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Visual Depiction of Who Is Suing Who in Mobile
Although the graphic itself won't win an award for design,
Norman submitted a story about who's suing who in the mobile universe. From Apple to Qualcomm and pretty much everyone in between, it's a pretty impressive mess.
Pigs at the trough.
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A graph of "Who is fucking over who" has Customers as a leaf node.
... represent baby.. yeah!
You should see the homes of some of these guys...
Take that! That'll teach you to compete with me.
It would be far more informative if the "balloon" for each company was sized based on gross sales, or some-such. That would at least differentiate between a large company with serveral lawsuits, and a tiny company with an inordinate number.
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its been a few years, and we are at this point. compare the rate and think what a bigger mess it will be in 5-10 years.
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All this money and time wasted in the courts could be used to make better products and improve innovation. How are patents are suppose to promote the progress of useful arts again? We should just change the text to "to promote the progress of lawyers".
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It would be interesting to correlate this to how successful companies have been in recent years. Just looking at the diagram, it appears that businesses that are floundering tend to sue, or even moreso the opposite, businesses that are successful are getting more heat.
Look at the chart - Toshiba, Hitachi, HTC, Sharp, Samsung, Sony-Ericsson, LG - they're all being sued, but none of them are suing. The Europeans and Americans, though, ...
How is it that nobody is suing Microsoft? I mean...its Microsoft: Digital Evil since 1985. They've constantly been in one form of litigation or another for decades.
Common Sense isn't as Common as people think...
Another thing to consider is who's charging exorbitant licensing fees from whom. Example: RIM is charging Microsoft a per-seat licensing fee for any Blackberry user whose account resides on a Microsoft-hosted email solution. I'm sure there are other examples, but my google-fu is weak.
If you can't innovate, litigate.. right?
have they fallen so far they aren't worth or can't afford lawyers?
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Whatever happened to punching someone in the face and just saying 'no, you can't do that to me'. Oh well, insanity ensues.
And then you have NTP who is suing everybody.
Can you imagine if what is going on now in the mobile space had been happening as personal computing took off during the 80s? We'd have gotten just short of nowhere, what with all the patent suits crippling things and walled garden lock down forcing people to find exploits so they can regain basic levels of control.
I can't help that this piss poor, anti-user behavior in the mobile market is going to ripple up into the general computing space in the next few years and generally make life hell for anyone who shows an interest in computers beyond Facebook, e-mail and the latest console game.
If you stare at that diagram long enough, you can see a whole bunch of lawyers swimming in piles of cash ala Scrooge McDuck. (If you're having trouble, it helps if you cross your eyes a little bit and back away slowly.)
It appears the US has lost it's edge even in the number of people to sue.
Its a bit like the wild west when gold prospectors shot it out to decide who got dibs on what plot of land. Except in this case bullets are words and property is intellectual. I vote for a return to the good old days.
A short study of the diagram shows the diagram could be much easier to read. Many, if not all, of the line crossings could be eliminated by rearranging the companies.
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If someone says he and his monkey have nothing to hide, they almost certainly do.
Nokia is suing 5 companies and is being sued by 2.
Kodak is suing 5 companies and is being sued by none.
Microsoft is suing 2 companies and is being sued by none.
Apple is suing 2 companies and is being sued by 3.
Motorola is suing nobody and is being sued by three companies.
Sharp is suing nobody and is being sued by 3 companies.
LG and HTC are being sued 2 times apiece.
So, is Nokia the worst offender as it watches its profits tank in response to fierce competition?
Is Kodak, the king of failed business models overtaken my new technology, the next worst offender?
When companies start suing, it seems to be because they have stopped competing.
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Basically, whenever you get successful, someone is going to sue you for something. Litigation, in the USA anyway, has turned into a business strategy. It's a pretty extravagant burden on taxpayers these days since the economy is already screwed. Look how long the SCO debacle has dragged on: Mar, 6th 2003. I Wonder how much just that one case has cost taxpayers. And no, I don't think SCO will not pay those costs if they file (have filed?) for bankruptcy. These stupid lawsuits gotta stop.
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Nokia and Kodak(?!?!) are basically suing everybody while Motorola and Sharp(?!?! again) are taking it in all holes.
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WHOM.
Looks like patents aren't as useful a tool for innovation as they are lauded to be.
Love the "you spelled this wrong" underline under Qualcomm.
I remember, in a past discussion, someone described the patent situation similar to the cold war but noted that it's likely ending in an explosive way. Previously, companies held patent portfolios to hold other companies at bay in a defensive stance similar to the stockpiles of missiles. Now, however, the portfolios are being used offensively - the missiles are starting to fly. As more and more start to get unleashed, this is only going to get uglier, in my opinion. While I may not like seeing my favourite companies targeted by lawsuits, I'm ok with the cold war ending because, maybe, just maybe, these companies will get fed up with the hundreds of millions that will start flying about as well and start to lobby for patent laws that make more sense because, gawd knows, the current ones are pretty messed up...
Well, one can hope, at least...
Here's an alternate view of the same content generated with Graphviz, which shows the suers and the sueees better :)
http://imagebin.ca/img/dv52EX.png
http://simplepenart.com/misc/whos%20suing%20who.ods
The pepper spray.
Convince the Judge that the Android platform is a Computer platform that happens to support a Cellular modem and get the court to ignore all patents that describe a cellular phone. My understanding is that there are Android tablets out there that don't have the Cell part, and netbooks as well so it shouldn't be too hard of sell (although Judges are usually slow on that type of thing)
I just got an HTC Incredible last weekend, and it has more in common with my PC than it does my Dad's corded touchtone phone.
i do not think that image is correct. nokia settled with qualcomm long ago.
