What are they going to do if upper management doesn't provide one? Fire them? Lawl.
Abandon the company. Which is the likely scenario, Apple stock has skyrocketed, but since they don't pay dividends it's all about when to sell, and if Apple don't have a viable plan post-Jobs then now probably is a good time to sell.
Wrong. I can borrow against stock (and even buy a motor scooter or a computer).
I suppose, but the analogy to a motor scooter and computers still fails, you certainly don't buy stock for the same reason you buy those items since they depreciate, the idea is generally that stock you own will go up in value.
I can also buy more and more of the stock, so I eventually own 51% of the company. Then I can do a LOT of things.
If the stock were selling for fractions of a penny, I most certainly would do that.
That depends on how much stock there is, and if the stock is that low the company is likely going under so what's the point of owning it, it is - obviously given the stock price - almost worthless.
Um... the point of owning the stock is that you can choose to sell the stock, hopefully for more money. My motorscooter, my computers, and my collection of erotic Hummel figurines don't pay dividends either, but I own them, which means I can sell them.
I know what you mean but that is an awful analogy. You can't do anything with stock but trade it, at least your motorscooter and computers have uses - which is most likely what you got them for anyway.
As I said it's hyperbole. If it's part of the PSN signon it's not a backdoor. The box would have to connect to PSN, be issued with a challenge of some form, execute the challenge, report the result, proceed to be signed on. We're not talking about an open port here where any arbitrary passer by can run code.
So a *protected* backdoor is of course fine because sony's security on the PS3 is so top notch, as we've seen.
As opposed to Amazon, Microsoft, Google, Verizon, etc., telling you what you want.
He's referring to how Apple doesn't do market research for their products because they go on the assumption that the consumer doesn't know what he/she wants.
Darwin is part of OS X. As such OS X is partly open and partly closed.
What part of this don't you understand? OSX is *closed source*, though it contains open source components, the fact that you cannot download the entire OSX sourcecode makes it closed.
Its more obvious you never used Eyetoy or the more recent Eye.
Wrong.
The eye is just a camera to do 2-dimensional tracking or 3D point tracking with the move wand. The kinect has IR and RGB cams as well as a CMOS sensor so it can do 3D depth sensing and bone mapping. Anyone who has actually used both knows that these 2 devices are VERY different.
1) it was developed and researched outside microsoft - they bought the tech and payed to have it mass produced; the concepts involved are even older.
Most companies do that. It's the *product* that is innovative, pulling all the tech into one product for the consumer.
2) The motion capture craze was created by Nintendo years ago and before that they attempted the idea with the failed power glove because the tech wasn't good enough back then to pull it off. (Although I saw a university VR lab put that glove to use as a 6degree motion controller)
And the idea for tablet computers was around long before the ipad. But look at where they are, again it's the *product*, the execution that makes it a success, an innovative way to allow consumers to have those existing inventions.
3) Kinect is not that innovative, its an improvement to an existing idea of Nintendo's.
You obviously have no idea what kinect is if you think it's merely an improvement on Nintendo's idea. You might as well say the Prius is not innovative at all, it's just an improvement on the Model-T. And iphone isn't innovative, it's just an improvement over Nokia 3210, which was just an improvement on the Motorola DynaTAC.
They miss the concept of your natural inclination to move the controller about while STILL holding a controller and go 150% for capturing my body's motion. Its great for dance and stuff but its targeting an even SMALLER niche than nintendo's technically limited approach.
That is not a *natural* concept, if you're controlling a full-body motion avatar in a dance game, or fitness game or anything like kinect Adventures then the most natural inclination is to NOT use a controller. Unlike Nintendo they aren't marketing this as the be-all and end-all, it's just best for certain cases, just as the best controller for a racing game is a racing wheel.
If Nintendo did kinect, it would be done better because they are the true creative thinkers.
Probably not. The Wii is too gimicky and niche as it is and the power glove wasn't their invention.
What property is being seized? These are just bits on a server being set differently, just as downloading a movie without paying for it is sending bits down a wire. If one is "imaginary property" isn't the other? Or is there a double standard?
Ok well when i come over to your house and smash the place up it's ok because im just setting the particles differently.
So ripping off an 7 year old product but doing more to market it is the most innovative product of the year?
