Well if you want me to use information that's available (I hardly think that's in the spirit od/.), I would use R&D total numbers to determine the amount spent on R&D, and not limit myself to computing (after all not all research is super computing).
If I do such, a quick googling finds the UK is 4th worldwide (http://www.aaas.org/spp/rd/guiintl.htm). here (this is a google cache link, to view a PDF as HTML) is a table showing it just above China as a percentage, but about 3/4 of the highest percentage (korea) and a little less behind France, Germany,US and the Japan. And if the 2 sites are using similar methods we see the UK just above the EU-27 as a whole.
The UK is certainly not the top that one may hope, but it does appear to be above average (4th place in raw number).
Wouldn't it make sense to compare total computing power to GDP, or at the least total scientific computing power?
I would doubt for example you would have the same complaint if the UK had the 17-100 spots on the list.
It could very well be that the UK is spending a lot more on research, but does not like to spend it on large super computersm or even spends it partnering with facilities in other countries.
Please read before posting. You sound as stupid as I do most of the time (see my post history).
Your post is completely in a agreement with the post you are rebutting.
I would go as far as saying most closed source software I have come across works fairly well on multile distros, though it is generally fairly trivial things.
I use the spreadsheet for a lot, but I am using it as a more open (in a sense) version of a simple PIM.
For my wedding guest list I had all the addresses typed into a google spreadsheet that could flow into a word doc.
I addressed the envelopes out of that file, and then when my father/mother inlaw to be received RSVPs they could mark in regrets/attending names and numbers and meals on the same spreadsheet.
My wife to be and I could get an idea of qho was coming and who wasn't. When it was done I was able to print table cards off of the added guest names and all the food info was in one place not lost.
Ping ponging a.xls file would have been a lot more difficult.
I only use the word and power point substitutions to quickly preview email attachments, but the spreadsheet is for me a killer app.
Where I work we use the email too, it had a little bit of a rocky start (shakey POP access), but it saved us a lot of money, and the space is great.
The thing is Tesla was clearly willing to work anyway. He ripped up his contract entirley. Why did he not just drop it to $.05/HP for example?
The patent system was not meant to protect those with a strong drive to create, it was to protect those willing to create driven by there desire for money. The theory is more people are motivated by money.
The proper place for Tesla in a functioning system would be as a professor, where he could do and share his research and allow others to do with it as they pleased (as he did when ripping up his contract).
Imagine one of these things hooked up to a hydro dam like the one he built in Niagra Falls, supplying power without the need to run cable.
I can imagine it, and would be shocked if it was as efficient (even with the saved up front) as running down a wire, but I do think genius is capable of soving things that would not be solved for a century and a half later. The thing is that it is easier to protect genius with tenure (in academics)/patronage by big companies (even non-genius works this way in OSS). The patent system is supposed to spur the greedy to invent.
And I think we can both agree that the patent system can't be blamed for Tesla getting screwed by Edison.
What good did all of those people with the same idea do us?
It took one person investing a lot of resources into it to find the working solution. The geniuses will continue to do their research, but the unglamorous part needs to be profitable or no one will want to do it.
In what way did Eddison's patents hold back Tesla? (this is a real question, I thought Tesla was very theroretical, and didn't realize that he was hampered by patents at all).
Eddison took the theroretical and made it something I could buy, and it was an expensive thing to do. He could do it quicker than anyone else, because he was willing to sink the resources into it. In 15 years we all win from his brute force effort (and if the monopoly is not abused too much we could all win instantly).
I (as you) believe that people like Eddison typify what the patent system was supposed to do, we just look at them differently. The extreme case of this brute forcing an invention is in the medical industry. Do you really think we would have drugs developed without patent protections?
I am willing to bet that Eddison himself knew this.
The fact that he claimed invention was 1% inspiration and 99% perspiration would imply to me that all you need to do is brute force it.
Of course, an argument could still be made that the patent system encourages brute forcing out the correct thing. My friend worked for the material sciences (or some such) lab at the university. He pulled stuff apart all day. There was an off chance that something wouldn't actually pull apart, and then the real fun begins. The amount of people that are making substances to pull apart is probably quite huge (relative to the one person whom would be credited with inventing the awesome new composite), but in a non-academic situation (and are even school labs purely academic?) the fact that you will get years to make money on it is encouragement to pay people to try and pull it apart on the off chance it is you that succeeds.
As far as finding new uses for the new awesome material the patent system probably helps a whole lot less.
