Hmmm, Only fools and horses characters (brit slant, but very amusing) Philosophers - lots of long names though:-( Plaid and Boards of Canada song names. Local stars - eridani, tau_ceti etc. etc. Gnu people - richard, eric etc. etc. random latin - keeps the PHBs happy. and my personal favorite: porn stars!
I think the thought police are after me though - I was thinking a couple of days ago how cool it would be to swap naming conventions on/. spooky eh?
What precisely is the difference between selling stocks on Ebay and selling them in those cattle market places where everyone has to wear a stupid coloured jacket? I can accept Authorisation/registration arguments, but this IS the internet we're talking about here... Can't the SEC provide a system (preferably open:-) that allows people to determine whether or not a sale is Legal? Surely being able to trade 24/7 is a Good Thing (tm) to those people out there making money off of Stocks?
On a different note, can anyone post an url to a story about the attempted 16-yr old sale?
"Would this have been posted had been any other company than Microsoft running the show?"
Oh, Arse.
I meant to say (drum roll please)
"Would this have been posted had any other company than Microsoft been running the show?" Which when I think about probably sucks grammatically, but I've been writing Perl code all day, and context switching is a bitch sometimes...
So my question is, will it be possible to actually make the Mac version of Mozilla use actual standard Mac controls? Does XUL support this?
IIRC you'll be able to simulate the Mac l&f with XUL. How easy it will be is another story; I'd imagine it will be a non-trivial exercise that requires a significant amount of testing time and debugging effort. If you've got mozilla look at the chrome directory - A quick search using windows explorer turned up 727 files, including directories. So, yes, some time and effort required...
I'm amazed at people's attitude towards issues like this in mozilla. This has been said (probably literally) a thousand times on/. already, but here goes: Mozilla is not a final product yet! I'd imagine that the mozilla crew will spend quite a bit of time polishing it before it gets released to the teeming masses (i.e. us).
Give the guys a chance, OK? I doubt it's easy coming up with a list of innovatations as long as your arm, then implementing it cross-platform
I'd be very careful of accusing anyone of cheating. I think that this is a simple cock-up, probably bought about by a simple "Not My Problem" attitude somewhere along the chain...
Would this have been posted had been any other company than Microsoft running the show? I wonder...
You know it'll get marked down when you start a comment with:
This isn't a flame BUT...
Did anyone watch (and recall) the recent TV series on Bletchley park and the Enigma codebreakers? Didn't one of the later episodes mention a computer that was built before ENIAC?
If I'm wrong, then please correct me, but I was led to believe (by the TV series)that ENIAC was the second electronic computer...
I'd agree with your criticism of the Que and SAMS publishers of this world - I haven't read a book from either of the above publishers on any technical subject and found it any use. (and I've read a lot of technical books)
Are Macmillan trumpeting their contributions to Linux? As long as they continue to just sell Mandrake I don't care (although I assume Mandrake are getting paid for their work, and they are contributing to the community)
I just think that we'll just have to get used to people that want to use Linux, not code it, not spend a large portion of their online life in newsgroups and/. All of the non-technical people I know view computers as a means to an end, not as a hobby or way of life.
Some people won't like the concept of a "Non-Techie" company selling Linux. The more people that use Linux, the less exclusive Linux becomes. It's the same phenomena as the the sports car driver that sells his car when he sees another person driving the same type of sports car.
Personally I think that the more people using Linux, the better. More newbies using things like Gnome or KDE means more usability feedback, which in turn means better applications.
