*laugh* Depends on your perspective -- I view it about as innovative as eventually adding TCP/IP to Windows. It seems like it was more inevitable than revolutionary.:-P
I agree, but for some reason in the world we live in things such as 'making it a bit bigger' can be termed 'revolutionary' and 'magical'.
DirectX was made by M$ to kill SGI and OpenGL all together. Everything as been settle when Microsoft bought Bungie 2 week after showing an OpenGL version of Halo at the Mac World keynotes.
No it wasn't, DirectX and OpenGL aren't even comparable. DirectX was built as a way to directly interface with a range of hardware devices through windows as we did with DOS, but through a common interface. OpenGL does this for graphics hardware only, and at the time it wasn't very game-centric. It was certainly not an attempt to kill SGI, it was to create something that didn't already exist.
First off, calling iOS a "phone os" when its core is the same as that of Mac OS is showing that your not really thinking about the difference. The difference between the approaches has nothing to do with the core of the OS
IOW, if you designed a new engine and patented some aspect of that engine, you don't sue the designer of a competing engine that infringes patents, you sue the car companies that put that engine in their cars.
Why? By that logic a sound business strategy would be to develop a product based on patented technology and just sell it to people that include it in their products so they're the ones that get sued.
Apple pays $10 to get a music maker made in a factory
Dell pays $10 to get a music maker made in the same factory
every one else pays $10 to get a music maker made in the same factory
Except AT&T has no say whatsoever in the matter. They disallowed, until a while back, VOIP apps using the cell network, but Google Voice isn't VOIP.
They don't need to have a say in the matter, it provides a free alternative to their paid service. Obviously they aren't going to like that.
No, that is most definitely *not* why they removed it (more accurately, never approved it in the first place).
Well you tell me why then. And don't give me that 'degrading the user experience' bullshit, because installation and usage is optional.
Your if-then is not logically sound. Fart apps do not alter how you use the phone function of the iPhone (nor does it replace any other function of the iPhone).
Neither does google voice, you don't have to use it. Obviously if you don't like it or don't want it anymore you can uninstall it.
Yes, i actually wasn't saying it was all Nokia, just that it wasn't all Qualcomm. As for how much was contributed by each party involved i doubt there is a cost/time/complexity breakdown of the components.
That CDMA and W-CDMA are not the same thing. No-one's disputing Qualcomm's patents are necessary for 3G GSM, however that doesn't mean Qualcomm created 3G GSM.
This will work great... right up until apple releases a firmware upgrade that intentionally breaks it.
Of course, you can't interface with Apple's device unless Apple gets some money for it. Now that iphones are a dime a dozen and ipods and ipads are selling well ios will hopefully become the dominant mobile OS so we can have anti-trust suits that remove these ridiculous business practices from apple.
The biggest differentiator between an iPhone and an iPod Touch is the 3G radio. Guess who didn't develop GSM tech, but doesn't adhere to the licensing terms offered by the developer? I guess it's a case of [Apple] doing whatever the hell they please because they have no appreciation for the hard work of [Nokia].
If we're talking about 3G..... Nokia? WTF? Nokia?!?
It's Qualcomm, not Nokia. When it comes to 3G, know who to appreciate, dammit.:)
Well except for CPUs. Every desktop CPU is designed in the US (both AMD and Intel are there).
Their corporate headquarters are there, but if you've actually researched it a bit you'd see they have hardware engineers all over the world, not just in the US, particularly Intel has them in the UK, India and Israel among others.
Submitting patches to FOSS for the good of the community, without an ulterior motive, or at least with your vision of how it might be useful sharing a large subset with others, is another thing.
corporations who submit patches purely in their own interest are just as valuable to the OSS community as contributors who do it altruistically. look at the amount of contributions from corporations - to say linux - who do it purely because they need the improvements.
Umm, the reason that Unix does not suffer from DLL hell is because of the installation policy (which is what MS changed), not the underlying tech. If iOS apps are installing shared libs in a common location, you can and will have DLL hell.
No, it's library versioning - which of course means you can install shared libraries in a common location.
If apps can provide their own shared libraries and, you know, actually share them, then one app can overwrite a shared lib with one containing a trojan.
It's sharing in-memory loaded code, you're suggesting it is going to overwrite the loaded code from that library? Or are you suggesting it will overwrite the unloaded library on the filesystem? Dynamic linking doesn't give you the ability to just freely modify the code you're linking to.
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The iPad is not a computer, it's a device.
Sounds like bullshit to me. What do you believe are the definitions of those terms in this context? Because it sounds like you're making them up.
and when china workers stand up for rights then manufacturing will just move to next cheap place.
what rights?
You can even use Safari with uTorrent's web interface. Maybe it should be banned.
Oh, well there you go, it's duplicating functionality...apparently you can't do that either...some of the time...
*laugh* Depends on your perspective -- I view it about as innovative as eventually adding TCP/IP to Windows. It seems like it was more inevitable than revolutionary. :-P
I agree, but for some reason in the world we live in things such as 'making it a bit bigger' can be termed 'revolutionary' and 'magical'.
The XBox cost them loads of money until it became profitable.
