it is perfectly reasonable for hundreds of people to know about something and keep their mouths shut, because if they say anything they could face decades in prison.
how stupid of me. i was going on personal experience having spent 15+ hours compiling clang on 3 different architectures. now, while i personally think that what i experienced was valid, and that my estimation of it as being difficult, having been compiling gcc since around 1997, is probably somewhat accurate, you obviously know me better than i know myself. you also can somehow intuit my true experiences which have somehow obviously been scrambled in my brain. when i thought to myself over and over 'oh, is that for 3.0 or... and where exactly is the binary', that was actually a fun sort of adventure, that was actually very easy, and that somehow it was MY fault for interpreting these things wrong. and for going to clang.org wrong. and for reading the official instructions wrong. and for reading bug reports filed by many, many other people - i mean, what do they know? after all, they are not you. . . you who can see into peoples true experiences, and understand that what they thought of as 'difficult' was simply a lie, caused by their own incompetence if nothing else!!!! yes. you, truly, are the savior of clang. thank god you are here on the internet to set poor fools like me correct. poor stupid muzhiks that we are, we need your guidance, we need your holy word, we need your very soul to correct the wrongs of history!
also, the CIA didn't overthrow Mossadegh in a fucking coup to install a fucking dictator who murdered his political opponents with a secret police force in large part so we could have oil. that didn't happen and also no taxpayer dollars were expended to do that.
also our alliance with a bunch of dictators who run slave labor camps and rape brothels (the UAE, Saudi, Kuwait, Qatar) never cost us any taxpayer dollars.
also the massive amounts of environmental damage from petrochemical sites, well, that doesnt cost any taxpayer dollars.
also the massive interstate highway system that was built purposely after pressure from the auto and oil lobies, along with the destruction of the train infrastructure in the US, of course also didnt cost any taxpayer dollars. also all the pavement, which uses petroleum as a primary ingredient, didnt cost any taxpayer dollars.
also the Credit Default Swap, which was a financial instrument created to keep Exxon from going bankrupt after the Valdez spill, may have been sold to the World Bank, but the World Bank doesn't really count as 'government', even though it gets all its funding from governments. . . but anyways.
also the numerous petroleum engineering departments of various colleges and universities spread all over the country do not receive a single penny of taxpayer money, because even though they are 'public universities', well, there is a magic purple unicorn that shits out "Fountainhead dollars" that are magically washed of their 'publicness' before being spent on professorships, buildings, labs, etc.
yes. i am glad that oil is just 100% privately funded, with no government involvement at all.
clang is a lot faster and uses a huge amount less memory than GCC when running. for some projects this is rather important.
gcc has a lot of cross-build chains out there, and a lot of experienced users. but i have never seen a clang->arm cross chain.
clang++ is still using GNU libraries for C++ stuff.
clang is still a pain in the ass to compile, with unclear instructions, and a massive, huge compile time. gcc on the other hand is built by automated scripts quite frequently as part of, for example, cross-toolchain builds.
clang has vastly better error messages than gcc. this is increasingly important with the popularity of huge complex template libraries like boost, eigen, cgal, etc etc etc.
which is why Hoover cut him off and worked with the president to shut down his hearings.
meanwhile the guy who wrote High Noon was chased out of the country, as was the guy who wrote Rise and Fall of the Third Reich, as was t he guy who wrote Threepenny Opera,
"hey kids, our CPU is twice as fast as the next guys!"*
*(you must rewrite your code to do twice as much stuff at once) **(which has been true for like, 15 years ever since SSE + friends made it into the PC market) ***(which means developers have to spend time writing non-portable optimization code)
every computer has to, at some point, convert curves into poly lines. its the nature of the binary number system and the mechanical universe we inhabit. g-code takes floating point input, correct? the stepper motor has a certain resolution. essentially, it is a 3d-grid of pixels just as a 2d screen is made of pixels. in essence, we are back to the old philosophy questions - is there a perfect circle in nature, or is everything a grid that approximates a circle?
i mean i hate to say this, but i know people who have been using a p4 to write open sores software for the past two years and have had dozens of patches accepted to a pretty mainstream project. the project has tens of thousands of downloads so... uhm. yeah.
the only problem they have is lack of RAM , but the clang compiler has helped fix that .
that has been going strong for more than ten years?
you are confusing slashdot commenters with slashdot users. commenters are, in general, a bunch of angry cranks who get a buzz out of spewing bile and hatred through their keyboard. slashdot users generally read the article (or the first sentence or two) and then do something productive with their life.