That is why I personally think our system is broken. It should be designed around encouraging the raw R&D (create new material, like Goretex) not the marketing of it (jacket that breathes while being waterproof), which is surely the way things are going now.
I bet that MS is strongly trying to make sure Android succeeds. They have a lot to gain if it does.
More seriously I would bet they work on it, but keep it under wraps unless the platform takes off. That way if it does take off they are there with good integration, but if lack of this must have sinks the android MS has more potential in the mobile market.
1)Come up with the terms of your non-conforming (to the GPL) distribution of product. 2)name your license (I shall choose "QHNDASPL") 3)QHNDASPL states "you may use either GPL, terms from 1, or QHNDASPL to redistribute" 4)Only accept submissions with the QHNDASPL license
This will leverage the many eyes, theoretically, and allow you to use any patches submitted.
You would not be able to use pure GPL code and leverage what already exists (as GPL), but you could use BSD code and accept patches (if that is what you meant by leverage).
This is similar to a lot of dual licenses that already exist, except many projects want you to assign ownership to submit. This is to make future license changes easier (see the difficulty getting Mozilla to GPL, or if it was wanted to ever get Linux to the standard GPL (not the GPL2 only it currently is).
Well this is the case where a judge ruled that information in RAM was a pertinant and they needed to keep a constant RAM dump to continue operating in the US (or a log of all US IPs).
Perhaps dropping info out of RAM is the destruction.
I purchased a Sansung ML-2251N A few years ago. It is black and white only, but it printed over 5000 pages before I needed to buy more toner. And probably jammed about 4 times in the same span of time.
Well I guess it's their job to mirror the Open Office website then.
It really is kind of lame of them, but it is perfectly understandable, and if there is a huge problem someone should open up a mirror in Australia, and put some adds up.
I specifically mentioned that the reason I like open source is I can just recompile, or more likely someone else has done it.
I find proprietary software incredibly frustrating, but I like games, and there arn't too many good single player OSS ones. Enemy Territory is not too old of a game, and even that runs into issues on Linux now.
I annoyance of getting a functional Windows or MAC desktop vs Linux is extreme. Though arguably in the end the Widows and MAC are more functional (CS3 for example).
The vast majority are still sold directly to consumers at the retail price.
The other 20% go to people who really want them. In the end you still would still have a similar number of people not getting Wiis or tickets that wanted them. It's just that you allowed some people (60% we'll say) to get them through dedication (always checking store, waiting in line at 3am), 20% with dumb luck, and 20% paying other people to be dedicated.
The only way it becomes a real problem is if that 20% took demand from satiated to over supply, but I doubt that is the case for the Wii, they have been sold out for a long time, and I really doubt the resellers are sitting on 20% of the summers stock, I would suspect it is more likely 5% of Octobers, 10% of Novembers, and 15% of Decembers. Unless large numbers go un-resold it all evens out in the end. Unless you are bitter against people with a few hundred extra dollors (I am not, only when it comes to vacation kind of money do I get bitter).
And really, as hard as they were to get all summer, $150.00 markup is not too bad if you really want one. (499 for Wii+Wii Play+extra nunchuck+Alien Syndrome).
Do you really think a significant part of the 1,000,000 units/month (30,000/day) are being resold through the secondary market?
A quick glance has 90,000 on ebay in the last 3 weeks (we'll call it 125,000/month) 900 are listed on amazon, and I don't know where else to check.
These 20% or so that are in the reseller market are getting placed, just later than if they were sold in stores, so shouldn't be keeping supply so much more constricted than naturally.
There is a chance that people are sitting on thousands of Wii, but I somehow doubt it. The scalpers have it easy because they can.
1) buy up the good seats, there are not that many 2) buy a small percentage and let other people buy up the bulk at retail.
The second is what lets the Wii resellers succeed, they are not creating the demand, they are riding that wave.
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Well if you want me to use information that's available (I hardly think that's in the spirit od /.), I would use R&D total numbers to determine the amount spent on R&D, and not limit myself to computing (after all not all research is super computing).
If I do such, a quick googling finds the UK is 4th worldwide (http://www.aaas.org/spp/rd/guiintl.htm). here (this is a google cache link, to view a PDF as HTML) is a table showing it just above China as a percentage, but about 3/4 of the highest percentage (korea) and a little less behind France, Germany,US and the Japan. And if the 2 sites are using similar methods we see the UK just above the EU-27 as a whole.
The UK is certainly not the top that one may hope, but it does appear to be above average (4th place in raw number).
Wouldn't it make sense to compare total computing power to GDP, or at the least total scientific computing power?
