection, and this was before more wide-spread interest was initiated by the Pig Flu of 2009. I was living in cloudy Melbourne that year, so jumped in an artificial sun-bed a couple of times that winter. Anyway, I ended up getting the worst flu ever towards the end of the winter. Feverish and bed-bound for five days. My point is. . . . 'dunno.
Right hand. And I'm left-handed (if that matters).
I lived in a tent for a year - smaller than this thing. But only went in there to sleep or, er, commune with companions. All other activities, including cooking, bathing and so forth were conducted outside, and in beautiful surrounds too. I did six months of temperate zone summer and six of the dry season in the tropics. Wow, that was 20 years ago now.
Let's say a piece of content could have one or more of many traits: funny, interesting, insightful, off-topic, redundant, troll, etc. . . and that funny ones occur about 10% of the time. Correctly selecting funny 55% of the time is "pretty good percentage".
Another one that came fairly early onto the scene was Objective-J, which allows programming browser contained applications in the idiom of Cocoa and Objective-C. I haven't really tried it myself, but it looked like a fun curiosity.
Er, exactly. I was making a joke (maybe not actually funny) about how the testimonial sounded a lot like recited performance and not an improvisation.
I often find myself under-estimating children's abilities. In this case TFA child's programming, empathy and literature skills are impressive, but their ability to speak such fluent 'customer testimonial' at a young age is simply astounding.
Sounds plausible. Does it have to be wind though? There's also solar, the emerging home battery banks, hydro, geothermal and thorium based nuclear fission and so forth. Hopefully, in future, fusion.
According to Wikipedia we can expect the price of coal to rise and the price of wind to drop, so that they'll meet in the middle within 10 years.
"Grid parity also applies to wind power where it varies according to wind quality and existing distribution infrastructure. ExxonMobil predicts wind power real cost will approach parity with natural gas and coal without carbon sequestration and be cheaper than natural gas and coal with carbon sequestration by 2025.
Wind turbines reached grid parity in some areas of Europe in the mid-2000s, and in the US around the same time. Falling prices continue to drive the levelized cost down and it has been suggested that it has reached general grid parity in Europe in 2010, and will reach the same point in the US around 2016 due to an expected reduction in capital costs of about 12%"
That funny feeling you get on your tongue from eating an apple isn't normal. It's a very mild allergy.
Sounds more like an intolerance to me... I wasn't aware a funny feeling on your tongue was an immune response.
Disconnecting the mains supply and removing the battery does the trick for me.
Pedantic: Food allergies that cause mild to moderate discomfort are common. Food allergies that cause sudden anaphylactic shock and death are rare.
I Googled and came up with this comparison of total radiation released:
Fukushima: 900 PBq
Chernobyl: 5,200 PBq
Also maximum radiation detected for Fukushima was 72.9 Sv/h, while for Chernobyl it was 300.
A paper-clip / puppy appears in your room.
It looks like you're still not convinced. I know how that feels, and I'm here to help you. Do you want me to:
"Authoritarian regime"? Isn't the cold war over? Russia is a democratic nation, and not a whole lot more flawed in that regard than present day USA.
I gave it by 'accident' once (wasn't paying attention) and 3 years later the site is still making suggestions based on that list that was slurped in. I went in and removed the oauth grant, etc, but it ain't forgetting that list having obtained it.