People on BT together option 1 can save 3p per minute in the daytime and 5.5p per call off peak by making calls through BT communicator.
People on option 2 get free evening and weekend calls, but can still save 3p per minute by making their daytime calls through BT communicator.
People on option 3 get all their calls to landlines included, but they can save 15 pounds per month by dropping their line rental and making all their calls to landlines through BT communicator.
Does anyone happen to know if you get Demon or any non BT ADSL can you keep the BT line? There's no such thing* as non-BT ADSL in the UK, if you get Demon or some other ADSL, it's really BT ADSL with the Demon name on it, and you still have to pay BT for the phone line.
*It is now possible to pay Bullldog for your phone line and your DSL without paying BT in a very limited number of places, but it is still sort of BT, since Bulldog has to put their equipment in a BT exchange and pay BT rental for the line and for a connection into the network...
They have come down to a more reasonable price now, comparable to ordinary calls.
Er, no, they haven't. Ofcom investigated mobile termination fees, the fees that mobile networks charge other phone companies for calling them. Ofcom ordered them to cut prices, by 2005, so no prices have changed yet. Remember, these are fees that some phone companies charge other phone companies, so no prices that you or I pay have to change.
Vodafone and O2 must reduce average termination charges from around 8p a minute to 5.63p a minute, while T-Mobile and Orange must cut their charges from 9.5p to 6.31p a minute. All four must implement the cuts by March 2005.
DamnYankee wrote: There are many other (and more appropriate) places than the Sveasoft forums to discuss GPL issues, such as here on Slashdot.
Then lets discuss it here on Slashdot. Why is Sveasoft abusing the GPL like this? The Sveasoft code is clearly modifications to GPL software, and while they have the right to charge for the software and the right to restrict distribution to whom they chose, their customers have the right under the GPL to pass on the software to whoever the hell they like. Can you dispute that? Can you back up what you claim?
Why is Sveasoft resorting to dirty claims of hacking and copyright violation to get mirrors cut off when (a) the mirrors are perfectly legal and (b) they know full well that no hacking has taken place?
Anonymous coward said: Since you are quick to point this out, why don't you go first and try it with your government instead?
To be honest I was just pushing to see what happened. But it brings up a real point.
I'm politicaly active. I'm a member of several pressure groups, I take part in protests in person, and I write to my MP's (members of parliment) regularly and actually get answers from them. It's not armed revolution, but it's a whole lot more than most good little worker drones are doing.
I think now may be the time to remind all you Americans that your constitution specifically grants you the right to bear arms as part of a militia just in case your government gets too powerful and starts seizing powers that it has no right to.
I'm just pointing that out, thats all. It's in your constitution.
I'll get ready for that visit from the police now.
where the used-up fuel is dangerous for generations.
The used up fuel is only dangerous for generations because it isn't used up. There's nothing stopping the nuclear industry reprocessing spent nuclear fuel many times over so that radioactive waste is reduced to a fraction of what it is now, and useful energy output is many times greater per kilogram of fuel than what we get at the moment. The only reason that we don't do that is because the reprocessing is the same process as is used for making nuclear weapons.
Now, for one of those things you think of, but never would do: someone needs to write a virus that will specifically target some of these Win-based ATMs. It spreads as a normal virus, but once it recognizes that it's on an ATM, it delays for ~24 hours, then kicks the cash dispenser into high gear, until the machine is empty...
I can see that you are trying to make a point about the insecurity of windows, but given what you do for a living I would be very surprised if that comment didn't get you in serious trouble if your boss saw it.
The headline is misleading. The change that the BBC is referring to is that the the government will not make the ID card the same item as the passport and the driving license like the government was originally planning.
What has not changed is that anyone applying for a passport will still have to submit to biometric data collection, pay an extra fee for a new card, and be issued an ID card. The Register is more informative on the subject than the BBC in this case.
David Blunkett is still ignoring criticism of the scheme from the Home Office Affairs Committee, the public consultation, and thousands of people writing in to object. Not only that, but he knows that most of the members of parliment object as well so he has lied constantly about what the card will be and do in order to get parliment to accept it. It started out as an imigrants entitlement card, then an NHS card, then a voluntary ID card, and now it's to be compulsory to be issued a card but not to carry it. Expect that to change soon after everyone has one.
