Funny, I haven't seen any new releases of the OS on Nokia's USA website. You know, since the release that broke the timezone clock, (among other things).
The Maemo.org site is NOT Nokia. I have no real interest in loading Alpha and Beta test versions on my system. So as far as I and most other users can tell, Nokia isn't supporting the device anymore and isn't fixing the new bugs. If you have some nice new fixed OS version why the heck isn't it on the USA website?????
There was only one release this year. That was it (unless they made a release in the last month). I honestly don't know where you are getting this number of releases from. Here is the website:
There has been one release on the USA Nokia site so far this year (unless there was recently another release that I do not know about). I have no interest in loading -ANY- OS releases from a third source that isn't an official Nokia release. I also don't want to have to deal with special hacks (like having to hack root) to make it work.
I didn't spend 300+ dollars to have to then go and spend hours of my time to make the device work. I don't have that time to waste.
Maemo IS NOT NOKIA. All of these things are NOT Nokia. Yes if I had the time to waste I could put a better OS on there with everything I need and have it working exactly like I want. But I bought because I wanted a consumer device that worked, not a developer's toy. I do not want to spend my time trouble shooting buggy untested software. That's my job, do you think I want to do that after work as well? Heck no!!!
The onscreen keyboard sucks. It's tiny, suffers from input errors often enough to be frustrating, and switching it on and off for use often causes random data in the input strings.
Also the bluetooth keyboard isn't standard, it's a hack, and only a few will work with it. Do I want a fold out keyboard? YES!!! Give me something like the sidekick's and I'd be happy.
Also remember that the onscreen keyboard obscures at least half the screen. (I haven't tried the bigger one, because the new OS version breaks more things than it fixed and I use the things it broke, so for me it's worthless).
This was a good device idea wise. Dropping all development support for it however was a bad idea. Nokia seems to have abandoned the platform. I suspect the Sony one will be far better supported and implemented.
Why? Because the Nokia 770 has pretty much become junk. Yes it's a nice piece of hardware, yes it has a nice screen. But the software on it sucks, there is no support, no new releases (the last new release broke more than it fixed) in short, Nokia could care less about supporting it. The 770 showed a lot of promise, Nokia could have (but didn't) released a keyboard for it (the on screen one sucks, lots of issues).
I bought the 770 5 months ago to for a special use. Now that the use is over it'll never come out of the desk again. When I got it I thought I'd be able to do all sorts of things with it as Nokia added features and fixed bugs.
Sadly, no such luck. Nokia isn't fixing bugs, and isn't adding features. The lack of support by Nokia has also translated to vendors who once considered selling things for it, and now realize it's a dead platform and won't touch it.
Maybe the Sony device will cause the people at Nokia to wake up and go back to work on the 770, I hope so but I sincerely doubt it. Nokia dropped the ball on this, which is a shame.
(BTW, I do know about Maemo and do have xterm, ssh, and a few other apps installed. Excessive Lag however makes the 770 a poor internet device)
Really? Can we put the Control key back to where it first was, where the Caps Lock key is now? (The Caps lock key USED to be on the lower left side - Thank you Microsoft for changing the decades long convention of key placement).
Of course I suspect a lot of you reading this never used a keyboard from back prior to the 90's when MS changed them.
Someone once opened a prison in which there was no privacy, all the prisoners were observed by the guards 24/7.
A lot of them went crazy as I recall, the prison was eventually torn down. There is no greater punishment you can give to a human being, no harsher torture than to have their every movement, their every act, observed.
think about it.
I had this conversation with Mr. Brin once, he didn't get it. He just doesn't understand people, at all.
From Edmunds Scientific (I'm sure they sell them). Put it over your license plate. You plate is still visible to to the human eye, but not this machine.
But still write to your congressman to ban this! Talk about your invasion of privacy...
There is no proof that a nuclear winter can happen, much less would. There is actually a lot of proof that it can't happen, remember the firing of the oil fields in Kuwait? It was supposed to create a nuclear winter, it didn't. The theory did not survive the experiment.
You cannot make the landmass 'radioactive'. There are not enough nuclear bombs to destroy all of the US, there never was. I really think you need to learn more about this subject, you really don't know much about it. Well not much that is factual.
As for the tree's, there are probably more than 200 years ago as well. Remember the number of forest fires is artifically limited by humans now, so forests are denser than they were in the past.
