Where is the source for windows? Where can I download it?
The comment you were replying to is obviously complete rubbish but why is it that whenever someone bashes the Mac for something you end up with people that will quickly compare it to Windows?
Maybe he meant what you said, but the comment didn't say "identical hardware" it said "identical specs".
Well yeah that's true it's not going to be 'identical hardware', but rather hardware with identical specs, in which case there still shouldn't be a significant performance difference.
As mainstream computing stands today, the operating system is almost completely irrelevant. Gaming continues to migrate to two different venues: the browser and the console.
Just because 'games' as a genre are available on different platforms doesn't make the OS irrelevant. The same games aren't available across all platforms because the OS is relevant. Sure some steam games are available on OSX as well as windows, but none on linux. And of the myriad of iDevice games there are very few that are available on other devices like android and maemo.
Productivity software is either cross-platform (Open/LibreOffice) or browser-based (Google Docs.)
Rubbish, look at MS Office, iLife, Inventor, MAX, Revit, Aperture, Logic Pro, Adobe Creative Suite, etc...
Typical users are spending more and more time in the browser as Web-based applications fulfill their needs.
Ahh but there are people who play for profit and not for fun. There are leagues and there are competitions. Lots of this is based on online scores
They have their own league and competition ladders, otherwise what is the point of having these leagues and competitions if you base them on online scores.
How about: *Proposal* in UK To Track All Browsing, Email, and Phone Calls?
Just like a little while ago 'Australia to ban pedestrians from using ipods', which was in actuality an organisation - which comprised of a single person - that voiced an extremist opinion.
I think his point is that the idea somehow the mac label makes a system perform better than 'identical hardware' that isn't a mac is obviously flawed. Wouldn't you agree?
Getting 70% is a developer fantasy. By the time you find a publisher, and they sell to a distributor, who then sells it to a retail store... a developer is lucky to get 15% to 20%.
Your comparing the app store (digital distribution) to traditional physical methods. So sure, in that comparison it looks pretty cost effective, but this isn't the invention of digital distribution.
It gets rid of a lot of developer headaches, including finding a place with high bandwidth mirrors for consumers to download and fetch updates.
Yes, Apple gets a 30% chunk, but IMHO, it is a good thing to have long term.
So how many people will just take that 30% cut in stride and how many will tack it on to the price of their products? What I mean is I see this as being viable for small utilities but not for large commercial applications.
Really? You have the 360 over the PS3 in this regard? PS3 works with standard media servers, has a great freeware media server that transcodes on the fly, doesn't double dip your wallet for netflix like the 360 does, and has a much smoother multimedia interface
I have to agree...for gaming it's my 360 all the way - except for PS3 exclusives of course - but for streaming stuff from my server or PC I use the PS3.
Operating systems are pretty much irrelevent anyway, browser or no.
I think you're confusing technological possibility with reality. With all the cross-platform tools and frameworks the OS itself could be irrelevant from the user's perspective, but the reality is there is still a myriad of everyday software that is platform-specific.
To be honest, I don't know how it all works at the business level, all I know is that I'm ordering my next laptop without windows and I'm going to spend up to 12 hours on the phone to get the discount for it.
My point is that Apple considers the iPad to not be a computer.
And my point is that doesn't make it true.
Device - a thing made for a particular purpose; an invention or contrivance, esp. a mechanical or electrical one.
Appliance - an instrument, apparatus, or device for a particular purpose or use.
The iPad is designed for a specific purpose (to consume media and use apps per Apple's desire)
But it's not designed for a 'specific purpose' at all, it's an 'appliance simulator' - in that it can become an appliance based on the program it is running - the same as a computer, not an appliance itself. To 'do whatever apple wants', is not a 'specific purpose' - unless of course the meaning of the word 'specific' escapes you - any more than a computer has the 'specific purpose' of 'doing whatever the user wants'.
They may not provide a 'boot camp' but i don't see a reason they would do anything to stop alternative OSes, they'll still get a hardware sale - and potential software sales - to those who would otherwise go elsewhere, exactly the same as with Windows on the Mac.
The fact that apple doesn't say it is a computer doesn't mean it is not a computer.
Maybe you should have some evidence before you label something bullshit?
No, you need evidence to support your assertion, I don't need any to question it.
Perhaps a quote from Steve Jobs referring to the iPad as a computer?
Lack of evidence doesn't support your assertion.
Your whole post avoids the question i asked you. You've used terms you don't appear to understand because you've failed to define them, so try again. Read the question, make sure you understand it, then post:
What do you believe are the definitions of those terms in this context?
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www.emule-project.com - open source, so it can't be shut down.
The fact that it's open source has nothing to do with it.
People do not give a shit about how open their cell phone is.
Of course not, but they care about the user experience and the open Android OS seems to be doing quite well.
mention "iphone 4 antennagate" and you'll quickly see who is drinking the kool-aid and who is not.
What does that even mean?
Where is the source for windows? Where can I download it?
The comment you were replying to is obviously complete rubbish but why is it that whenever someone bashes the Mac for something you end up with people that will quickly compare it to Windows?
And you missed the part where you have to rewrite all your UI code to go from Maemo (GTK+Hildon) to Meego (Qt)?
Why? Maemo support Qt fine.
If it hurts society, why aren't we erecting laws against this practice?
Because those laws would be made and enforced by lawyers.
Maybe he meant what you said, but the comment didn't say "identical hardware" it said "identical specs".