That's just it - nearly two hours is considered a terrible power outage to be complained about and remembered for years to come.
Most power cuts in the UK are incredibly small. They come as a little blip in the middle of a thunderstorm where the lights flicker once and the VCR clock resets. My laptop doesn't even notice it. The worst powercuts I can every remember are directly tied to the worst weather I can ever remember, exactly twice in my lifetime: the 1987 hurricanes, (I was in a town, power was back by morning) and the 1990 blizzards / hurricanes which knocked down the power lines in rural Worcestershire. (Power off for 3 days.)
The kind of powercut that people here are talking about protecting against hardly ever happens in this country. If it ever did, I've got an oil lamp, some pasta and tinned food, a gas cooker, and a big coat. The power will be back on before I can get internet withdrawal symptoms.
Officially the UK now runs at 230 volts to be harmonised with Europe. Half the time, however, it hasn't changed from the 240 volts we have been using for the last 60 years (Before that it was 250 volts)
Across Europe the official standard now is 230 volts -6% +10%
This range therefore includes the whole range of all European countries including 220 volts, 230 volts and 240 volts. The standards are deliberately slack so that we can all say we have harmonised voltages but actually keep our original one. How stupid are these politicians???
We still have a bloody good power system left over from when it was government run. (before Thatcher privatised everything.) The private companies haven't quite run it all into the ground yet, so power cuts are not common in the UK. The only way I can see us not generating enough power is through our dependance on natural gas, but even then we can draw power from France and Europe where they have more nuclear power, as do we.
Never the less, I have seen no mention in the press of potential huge power cuts across the UK. I used to live in the middle of rural Worcestershire supplied by an overhead power line, and we had _one_ big power cut of more than a few hours, caused by the huge snow storms of 1990 / 1991 knocking the line down. (Can't remember which year, I was 11.) Most of the power cuts in the UK last about 5 seconds. We don't get brownouts and we rarely get blackouts.
What power interruptions? I think you are talking rubbish. If you aren't, then the press are. We are in a first world country with a decent infrastructure and it is extremely unlikely that we will have mass powercuts. Unless you live in the middle of nowhere and are supplied by one overhead power line, make sure your computer is on a UPS and stop worrying about it.
Skype doesn't doesn't communicate with any standard SIP service, I don't think it uses SIP at all. It uses their own proprietry protocol encrypted with AES.
No. The wires that carry mains electricity may be twisted, but they are carrying the same signal. Twisted pair works by twisting together the line carrying the signal with a ground line or a line carrying the opposite of the signal. So in the case of overhead mains power lins it won't help at all.
Not quite. The cable and satellite channels are more or less free of regulation over what content the choose to put on. Of course they are regulated as to maximum amount of advertising, (slightly higher than terestrial channels) truthfullness of advertising, and legality of content, just like anywhere else.
Well that's more or less the distribution on British cable and satellite. That doesn't mean that it isn't American sitcoms, reality TV and repeats in those categories.
I was going to say I'm not counting the music channels in that, but thinking about it, even they are full of endless repeats of the same "hit" single again and again and again. It's just whichever one the RIAA / BPI wants us to buy this week.
Even the religious channels are repeats of old worship meetings and old talks.
The BBC's channels are broadcast on Sky, and it pays Sky for this service
The BBC recently moved it's services onto their own satellite transponders independant of Sky. They have six transponders on Astra 2D. I believe they still pay Sky a fee to appear on the Onscreen Listings.
It honestly isn't quite as bad as all that. Yes, if you have a TV you are required by law to have a license. Since you will almost certainly be watching the BBC if you have a TV, that's fair enough. In exchange you get uninterupted films without adverts. You get the Simpsons without adverts. You get quality documentries, drama, comedy and news. (You know what I'm talking about, I know you all watch BBC stuff in America.)
If you don't have a TV you don't need a license. If you don't use a TV you don't need a license either. You don't even need a license if you have a TV, you use a TV to watch DVD's and play games, but you don't have it plugged into an arial or use it to watch broadcast programmes. Of course the difficult part is making sure that you don't get suckered by the TV Licensing people into believing otherwise. They will send you lots of letters, and they may well come round.