Yeah the iphone is just a ripoff of the nokia 3210. Seriously it's pretty obvious you've never actually used kinect if you think it's fundamentally the same as eyetoy.
Any PS3 games that will not play on the 360? Or maybe just quit consoles and try computer gaming again. Haven't touched a computer game since the 32-bit Amiga era.
There are quite a few PS3 exclusives, which i why i bought a PS3 in the first place, just to play the PS3 exclusives (everything else i get on xbox) but since the otheros removal it's been relegated to simply being a media center...and in fact since i got a TV with superior media center functionality built into it the PS3 isn't much more than a historic ornament in memory of a once great device.
I didn't think Sony would remove the Linux option, which was a feature from day 1. I was wrong.
I believed it when a spokesperson said they would not remove it from the original fat PS3.
Given all the marketing material for the PS3 about how it's 'not a gaming console, it's a computer', how it 'only does everything', etc... I don't see how they are going to be able to make the PS4 ever sound superior when they can't put that sort of stuff in there (or maybe they will in the hope that the masses will trust them not to remove those features again).
That's true - modded 360s get banned from XBL over somewhat similar mechanism.
Not a remote code execution backdoor, they don't do anything to your console, they just ban you from their network. Which i quite like, since it means i don't have to worry about script-kiddies running modded boxes to cheat in online games.
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Same reason iOS 3.2 wasn't iOS Tablet 1.0.
iOS works on tables AND phones... is Android inferior?
Tables? that's MS Surface.
As for iOS they have a tablet version on the ipad and a phone version on the iphone, just like Android will have.
What are they going to do if upper management doesn't provide one? Fire them? Lawl.
Abandon the company. Which is the likely scenario, Apple stock has skyrocketed, but since they don't pay dividends it's all about when to sell, and if Apple don't have a viable plan post-Jobs then now probably is a good time to sell.
Wrong. I can borrow against stock (and even buy a motor scooter or a computer).
I suppose, but the analogy to a motor scooter and computers still fails, you certainly don't buy stock for the same reason you buy those items since they depreciate, the idea is generally that stock you own will go up in value.
I can also buy more and more of the stock, so I eventually own 51% of the company. Then I can do a LOT of things. If the stock were selling for fractions of a penny, I most certainly would do that.
That depends on how much stock there is, and if the stock is that low the company is likely going under so what's the point of owning it, it is - obviously given the stock price - almost worthless.
If there is no law that requires a succession plan, then Apple should not be made to make a plan.
The company is owned by shareholders and they are the ones who want the succession plan.
Um... the point of owning the stock is that you can choose to sell the stock, hopefully for more money. My motorscooter, my computers, and my collection of erotic Hummel figurines don't pay dividends either, but I own them, which means I can sell them.
I know what you mean but that is an awful analogy. You can't do anything with stock but trade it, at least your motorscooter and computers have uses - which is most likely what you got them for anyway.
As I said it's hyperbole. If it's part of the PSN signon it's not a backdoor. The box would have to connect to PSN, be issued with a challenge of some form, execute the challenge, report the result, proceed to be signed on. We're not talking about an open port here where any arbitrary passer by can run code.
So a *protected* backdoor is of course fine because sony's security on the PS3 is so top notch, as we've seen.
Betamax, Betacam, Minidisc, CD, DVD, and Bluray are not standards. They are proprietary formats which Sony (and partners) get a cut from each sale.
You're confusing a 'standard' with an 'open standard'.
As opposed to Amazon, Microsoft, Google, Verizon, etc., telling you what you want.
He's referring to how Apple doesn't do market research for their products because they go on the assumption that the consumer doesn't know what he/she wants.
...they mean they pre-loaded Ubuntu UEC on them, wow!
Linux kernel in the Ubuntu is the operating system.
Linux is just the kernel, a kernel is not an operating system.
Darwin is part of OS X. As such OS X is partly open and partly closed.
What part of this don't you understand? OSX is *closed source*, though it contains open source components, the fact that you cannot download the entire OSX sourcecode makes it closed.
Its more obvious you never used Eyetoy or the more recent Eye.
Wrong.
The eye is just a camera to do 2-dimensional tracking or 3D point tracking with the move wand. The kinect has IR and RGB cams as well as a CMOS sensor so it can do 3D depth sensing and bone mapping. Anyone who has actually used both knows that these 2 devices are VERY different.