I would doubt for example you would have the same complaint if the UK had the 17-100 spots on the list.
It could very well be that the UK is spending a lot more on research, but does not like to spend it on large super computersm or even spends it partnering with facilities in other countries.
I'm and American (US) and that's the only way I've heard it too.
sodda I have only heard to refer to the stuff you drink.
Since the mods started smoking crack.
I really like the shift switcher with the mouse wheel to flip though windows.
Also, when letting something run in the background I like ALT-MW transperency adjusting to look at it.
Nothing earth shattering, but I like to use it vs not.
No ugly window redraw when dragging across flash applets is nice too, but you may have more CPU than me, so it may not matter.
Please read before posting. You sound as stupid as I do most of the time (see my post history).
Your post is completely in a agreement with the post you are rebutting.
I would go as far as saying most closed source software I have come across works fairly well on multile distros, though it is generally fairly trivial things.
Really?
I would think they could save a lot using Chinese distributors and not he studios to get their files.
However, I doubt Wal-Mart spends a lot of time worrying about how to make their stores less crowded for my benefit.
They have been fighting to open another store in your area for a while.
I use the spreadsheet for a lot, but I am using it as a more open (in a sense) version of a simple PIM.
.xls file would have been a lot more difficult.
For my wedding guest list I had all the addresses typed into a google spreadsheet that could flow into a word doc.
I addressed the envelopes out of that file, and then when my father/mother inlaw to be received RSVPs they could mark in regrets/attending names and numbers and meals on the same spreadsheet.
My wife to be and I could get an idea of qho was coming and who wasn't. When it was done I was able to print table cards off of the added guest names and all the food info was in one place not lost.
Ping ponging a
I only use the word and power point substitutions to quickly preview email attachments, but the spreadsheet is for me a killer app.
Where I work we use the email too, it had a little bit of a rocky start (shakey POP access), but it saved us a lot of money, and the space is great.
The thing is Tesla was clearly willing to work anyway. He ripped up his contract entirley. Why did he not just drop it to $.05/HP for example?
The patent system was not meant to protect those with a strong drive to create, it was to protect those willing to create driven by there desire for money. The theory is more people are motivated by money.
The proper place for Tesla in a functioning system would be as a professor, where he could do and share his research and allow others to do with it as they pleased (as he did when ripping up his contract).
Imagine one of these things hooked up to a hydro dam like the one he built in Niagra Falls, supplying power without the need to run cable.
I can imagine it, and would be shocked if it was as efficient (even with the saved up front) as running down a wire, but I do think genius is capable of soving things that would not be solved for a century and a half later. The thing is that it is easier to protect genius with tenure (in academics)/patronage by big companies (even non-genius works this way in OSS). The patent system is supposed to spur the greedy to invent.
And I think we can both agree that the patent system can't be blamed for Tesla getting screwed by Edison.
What good did all of those people with the same idea do us?
It took one person investing a lot of resources into it to find the working solution. The geniuses will continue to do their research, but the unglamorous part needs to be profitable or no one will want to do it.
In what way did Eddison's patents hold back Tesla? (this is a real question, I thought Tesla was very theroretical, and didn't realize that he was hampered by patents at all).
Eddison took the theroretical and made it something I could buy, and it was an expensive thing to do. He could do it quicker than anyone else, because he was willing to sink the resources into it. In 15 years we all win from his brute force effort (and if the monopoly is not abused too much we could all win instantly).
I (as you) believe that people like Eddison typify what the patent system was supposed to do, we just look at them differently. The extreme case of this brute forcing an invention is in the medical industry. Do you really think we would have drugs developed without patent protections?
Except in reality you are twice as likely to shoot a friend or family member than defend your home with your home defense gun.
I am willing to bet that Eddison himself knew this.
The fact that he claimed invention was 1% inspiration and 99% perspiration would imply to me that all you need to do is brute force it.
Of course, an argument could still be made that the patent system encourages brute forcing out the correct thing. My friend worked for the material sciences (or some such) lab at the university. He pulled stuff apart all day. There was an off chance that something wouldn't actually pull apart, and then the real fun begins. The amount of people that are making substances to pull apart is probably quite huge (relative to the one person whom would be credited with inventing the awesome new composite), but in a non-academic situation (and are even school labs purely academic?) the fact that you will get years to make money on it is encouragement to pay people to try and pull it apart on the off chance it is you that succeeds.
As far as finding new uses for the new awesome material the patent system probably helps a whole lot less.
