If 128kbps were really considered "laughable crap", do you think HA would be having this listening test? Obviously there's some merit to the claims that good 128kbps codecs are indistinguishable from the original. Also how in the world could you call this scientific test pseudoscience? This test is the opposite of pseudoscience. These tests are designed to shut up the audiophiles who you're complaining about.
I agree, I care more about movie quality and storage space than the time it takes to burn. 45 minutes is fine with me, I can wait. Also, Pioneer doesn't make +R drives since they're the big name behind the -R standard.
So you're saying that the most likely explanation is that the operator of the tracker maliciously publishes bogus IPs in the hope that copyright owners will send DMCA notices to the IP owners. Uh-huh.
As I've said in EVERY response in this thread, I think ogg is a good codec but it just doesn't eclipse MP3 yet. One of these reasons is device support, no other codec can touch MP3's penetration into the device market. If I want a tune that will play on my discman, my tivo, and in my car, there's only one format that fits the bill. Bitrate is a relatively minor concern.
Sure they can. They have the lawyers, and you don't. Also bittorrent performs hashing on the files, so unless you specifically hacked your client to report bogus files to the tracker, it would actually start downloading the copyrighted file. The bittorrent protocol doesn't even care about the filename.
Now what is more likely? You were downloading a movie, or you hacked your bittorrent client so that it would connect to a tracker and SAY you were downloading that movie, without actually downloading it?
But they are required to remove the content somehow. Would you prefer that they just cut off a subscriber's Internet access as soon as they received a notification letter?
Listen I'm not saying ogg is bad, but you are denying reality if you think that the quality is the same between ogg and mp3 at the same bitrate. I trust the people on HydrogenAudio, I guarantee they care more about quality than either of us. They perform blind listening tests all the time and they've concluded that mp3 sounds better than ogg at a given bitrate. So no, ogg doesn't sound "at least" as good as mp3. As for your other points:
Lame is free, and going to stay that way. Standard mp3 doesn't track people, and it never will. We control Lame, so we can change it. It's open source too, if you've forgotten.
Now if you absolutely must have patent-free audio, ogg is a fine choice but don't go around saying it sounds better than MP3.
Fraunhofer's super mp3 won't have any effect on regular mp3, and I doubt anyone will even use it.
Where does it say anything about you having to send an apology and an explanation? This is just a standard DMCA notification letter, which Comcast is REQUIRED to send in order to be protected from lawsuits by copyright holders. You have a right to send a counter-notification, which is a formal statement that they're accusing you in error. Usually you don't have to do anything about these letters, aside from the obvious step of not sharing copyrighted material online. This looks like a standard DMCA letter, ISPs have been sending these out for years.
Ogg is a competitor, but I don't think any rational person would say that ogg "eclipses" MP3 at similar bitrates. The consensus on hydrogenaudio is that ogg is very capable but currently requires higher bitrates to achieve the same quality as MP3.
Put another notch in the bedpost for the "Open source is ALWAYS better" mindset.
Maybe they lifted it because of complaints. Regardless of whether your specific YMCA lifted the ban, the fact is they have every right to ban whatever behavior they like from their premises. There is no law saying they must allow cell phones to be used.
Because a private organization cannot prevent you from using a legal FCC contracted product.
Which amendment gives you that right? Private organizations can make whatever rules they want while you're on their premises. Think dress codes in restaurants, loitering in stores, etc. Plenty of health clubs have cell phone bans.
They have to defend the Mozilla trademark, I'm sure the lawyers told them to cover their ass and do it already, so they did it. It doesn't seem any more complicated than that.
It's a rare case where it's cheaper to rewrite an entire project than wait a year and buy a new MS license. It's too bad about everyone getting burned with SA but do you think that companies are simply going to ditch all their SQL2K projects because they're not getting Yukon?
Basically you're saying that anyone who disagrees with you is "discouraging debate." Excellent doublespeak, you should run for office some day. Remember: Think of the children! If banning Freenet saves just one child, it'll be worth it.
It's a step in the right direction, if you call socialism the right direction. This is one more unrealistic attempt to control how businesses operate, rather than to let businesses and consumers decide what personal information to share. The end result is an increase to the cost of doing business because of yet another pointless rule that companies have to adhere to. Look at something like HIPAA in the United States, which is massively and unnecessarily increasing overheads in healthcare costs, for no reason but nebulous "privacy concerns."
Frankly, names for software don't matter. Look at some successful ones. What the fuck is an ICQ? I seek you, I know, but it's stupid. What the fuck is a Kazaa? An Edonkey 2000? A Linux? GNU is fucking unpronouncable so anything with GNU in the title is out.