I don't think that more newbies means that the command line should be hidden: When I first started with Slackware and Redhat 4.1 in early 97, I wondered what the hell BASH was. Was I doing something wrong, hence the system wanted to "bash" me? Now of course, I prefer to do most stuff from the command line, like editing the xfs config files to add a truetype directory... Although I must admit I'd prefer it to be done for me, and for those sorts of functions to be grouped in some kind of windows-like control panel (with nice icons, etc, I detest Linuxconf)
The more people that use Linux regularly, the more likely it is that we'll get stuff like quicktime at the same time as other platforms. The more people not using windows, the better the web and computing in general becomes. (Even the worst MS-loving PHB won't want to drive 60% of customers away from an "e-commerce" (blech) web site by making it IE specific if IE is proven to be installed on only 40% of computers)
The fact that the MacMillan books tell people quite a lot about Linux should be helpful. Hopefully the whole clueless factor of newbies will decrease. (I was one, and O'Reilly's Running Linux was a godsend)
I like AD&D and fantasy novels primarily because they allow me to use my imagination. While I was blown away by the Matrix, I don't think this film will have the same effect. I'd imagine that my concept of a transforming or protecting type spell is quite different from the film makers.
When I used to play D&D, what mattered to me was that it was part of a greater social context, not a "who can cast the best spell" kind of thing. I wonder whether the film will be able to capture the interaction between the characters that made playing so much fun.
Post-Matrix... I hope the director doesn't go for a wachowski (sp?) clone. While a full on acrobatic/martial arts fantasy battle would be cool, it could so easily look very, very cheesy. And remember, we're going to be inundated by Matrix clones over the next year or so. (I have a bad feeling about X-Men degenerating into something like this)
Ah well, I hope the director really surprises me. Deep down I want this film to make me drool like a 1 month old baby...
The graphical setup runs at 60Hz. This is murder on my eyes. By the time I finished the installation (see below) I had a migraine from the flickering. Yes, I know that VGA@60Hz is the lowest common denominator. Personally I would have preferred the choice of installing using the old setup application.
The graphical setup. I wanted to customise which packages got installed. It took ages, even longer than my other pet hate custom installation, SUSE. I didn't figure out a way to select more than one package or directory for installation at a time, so I had to click through each folder and package manually. I hope next time RHAT add alphabetical listing of packages, proper key navigation and multi select of packages. I'd also like the package installation to show how much space I'm going to use on each drive I have if I've spread my partitions across drives.
Disclaimer I am NOT flaming or trolling here. These are my opinions, not incontrovertible fact.
I suppose I'm p*ssed of that I forgot to select the WindowMaker package:-(
That the Ig Noble prizes have just been handed out; this seems like a prime contender...
Not to say that the research is worthless, just as the biscuit dunking research could lead to new insights into starch liquid absorption. Demonstrating a new technology/algorithm with a lego bridge reinforces the general public's idea that science is somehow trivial (the "Wacky Boffins" view)
I wear a rather strange lens combination in my spectacles: -1 in my right eye, +4 in my left. I also have astigmatism (sp?) which complicates matters.
So how will I see this screen properly? Will the screen have to have some kind of lens attachment?
Some posts mention direct retinal projection as a way of viewing the screen, pretty cool, huh? What would be really great is if I could build one of these into my current spectacles and not look like I've visited locutus of borg's optician...
But being able to read/. on the walk home? V. Cool.
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I don't want free calls, I want unmetered calls.
That is, I want to pay a flat rate per month or quarter. I can then use the net for whatever I want, whenever I want. How many UK/.'ers wait for the 6pm price change before dialling?
Note for US readers: In the UK, BT charges 4 pence a minute between 8am and 6pm on weekdays, 1.5 pence per minute between 6pm and 8am on weekdays and 1 penny per minute at weekends
Oh, and hasn't anyone noticed that this model is popular with customers? No, You could only make this statement if there was an umetered alternative available. IMHO, if there was, people would drop BT faster than you could say "monthly charge."
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Are you trolling?
it's one of those poor people one reads about Do you have to mock someone because of their personal wealth? If you feel you have to, then you have my sympathies.
Metered telephone calls suck so much
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I really hate the stupid attitude by Britain's own arrogant monopoly, BT.
First they charge obscene amounts for ISDN, then we're informed that they will do the same for ADSL.
I simply can't afford either ISDN or ADSL, and that prevents me from doing everything I want to online; Which could be starting up a new business or simply checking the news
I can think of 3 different reasons for BT's attitude to the net:
BT want's to make as much money as possible
BT's management, like most UK directors, are completely clueless about the possibilities of the net
BT knows that eventually the net destroy most of their business and are acting to put off the inevitable
I'd imagine that not too many Americans surf with one eye on the connection time. I tend to think "can I download this new sourcecode, nope that'll cost too much"
:-(
Metered Calls suck, ISDN costs too much and ADSL's price will be astronomical. Welcome to 18th century Britain...