That is why I personally think our system is broken. It should be designed around encouraging the raw R&D (create new material, like Goretex) not the marketing of it (jacket that breathes while being waterproof), which is surely the way things are going now.
I bet that MS is strongly trying to make sure Android succeeds. They have a lot to gain if it does.
More seriously I would bet they work on it, but keep it under wraps unless the platform takes off. That way if it does take off they are there with good integration, but if lack of this must have sinks the android MS has more potential in the mobile market.
I bet a main pillar of it (the definition) would be to censor big business and make sure they couldn't self regulate.
If I don't read the link (this being /. and me being lazy) does it mention something else?
Easy.
1)Come up with the terms of your non-conforming (to the GPL) distribution of product.
2)name your license (I shall choose "QHNDASPL")
3)QHNDASPL states "you may use either GPL, terms from 1, or QHNDASPL to redistribute"
4)Only accept submissions with the QHNDASPL license
This will leverage the many eyes, theoretically, and allow you to use any patches submitted.
You would not be able to use pure GPL code and leverage what already exists (as GPL), but you could use BSD code and accept patches (if that is what you meant by leverage).
This is similar to a lot of dual licenses that already exist, except many projects want you to assign ownership to submit. This is to make future license changes easier (see the difficulty getting Mozilla to GPL, or if it was wanted to ever get Linux to the standard GPL (not the GPL2 only it currently is).
Well this is the case where a judge ruled that information in RAM was a pertinant and they needed to keep a constant RAM dump to continue operating in the US (or a log of all US IPs).
Perhaps dropping info out of RAM is the destruction.
It doesn't make sense to xompare the bulk rate price of oil to cans of RedBull.
How much oil to you need to buy to have it physically delivered at a price approaching the price per a barrel (ignoring taxes even).
I agree.
I purchased a Sansung ML-2251N A few years ago. It is black and white only, but it printed over 5000 pages before I needed to buy more toner. And probably jammed about 4 times in the same span of time.
It was $200.00 well spent.
Well I guess it's their job to mirror the Open Office website then.
It really is kind of lame of them, but it is perfectly understandable, and if there is a huge problem someone should open up a mirror in Australia, and put some adds up.
Maybe I enjoy SimCity, or Myth 2?
I specifically mentioned that the reason I like open source is I can just recompile, or more likely someone else has done it.
I find proprietary software incredibly frustrating, but I like games, and there arn't too many good single player OSS ones. Enemy Territory is not too old of a game, and even that runs into issues on Linux now.
I annoyance of getting a functional Windows or MAC desktop vs Linux is extreme. Though arguably in the end the Widows and MAC are more functional (CS3 for example).
Try running old Linux apps and getting sound, if it even installs.
Windows will run stuff that is quite old, all my old Linux apps need special patches if they will run at all.
This is why I like open source, I can recompile, or let someone else do me if it popular enough, but with my SimCity or Myth 2 it is a chore.
Yes, but that does not drastically distort price.
The vast majority are still sold directly to consumers at the retail price.
The other 20% go to people who really want them. In the end you still would still have a similar number of people not getting Wiis or tickets that wanted them. It's just that you allowed some people (60% we'll say) to get them through dedication (always checking store, waiting in line at 3am), 20% with dumb luck, and 20% paying other people to be dedicated.
The only way it becomes a real problem is if that 20% took demand from satiated to over supply, but I doubt that is the case for the Wii, they have been sold out for a long time, and I really doubt the resellers are sitting on 20% of the summers stock, I would suspect it is more likely 5% of Octobers, 10% of Novembers, and 15% of Decembers. Unless large numbers go un-resold it all evens out in the end. Unless you are bitter against people with a few hundred extra dollors (I am not, only when it comes to vacation kind of money do I get bitter).
And really, as hard as they were to get all summer, $150.00 markup is not too bad if you really want one.
(499 for Wii+Wii Play+extra nunchuck+Alien Syndrome).
Do you really think a significant part of the 1,000,000 units/month (30,000/day) are being resold through the secondary market?
A quick glance has 90,000 on ebay in the last 3 weeks (we'll call it 125,000/month) 900 are listed on amazon, and I don't know where else to check.
These 20% or so that are in the reseller market are getting placed, just later than if they were sold in stores, so shouldn't be keeping supply so much more constricted than naturally.
There is a chance that people are sitting on thousands of Wii, but I somehow doubt it. The scalpers have it easy because they can.
1) buy up the good seats, there are not that many
2) buy a small percentage and let other people buy up the bulk at retail.
The second is what lets the Wii resellers succeed, they are not creating the demand, they are riding that wave.