Even the evil empire isn't immune from bad software naming choices..NET was a branding nightmare, as evidenced by the switch from "Windows.NET Server" to "Windows Server 2003." Which by the way, switches around the year and the product: "Windows 2000 Server" is followed by "Windows Server 2003." And don't forget Microsoft's completely fucking random method of using version numbers, letters, or years for products: Windows 3.1 -> 95 -> 98 -> 98SE -> ME, and NT 3.5 -> 4.0 -> 2000 -> XP -> 2003. Any bets on what the next desktop OS "Longhorn" will be named? Could be Windows 2005, Windows XPSE.NET, Windows 6.0 Professional, hell, they're even considering Windows RG. My bet is on Windows FX though.
Come on though, at least FireFox is pronouncable. Unlike such winners as SUSE, Linux (I know YOU know how to pronounce it but chances are your mother doesn't), Kazaa, and EVERY FUCKING KDE APP. What happens when you put a fucking K in front of everything's name? You get a koffice, and a kbrowser, and a kmicrowave, and a kshutthefuckup.
I'm just wondering how easy it is for the administrative staff to use SQL Ledger. I looked at some of the screenshots and, while better than many OSS packages, it still looks much worse than say, Quickbooks, or Great Plains. Administrative staff being notoriously bad at using software, does this pose a problem for day to day activities such as sales order processing and accounts receivable?
Also, would an auditor or a lender have a problem with a business using an open source accounting package?
DVD rentals are huge - people don't mind renting them. The problem is control. People want the option of keeping a movie, even if it means late fees. People want to be able to charge the disc to their credit card if it turns out they want to buy it. And plus, nobody trusts shit like self-destructing discs and DVD players that phone home - for good reason. People just want a solid disc that they understand, and have control over. Not something that turns itself into a coaster after a couple days.
I'm sure that some people here are laughing at Microsoft for its "lax security." Of course if you really wanted to protect a Word document you could use Office 2003's built-in encryption features, which rely on Windows Rights Management. Yet the people who criticize Microsoft for Word's "security hole" are also the most vocal opponents to anything having to do with trusted computing, including Windows Rights Management. You can't have it both ways, you know. You can either accept that Microsoft's WRM already has a solution to this issue, or you decide that the additional security that WRM provides isn't worth the imagined "privacy and freedom" implications. But don't say that MS should make their file formats more secure while at the same time dismissing WRM.
Wow. It's just amazing to me how the Linux community supports the wholesale theft of SCO's intellectual property, while it cries foul when a hardware vendor decides not to submit source code along with a driver. Talk about a double standard.
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If 128kbps were really considered "laughable crap", do you think HA would be having this listening test? Obviously there's some merit to the claims that good 128kbps codecs are indistinguishable from the original. Also how in the world could you call this scientific test pseudoscience? This test is the opposite of pseudoscience. These tests are designed to shut up the audiophiles who you're complaining about.
I agree, I care more about movie quality and storage space than the time it takes to burn. 45 minutes is fine with me, I can wait. Also, Pioneer doesn't make +R drives since they're the big name behind the -R standard.
So you're saying that the most likely explanation is that the operator of the tracker maliciously publishes bogus IPs in the hope that copyright owners will send DMCA notices to the IP owners. Uh-huh.
You give "slashdotters" waaay too much credit.
Device support mostly.
As I've said in EVERY response in this thread, I think ogg is a good codec but it just doesn't eclipse MP3 yet. One of these reasons is device support, no other codec can touch MP3's penetration into the device market. If I want a tune that will play on my discman, my tivo, and in my car, there's only one format that fits the bill. Bitrate is a relatively minor concern.
Sure they can. They have the lawyers, and you don't. Also bittorrent performs hashing on the files, so unless you specifically hacked your client to report bogus files to the tracker, it would actually start downloading the copyrighted file. The bittorrent protocol doesn't even care about the filename.
Now what is more likely? You were downloading a movie, or you hacked your bittorrent client so that it would connect to a tracker and SAY you were downloading that movie, without actually downloading it?
But they are required to remove the content somehow. Would you prefer that they just cut off a subscriber's Internet access as soon as they received a notification letter?
Another open source fetishist.
Listen I'm not saying ogg is bad, but you are denying reality if you think that the quality is the same between ogg and mp3 at the same bitrate. I trust the people on HydrogenAudio, I guarantee they care more about quality than either of us. They perform blind listening tests all the time and they've concluded that mp3 sounds better than ogg at a given bitrate. So no, ogg doesn't sound "at least" as good as mp3. As for your other points:
Lame is free, and going to stay that way.
Standard mp3 doesn't track people, and it never will.
We control Lame, so we can change it. It's open source too, if you've forgotten.
Now if you absolutely must have patent-free audio, ogg is a fine choice but don't go around saying it sounds better than MP3.
Fraunhofer's super mp3 won't have any effect on regular mp3, and I doubt anyone will even use it.
Where does it say anything about you having to send an apology and an explanation? This is just a standard DMCA notification letter, which Comcast is REQUIRED to send in order to be protected from lawsuits by copyright holders. You have a right to send a counter-notification, which is a formal statement that they're accusing you in error. Usually you don't have to do anything about these letters, aside from the obvious step of not sharing copyrighted material online. This looks like a standard DMCA letter, ISPs have been sending these out for years.