If you are "jacked in" and have the sum of human knowledge accessible to you as memory (not manual retrievel, but simply *already* knowing it) and experience the wildest fantasies imaginable, then what precisely will we do?
Will we live for pleasure, forever flipping between more and more exotic porn sessions and ever more fantastic scifi fantasy role-plays? Who wouldn't want to lose themselves in a truly believable Elite scenario?
Or will we live for pure research? Medical, IT, Space or Physics? Like Hell we will
Could you imagine the vast numbers of couch potatoes doing anything other than spending 24 hours inline? (yes, inline, copyright me, friday afternoon just back from the pub) I can't. Will it get to the point where everyone with a modicum of intelligence is obliated under law to maintain the system for the vast, stupid majority? Simply having the sum of human knowledge available isn't enough; you need to be motivated to actually use it.
What sort of people will grow up in this kind of society? Spoilt rotten retards probably.
Who'll pay for all this? You can bet that the likes of the big entertainment companies must be salivating at the prospect of a subscription from everyone on the planet.
What happens to capitalism when noone wants to buy material goods because they can have anything online?
What's the point of living like someone in those pods depicted in the Matrix?
Will anyone spend any time in real life? How many/. readers spend more time socialising offline than online? Show someone the wonders and splendour of jacked-in cyberspace and tell them they can have it 24/7 if they sign over 40% of their brain to MS for use as distributed processing and they would jump at the chance. Everything I want for free? Fantastic, I don't think. (in fact most people won't think)
It'll be a morlock/eloi hell. Don't try to tell me otherwise.
Seriously, dude... just say something to her. Ask her out or something. Maybe she is waiting for you to ask her. The worst she'll do is to say no.
I'm sure a few guys can relate to this. When I see her, I break out in a cold sweat (and, no, spraying head to toe with anti-persperant doesn't help;-). My stomach does back flips, my vision blurs and my IQ drops from maybe 150 to about 30. Everytime I turn a corner in a corridor or walk into the canteen and see her, I'm always laughing or grimacing or doing something that makes me look like the elephant man.
I know lines are "bad" but the best thing I can think of to say is "Hello, I like girls" in my best Igor voice (the igor voice would be unintentional, but guaranteed)
And, why do I get on really great with girls who are already attached?
I think Homer Simpson put it best (misquote) "But Marge, women have curves and voices that drive us crazy!"
Do you geek grrls know what effect you have on us guys?
The single young geekguys I know all have unrealistic expectations of beauty. They tend to watch porn/tv/movies where girls are "enhanced" by computers/surgery/hours of makeup|exercise or selected by simple casting. Said guys then have difficulty relating to real girls (she's not liv tyler therefore she's not a great girl). Said guys then talk to girls even less and watch porn/tv/movies even more.
Vicious circle.
Typical conversation:
ME: have you talked to that girl yet? OTHER GEEK GUY: no way! (shuffles feet nervously). Have you seen the latest FHM? Gail Porter is lush.
However, talk about pot calling kettle black. There's a gorgeous geek girl working for our Y2K team, but can I pluck up enough courage to talk to her? (the answer rhymes with "hoe")
Slashdot Mirror
Hmmm, :-(
/. spooky eh?
Only fools and horses characters (brit slant, but very amusing)
Philosophers - lots of long names though
Plaid and Boards of Canada song names.
Local stars - eridani, tau_ceti etc. etc.
Gnu people - richard, eric etc. etc.
random latin - keeps the PHBs happy.
and my personal favorite: porn stars!
I think the thought police are after me though - I was thinking a couple of days ago how cool it would be to swap naming conventions on
What precisely is the difference between selling stocks on Ebay and selling them in those cattle market places where everyone has to wear a stupid coloured jacket? I can accept Authorisation/registration arguments, but this IS the internet we're talking about here... Can't the SEC provide a system (preferably open :-) that allows people to determine whether or not a sale is Legal? Surely being able to trade 24/7 is a Good Thing (tm) to those people out there making money off of Stocks?