The trick is to know that: 1) You don't have to talk to them. 2) You don't have to sign the record of conversation that they want you to sign. 3) They have no right of entry until they come back with a court order and a policeman. Which they won't. 4) They won't bother to take you to court if you don't comply with the above, because you scare them.
The license enforcers are low-life blood-sucking scum that target low income areas where they know that they will find single mothers that don't know their rights, and will not turn up in court to defend themselves. Easy pickings for the one thousand pound fine. People that turn up and defend themselves end up appealing to the house of lords and taking years to get through, never paying the fine as a result.
Quantity of channels isn't everything. In Britain a majority of people have only five channels of TV. Two of those are BBC channels paid for by the license fee, one (Channel 4) is mostly owned by the government and the other two are entirely privately owned but have government controls that limit their advertising and control minimum levels of news and public service broadcasts. The programmes available on these channels is largely intelligent, informative, entertaining, and not repeated too often. We also can go for longer than five minutes without getting the attention span beaten out of us with advertising.
We also have Cable, Satellite and Digital Terrestrial TV available, with huge numbers of channels. With the exception of Digital Terestrial, it's nearly* all crap. It's filled wall to wall with American sitcoms, reality TV, and endless repeats.
Freeview (Digital Terestrial) TV looks like it might be a way out of this largely because it is limited in the broadcase bandwidth available but it still has quite a large number of repeats.
Given the choice between US style programmes repeated endlessly on hundreds of channels, or a few channels of quality programmes paid for through the BBC and other state-mandated (not controlled) expenses, I will go for what we have.
*Note that I said nearly. Sky One happens to show some things I want to watch, like Buffy, the Simpsons and Stargate Atlantis and it doesn't put too much advertising in it's frontline shows. It does however repeat them each about 8 times across two channels, with much more advertising.
There is no reason to attribute Christianity to impaired thinking on the part of Christians just because their opinion does not match up with yours.
Calling someone mentally ill because their beliefs are different from yours is merely bad debate. Freedom of speech and religion means that other people are entitled to be Christians even if you don't want to be, and they are entitled to be that without being accused of mental illness.
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Actually, all BT customers can benefit from this.
People on BT together option 1 can save 3p per minute in the daytime and 5.5p per call off peak by making calls through BT communicator.
People on option 2 get free evening and weekend calls, but can still save 3p per minute by making their daytime calls through BT communicator.
People on option 3 get all their calls to landlines included, but they can save 15 pounds per month by dropping their line rental and making all their calls to landlines through BT communicator.
There's no such thing* as non-BT ADSL in the UK, if you get Demon or some other ADSL, it's really BT ADSL with the Demon name on it, and you still have to pay BT for the phone line.
*It is now possible to pay Bullldog for your phone line and your DSL without paying BT in a very limited number of places, but it is still sort of BT, since Bulldog has to put their equipment in a BT exchange and pay BT rental for the line and for a connection into the network...
Er, no, they haven't. Ofcom investigated mobile termination fees, the fees that mobile networks charge other phone companies for calling them. Ofcom ordered them to cut prices, by 2005, so no prices have changed yet. Remember, these are fees that some phone companies charge other phone companies, so no prices that you or I pay have to change.
To directly quote from the Register article on the subject:
Then lets discuss it here on Slashdot. Why is Sveasoft abusing the GPL like this? The Sveasoft code is clearly modifications to GPL software, and while they have the right to charge for the software and the right to restrict distribution to whom they chose, their customers have the right under the GPL to pass on the software to whoever the hell they like. Can you dispute that? Can you back up what you claim?
Why is Sveasoft resorting to dirty claims of hacking and copyright violation to get mirrors cut off when (a) the mirrors are perfectly legal and (b) they know full well that no hacking has taken place?
I await your non-answer with baited breath.
To be honest I was just pushing to see what happened. But it brings up a real point.
I'm politicaly active. I'm a member of several pressure groups, I take part in protests in person, and I write to my MP's (members of parliment) regularly and actually get answers from them. It's not armed revolution, but it's a whole lot more than most good little worker drones are doing.
What are you doing about *your* government?