That's how EVERY console is, it costs loads of money initially and makes a profit in the long term.
I assume Kinect is trying to build on what Nintendo built for the Wii? Again, not pioneering anything.
No, it's as close to the Wii as apple's iphone is to nokia's old 3210.
DirectX was made by M$ to kill SGI and OpenGL all together. Everything as been settle when Microsoft bought Bungie 2 week after showing an OpenGL version of Halo at the Mac World keynotes.
No it wasn't, DirectX and OpenGL aren't even comparable. DirectX was built as a way to directly interface with a range of hardware devices through windows as we did with DOS, but through a common interface. OpenGL does this for graphics hardware only, and at the time it wasn't very game-centric. It was certainly not an attempt to kill SGI, it was to create something that didn't already exist.
oh dear.
Still waiting on the mac version of directx
You mean OpenGL?
No, OpenGL would be feature-comparable to Direct3D, not DirectX.
First off, calling iOS a "phone os" when its core is the same as that of Mac OS is showing that your not really thinking about the difference. The difference between the approaches has nothing to do with the core of the OS
/contradiction
grammer doesn't matter as much as spelling
If you can't innovate, litigate.. right?
Nice try, i guess none of those companies do any innovation then.
Intel disagrees. Especially if the 'i' is dropped down below the other letters.
Numbers.
They're trolling.
What's your definition of 'trolling' in this context?
IOW, if you designed a new engine and patented some aspect of that engine, you don't sue the designer of a competing engine that infringes patents, you sue the car companies that put that engine in their cars.
Why? By that logic a sound business strategy would be to develop a product based on patented technology and just sell it to people that include it in their products so they're the ones that get sued.
Apple pays $10 to get a music maker made in a factory Dell pays $10 to get a music maker made in the same factory every one else pays $10 to get a music maker made in the same factory
Everyone pays the same do they? I doubt that.
Except AT&T has no say whatsoever in the matter. They disallowed, until a while back, VOIP apps using the cell network, but Google Voice isn't VOIP.
They don't need to have a say in the matter, it provides a free alternative to their paid service. Obviously they aren't going to like that.
No, that is most definitely *not* why they removed it (more accurately, never approved it in the first place).
Well you tell me why then. And don't give me that 'degrading the user experience' bullshit, because installation and usage is optional.
Your if-then is not logically sound. Fart apps do not alter how you use the phone function of the iPhone (nor does it replace any other function of the iPhone).
Neither does google voice, you don't have to use it. Obviously if you don't like it or don't want it anymore you can uninstall it.
Yes, i actually wasn't saying it was all Nokia, just that it wasn't all Qualcomm. As for how much was contributed by each party involved i doubt there is a cost/time/complexity breakdown of the components.
Did I miss anything?
That CDMA and W-CDMA are not the same thing. No-one's disputing Qualcomm's patents are necessary for 3G GSM, however that doesn't mean Qualcomm created 3G GSM.
This will work great... right up until apple releases a firmware upgrade that intentionally breaks it.
Of course, you can't interface with Apple's device unless Apple gets some money for it. Now that iphones are a dime a dozen and ipods and ipads are selling well ios will hopefully become the dominant mobile OS so we can have anti-trust suits that remove these ridiculous business practices from apple.
The biggest differentiator between an iPhone and an iPod Touch is the 3G radio. Guess who didn't develop GSM tech, but doesn't adhere to the licensing terms offered by the developer? I guess it's a case of [Apple] doing whatever the hell they please because they have no appreciation for the hard work of [Nokia].
If we're talking about 3G..... Nokia? WTF? Nokia?!?
It's Qualcomm, not Nokia. When it comes to 3G, know who to appreciate, dammit. :)
Maybe you need a history lesson.
Well except for CPUs. Every desktop CPU is designed in the US (both AMD and Intel are there).
Their corporate headquarters are there, but if you've actually researched it a bit you'd see they have hardware engineers all over the world, not just in the US, particularly Intel has them in the UK, India and Israel among others.
Right, because the one thing keeping Intel moving is AMD.
The specter of competition from AMD probably provides some motivation to Intel, but it doesn't seem to be a particularly primary source.
I'd say they're being pushed harder by anyone doing an ARM chip than by AMD at the moment.
Submitting patches to FOSS for the good of the community, without an ulterior motive, or at least with your vision of how it might be useful sharing a large subset with others, is another thing.
corporations who submit patches purely in their own interest are just as valuable to the OSS community as contributors who do it altruistically. look at the amount of contributions from corporations - to say linux - who do it purely because they need the improvements.
Umm, the reason that Unix does not suffer from DLL hell is because of the installation policy (which is what MS changed), not the underlying tech. If iOS apps are installing shared libs in a common location, you can and will have DLL hell.
No, it's library versioning - which of course means you can install shared libraries in a common location.
If apps can provide their own shared libraries and, you know, actually share them, then one app can overwrite a shared lib with one containing a trojan.
It's sharing in-memory loaded code, you're suggesting it is going to overwrite the loaded code from that library? Or are you suggesting it will overwrite the unloaded library on the filesystem? Dynamic linking doesn't give you the ability to just freely modify the code you're linking to.