The fact that MS are suspected of patching games to add those checks?
So? A backdoor allowing remote code execution is a security issue.
That says nothing about the difficulty, just about the impact the device had.
You realize you can get Darwin for free right? OS X is Darwin +Aqua + Apple system libraries. Darwin is free and was last updated Jan 6 of this year.
Like I said, you can't download the OSX source and build it. OSX is *NOT* open, Darwin is open but Darwin is not OSX.
1) it was developed and researched outside microsoft - they bought the tech and payed to have it mass produced; the concepts involved are even older.
Most companies do that. It's the *product* that is innovative, pulling all the tech into one product for the consumer.
2) The motion capture craze was created by Nintendo years ago and before that they attempted the idea with the failed power glove because the tech wasn't good enough back then to pull it off. (Although I saw a university VR lab put that glove to use as a 6degree motion controller)
And the idea for tablet computers was around long before the ipad. But look at where they are, again it's the *product*, the execution that makes it a success, an innovative way to allow consumers to have those existing inventions.
3) Kinect is not that innovative, its an improvement to an existing idea of Nintendo's.
You obviously have no idea what kinect is if you think it's merely an improvement on Nintendo's idea. You might as well say the Prius is not innovative at all, it's just an improvement on the Model-T. And iphone isn't innovative, it's just an improvement over Nokia 3210, which was just an improvement on the Motorola DynaTAC.
They miss the concept of your natural inclination to move the controller about while STILL holding a controller and go 150% for capturing my body's motion. Its great for dance and stuff but its targeting an even SMALLER niche than nintendo's technically limited approach.
That is not a *natural* concept, if you're controlling a full-body motion avatar in a dance game, or fitness game or anything like kinect Adventures then the most natural inclination is to NOT use a controller. Unlike Nintendo they aren't marketing this as the be-all and end-all, it's just best for certain cases, just as the best controller for a racing game is a racing wheel.
If Nintendo did kinect, it would be done better because they are the true creative thinkers.
Probably not. The Wii is too gimicky and niche as it is and the power glove wasn't their invention.
What property is being seized? These are just bits on a server being set differently, just as downloading a movie without paying for it is sending bits down a wire. If one is "imaginary property" isn't the other? Or is there a double standard?
Ok well when i come over to your house and smash the place up it's ok because im just setting the particles differently.
So ripping off an 7 year old product but doing more to market it is the most innovative product of the year?
Yeah the iphone is just a ripoff of the nokia 3210. Seriously it's pretty obvious you've never actually used kinect if you think it's fundamentally the same as eyetoy.
Considering how difficult it has been to make Android "tablet-ready," I'd say you're underestimating it.
Android is a hell of a lot different to iOS. iOS was pretty much a tablet OS already.
What specific difficulties are you referencing that Android has had to overcome that iOS has already 'innovatively' overcome?
They basically played a bait and switch with people who wanted the openness offered by the x86 clone market.
Bait and switch? how so?
What is the most innovative product Microsoft has created since Gates left?
Surely kinect has to fit in there somewhere.
Any PS3 games that will not play on the 360? Or maybe just quit consoles and try computer gaming again. Haven't touched a computer game since the 32-bit Amiga era.
There are quite a few PS3 exclusives, which i why i bought a PS3 in the first place, just to play the PS3 exclusives (everything else i get on xbox) but since the otheros removal it's been relegated to simply being a media center...and in fact since i got a TV with superior media center functionality built into it the PS3 isn't much more than a historic ornament in memory of a once great device.
I didn't think Sony would remove the Linux option, which was a feature from day 1. I was wrong.
I believed it when a spokesperson said they would not remove it from the original fat PS3.
Given all the marketing material for the PS3 about how it's 'not a gaming console, it's a computer', how it 'only does everything', etc... I don't see how they are going to be able to make the PS4 ever sound superior when they can't put that sort of stuff in there (or maybe they will in the hope that the masses will trust them not to remove those features again).
That's true - modded 360s get banned from XBL over somewhat similar mechanism.
Not a remote code execution backdoor, they don't do anything to your console, they just ban you from their network. Which i quite like, since it means i don't have to worry about script-kiddies running modded boxes to cheat in online games.