I tried PC-BSD right before I tried Gentoo. Believe it or not, my first ever Gentoo was better than PC-BSD. Drivers for everything. Good guides. Decent configuration. No insane lock-ups. No ugly KDE. It just looked better, felt better and was better. God, I hate KDE, can't even look at it enough to get an alternative. (I don't run Gnome or XFCE or anything else either, btw).
I am Portuguese. I live in Portugal and I always have. I am one of the many here who openly target the government and the corruption that has hit our country (which, it seems, is even less than the one that reaches some other big-shot countries). However, we are not a pseudo-country, even though we are going broke. Some of the greatest minds of the world come from here -- and some don't. We were important in many historical aspects -- did you know, for instance, that the first solar panel was created here? Literature prize winners? Bright mind scientists travelling around the world to spread their discoveries in many areas. We are known for being a caring and sentimental people, but also very lazy. However, some of our "lazyness" becomes "desenrascanço", which basically means "working with what we've got". A couple of months ago some countries in Europe published announcements specifically for the Portuguese because of this particular characteristic. We've seen some of the best poets in the world born in this land and, more importantly, love this land (Pessoa, Camões and many many others). In recent years, we've triumphed at sports more often than we used to, and we've also started having some good success in founding IT companies. Our universities are ranked in the top 10 of Europe -- probably above many of those "real-countries". Our problem is, like I said, corruption, but that doesn't mean we're a pseudo-country. You wish you'd had the good part of our story. Now the bad part, I'm not so sure of.
In spite of your anonimity and criticism, it is indeed true: computers are not essential to the learning process. Not in here and not anywhere. They're *useful*, which is quite different.
Here in Portugal, we don't need computers to learn. It's been a fad in recent years, but we've still been able to carry the best geniuses from this little country to the whole world.
I've only seen computers being used to project simple slideshows and videos -- and most of the professors who knew how to do that also knew how to do the same in Linux. For the students to learn, they don't need computers. It's that simple, believe me. No parents will complain because they're not learning -- at least not because of computers.
Now, the teachers do need computers to insert student information (presences, summaries, etc), but they do not need that to teach. In rare cases, some teachers place useful information in "Moodle", but that can be done from any PC.
This goes to show your research was filled with crap. Done.
It is true. I'm a University student from Portugal and in recent years all schools (+highschools) have been filled with Windows and Linux dual-booting. Windows almost always dual-boots with "Caixa Mágica" (a Portuguese Linux distro). What I see, though, is that nobody ever uses (nor knows how to do so) this Linux distro. It's just an option at the bootscreen, one that's rarely ever used...
Besides that, teachers often run away from something so strange as "Linux". Some can barely even do basic work in Windows, how will the be able to do so without finding their patterns (big red cross, big blue windows, exact menus) in Linux? I'm a FLOSS maniac, but I doubt that this will do anything good...unfortunately.
And, in spite of your low uid, you still managed to spell "you're" as "your". Geez, calm down, it seems that nowadays we have to protect all the idiots who don't spell right. "oh my, he spelled that wrong, don't bash him or you're an idiot". Please, you get a LIFE!
While I agree with you, I don't *need* Linux to take off. In fact, it is sometimes better for us to have our OSes. Generally, when something very good hits the masses, a big portion of the masses are idiots or just not experienced on the subject. This means that this "very good something" starts adapting itself to the masses and leaving us, first adopters, behind. I fear that if Linux starts getting used by too many people who don't know anything about it or its ideology, then these values will become distorted and all there will be left of them is a small minority of people who still use "oldschool" because "it was before the masses got to it". I'm not sure if I made my point.
Yes, I know, that's the funny bit: he requested a bunch of users who probably will only go there once to tell him what's going on. That's going to be a lot of spam!
Polymorphism is cute, but it sure looks lame next to what Functional Programming can do.
Mind of opinion. It just pisses me off that people keep saying these things as facts. Go back to your Functional Programming if that's what's good for you. Leave those who like OOP (even if done in plain C) to themselves. And the same goes for those OOP-bastards that pick on Functional programming "dudes".
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I tried PC-BSD right before I tried Gentoo. Believe it or not, my first ever Gentoo was better than PC-BSD. Drivers for everything. Good guides. Decent configuration. No insane lock-ups. No ugly KDE. It just looked better, felt better and was better. God, I hate KDE, can't even look at it enough to get an alternative. (I don't run Gnome or XFCE or anything else either, btw).
I use Gentoo in 6 machines and I don't fit that description ;)
Ah, good old pointless hating!