More crimes, more war, more hatred, more killing has occurred in the name of one or another religion than from any other single source Sorry, wrong. Communism killed about 100 million in the last century. All of the people killed by or for religon doesn't even come close.
The rest of your post is filled with simular errors of fact and history. Sorry, but your conclusions are all wrong as well.
Deforestation? There are more trees here in the USA at least than there were 100 years ago.
Nuclear bombs? Not enough to obliterate the USA, much less the world. Oh they'd probably mess up civilzation a bit, but they wouldn't kill every one nor wreck the planet.
Man does not possess the power to destroy the planet, many asteroids have tried, none have succeeded. Nature is far stronger than we are and we are in more danger from another said asteroid than anything we can come up with.
Guns played an important part of the civil rights movements of the 60's. Why do you think clansmen did not raid the houses of the leaders and just kill everyone? Why did they not just shoot the marchers in the streets? (And it was tried, several times, the marchers shot back).
Check your history, it's true that this use of guns is often down played because it is not politically correct, but footage and case histories of black civil rights activists and marchers using firearms to protect themselves and their familes are well documented.
That actually sounds like one of the more serious issues I've seen so far. I've seen how some ISP's are extremely difficult (to put it mildly) to get an address space out of already in IP4. Not letting me get an address space on my own when the number of spaces has been so radically increased is kind of dumb.
I haven't had the time yet to read over the specs and try to figure out what the downsides and hassles for the rest of us will be with IPv6, but I'm sure there are slashdotters out there who have taken the time to figure out where the problems and issues are.
If those of you out there who understand those issues could make a few posts here I would greatly appreciate it.
No, if you have to verify with a credit card the age limits work quite well, and if a parent lets their child use thier card to get on, you can sue them for fraud. Seen it done. And while yes some children will sneak through, you can usually quickly identify them by their behavoir and get them kicked out.
There is a reason society limits the rights of children, and I myself prefer not to deal with someone online who is a child unless I know that upfront. I also do not like to play online games with children in them, mainly because their behavior is often obnoxious and they usually have no social skills. Like I really want to hear some 14 year old trash talking to me.
The one and only. I think there are entries for him on both Wikipedia and encyclopedia dramatica these days. I've also heard he gets out of jail in September.
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Griefers tend really to fall into two main catragories: Children, and people who want attention.
The first you can get rid of easily enough by putting in age limits. That will get rid of the large majority, but most children aren't very good at griefing unless they have some sort of script they downloaded to help them along. They're really just annoyances.
It's the ones in the later catagory who are the worst cases, and in many instances their anti-social behavior takes place in real life as well (Any one here know about sibe?) These people do these things online because they know they can cause a fuss, and hopefully even hurt people, without themselves being subject to any penalties or pain. And they gain all sorts of attention and notoriety for it.
How do you deal with it? Well communities -can't- deal with it if they have no clear and easy method to kick the person off the system immediately, or at least eject them from the area of play. There are ways of dealing with this beyond having some sort of game master around keeping an eye on things, but lets be honest: We're paying for the game, the company should have some sort of GM around to deal with these people!
It's like real life, we have police and courts for a reason. Grievers can quickly destroy a game and lose you customers. Part of customer service means dealing with them. Yes these people once ejected can come back, but if it's costing money only the most dysfunctional or vicious will keep returning. Then it does become a legal matter, though in many cases those people are going to end up in jail for real life criminal matters unrelated to the game.
But the sad fact is this problem will never go away, crime is as old as society itself. There are always people who want to steal what you have, hurt you, or just muck everything up for everyone else. When I have to ban these people from the system I deal with it is amazing to me that they often have NO IDEA at all of why they're in trouble, they just can't understand why it's not alright for them to do whatever they want and so what if they hurt and abuse other people in the process. Or worse yet, get pissed at me for having the nerve to stop them. I have also found that if you catch trouble makers when they first show up, and give them a taste of the punishments instore if they continue, that many will toe the line from there on. But that usually only works with the younger players who will still respond to discipline.
In short, there is no easy solution and trying to pan it all off on the players will never work satisfactorily unless you have a method for giving some of those players power and making sure they don't abuse it. I think this is probably the hardest part of MMO game design today.
