There is something about Red Hat that elicits venom and wildly bizarre conspiracy theories about their motives from the "community". Fedora Core 1 was an improvement and the mere existence of the Fedora project has taken a relatively quirky RHEL 2.1 and helped it evolve into a significantly better RHEL 4.
One of the great (comical) things about this community is that 100 nutjobs sound like a 100,000. The sane among us only feel the need to post once or twice in a given story while the cranky gits feel the need to reply to every positive comment with their own subjective, anecdotal, worthless story about why Red Hat is running scared of Ubuntu, trying to subvert Linux, or screwing them in some imaginary way.
Coders can't have it all ways. If they don't want people to "steal" their code and make money off of it, then they can release it with a proprietary license. They could obtain a software patent if they wanted to. Maybe an ammendment to the GPL that completely prohibits redistribution by third parties or requires some kind of royalty back to the project. Hmmm, that doesn't too "free" does it?
There are benefits and pitfalls to all licenses and anybody who contributes to an open source project _should_ be aware of these issues before contributing. If they don't like it they can work on something else, or create their own license. Frankly, I think the original editorial is nothing more than sour grapes and unabashed whining.
I am personally very happy that some of my closest friends are getting paid to write GPL code. It may not be the best of all worlds, but its a better alternative to them getting paid to write proprietary code. Before the big scary corporations got involved the majority of OSS projects were being developed in the white tower of academia. Now we're seeing millions of lines of good, beneficial code coming in from all sides. Code is coming from people in IT shops who live under the microscope of availability and service level agreements. Code is coming in from hardware vendors and we're seeing OSS projects spreading much more quickly across architectures and environments. Code is coming in from small shops were the big expensive CRM and ERP packages are a bit over the top for them and they create their own. Open Source has chaged the world, but it can't mold the world in to each person's own perfect little utopia.
If someone doesn't like the game they've joined just because it isn't going their way, then they can just take their ball and go home. The system works and it works well.
To be even more specific, the "new" SCO is the dim-witted offspring from the marriage of the "old" SCO and Caldera. Its more Caldera than "old" SCO, but even that is a little unfair as I believe almost none of the leadership did any real work for either parent.
Those that stand resolutely on one side of the OS divide or the other will have problems dealing with anything on the other side.
Exactly! Nowhere do I argue one way or the other. My point is that the assumption that managing Nix environments is easy for everybody and their dog like the grandparent implied is seriously flawed.
Hello?! The QT toolkit issue was resolved a very long time ago. It's available under commercial and GPL license terms. The horse died a long time ago, stop beating it.
Being an Oracle DBA, I wish I could argue you with you. I like Oracle's database technology, but the cost has gotten out of hand. Fortunately my employer has a very reasonable bulk licensing deal with them. If we had to pay the "going rate" according to Oracle I'd be drafting up a migration strategy.
I would contend that it is actually greater than most people in this forum think. In my career, I've worked with many proprietary vendors who have bent over backwards for their clients. How much they bend has always been a function for how big of a customer the client is and how big the vendor is. Proprietary software vendors, especially the small shops are typically extremely flexible and responsive to their customers. In my own experiences, I've found small software vendors who depend on your dime to be much more open and responsive than all but the most accomodating open source projects.
Modern Linux distros (and other similar) operating systems are easier to install, configure and maintain that the MS variants I've observed.
Maybe for you and me, but for an IT department built around Windows with experienced windows administrators that is definitely not the case. I've seen Nix geeks struggle with basic problems in Windows and Windows geeks struggle with basic problems in Nix. Its all relative and your data point is not true for everyone.
Why? We'll just get someone to write a virus on his powerbook, steal an alien fighter, fly up to the alien mothership and upload it. No bombs necessary.
I've got two kids and if you can't trust the sitter, find someone else or don't go. Granted, I'm one of the lucky ones, both my wife and I come from large families that all live close by.
The point of getting out as a couple is to enjoy yourself. If you're going to spend the whole time checking up on the kids and none of that time talking to your significant other, your marriage WILL disintegrate.
That being said, If you suspect something is up, by all means set up the monitoring. Then again, if you suspect something is up don't knowingly put your kid in a potentially hazardous situation.
=== But feel free to monitor your wife and share the link.;)
Its just a matter of time before someone puts a little too much juice through the wire and creates SUPER-CORAL (tm). A coral so strong and viral that it will no longer be content to stay in the water. It will spread to the land and we will have the fight of our lives on our hands.
Having worked in the legal field for some time, I can say that clients rarely tell their attorney's the truth. (especially plaintiffs in civil suits and defendants in criminal ones) Being a technical matter, I highly doubt their attorney's knew what hit them until it was too late.
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And you should be even more embarrassed you posted in it. What a loser.
uh..... nevermind
[i]Geeks are cool. Why? Because their services are in demand and they can get good jobs.[/i]
The girls at my high school must have missed the memo.
There is something about Red Hat that elicits venom and wildly bizarre conspiracy theories about their motives from the "community". Fedora Core 1 was an improvement and the mere existence of the Fedora project has taken a relatively quirky RHEL 2.1 and helped it evolve into a significantly better RHEL 4.