Ogg is a competitor, but I don't think any rational person would say that ogg "eclipses" MP3 at similar bitrates. The consensus on hydrogenaudio is that ogg is very capable but currently requires higher bitrates to achieve the same quality as MP3.
Put another notch in the bedpost for the "Open source is ALWAYS better" mindset.
It works with my WG511 using the latest drivers.
What the hell is the difference between preventing you from using your cell phone and kicking you out after you use it?
Maybe they lifted it because of complaints. Regardless of whether your specific YMCA lifted the ban, the fact is they have every right to ban whatever behavior they like from their premises. There is no law saying they must allow cell phones to be used.
Which amendment gives you that right? Private organizations can make whatever rules they want while you're on their premises. Think dress codes in restaurants, loitering in stores, etc. Plenty of health clubs have cell phone bans.
Oh wow, you suggested it SIX MONTHS AGO! What a great idea you had, because nobody has ever done that before.
They have to defend the Mozilla trademark, I'm sure the lawyers told them to cover their ass and do it already, so they did it. It doesn't seem any more complicated than that.
It's a rare case where it's cheaper to rewrite an entire project than wait a year and buy a new MS license. It's too bad about everyone getting burned with SA but do you think that companies are simply going to ditch all their SQL2K projects because they're not getting Yukon?
Basically you're saying that anyone who disagrees with you is "discouraging debate." Excellent doublespeak, you should run for office some day. Remember: Think of the children! If banning Freenet saves just one child, it'll be worth it.
It's a step in the right direction, if you call socialism the right direction. This is one more unrealistic attempt to control how businesses operate, rather than to let businesses and consumers decide what personal information to share. The end result is an increase to the cost of doing business because of yet another pointless rule that companies have to adhere to. Look at something like HIPAA in the United States, which is massively and unnecessarily increasing overheads in healthcare costs, for no reason but nebulous "privacy concerns."
I think we're all jaded by unpronouncable acronyms since Berners-Lee picked the only three letters that take nine syllables to pronounce: W-W-W.
Also, self-referential acronyms fucking blow.
Frankly, names for software don't matter. Look at some successful ones. What the fuck is an ICQ? I seek you, I know, but it's stupid. What the fuck is a Kazaa? An Edonkey 2000? A Linux? GNU is fucking unpronouncable so anything with GNU in the title is out.
.NET was a branding nightmare, as evidenced by the switch from "Windows .NET Server" to "Windows Server 2003." Which by the way, switches around the year and the product: "Windows 2000 Server" is followed by "Windows Server 2003." And don't forget Microsoft's completely fucking random method of using version numbers, letters, or years for products: Windows 3.1 -> 95 -> 98 -> 98SE -> ME, and NT 3.5 -> 4.0 -> 2000 -> XP -> 2003. Any bets on what the next desktop OS "Longhorn" will be named? Could be Windows 2005, Windows XPSE.NET, Windows 6.0 Professional, hell, they're even considering Windows RG. My bet is on Windows FX though.
Even the evil empire isn't immune from bad software naming choices.
Come on though, at least FireFox is pronouncable. Unlike such winners as SUSE, Linux (I know YOU know how to pronounce it but chances are your mother doesn't), Kazaa, and EVERY FUCKING KDE APP. What happens when you put a fucking K in front of everything's name? You get a koffice, and a kbrowser, and a kmicrowave, and a kshutthefuckup.
I'm just wondering how easy it is for the administrative staff to use SQL Ledger. I looked at some of the screenshots and, while better than many OSS packages, it still looks much worse than say, Quickbooks, or Great Plains. Administrative staff being notoriously bad at using software, does this pose a problem for day to day activities such as sales order processing and accounts receivable?
Also, would an auditor or a lender have a problem with a business using an open source accounting package?
DVD rentals are huge - people don't mind renting them. The problem is control. People want the option of keeping a movie, even if it means late fees. People want to be able to charge the disc to their credit card if it turns out they want to buy it. And plus, nobody trusts shit like self-destructing discs and DVD players that phone home - for good reason. People just want a solid disc that they understand, and have control over. Not something that turns itself into a coaster after a couple days.
I'm sure that some people here are laughing at Microsoft for its "lax security." Of course if you really wanted to protect a Word document you could use Office 2003's built-in encryption features, which rely on Windows Rights Management. Yet the people who criticize Microsoft for Word's "security hole" are also the most vocal opponents to anything having to do with trusted computing, including Windows Rights Management. You can't have it both ways, you know. You can either accept that Microsoft's WRM already has a solution to this issue, or you decide that the additional security that WRM provides isn't worth the imagined "privacy and freedom" implications. But don't say that MS should make their file formats more secure while at the same time dismissing WRM.
Wow. It's just amazing to me how the Linux community supports the wholesale theft of SCO's intellectual property, while it cries foul when a hardware vendor decides not to submit source code along with a driver. Talk about a double standard.