considering most people I know who had non-science degrees are now employed in fields that have nothing to do with their degree, I'd say that people get hired all the time regardless of any level of knowledge on their field of study.
just how many tv anchor jobs do you think there all for all those journalism and communications majors?
I think you might be surprised how many jobs really are just looking up information on the internet.
IT for example. outlook throws some weird error that nobody has ever seen. I can ask all my colleagues who have never seen it either, I can go down to the bookstore and pick up a $40 outlook book and read through all of that to find the error isn't in there, finally spending hours pouring through event viewer logs and trial and error on various similarly configured PCs that don't have the problem trying to narrow down a possible cause... or I can just google the error and get the solution in 30 seconds.
Which sounds better to you? Of course I know the way in which one develops solutions and procedures, but there is no need to reinvent the wheel -unless you want a better wheel-. As long as all you want is for the wheel to turn again right now so you can get the cart to it's destination, a standard solution is fine.
As to why I'd be paid to look up information on the internet? A. I know what to properly do with that information once I get it B. I know what to do when the internet doesn't have my informaton.
I completely believe this. After all, all the development money was sunk into the project back when it was called the gamecube, what with the wii essentially being the miniaturized and clock speed boosted equivalent of two gamecubes duct taped together. i.e. profitable hardware.
Or you can engross yourself in your studies, push not just to meet the prof's requirements, but to exceed your own limitations.
please explain why this requires $20,000 a year in tuition and a dozen $150 "mandatory" textbooks that were "coincidentally" written by the professor of the class you're taking (and were also "coincidentally" revised each semester so you're not allowed to utilize previous editions).
I learn new stuff EVERY DAY. I've been out of college for 11 years. Why does college have to do with learning other than the fact that you're not expected to have a full time job while you're in college, so you have time to learn (Some people do have a full time job while going to college. How they survived, I'll never know).
College is a great idea ruined by procedural dogma, an attempt to justify itself in a quickly changing business world, and the misguided philosophy that how much somebody truly knows on a subject can be distilled down to one of 5 letter grades.
Exactly my point. What differentiates the mobile phone in my pocket from the console on my desktop.
Both are essentially custom-designed personal computers. I install and run programs on each. Each has a microprocessor, storage, ram, etc. Hell they both have usb connectivity and run linux (my mobile phone being android).
Is the difference that the phone has a screen built in, is portable, and has built-in wi-fi connectivity??Pretty random way to differentiate, but let's say that for some strange reason that is the case, wouldn't that criteria mean that my PSP is fair game to jailbreak?
Go for it guys! Jailbreak your iphone all you want, completely legal! Ruled as such by the Library of Congress!... why doing the exact same thing to the black sony box setting next to my tv isn't legal, I'll never understand.
A lot of what a college review board would term "cheating" is standard practice in the business world, and I'm sure that as someone in a position to hire you are aware of this. Academia is out of touch with modern working society, and has been for a long time. Perhaps they never really were in touch with it.
you are working under the assumption that 4 years (or rather, 120 credits) in college is "an education". I understand your misconception, they do everything in their power to convince you of such.
Quality post. if I hadn't already posted in this thread, I'd mod you up.
To anyone who disagrees, you mean to tell me that when YOU need to know an answer, you don't google it?
Be realistic. "Higher education" isn't about preparing people for the real world, it's about propagating it's own illusion of requirement for success in the business world without actually teaching skills that you need to know to be successful.
In the real world, if you need to know something, you don't sit there in front of a piece of paper with a pen in your hand trying to recall information you may have heard a few days or weeks ago, you just google it. That's the way the real world works. It is truly ironic that when these kids are googling the answers to their problems, they're doing what any real boss would want their employee to do (exempting obvious plagiarism of course), yet colleges have a huge problem with it.
I'm pretty sure that your using the internet to investigate an applicant would be counted as "cybercheating" the hiring process. Way to be a hypocrite.
The whole idea of penalizing people for using the internet to produce answers in today's world sounds silly now doesn't it?
I play a lot of EA NFL Head Coach '09 (based off of Madden 08 engine and Madden 09 AI), and you will see significantly different results on multiple simulations, and you can see radically different results by changing just one or two variables.
"Any given Sunday" is still pretty much true for now. Accurately predicting an entire NFL season with it's hundreds of thousands (probably millions) of variables is probably only one small step below an accurate weather prediction model for the same time period.
I hate to say it, because I HATE cigarette smoke, but most of the evidence for second hand smoke causing cancer, etc. is tremendously trumped up and in some cases just as falsified as the wakefield BS.
of course second hand smoke: A. aggravates allergies and people with conditions like asthma B. smells like absolute shit and sticks to clothing, wood, plastic, damn near everything C. annoys even healthy people
but the evidence that it causes the big C in other people, which is what the big deal was really truly all about, is pretty slim unfortunately. I'm the first to say that I'd rather the hysteria be true because then we'd be rid of secondhand smoke, but just because I want something to be true doesn't mean it is.
you're approaching correct, but you still took a swerve off the road into the bushes of WTFsylvania.