One of the great (comical) things about this community is that 100 nutjobs sound like a 100,000. The sane among us only feel the need to post once or twice in a given story while the cranky gits feel the need to reply to every positive comment with their own subjective, anecdotal, worthless story about why Red Hat is running scared of Ubuntu, trying to subvert Linux, or screwing them in some imaginary way.
Coders can't have it all ways. If they don't want people to "steal" their code and make money off of it, then they can release it with a proprietary license. They could obtain a software patent if they wanted to. Maybe an ammendment to the GPL that completely prohibits redistribution by third parties or requires some kind of royalty back to the project. Hmmm, that doesn't too "free" does it?
There are benefits and pitfalls to all licenses and anybody who contributes to an open source project _should_ be aware of these issues before contributing. If they don't like it they can work on something else, or create their own license. Frankly, I think the original editorial is nothing more than sour grapes and unabashed whining.
I am personally very happy that some of my closest friends are getting paid to write GPL code. It may not be the best of all worlds, but its a better alternative to them getting paid to write proprietary code. Before the big scary corporations got involved the majority of OSS projects were being developed in the white tower of academia. Now we're seeing millions of lines of good, beneficial code coming in from all sides. Code is coming from people in IT shops who live under the microscope of availability and service level agreements. Code is coming in from hardware vendors and we're seeing OSS projects spreading much more quickly across architectures and environments. Code is coming in from small shops were the big expensive CRM and ERP packages are a bit over the top for them and they create their own. Open Source has chaged the world, but it can't mold the world in to each person's own perfect little utopia.
If someone doesn't like the game they've joined just because it isn't going their way, then they can just take their ball and go home. The system works and it works well.
Thank you very much. I now have to go find some monitor wipes to clean off the coffee.
That's a lot of hands.
To be even more specific, the "new" SCO is the dim-witted offspring from the marriage of the "old" SCO and Caldera. Its more Caldera than "old" SCO, but even that is a little unfair as I believe almost none of the leadership did any real work for either parent.
Posted AC too.
Man, that made my day.
Touche
I will now go get my own beer.
Uh the title was a reply.
Those that stand resolutely on one side of the OS divide or the other will have problems dealing with anything on the other side.
Exactly! Nowhere do I argue one way or the other. My point is that the assumption that managing Nix environments is easy for everybody and their dog like the grandparent implied is seriously flawed.
Go to your fridge, grab a beer, drink it, reread my post and ask yourself, "Was that a serious question?".
Next you're gonna tell us IE isn't "free" software.
Hello?! The QT toolkit issue was resolved a very long time ago. It's available under commercial and GPL license terms. The horse died a long time ago, stop beating it.
My point is; most companies don't have the geek resources, or the desire, to do the same as Google have.
Man, I wish we did.
Being an Oracle DBA, I wish I could argue you with you. I like Oracle's database technology, but the cost has gotten out of hand. Fortunately my employer has a very reasonable bulk licensing deal with them. If we had to pay the "going rate" according to Oracle I'd be drafting up a migration strategy.
I would contend that it is actually greater than most people in this forum think. In my career, I've worked with many proprietary vendors who have bent over backwards for their clients. How much they bend has always been a function for how big of a customer the client is and how big the vendor is. Proprietary software vendors, especially the small shops are typically extremely flexible and responsive to their customers. In my own experiences, I've found small software vendors who depend on your dime to be much more open and responsive than all but the most accomodating open source projects.
Modern Linux distros (and other similar) operating systems are easier to install, configure and maintain that the MS variants I've observed.
Maybe for you and me, but for an IT department built around Windows with experienced windows administrators that is definitely not the case. I've seen Nix geeks struggle with basic problems in Windows and Windows geeks struggle with basic problems in Nix. Its all relative and your data point is not true for everyone.
Heather Graham -> Who needs the voice acting, show me the body and I'll preorder tomorrow.
Why? We'll just get someone to write a virus on his powerbook, steal an alien fighter, fly up to the alien mothership and upload it. No bombs necessary.
Not to mention we will never use them.
(I hope)
A-M-E-N!
;)
I've got two kids and if you can't trust the sitter, find someone else or don't go. Granted, I'm one of the lucky ones, both my wife and I come from large families that all live close by.
The point of getting out as a couple is to enjoy yourself. If you're going to spend the whole time checking up on the kids and none of that time talking to your significant other, your marriage WILL disintegrate.
That being said, If you suspect something is up, by all means set up the monitoring. Then again, if you suspect something is up don't knowingly put your kid in a potentially hazardous situation.
===
But feel free to monitor your wife and share the link.
Its just a matter of time before someone puts a little too much juice through the wire and creates SUPER-CORAL (tm). A coral so strong and viral that it will no longer be content to stay in the water. It will spread to the land and we will have the fight of our lives on our hands.
God I hope Michael Bay doesn't read this.
I don't believe there is any shortage of extremely talented IT pros in California. There certainly isn't in MA.
But if he cuts costs he can cut taxes and what Republican doesn't like to cut taxes.
Besides have you seen the California budget? YIKES! They could replace all the laptops with etch-a-sketches and barely make a dent in their IT budget.
Having worked in the legal field for some time, I can say that clients rarely tell their attorney's the truth. (especially plaintiffs in civil suits and defendants in criminal ones) Being a technical matter, I highly doubt their attorney's knew what hit them until it was too late.