Whenever a new technology or standard is proposed, there will inevitably always be overlapping patents that someone else owns. This is why big companies like to hold patents like poker cards. Nobody knows exactly what/how many/how effective the cards the other players hold, which is why most of the time nobody plays the litigation game. It's like saying "I'll hold on to my King because I'm afraid that guy has an Ace" unless that other guy already played a Queen against you in another game and then... well it's revenge time!
It's kind of like the mutually assured destruction of the litigation world.
I saw that comment in TFA and thought, 'how great that is for Microsoft'.
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That graphic is deliberately fucked up, with edges crossing where there's no need for them to do so.
What it shows when you decode it is that Nokia and Kodak are the most litigious, while the most frequent targets are Apple (no surpised), Sharp and Motorola.
9 of the bubbles are suing nobody, 5 are not being sued, and 3 are suing and being sued.
Nokia is involved in 10 cases, suing 8 companies and being countersued by 2 of them. I guess that's what you get for being a longtime pioneer and suddenly having your industry jumped by a bunch of linux-based hacks and an iPod with a phone chip in it.
I would've thought that in Mobile, and all the other Gulf coast cities, everybody would be suing BP
I wonder if there's a relationship between a company's stock price and the number of lawsuits it files. Nokia's stock has dropped about 30% since April.
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Objective case: WHOM
By indemnifying WP7 manufacturers against patent infringement suits, MS is basically assuming any legal threats itself - on behalf of its manufacturers.
wait, aren't Nokia, LG and Samsung all on the Symbian board? Why the hell are they suing each other?
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All the whining about Apple being sue happy when they are only countersuing Nokia and suing HTC. Meanwhile, Nokia is suing Qualcomm, LG-Group, Motorola, Apple, Sharp, Hitachi and Samsung. What a joke. Don't let the FOSS world find out. They just can't stomach Apple and won't shut up about Android. Since Google makes zip in hardware it makes sense that their hardware partners won't sue them.
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I assume the name "Qualcomm" in the diagram has a dotted red underline because MS PowerPoint thinks it's mis-spelt?
Ah, this is the Grauniad we're talking about. Ignore me.
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I find it very telling how while Microsoft is only involved in 2 lawsuits, yet they are the entire focus of the article. And in an story supposedly about who is suing who, Nokia (clearly the biggest troll) isn't even mentioned. I have aggregated the data below.
Company Total Plaintiff Defendant
Apple 5 2 3
ELAN 1 1 0
Google 1 0 1
Hitachi 1 0 1
HTC 2 0 2
Kodak 5 5 0
LG-Group 2 0 2
Microsoft 2 2 0
Motorola 3 0 3
Nokia 10 8 2
Oracle 1 1 0
Qualcomm 2 1 1
RIM 2 2 0
Samsung 2 0 2
Sharp 3 0 3
Sony-Ericsson 1 0 1
Toshiba 1 0 1
Mean 2.59
Median 2
Mode 1
StDev 2.29
Outliers 7.17+
Software patents are bad..... unless you are a lawyer, in which case, software patents are a super-sized house with paid off mortgage, a second house in the Catskills, retirement at 55 (or 50 if you want, even if you pay heavily in out-of-pocket medical bills and live for 50 more years, you will never burn through all that cash), and also out-of-country sand-n-surf holidays every year, new expensive luxury cars every year, the yacht, maid, butler, dozen kids all with the trust fund and all expenses paid-in-advance college fund (in the good schools). For software developers, companies, and the general population, and for the basic good of all mankind, software patents are bad (and should never have been allowed). For lawyers, they are a gold mine, just waiting to bend over and be tapped.
The business of government wins. Billions of dollars each year are being raked through the business of government merely for the administration of the IP racket. After all, who do you think designed and implemented the process? It sure wasn't the players -- it was the founders and owners of the game.
Don't for a second think that government doesn't benefit from all this.
Probably because we've seen something similar to it before. http://bits.blogs.nytimes.com/2010/03/04/an-explosion-of-mobile-patent-lawsuits/
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I think they purposefully made more lines criss-cross than necessary, just to make it look more complicated. For example, if you move Oracle down to where Toshiba is, then move Toshiba to above Google, that bottom-left corner would be pretty simple.
for me was to see who was NOT suing anyone.
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There are, at a glance, at least four places where arrows cross, but shouldn't have to if the circles were moved. The worst case is the Oracle-to-Google arrow that has no reason to cross Nokia-to-Toshiba.
Move HTC above ELAN and Microsoft to the upper left corner.
Swap Sharp and Samsung.
Hell, just put the thing through dotty and nothing really has to cross.
I admit its is a legal pile-o-crap, but the dishonest way the graphical designer "tangled" it is either willful inflationary manipulation of opinion, or its just plain incompetence.
Who made this graph? Fox News?
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One thing is clear (looking at the microsoft circle): If nobody is suing you, you are not a significant player in the said market.
According to the diagram Microsoft is suing HTC, but I haven't heard of such a thing. Instead they have a patent pact and HTC is paying Microsoft. Perhaps it could be said that if HTC wasn't paying Microsoft then there would be a lawsuit.
Someone has reworked the diagram to give a clearer picture of what's going on
http://news.designlanguage.com/post/1252039209
I'm not surprised that Nokia is number one, but I never would have figured Kodak for number two. I never would have considered Kodak in this space at all.
Motorola is now suing Apple.
Though I haven't yet read the patent, it sounds like precisely the kind of "business method" patent that the Bilski patent litigation case was supposed to eliminate. "Abstract ideas" and "methods of organizing human behavior" are not supposed to be eligible for patent protection. This product sounds to me like an idea, not an invention. Though, of course, clever patent claim drafting can blur this distinction enough to let some bad patents through the system.