Well yeah that's true it's not going to be 'identical hardware', but rather hardware with identical specs, in which case there still shouldn't be a significant performance difference.
3. ?
Can't you just skip this step?
As mainstream computing stands today, the operating system is almost completely irrelevant. Gaming continues to migrate to two different venues: the browser and the console.
Just because 'games' as a genre are available on different platforms doesn't make the OS irrelevant. The same games aren't available across all platforms because the OS is relevant. Sure some steam games are available on OSX as well as windows, but none on linux. And of the myriad of iDevice games there are very few that are available on other devices like android and maemo.
Productivity software is either cross-platform (Open/LibreOffice) or browser-based (Google Docs.)
Rubbish, look at MS Office, iLife, Inventor, MAX, Revit, Aperture, Logic Pro, Adobe Creative Suite, etc...
Typical users are spending more and more time in the browser as Web-based applications fulfill their needs.
Really? That sounds purely anecdotal.
Ahh but there are people who play for profit and not for fun. There are leagues and there are competitions. Lots of this is based on online scores
They have their own league and competition ladders, otherwise what is the point of having these leagues and competitions if you base them on online scores.
How about: *Proposal* in UK To Track All Browsing, Email, and Phone Calls?
Just like a little while ago 'Australia to ban pedestrians from using ipods', which was in actuality an organisation - which comprised of a single person - that voiced an extremist opinion.
I wouldn't.
Where i used to work we had a bunch of iMacs and Mac Pros, everyone used either Windows or Fedora.
It must be propaganda...because you said so?
I think his point is that the idea somehow the mac label makes a system perform better than 'identical hardware' that isn't a mac is obviously flawed. Wouldn't you agree?
Getting 70% is a developer fantasy. By the time you find a publisher, and they sell to a distributor, who then sells it to a retail store ... a developer is lucky to get 15% to 20%.
Your comparing the app store (digital distribution) to traditional physical methods. So sure, in that comparison it looks pretty cost effective, but this isn't the invention of digital distribution.
It gets rid of a lot of developer headaches, including finding a place with high bandwidth mirrors for consumers to download and fetch updates.
Yes, Apple gets a 30% chunk, but IMHO, it is a good thing to have long term.
So how many people will just take that 30% cut in stride and how many will tack it on to the price of their products? What I mean is I see this as being viable for small utilities but not for large commercial applications.
Google is open? Where can I download the source for big table?
Google != Android, you would think that would be obvious but I guess some people just aren't capable of understanding that.
However, my main point still stands that iOS outsells Android, both within the US and worldwide.
You've consistently said that but have you got something to back that up?
http://www.amazon.com/s/ref=nb_sb_noss?url=search-alias%3Dwireless-phones&field-keywords=android&x=0&y=0
A bunch of phones are on that list and under $50.
They only seem to go at that price with a service plan, and the iphone4 is free on service plans here in australia.
it's more like iPhone 4 vs Crappy $50 Android Phone.
Out of interest what $50 android phones are there?
Really? You have the 360 over the PS3 in this regard? PS3 works with standard media servers, has a great freeware media server that transcodes on the fly, doesn't double dip your wallet for netflix like the 360 does, and has a much smoother multimedia interface
I have to agree...for gaming it's my 360 all the way - except for PS3 exclusives of course - but for streaming stuff from my server or PC I use the PS3.
Operating systems are pretty much irrelevent anyway, browser or no.
I think you're confusing technological possibility with reality. With all the cross-platform tools and frameworks the OS itself could be irrelevant from the user's perspective, but the reality is there is still a myriad of everyday software that is platform-specific.
To be honest, I don't know how it all works at the business level, all I know is that I'm ordering my next laptop without windows and I'm going to spend up to 12 hours on the phone to get the discount for it.
Wow...your time is really that low value?
My point is that Apple considers the iPad to not be a computer.
And my point is that doesn't make it true.
Device - a thing made for a particular purpose; an invention or contrivance, esp. a mechanical or electrical one. Appliance - an instrument, apparatus, or device for a particular purpose or use.
The iPad is designed for a specific purpose (to consume media and use apps per Apple's desire)
But it's not designed for a 'specific purpose' at all, it's an 'appliance simulator' - in that it can become an appliance based on the program it is running - the same as a computer, not an appliance itself. To 'do whatever apple wants', is not a 'specific purpose' - unless of course the meaning of the word 'specific' escapes you - any more than a computer has the 'specific purpose' of 'doing whatever the user wants'.
They may not provide a 'boot camp' but i don't see a reason they would do anything to stop alternative OSes, they'll still get a hardware sale - and potential software sales - to those who would otherwise go elsewhere, exactly the same as with Windows on the Mac.
Apple does not consider the iPad a computer.
Don't take my word for it, take Apple's:
The fact that apple doesn't say it is a computer doesn't mean it is not a computer.
Maybe you should have some evidence before you label something bullshit?
No, you need evidence to support your assertion, I don't need any to question it.
Perhaps a quote from Steve Jobs referring to the iPad as a computer?
Lack of evidence doesn't support your assertion.
Your whole post avoids the question i asked you. You've used terms you don't appear to understand because you've failed to define them, so try again. Read the question, make sure you understand it, then post:
What do you believe are the definitions of those terms in this context?
but they haven't done anything about people jail breaking those devices so that they can use other services and other software
Of course they have, every software update breaks the previous jailbreak.