I think now may be the time to remind all you Americans that your constitution specifically grants you the right to bear arms as part of a militia just in case your government gets too powerful and starts seizing powers that it has no right to.
I'm just pointing that out, thats all. It's in your constitution.
I'll get ready for that visit from the police now.
Steve.
where the used-up fuel is dangerous for generations.
The used up fuel is only dangerous for generations because it isn't used up. There's nothing stopping the nuclear industry reprocessing spent nuclear fuel many times over so that radioactive waste is reduced to a fraction of what it is now, and useful energy output is many times greater per kilogram of fuel than what we get at the moment. The only reason that we don't do that is because the reprocessing is the same process as is used for making nuclear weapons.
Now, for one of those things you think of, but never would do: someone needs to write a virus that will specifically target some of these Win-based ATMs. It spreads as a normal virus, but once it recognizes that it's on an ATM, it delays for ~24 hours, then kicks the cash dispenser into high gear, until the machine is empty...
I can see that you are trying to make a point about the insecurity of windows, but given what you do for a living I would be very surprised if that comment didn't get you in serious trouble if your boss saw it.
David Blunkett is not backing down on ID cards.
The headline is misleading. The change that the BBC is referring to is that the the government will not make the ID card the same item as the passport and the driving license like the government was originally planning.
What has not changed is that anyone applying for a passport will still have to submit to biometric data collection, pay an extra fee for a new card, and be issued an ID card. The Register is more informative on the subject than the BBC in this case.
David Blunkett is still ignoring criticism of the scheme from the Home Office Affairs Committee, the public consultation, and thousands of people writing in to object. Not only that, but he knows that most of the members of parliment object as well so he has lied constantly about what the card will be and do in order to get parliment to accept it. It started out as an imigrants entitlement card, then an NHS card, then a voluntary ID card, and now it's to be compulsory to be issued a card but not to carry it. Expect that to change soon after everyone has one.
Yeah, I'll make a trade... I will stop trying to influence the US election when the US government stops fucking up the rest of the world.
the whole island lost power for nearly 2 hours
That's just it - nearly two hours is considered a terrible power outage to be complained about and remembered for years to come.
Most power cuts in the UK are incredibly small. They come as a little blip in the middle of a thunderstorm where the lights flicker once and the VCR clock resets. My laptop doesn't even notice it. The worst powercuts I can every remember are directly tied to the worst weather I can ever remember, exactly twice in my lifetime: the 1987 hurricanes, (I was in a town, power was back by morning) and the 1990 blizzards / hurricanes which knocked down the power lines in rural Worcestershire. (Power off for 3 days.)
The kind of powercut that people here are talking about protecting against hardly ever happens in this country. If it ever did, I've got an oil lamp, some pasta and tinned food, a gas cooker, and a big coat. The power will be back on before I can get internet withdrawal symptoms.
Officially the UK now runs at 230 volts to be harmonised with Europe. Half the time, however, it hasn't changed from the 240 volts we have been using for the last 60 years (Before that it was 250 volts)
Across Europe the official standard now is 230 volts -6% +10%
This range therefore includes the whole range of all European countries including 220 volts, 230 volts and 240 volts. The standards are deliberately slack so that we can all say we have harmonised voltages but actually keep our original one. How stupid are these politicians???
How is what happens in Canada relavent to my comment about the UK?
We still have a bloody good power system left over from when it was government run. (before Thatcher privatised everything.) The private companies haven't quite run it all into the ground yet, so power cuts are not common in the UK. The only way I can see us not generating enough power is through our dependance on natural gas, but even then we can draw power from France and Europe where they have more nuclear power, as do we.
Never the less, I have seen no mention in the press of potential huge power cuts across the UK. I used to live in the middle of rural Worcestershire supplied by an overhead power line, and we had _one_ big power cut of more than a few hours, caused by the huge snow storms of 1990 / 1991 knocking the line down. (Can't remember which year, I was 11.) Most of the power cuts in the UK last about 5 seconds. We don't get brownouts and we rarely get blackouts.
What power interruptions? I think you are talking rubbish. If you aren't, then the press are. We are in a first world country with a decent infrastructure and it is extremely unlikely that we will have mass powercuts. Unless you live in the middle of nowhere and are supplied by one overhead power line, make sure your computer is on a UPS and stop worrying about it.