paywalls do work for some content, otherwise places like the WSJ, slate, etc etc etc, wouldn't use them.
and ebooks are doing a pretty good business on the kindle, nook, etc. even the Kobo survived the demise of Borders.
and microtransactions work perfectly well (too well) in games - theres probably someone in publishing who has noticed this and has implemented/worked on integrating that into a website.
unfortunately if we start doing that, we would realize that a huge number of scientific data are simply falsified, plagiarized, fraudulent, or flat out stupid.
the entire PHD industry would grind to a halt, and the 'part-time adjunct associate staff member intern' would no longer be able to teach all of Calculus 1-3 in front of a hall of 500 students.
after that, the administrators would no longer be able to fuck their secretaries or spend 50,000 dollars putting a pink oval of flowers outside of their window
the entire point of the free software movement and the PC movement is that users should be able to do whatever the hell they want with their machine. they bought it.
it all comes down to a basic ability to put yourself in someone else's shoes, to imagine what their job is like and etc etc. sometimes that can only be obtained by experience, other times by just listening to people...
If you google "Gnu Compile Farm". You can see all the 'inexpensive' boxes they have had donated that went down or had their hosting disappear.
I don't know what their finances are like, but they depend on donated hosting, donated hardware, and donated sysadmin work. Security obviously complicates this - you can't just let anyone who applies be a sysadmin. Hardware from AMD, Intel, IBM, hosting mostly from French groups, and Oregon State. Their Sparc machines are mostly in France.
I spoke soon about the lack of disk space, they recently freed 30GB on their big Sunfire machine. However, they have dozens of people using these things so you can imagine if 4 people try to build some huge project at the same time you can easily run out of space pretty quick.
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it is perfectly reasonable for hundreds of people to know about something and keep their mouths shut, because if they say anything they could face decades in prison.
and the author of XKCD takes a gigantic shit down the mouth of liberal arts on his main page?
but hey, lets not bicker and argue about whose script doesnt actually fucking work and whose does
and what is your point?
how stupid of me. i was going on personal experience having spent 15+ hours compiling clang on 3 different architectures. now, while i personally think that what i experienced was valid, and that my estimation of it as being difficult, having been compiling gcc since around 1997, is probably somewhat accurate, you obviously know me better than i know myself. you also can somehow intuit my true experiences which have somehow obviously been scrambled in my brain. when i thought to myself over and over 'oh, is that for 3.0 or... and where exactly is the binary', that was actually a fun sort of adventure, that was actually very easy, and that somehow it was MY fault for interpreting these things wrong. and for going to clang.org wrong. and for reading the official instructions wrong. and for reading bug reports filed by many, many other people - i mean, what do they know? after all, they are not you. . . you who can see into peoples true experiences, and understand that what they thought of as 'difficult' was simply a lie, caused by their own incompetence if nothing else!!!! yes. you, truly, are the savior of clang. thank god you are here on the internet to set poor fools like me correct. poor stupid muzhiks that we are, we need your guidance, we need your holy word, we need your very soul to correct the wrongs of history!
never had any government subsidies.
also, the CIA didn't overthrow Mossadegh in a fucking coup to install a fucking dictator who murdered his political opponents with a secret police force in large part so we could have oil. that didn't happen and also no taxpayer dollars were expended to do that.
also our alliance with a bunch of dictators who run slave labor camps and rape brothels (the UAE, Saudi, Kuwait, Qatar) never cost us any taxpayer dollars.
also the massive amounts of environmental damage from petrochemical sites, well, that doesnt cost any taxpayer dollars.
also the massive interstate highway system that was built purposely after pressure from the auto and oil lobies, along with the destruction of the train infrastructure in the US, of course also didnt cost any taxpayer dollars. also all the pavement, which uses petroleum as a primary ingredient, didnt cost any taxpayer dollars.
also the Credit Default Swap, which was a financial instrument created to keep Exxon from going bankrupt after the Valdez spill, may have been sold to the World Bank, but the World Bank doesn't really count as 'government', even though it gets all its funding from governments. . . but anyways.
also the numerous petroleum engineering departments of various colleges and universities spread all over the country do not receive a single penny of taxpayer money, because even though they are 'public universities', well, there is a magic purple unicorn that shits out "Fountainhead dollars" that are magically washed of their 'publicness' before being spent on professorships, buildings, labs, etc.
yes. i am glad that oil is just 100% privately funded, with no government involvement at all.