Europeans. And we founded you, eh?
In here, DVDs still cost more than CDs.
I am Portuguese. I live in Portugal and I always have. I am one of the many here who openly target the government and the corruption that has hit our country (which, it seems, is even less than the one that reaches some other big-shot countries). However, we are not a pseudo-country, even though we are going broke. Some of the greatest minds of the world come from here -- and some don't. We were important in many historical aspects -- did you know, for instance, that the first solar panel was created here? Literature prize winners? Bright mind scientists travelling around the world to spread their discoveries in many areas. We are known for being a caring and sentimental people, but also very lazy. However, some of our "lazyness" becomes "desenrascanço", which basically means "working with what we've got". A couple of months ago some countries in Europe published announcements specifically for the Portuguese because of this particular characteristic. We've seen some of the best poets in the world born in this land and, more importantly, love this land (Pessoa, Camões and many many others). In recent years, we've triumphed at sports more often than we used to, and we've also started having some good success in founding IT companies. Our universities are ranked in the top 10 of Europe -- probably above many of those "real-countries". Our problem is, like I said, corruption, but that doesn't mean we're a pseudo-country. You wish you'd had the good part of our story.
Now the bad part, I'm not so sure of.
I personally think this commenct was very funny. Too bad nobody's modded it up!
In spite of your anonimity and criticism, it is indeed true: computers are not essential to the learning process. Not in here and not anywhere. They're *useful*, which is quite different.
Here in Portugal, we don't need computers to learn. It's been a fad in recent years, but we've still been able to carry the best geniuses from this little country to the whole world.
I've only seen computers being used to project simple slideshows and videos -- and most of the professors who knew how to do that also knew how to do the same in Linux. For the students to learn, they don't need computers. It's that simple, believe me. No parents will complain because they're not learning -- at least not because of computers.
Now, the teachers do need computers to insert student information (presences, summaries, etc), but they do not need that to teach. In rare cases, some teachers place useful information in "Moodle", but that can be done from any PC.
This goes to show your research was filled with crap. Done.
It is true. I'm a University student from Portugal and in recent years all schools (+highschools) have been filled with Windows and Linux dual-booting. Windows almost always dual-boots with "Caixa Mágica" (a Portuguese Linux distro). What I see, though, is that nobody ever uses (nor knows how to do so) this Linux distro. It's just an option at the bootscreen, one that's rarely ever used...
Besides that, teachers often run away from something so strange as "Linux". Some can barely even do basic work in Windows, how will the be able to do so without finding their patterns (big red cross, big blue windows, exact menus) in Linux? I'm a FLOSS maniac, but I doubt that this will do anything good...unfortunately.
And, in spite of your low uid, you still managed to spell "you're" as "your". Geez, calm down, it seems that nowadays we have to protect all the idiots who don't spell right. "oh my, he spelled that wrong, don't bash him or you're an idiot". Please, you get a LIFE!
DONE TALKING..
Two words: Not True.
While I agree with you, I don't *need* Linux to take off. In fact, it is sometimes better for us to have our OSes. Generally, when something very good hits the masses, a big portion of the masses are idiots or just not experienced on the subject. This means that this "very good something" starts adapting itself to the masses and leaving us, first adopters, behind. I fear that if Linux starts getting used by too many people who don't know anything about it or its ideology, then these values will become distorted and all there will be left of them is a small minority of people who still use "oldschool" because "it was before the masses got to it". I'm not sure if I made my point.
It's not all about the money. It's an ethical issue.
"Haters gonna hate".
When does grammar becoming trashing?
Yes, I know, that's the funny bit: he requested a bunch of users who probably will only go there once to tell him what's going on. That's going to be a lot of spam!
Seriously? You're asking "What has happened?". You're slashdotted! And you made the mistake of ASKING US TO SPAM YOU WITH ANSWERS!!
Oh boy, double fail!
Polymorphism is cute, but it sure looks lame next to what Functional Programming can do.
Mind of opinion. It just pisses me off that people keep saying these things as facts. Go back to your Functional Programming if that's what's good for you. Leave those who like OOP (even if done in plain C) to themselves. And the same goes for those OOP-bastards that pick on Functional programming "dudes".
It's funny. When it's in the USA you go even to the city-name. When it's outside, you pick the name that you can flame against the better.
Shame on you.
I can has your sweet sweet genes?
Look. It goes like this.
OMG Ponies!
Mod parent up!!
Sorry, I can't hear you! Your ego is too big! What's that? A bi-party system in which everyone's the same and the people loses? Oh my!