Skype doesn't doesn't communicate with any standard SIP service, I don't think it uses SIP at all. It uses their own proprietry protocol encrypted with AES.
No. The wires that carry mains electricity may be twisted, but they are carrying the same signal. Twisted pair works by twisting together the line carrying the signal with a ground line or a line carrying the opposite of the signal. So in the case of overhead mains power lins it won't help at all.
Not quite. The cable and satellite channels are more or less free of regulation over what content the choose to put on. Of course they are regulated as to maximum amount of advertising, (slightly higher than terestrial channels) truthfullness of advertising, and legality of content, just like anywhere else.
Well that's more or less the distribution on British cable and satellite. That doesn't mean that it isn't American sitcoms, reality TV and repeats in those categories.
I was going to say I'm not counting the music channels in that, but thinking about it, even they are full of endless repeats of the same "hit" single again and again and again. It's just whichever one the RIAA / BPI wants us to buy this week.
Even the religious channels are repeats of old worship meetings and old talks.
The BBC's channels are broadcast on Sky, and it pays Sky for this service
The BBC recently moved it's services onto their own satellite transponders independant of Sky. They have six transponders on Astra 2D. I believe they still pay Sky a fee to appear on the Onscreen Listings.
It honestly isn't quite as bad as all that. Yes, if you have a TV you are required by law to have a license. Since you will almost certainly be watching the BBC if you have a TV, that's fair enough. In exchange you get uninterupted films without adverts. You get the Simpsons without adverts. You get quality documentries, drama, comedy and news. (You know what I'm talking about, I know you all watch BBC stuff in America.)
If you don't have a TV you don't need a license. If you don't use a TV you don't need a license either. You don't even need a license if you have a TV, you use a TV to watch DVD's and play games, but you don't have it plugged into an arial or use it to watch broadcast programmes. Of course the difficult part is making sure that you don't get suckered by the TV Licensing people into believing otherwise. They will send you lots of letters, and they may well come round.
The trick is to know that:
1) You don't have to talk to them.
2) You don't have to sign the record of conversation that they want you to sign.
3) They have no right of entry until they come back with a court order and a policeman. Which they won't.
4) They won't bother to take you to court if you don't comply with the above, because you scare them.
The license enforcers are low-life blood-sucking scum that target low income areas where they know that they will find single mothers that don't know their rights, and will not turn up in court to defend themselves. Easy pickings for the one thousand pound fine. People that turn up and defend themselves end up appealing to the house of lords and taking years to get through, never paying the fine as a result.
Quantity of channels isn't everything. In Britain a majority of people have only five channels of TV. Two of those are BBC channels paid for by the license fee, one (Channel 4) is mostly owned by the government and the other two are entirely privately owned but have government controls that limit their advertising and control minimum levels of news and public service broadcasts. The programmes available on these channels is largely intelligent, informative, entertaining, and not repeated too often. We also can go for longer than five minutes without getting the attention span beaten out of us with advertising.
We also have Cable, Satellite and Digital Terrestrial TV available, with huge numbers of channels. With the exception of Digital Terestrial, it's nearly* all crap. It's filled wall to wall with American sitcoms, reality TV, and endless repeats.
Freeview (Digital Terestrial) TV looks like it might be a way out of this largely because it is limited in the broadcase bandwidth available but it still has quite a large number of repeats.
Given the choice between US style programmes repeated endlessly on hundreds of channels, or a few channels of quality programmes paid for through the BBC and other state-mandated (not controlled) expenses, I will go for what we have.
*Note that I said nearly. Sky One happens to show some things I want to watch, like Buffy, the Simpsons and Stargate Atlantis and it doesn't put too much advertising in it's frontline shows. It does however repeat them each about 8 times across two channels, with much more advertising.
Does this cover Christianity?
There is no reason to attribute Christianity to impaired thinking on the part of Christians just because their opinion does not match up with yours.
Calling someone mentally ill because their beliefs are different from yours is merely bad debate. Freedom of speech and religion means that other people are entitled to be Christians even if you don't want to be, and they are entitled to be that without being accused of mental illness.
Don't forget that the laserdiscs come in PAL editions as well as NTSC!