Remember, several of the labs (and I think Los Alamos falls into this group) are managed by Universities. And I just don't think those university administrators are really equiped to deal with managing a bunch of scientists whose IQ's are often very far above theirs, and who are sometimes willing to break rules and do end runs around them.
The college I went to many of the professors were famous in their fields and the admins were all just typical people. The things the profs would do to them (and while some were funny, some were pretty darn cruel) were often amazing. Yeah you might be a brilliant admin with an IQ of 110 or 120. But that 180 IQ professor is going dazzle you like you've never seen in your life and high end research is not a pursuit for the faint of heart! They're not just smart, they're often tough too!
I've heard some rather shocking stories from friends who work at two of the National labs that seems to bear this theory out.
Like him or not, Bill Gates did a lot for personal computers, and honestly, those of us who use them and even the world. MicroSoft wrote a lot of good compilers and a lot of good programs, and while many may gripe, windows, windows98, windowsNT and windowsXP were pretty damn good products.
Bill was rare in that he had vision and the ability to do technical things, and was a very driven person. He was the guy we all loved, then when he got rich he was the guy we all loved to 'hate'. But I remember what it was like before him, and he really did help change the world.
At this point the only person left from the original shakers and movers is Steve Jobs. Steve isn't much of a technical person, but he has been a visionary in the past equal to Bill. I have to wonder how much longer till he bows out?
And to be completely honest, it makes me wonder what the next bunch of 'snotty nosed kids' (as my compsci prof used to call Gates, Jobs, and Woz) will come up with. Every time an Era ends, a new one starts after all...
What's worse is even dumber replies from idiots like you. We're talking STARTING SALARY. I know of very few jobs where the STARTING SALARY is as high as you seem to think it should be. STARTING SALARY implies NO EXPERIENCE, FIRST JOB in the field.
If you want to see the ignorant person in this thread, go look in the mirror.
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Funny, I haven't seen any new releases of the OS on Nokia's USA website. You know, since the release that broke the timezone clock, (among other things).
The Maemo.org site is NOT Nokia. I have no real interest in loading Alpha and Beta test versions on my system. So as far as I and most other users can tell, Nokia isn't supporting the device anymore and isn't fixing the new bugs. If you have some nice new fixed OS version why the heck isn't it on the USA website?????
There was only one release this year. That was it (unless they made a release in the last month). I honestly don't know where you are getting this number of releases from. Here is the website:
d ate/1,8461,770,00.html
http://www.nokiausa.com/support/phones/softwareup
See, only one release from June.
There has been one release on the USA Nokia site so far this year (unless there was recently another release that I do not know about). I have no interest in loading -ANY- OS releases from a third source that isn't an official Nokia release. I also don't want to have to deal with special hacks (like having to hack root) to make it work.
I didn't spend 300+ dollars to have to then go and spend hours of my time to make the device work. I don't have that time to waste.
Maemo IS NOT NOKIA. All of these things are NOT Nokia. Yes if I had the time to waste I could put a better OS on there with everything I need and have it working exactly like I want. But I bought because I wanted a consumer device that worked, not a developer's toy. I do not want to spend my time trouble shooting buggy untested software. That's my job, do you think I want to do that after work as well? Heck no!!!
The onscreen keyboard sucks. It's tiny, suffers from input errors often enough to be frustrating, and switching it on and off for use often causes random data in the input strings.
Also the bluetooth keyboard isn't standard, it's a hack, and only a few will work with it. Do I want a fold out keyboard? YES!!! Give me something like the sidekick's and I'd be happy.
Also remember that the onscreen keyboard obscures at least half the screen. (I haven't tried the bigger one, because the new OS version breaks more things than it fixed and I use the things it broke, so for me it's worthless).
This was a good device idea wise. Dropping all development support for it however was a bad idea. Nokia seems to have abandoned the platform. I suspect the Sony one will be far better supported and implemented.
Why? Because the Nokia 770 has pretty much become junk. Yes it's a nice piece of hardware, yes it has a nice screen. But the software on it sucks, there is no support, no new releases (the last new release broke more than it fixed) in short, Nokia could care less about supporting it. The 770 showed a lot of promise, Nokia could have (but didn't) released a keyboard for it (the on screen one sucks, lots of issues).