Geohot did manage to pass the hypervisor working through OtherOS. He then told NOBODY how he did it. He boasted that he did it, and the vector he used to get in, but no details at all for anybody to exploit his work for piracy, or even to replicate it. Sony went apeshit though and accelerated plans that were -already in motion- to remove OtherOS post haste. That lit a fire under the collective hackers of the world, which lead to the jailbreak dongle, then failoverflow's work, then geohot's release of the master key, in that order.
Just curious. Everybody assumes it's big bad evil corporation vs little guy. Maybe it really is libel? People can get pretty vicious in their blogs, because they think they are invincible internet supermen.
Not allowing offline saved games seems like a logical next step in the death of a brand.
It's not like this is 10 years ago and Sony's only competition is lackluster consoles from a dying sega and a directionless nintendo. They've got competition now. Wii obviously won the sales war, and at least in the eyes of north american "hardcore" gamers, I'm pretty sure that the 360 "won" this generation's mindshare for most popular console.
That said, I own all 3 and do play the ps3 the most of the 3, but that's not because I feel any particular loyalty to the brand.
what do you think the chances that Nintendo would still have SNES or hell even NES savegame servers up and working properly now 20 or 25 years after the fact. Would my zelda and Final Fantasy 1 saves still work if I want to pop those games in? Would emulators (which is how I play those games now, even though I DO have a working NES console in a box in the garage) be invalidated as "games played on non-standard/hacked hardware"? Maybe Zelda and FF1 would work just fine because they are high profile, but what about less "famous" games?
Sierra took down the Starseige:Tribes master server after about 5 or years. That was a fairly popular game, and the server stored nothing more than the IP addresses of servers that had been verified as up in the past few minutes. You expect companies to keep servers up that have magnitudes more in the way of data storage and transfer needs?
Speaking of bandwidth concerns, some savegames can get pretty damn big. The last thing I need in my games is -more- waiting and loading time. "please wait while we download your savegame". Can you imagine the fun ever time a game's autosave goes off? "please wait, in the middle of this cooridoor, while we transfer your savegame to a server somewhere." And from somebody who was worked extensively with WAN-based applications that -SHOULD- easily work phenomenally fast, yet don't for a reason nobody can figure out, trust me that when that sony save server logjams and millions of people can't play their games because they can't load a save, you'll have MMO forum whining x 100.
also, who the hell is going to pay for all this?
On the other hand... if they take down those hypothetical NES/SNES savegame severs, that would provide some strong incentive to buy those "recently re-released for the 4th time, classic remastered collectors edition" versions for sale on the psn/live/wii stores... Ploy much?
you're more than welcome to take care of your problems yourself if you're competent to do so.
Do I sound like the kind of guy who is going to say "you can do that? no, let me do it for you".
On the other hand, when the changes you make break compatibility with something in the corporate network, and someone asks me why it's a problem to fix it, damn right my notes will be very detailed in exactly how your system differs from everybody else's, with disclaimers that it was not set that way by IT.
Slashdot is fast? They must let you have firefox or chrome. Slashdot on IE is bang-head-against-wall slow.
Thank god for RDPing into your home machine.
I've been on both ends of the stick. I've been the guy sitting there trying to do his job with one of 300 cloned machines with company standard hobbling and nannyware, and I've been the guy who hands out those machines to people and tries to support them.
You wouldn't believe how many ways people can still manage to break their machines no matter what you try to do to stop them, but I'll tell you something, and this is the "hidden truth" behind corporate standardized hardware:
As soon as we figure out how something got broken in the first place, we can either prevent other users from being able to break the computers in the first place, or we can repair the problem in 30 seconds next time instead of the half hour it took this time. Standardized hardware saves man-hours and increases up-time.
When one of my Vice Presidents breaks his computer, he doesn't want to hear why it's taking me a half hour to figure out what he did (sorry sir, your laptop is set up differently from everybody else's, and the fix that worked for them won't work for you), he just wants to get back to work. He's missing deadlines and losing money while I sit there researching a problem I probably already knew how to fix on our standard setup.
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considering most people I know who had non-science degrees are now employed in fields that have nothing to do with their degree, I'd say that people get hired all the time regardless of any level of knowledge on their field of study.
just how many tv anchor jobs do you think there all for all those journalism and communications majors?
I think you might be surprised how many jobs really are just looking up information on the internet.