On a different note, can anyone post an url to a story about the attempted 16-yr old sale?
Hey, sorry dude.
Looking back at my comment it comes across as a foaming rant - not the spirit in which it was intended.
"Would this have been posted had been any other company than Microsoft running the show?"
:-(
Oh, Arse.
I meant to say (drum roll please)
"Would this have been posted had any other company than Microsoft been running the show?" Which when I think about probably sucks grammatically, but I've been writing Perl code all day, and context switching is a bitch sometimes...
fscking Monday afternoons
So my question is, will it be possible to actually make the Mac version of Mozilla use actual standard Mac controls? Does XUL support this?
/. already, but here goes: Mozilla is not a final product yet! I'd imagine that the mozilla crew will spend quite a bit of time polishing it before it gets released to the teeming masses (i.e. us).
IIRC you'll be able to simulate the Mac l&f with XUL. How easy it will be is another story; I'd imagine it will be a non-trivial exercise that requires a significant amount of testing time and debugging effort. If you've got mozilla look at the chrome directory - A quick search using windows explorer turned up 727 files, including directories. So, yes, some time and effort required...
I'm amazed at people's attitude towards issues like this in mozilla. This has been said (probably literally) a thousand times on
Give the guys a chance, OK? I doubt it's easy coming up with a list of innovatations as long as your arm, then implementing it cross-platform
Hmmm,
I'd be very careful of accusing anyone of cheating. I think that this is a simple cock-up, probably bought about by a simple "Not My Problem" attitude somewhere along the chain...
Would this have been posted had been any other company than Microsoft running the show? I wonder...
Then for Debugging, thinking, design or documentation:
It helps if I can watch the Geiss winamp plugin, but I usually only get the chance when thinking or designing...
You know it'll get marked down when you start a comment with:
This isn't a flame BUT...
Did anyone watch (and recall) the recent TV series on Bletchley park and the Enigma codebreakers? Didn't one of the later episodes mention a computer that was built before ENIAC?
If I'm wrong, then please correct me, but I was led to believe (by the TV series)that ENIAC was the second electronic computer...
I'd agree with your criticism of the Que and SAMS publishers of this world - I haven't read a book from either of the above publishers on any technical subject and found it any use. (and I've read a lot of technical books)
/. All of the non-technical people I know view computers as a means to an end, not as a hobby or way of life.
Are Macmillan trumpeting their contributions to Linux? As long as they continue to just sell Mandrake I don't care (although I assume Mandrake are getting paid for their work, and they are contributing to the community)
I just think that we'll just have to get used to people that want to use Linux, not code it, not spend a large portion of their online life in newsgroups and
Some people won't like the concept of a "Non-Techie" company selling Linux. The more people that use Linux, the less exclusive Linux becomes. It's the same phenomena as the the sports car driver that sells his car when he sees another person driving the same type of sports car.
Personally I think that the more people using Linux, the better. More newbies using things like Gnome or KDE means more usability feedback, which in turn means better applications.
I don't think that more newbies means that the command line should be hidden: When I first started with Slackware and Redhat 4.1 in early 97, I wondered what the hell BASH was. Was I doing something wrong, hence the system wanted to "bash" me? Now of course, I prefer to do most stuff from the command line, like editing the xfs config files to add a truetype directory... Although I must admit I'd prefer it to be done for me, and for those sorts of functions to be grouped in some kind of windows-like control panel (with nice icons, etc, I detest Linuxconf)
The more people that use Linux regularly, the more likely it is that we'll get stuff like quicktime at the same time as other platforms. The more people not using windows, the better the web and computing in general becomes. (Even the worst MS-loving PHB won't want to drive 60% of customers away from an "e-commerce" (blech) web site by making it IE specific if IE is proven to be installed on only 40% of computers)
The fact that the MacMillan books tell people quite a lot about Linux should be helpful. Hopefully the whole clueless factor of newbies will decrease. (I was one, and O'Reilly's Running Linux was a godsend)
Does anyone else have a bad feeling about this?