I bought the 770 5 months ago to for a special use. Now that the use is over it'll never come out of the desk again. When I got it I thought I'd be able to do all sorts of things with it as Nokia added features and fixed bugs.
Sadly, no such luck. Nokia isn't fixing bugs, and isn't adding features. The lack of support by Nokia has also translated to vendors who once considered selling things for it, and now realize it's a dead platform and won't touch it.
Maybe the Sony device will cause the people at Nokia to wake up and go back to work on the 770, I hope so but I sincerely doubt it. Nokia dropped the ball on this, which is a shame.
(BTW, I do know about Maemo and do have xterm, ssh, and a few other apps installed. Excessive Lag however makes the 770 a poor internet device)
Really? Can we put the Control key back to where it first was, where the Caps Lock key is now? (The Caps lock key USED to be on the lower left side - Thank you Microsoft for changing the decades long convention of key placement).
Of course I suspect a lot of you reading this never used a keyboard from back prior to the 90's when MS changed them.
Me too!
Someone once opened a prison in which there was no privacy, all the prisoners were observed by the guards 24/7.
A lot of them went crazy as I recall, the prison was eventually torn down. There is no greater punishment you can give to a human being, no harsher torture than to have their every movement, their every act, observed.
think about it.
I had this conversation with Mr. Brin once, he didn't get it. He just doesn't understand people, at all.
From Edmunds Scientific (I'm sure they sell them). Put it over your license plate. You plate is still visible to to the human eye, but not this machine.
But still write to your congressman to ban this! Talk about your invasion of privacy...
There is no proof that a nuclear winter can happen, much less would. There is actually a lot of proof that it can't happen, remember the firing of the oil fields in Kuwait? It was supposed to create a nuclear winter, it didn't. The theory did not survive the experiment.
You cannot make the landmass 'radioactive'. There are not enough nuclear bombs to destroy all of the US, there never was. I really think you need to learn more about this subject, you really don't know much about it. Well not much that is factual.
As for the tree's, there are probably more than 200 years ago as well. Remember the number of forest fires is artifically limited by humans now, so forests are denser than they were in the past.
More crimes, more war, more hatred, more killing has occurred in the name of one or another religion than from any other single source
Sorry, wrong. Communism killed about 100 million in the last century. All of the people killed by or for religon doesn't even come close.
The rest of your post is filled with simular errors of fact and history. Sorry, but your conclusions are all wrong as well.
Deforestation? There are more trees here in the USA at least than there were 100 years ago.
Nuclear bombs? Not enough to obliterate the USA, much less the world. Oh they'd probably mess up civilzation a bit, but they wouldn't kill every one nor wreck the planet.
Man does not possess the power to destroy the planet, many asteroids have tried, none have succeeded. Nature is far stronger than we are and we are in more danger from another said asteroid than anything we can come up with.
Communism has killed over 100 million in the last 100 years alone. Religion doesn't even begin to come close.
Guns played an important part of the civil rights movements of the 60's. Why do you think clansmen did not raid the houses of the leaders and just kill everyone? Why did they not just shoot the marchers in the streets? (And it was tried, several times, the marchers shot back).
Check your history, it's true that this use of guns is often down played because it is not politically correct, but footage and case histories of black civil rights activists and marchers using firearms to protect themselves and their familes are well documented.
It is about stopping someone from grabbing the cops gun and shooting him. That is how most cops are shot, by their own gun...
Sorry, but do you have proof of this? I've known a lot of cops and I've -rarely- heard of this happening. Sounds like BS to me
That actually sounds like one of the more serious issues I've seen so far. I've seen how some ISP's are extremely difficult (to put it mildly) to get an address space out of already in IP4. Not letting me get an address space on my own when the number of spaces has been so radically increased is kind of dumb.
I haven't had the time yet to read over the specs and try to figure out what the downsides and hassles for the rest of us will be with IPv6, but I'm sure there are slashdotters out there who have taken the time to figure out where the problems and issues are.
If those of you out there who understand those issues could make a few posts here I would greatly appreciate it.
Thank you.
No, if you have to verify with a credit card the age limits work quite well, and if a parent lets their child use thier card to get on, you can sue them for fraud. Seen it done. And while yes some children will sneak through, you can usually quickly identify them by their behavoir and get them kicked out.