IT for example. outlook throws some weird error that nobody has ever seen. I can ask all my colleagues who have never seen it either, I can go down to the bookstore and pick up a $40 outlook book and read through all of that to find the error isn't in there, finally spending hours pouring through event viewer logs and trial and error on various similarly configured PCs that don't have the problem trying to narrow down a possible cause... or I can just google the error and get the solution in 30 seconds.
Which sounds better to you? Of course I know the way in which one develops solutions and procedures, but there is no need to reinvent the wheel -unless you want a better wheel-. As long as all you want is for the wheel to turn again right now so you can get the cart to it's destination, a standard solution is fine.
As to why I'd be paid to look up information on the internet?
A. I know what to properly do with that information once I get it
B. I know what to do when the internet doesn't have my informaton.
I learned neither ability in college.
I completely believe this. After all, all the development money was sunk into the project back when it was called the gamecube, what with the wii essentially being the miniaturized and clock speed boosted equivalent of two gamecubes duct taped together. i.e. profitable hardware.
Or you can engross yourself in your studies, push not just to meet the prof's requirements, but to exceed your own limitations.
please explain why this requires $20,000 a year in tuition and a dozen $150 "mandatory" textbooks that were "coincidentally" written by the professor of the class you're taking (and were also "coincidentally" revised each semester so you're not allowed to utilize previous editions).
I learn new stuff EVERY DAY. I've been out of college for 11 years. Why does college have to do with learning other than the fact that you're not expected to have a full time job while you're in college, so you have time to learn (Some people do have a full time job while going to college. How they survived, I'll never know).
College is a great idea ruined by procedural dogma, an attempt to justify itself in a quickly changing business world, and the misguided philosophy that how much somebody truly knows on a subject can be distilled down to one of 5 letter grades.
Exactly my point. What differentiates the mobile phone in my pocket from the console on my desktop.
Both are essentially custom-designed personal computers. I install and run programs on each. Each has a microprocessor, storage, ram, etc. Hell they both have usb connectivity and run linux (my mobile phone being android).
Is the difference that the phone has a screen built in, is portable, and has built-in wi-fi connectivity??Pretty random way to differentiate, but let's say that for some strange reason that is the case, wouldn't that criteria mean that my PSP is fair game to jailbreak?
Go for it guys! Jailbreak your iphone all you want, completely legal! Ruled as such by the Library of Congress! ... why doing the exact same thing to the black sony box setting next to my tv isn't legal, I'll never understand.
A lot of what a college review board would term "cheating" is standard practice in the business world, and I'm sure that as someone in a position to hire you are aware of this. Academia is out of touch with modern working society, and has been for a long time. Perhaps they never really were in touch with it.
you are working under the assumption that 4 years (or rather, 120 credits) in college is "an education". I understand your misconception, they do everything in their power to convince you of such.
Quality post. if I hadn't already posted in this thread, I'd mod you up.
To anyone who disagrees, you mean to tell me that when YOU need to know an answer, you don't google it?
Be realistic. "Higher education" isn't about preparing people for the real world, it's about propagating it's own illusion of requirement for success in the business world without actually teaching skills that you need to know to be successful.
In the real world, if you need to know something, you don't sit there in front of a piece of paper with a pen in your hand trying to recall information you may have heard a few days or weeks ago, you just google it. That's the way the real world works. It is truly ironic that when these kids are googling the answers to their problems, they're doing what any real boss would want their employee to do (exempting obvious plagiarism of course), yet colleges have a huge problem with it.
I'm pretty sure that your using the internet to investigate an applicant would be counted as "cybercheating" the hiring process. Way to be a hypocrite.
The whole idea of penalizing people for using the internet to produce answers in today's world sounds silly now doesn't it?
True. I didn't think about that. So, at this point, we pretty much need a simulation of every atom in the universe to produce an accurate result.
How the hell are we going to even get a set of initial conditions for that?
Wait, anybody got a piece of fairy cake?
"may still has"
Ugh. Engrish fail. Need more caffeine.
A network that grew out of a military project may still has backdoors the military can access/control.
Who'd have thought?
I play a lot of EA NFL Head Coach '09 (based off of Madden 08 engine and Madden 09 AI), and you will see significantly different results on multiple simulations, and you can see radically different results by changing just one or two variables.
"Any given Sunday" is still pretty much true for now. Accurately predicting an entire NFL season with it's hundreds of thousands (probably millions) of variables is probably only one small step below an accurate weather prediction model for the same time period.
I hate to say it, because I HATE cigarette smoke, but most of the evidence for second hand smoke causing cancer, etc. is tremendously trumped up and in some cases just as falsified as the wakefield BS.
of course second hand smoke:
A. aggravates allergies and people with conditions like asthma
B. smells like absolute shit and sticks to clothing, wood, plastic, damn near everything
C. annoys even healthy people
but the evidence that it causes the big C in other people, which is what the big deal was really truly all about, is pretty slim unfortunately. I'm the first to say that I'd rather the hysteria be true because then we'd be rid of secondhand smoke, but just because I want something to be true doesn't mean it is.
you're approaching correct, but you still took a swerve off the road into the bushes of WTFsylvania.