I like AD&D and fantasy novels primarily because they allow me to use my imagination. While I was blown away by the Matrix, I don't think this film will have the same effect. I'd imagine that my concept of a transforming or protecting type spell is quite different from the film makers.
When I used to play D&D, what mattered to me was that it was part of a greater social context, not a "who can cast the best spell" kind of thing. I wonder whether the film will be able to capture the interaction between the characters that made playing so much fun.
Post-Matrix... I hope the director doesn't go for a wachowski (sp?) clone. While a full on acrobatic/martial arts fantasy battle would be cool, it could so easily look very, very cheesy. And remember, we're going to be inundated by Matrix clones over the next year or so. (I have a bad feeling about X-Men degenerating into something like this)
Ah well, I hope the director really surprises me. Deep down I want this film to make me drool like a 1 month old baby...
type "text" if you want a text-mode install
Oops...
(Hangs Head in shame)
Maybe I'll pay more attention in future, although I was eager to try out the new install.
Thanks for the info.
Will it make you feel better if I tell you I'm a loyal use since 4.1?
:-)
I'd agree that this is being pedantic but:
:-(
The graphical setup runs at 60Hz. This is murder on my eyes. By the time I finished the installation (see below) I had a migraine from the flickering. Yes, I know that VGA@60Hz is the lowest common denominator. Personally I would have preferred the choice of installing using the old setup application.
The graphical setup. I wanted to customise which packages got installed. It took ages, even longer than my other pet hate custom installation, SUSE. I didn't figure out a way to select more than one package or directory for installation at a time, so I had to click through each folder and package manually. I hope next time RHAT add alphabetical listing of packages, proper key navigation and multi select of packages. I'd also like the package installation to show how much space I'm going to use on each drive I have if I've spread my partitions across drives.
Disclaimer I am NOT flaming or trolling here. These are my opinions, not incontrovertible fact.
I suppose I'm p*ssed of that I forgot to select the WindowMaker package
That the Ig Noble prizes have just been handed out; this seems like a prime contender...
Not to say that the research is worthless, just as the biscuit dunking research could lead to new insights into starch liquid absorption. Demonstrating a new technology/algorithm with a lego bridge reinforces the general public's idea that science is somehow trivial (the "Wacky Boffins" view)
Hmm,
/. on the walk home? V. Cool.
I wear a rather strange lens combination in my spectacles: -1 in my right eye, +4 in my left. I also have astigmatism (sp?) which complicates matters.
So how will I see this screen properly? Will the screen have to have some kind of lens attachment?
Some posts mention direct retinal projection as a way of viewing the screen, pretty cool, huh? What would be really great is if I could build one of these into my current spectacles and not look like I've visited locutus of borg's optician...
But being able to read
I don't want free calls, I want unmetered calls.
/.'ers wait for the 6pm price change before dialling?
That is, I want to pay a flat rate per month or quarter. I can then use the net for whatever I want, whenever I want.
How many UK
Note for US readers: In the UK, BT charges 4 pence a minute between 8am and 6pm on weekdays, 1.5 pence per minute between 6pm and 8am on weekdays and 1 penny per minute at weekends
Oh, and hasn't anyone noticed that this model is popular with customers?
No, You could only make this statement if there was an umetered alternative available. IMHO, if there was, people would drop BT faster than you could say "monthly charge."
Are you trolling?
it's one of those poor people one reads about
Do you have to mock someone because of their personal wealth? If you feel you have to, then you have my sympathies.
First they charge obscene amounts for ISDN, then we're informed that they will do the same for ADSL.
I simply can't afford either ISDN or ADSL, and that prevents me from doing everything I want to online; Which could be starting up a new business or simply checking the news
I can think of 3 different reasons for BT's attitude to the net:
I'd imagine that not too many Americans surf with one eye on the connection time. I tend to think "can I download this new sourcecode, nope that'll cost too much"
:-(
Metered Calls suck, ISDN costs too much and ADSL's price will be astronomical. Welcome to 18th century Britain...