There is a reason society limits the rights of children, and I myself prefer not to deal with someone online who is a child unless I know that upfront. I also do not like to play online games with children in them, mainly because their behavior is often obnoxious and they usually have no social skills. Like I really want to hear some 14 year old trash talking to me.
The one and only. I think there are entries for him on both Wikipedia and encyclopedia dramatica these days. I've also heard he gets out of jail in September.
Griefers tend really to fall into two main catragories: Children, and people who want attention.
The first you can get rid of easily enough by putting in age limits. That will get rid of the large majority, but most children aren't very good at griefing unless they have some sort of script they downloaded to help them along. They're really just annoyances.
It's the ones in the later catagory who are the worst cases, and in many instances their anti-social behavior takes place in real life as well (Any one here know about sibe?) These people do these things online because they know they can cause a fuss, and hopefully even hurt people, without themselves being subject to any penalties or pain. And they gain all sorts of attention and notoriety for it.
How do you deal with it? Well communities -can't- deal with it if they have no clear and easy method to kick the person off the system immediately, or at least eject them from the area of play. There are ways of dealing with this beyond having some sort of game master around keeping an eye on things, but lets be honest: We're paying for the game, the company should have some sort of GM around to deal with these people!
It's like real life, we have police and courts for a reason. Grievers can quickly destroy a game and lose you customers. Part of customer service means dealing with them. Yes these people once ejected can come back, but if it's costing money only the most dysfunctional or vicious will keep returning. Then it does become a legal matter, though in many cases those people are going to end up in jail for real life criminal matters unrelated to the game.
But the sad fact is this problem will never go away, crime is as old as society itself. There are always people who want to steal what you have, hurt you, or just muck everything up for everyone else. When I have to ban these people from the system I deal with it is amazing to me that they often have NO IDEA at all of why they're in trouble, they just can't understand why it's not alright for them to do whatever they want and so what if they hurt and abuse other people in the process. Or worse yet, get pissed at me for having the nerve to stop them. I have also found that if you catch trouble makers when they first show up, and give them a taste of the punishments instore if they continue, that many will toe the line from there on. But that usually only works with the younger players who will still respond to discipline.
In short, there is no easy solution and trying to pan it all off on the players will never work satisfactorily unless you have a method for giving some of those players power and making sure they don't abuse it. I think this is probably the hardest part of MMO game design today.
Because I know they read slashdot and I don't want to get them pissed at me :-)
Would -you- want a genius pissed at -you-?
Remember, several of the labs (and I think Los Alamos falls into this group) are managed by Universities. And I just don't think those university administrators are really equiped to deal with managing a bunch of scientists whose IQ's are often very far above theirs, and who are sometimes willing to break rules and do end runs around them.
The college I went to many of the professors were famous in their fields and the admins were all just typical people. The things the profs would do to them (and while some were funny, some were pretty darn cruel) were often amazing. Yeah you might be a brilliant admin with an IQ of 110 or 120. But that 180 IQ professor is going dazzle you like you've never seen in your life and high end research is not a pursuit for the faint of heart! They're not just smart, they're often tough too!
I've heard some rather shocking stories from friends who work at two of the National labs that seems to bear this theory out.
Like him or not, Bill Gates did a lot for personal computers, and honestly, those of us who use them and even the world. MicroSoft wrote a lot of good compilers and a lot of good programs, and while many may gripe, windows, windows98, windowsNT and windowsXP were pretty damn good products.
Bill was rare in that he had vision and the ability to do technical things, and was a very driven person. He was the guy we all loved, then when he got rich he was the guy we all loved to 'hate'. But I remember what it was like before him, and he really did help change the world.
At this point the only person left from the original shakers and movers is Steve Jobs. Steve isn't much of a technical person, but he has been a visionary in the past equal to Bill. I have to wonder how much longer till he bows out?
And to be completely honest, it makes me wonder what the next bunch of 'snotty nosed kids' (as my compsci prof used to call Gates, Jobs, and Woz) will come up with. Every time an Era ends, a new one starts after all...
What's worse is even dumber replies from idiots like you. We're talking STARTING SALARY. I know of very few jobs where the STARTING SALARY is as high as you seem to think it should be. STARTING SALARY implies NO EXPERIENCE, FIRST JOB in the field.
If you want to see the ignorant person in this thread, go look in the mirror.