i mean if you dont have a compiler on your system, how do you 'compile' c source code?
clang is a lot faster and uses a huge amount less memory than GCC when running. for some projects this is rather important.
gcc has a lot of cross-build chains out there, and a lot of experienced users. but i have never seen a clang->arm cross chain.
clang++ is still using GNU libraries for C++ stuff.
clang is still a pain in the ass to compile, with unclear instructions, and a massive, huge compile time. gcc on the other hand is built by automated scripts quite frequently as part of, for example, cross-toolchain builds.
clang has vastly better error messages than gcc. this is increasingly important with the popularity of huge complex template libraries like boost, eigen, cgal, etc etc etc.
which is why Hoover cut him off and worked with the president to shut down his hearings.
meanwhile the guy who wrote High Noon was chased out of the country, as was the guy who wrote Rise and Fall of the Third Reich, as was t he guy who wrote Threepenny Opera,
Red Flag and Qomo have huge followings in China. why are they basing on Ubuntu?
"hey kids, our CPU is twice as fast as the next guys!"*
*(you must rewrite your code to do twice as much stuff at once)
**(which has been true for like, 15 years ever since SSE + friends made it into the PC market)
***(which means developers have to spend time writing non-portable optimization code)
every computer has to, at some point, convert curves into poly lines. its the nature of the binary number system and the mechanical universe we inhabit. g-code takes floating point input, correct? the stepper motor has a certain resolution. essentially, it is a 3d-grid of pixels just as a 2d screen is made of pixels. in essence, we are back to the old philosophy questions - is there a perfect circle in nature, or is everything a grid that approximates a circle?
The GNU compile farm provides free build machines for a lot of open source projects. They might be interested.
http://gcc.gnu.org/wiki/CompileFarm
i mean i hate to say this, but i know people who have been using a p4 to write open sores software for the past two years and have had dozens of patches accepted to a pretty mainstream project. the project has tens of thousands of downloads so... uhm. yeah.
the only problem they have is lack of RAM , but the clang compiler has helped fix that .
that has been going strong for more than ten years?
you are confusing slashdot commenters with slashdot users. commenters are, in general, a bunch of angry cranks who get a buzz out of spewing bile and hatred through their keyboard. slashdot users generally read the article (or the first sentence or two) and then do something productive with their life.
paywalls do work for some content, otherwise places like the WSJ, slate, etc etc etc, wouldn't use them.
and ebooks are doing a pretty good business on the kindle, nook, etc. even the Kobo survived the demise of Borders.
and microtransactions work perfectly well (too well) in games - theres probably someone in publishing who has noticed this and has implemented/worked on integrating that into a website.
Just a few more tweaks and it will be ready to take over the market.
I know some young people want this new fangled GGI stuff -- what do they know?
unfortunately if we start doing that, we would realize that a huge number of scientific data are simply falsified, plagiarized, fraudulent, or flat out stupid.
the entire PHD industry would grind to a halt, and the 'part-time adjunct associate staff member intern' would no longer be able to teach all of Calculus 1-3 in front of a hall of 500 students.
after that, the administrators would no longer be able to fuck their secretaries or spend 50,000 dollars putting a pink oval of flowers outside of their window
whats next, calling HP "fleeing the Microsoft Plantation for the underground railroad of Android" ?
uhm.... pretty sure patents have a time limit...
bailout - its the New Capitalism.
the entire point of the free software movement and the PC movement is that users should be able to do whatever the hell they want with their machine. they bought it.
tens of millions of layoffs as "inefficient" workers are replaced by computers.... maybe they should get a hearty welcome to the real world.
oh my. that was a good joke my friend!
it all comes down to a basic ability to put yourself in someone else's shoes, to imagine what their job is like and etc etc. sometimes that can only be obtained by experience, other times by just listening to people...
If you google "Gnu Compile Farm". You can see all the 'inexpensive' boxes they have had donated that went down or had their hosting disappear.
I don't know what their finances are like, but they depend on donated hosting, donated hardware, and donated sysadmin work. Security obviously complicates this - you can't just let anyone who applies be a sysadmin. Hardware from AMD, Intel, IBM, hosting mostly from French groups, and Oregon State. Their Sparc machines are mostly in France.
I spoke soon about the lack of disk space, they recently freed 30GB on their big Sunfire machine. However, they have dozens of people using these things so you can imagine if 4 people try to build some huge project at the same time you can easily run out of space pretty quick.