:-(
:-(
I feel a rambling session coming on...
/. readers spend more time socialising offline than online? Show someone the wonders and splendour of jacked-in cyberspace and tell them they can have it 24/7 if they sign over 40% of their brain to MS for use as distributed processing and they would jump at the chance. Everything I want for free? Fantastic, I don't think. (in fact most people won't think)
If you are "jacked in" and have the sum of human knowledge accessible to you as memory (not manual retrievel, but simply *already* knowing it) and experience the wildest fantasies imaginable, then what precisely will we do?
Will we live for pleasure, forever flipping between more and more exotic porn sessions and ever more fantastic scifi fantasy role-plays? Who wouldn't want to lose themselves in a truly believable Elite scenario?
Or will we live for pure research? Medical, IT, Space or Physics? Like Hell we will
Could you imagine the vast numbers of couch potatoes doing anything other than spending 24 hours inline? (yes, inline, copyright me, friday afternoon just back from the pub) I can't. Will it get to the point where everyone with a modicum of intelligence is obliated under law to maintain the system for the vast, stupid majority? Simply having the sum of human knowledge available isn't enough; you need to be motivated to actually use it.
What sort of people will grow up in this kind of society? Spoilt rotten retards probably.
Who'll pay for all this? You can bet that the likes of the big entertainment companies must be salivating at the prospect of a subscription from everyone on the planet.
What happens to capitalism when noone wants to buy material goods because they can have anything online?
What's the point of living like someone in those pods depicted in the Matrix?
Will anyone spend any time in real life? How many
It'll be a morlock/eloi hell. Don't try to tell me otherwise.
Even after all the evidence in the DOJ's favour, I still think MS will win.
Call me a pessimist, but even that botched video tape hasn't convinced me that the DOJ will succeed.
Don't get me wrong, I do think that MS is guilty as charged. I just think that BillG and co. are teflon coated...
:-(
This isn't a flame, (but),
Enemy of the State wasn't a documentary, dude.
However, I'd agree that most Hollywood flicks nowadays need more than the usual amount of belief suspension.
Hmmm,
/. user ventures outside, I think that any paranoia about this is system is, well, rather silly?
;-)
Considering how much the average
Wait for the 1mm resolution radar imager that can see inside houses, then start worrying
Seriously, dude... just say something to her. Ask her out or something. Maybe she is waiting for you to ask her. The worst she'll do is to say no.
;-). My stomach does back flips, my vision blurs and my IQ drops from maybe 150 to about 30. Everytime I turn a corner in a corridor or walk into the canteen and see her, I'm always laughing or grimacing or doing something that makes me look like the elephant man.
I'm sure a few guys can relate to this. When I see her, I break out in a cold sweat (and, no, spraying head to toe with anti-persperant doesn't help
I know lines are "bad" but the best thing I can think of to say is "Hello, I like girls" in my best Igor voice (the igor voice would be unintentional, but guaranteed)
And, why do I get on really great with girls who are already attached?
I think Homer Simpson put it best (misquote) "But Marge, women have curves and voices that drive us crazy!"
Do you geek grrls know what effect you have on us guys?
:-)
PS. yes, I've got it bad.
I think there needs to be match maker board, just for geeks
There is:
Peer2Peer
Just don't expect us to look like a supermodel
The single young geekguys I know all have unrealistic expectations of beauty. They tend to watch porn/tv/movies where girls are "enhanced" by computers/surgery/hours of makeup|exercise or selected by simple casting. Said guys then have difficulty relating to real girls (she's not liv tyler therefore she's not a great girl). Said guys then talk to girls even less and watch porn/tv/movies even more.
Vicious circle.
Typical conversation:
ME: have you talked to that girl yet?
OTHER GEEK GUY: no way! (shuffles feet nervously). Have you seen the latest FHM? Gail Porter is lush.
However, talk about pot calling kettle black. There's a gorgeous geek girl working for our Y2K team, but can I pluck up enough courage to talk to her? (the answer rhymes with "hoe")
:-(