Geohot did manage to pass the hypervisor working through OtherOS. He then told NOBODY how he did it. He boasted that he did it, and the vector he used to get in, but no details at all for anybody to exploit his work for piracy, or even to replicate it. Sony went apeshit though and accelerated plans that were -already in motion- to remove OtherOS post haste. That lit a fire under the collective hackers of the world, which lead to the jailbreak dongle, then failoverflow's work, then geohot's release of the master key, in that order.
Just curious. Everybody assumes it's big bad evil corporation vs little guy. Maybe it really is libel? People can get pretty vicious in their blogs, because they think they are invincible internet supermen.
Is THAT why my civ5 saves take so damn long to load?
Not allowing offline saved games seems like a logical next step in the death of a brand.
It's not like this is 10 years ago and Sony's only competition is lackluster consoles from a dying sega and a directionless nintendo. They've got competition now. Wii obviously won the sales war, and at least in the eyes of north american "hardcore" gamers, I'm pretty sure that the 360 "won" this generation's mindshare for most popular console.
That said, I own all 3 and do play the ps3 the most of the 3, but that's not because I feel any particular loyalty to the brand.
what do you think the chances that Nintendo would still have SNES or hell even NES savegame servers up and working properly now 20 or 25 years after the fact. Would my zelda and Final Fantasy 1 saves still work if I want to pop those games in? Would emulators (which is how I play those games now, even though I DO have a working NES console in a box in the garage) be invalidated as "games played on non-standard/hacked hardware"? Maybe Zelda and FF1 would work just fine because they are high profile, but what about less "famous" games?
Sierra took down the Starseige:Tribes master server after about 5 or years. That was a fairly popular game, and the server stored nothing more than the IP addresses of servers that had been verified as up in the past few minutes. You expect companies to keep servers up that have magnitudes more in the way of data storage and transfer needs?
Speaking of bandwidth concerns, some savegames can get pretty damn big. The last thing I need in my games is -more- waiting and loading time. "please wait while we download your savegame". Can you imagine the fun ever time a game's autosave goes off? "please wait, in the middle of this cooridoor, while we transfer your savegame to a server somewhere." And from somebody who was worked extensively with WAN-based applications that -SHOULD- easily work phenomenally fast, yet don't for a reason nobody can figure out, trust me that when that sony save server logjams and millions of people can't play their games because they can't load a save, you'll have MMO forum whining x 100.
also, who the hell is going to pay for all this?
On the other hand... if they take down those hypothetical NES/SNES savegame severs, that would provide some strong incentive to buy those "recently re-released for the 4th time, classic remastered collectors edition" versions for sale on the psn/live/wii stores... Ploy much?
no thanks sony, no thanks at all.
the skype toolbar is junk anyway.
wait, let me fix it for myself
toolbars are junk anyway.
I misread that at first as saying you wanted to name the planet Unicron, which is still a pretty badass choice.
Stop abusing the sun! We've only got enough sunlight to last until the year 4,500,002,011AD!
It's time to conserve!
you're more than welcome to take care of your problems yourself if you're competent to do so.
Do I sound like the kind of guy who is going to say "you can do that? no, let me do it for you".
On the other hand, when the changes you make break compatibility with something in the corporate network, and someone asks me why it's a problem to fix it, damn right my notes will be very detailed in exactly how your system differs from everybody else's, with disclaimers that it was not set that way by IT.
Slashdot is fast? They must let you have firefox or chrome. Slashdot on IE is bang-head-against-wall slow.
Thank god for RDPing into your home machine.
I've been on both ends of the stick. I've been the guy sitting there trying to do his job with one of 300 cloned machines with company standard hobbling and nannyware, and I've been the guy who hands out those machines to people and tries to support them.
You wouldn't believe how many ways people can still manage to break their machines no matter what you try to do to stop them, but I'll tell you something, and this is the "hidden truth" behind corporate standardized hardware:
As soon as we figure out how something got broken in the first place, we can either prevent other users from being able to break the computers in the first place, or we can repair the problem in 30 seconds next time instead of the half hour it took this time. Standardized hardware saves man-hours and increases up-time.
When one of my Vice Presidents breaks his computer, he doesn't want to hear why it's taking me a half hour to figure out what he did (sorry sir, your laptop is set up differently from everybody else's, and the fix that worked for them won't work for you), he just wants to get back to work. He's missing deadlines and losing money while I sit there researching a problem I probably already knew how to fix on our standard setup.