Why is ARM better then x86 or GPU for this particular task, and for that matter, why is it so important and cost intensive that you would look to have gains after software rewrite to ARM? I honestly have no clue, enlighten me.
At that point it would make sense to count all samsung smartphone sales as well, at which point apple numbers would look positively tiny in comparison as samsung is currently the world's biggest maker of smartphones.
That's the problem. At the moment, it's not outclassing x86 nor GPUs due to severely lacking in terms of raw calculating power. The word is that "there's potential if ARM can increase its performance while keeping the low power requirements." That doesn't mean "it's happening" or even "it's going to happen".
And intel isn't exactly sleeping, so while ARM needs to get to increase it's workload per time, intel is working on increasing workload per energy. ARM may potentially hit the "sweet spot" at some time before intel as they are both targeting the same thing but from different angles. Or it may not, as intel gets there first. Either way, neither of them are there yet, in spite of hilarious hyperbole often pushed in the media looking for sensationalist headlines.
GPUs mostly rule that roost (crypto, highly parallelizable simple tasks). ARM has nothing on them in that regard, it's about a decade behind just like it's about a decade behind in x86 in general computing.
Let's be serious here: ARM is something companies have explored for a while now. It just isn't up to par (yet?) If it were, we'd see a lot of applications as server market is very profitable. And considering both the GPU and x86 advancement, chances are ARM will never be able to catch up.
So what we get is that GPUs outclass ARM in simple mathematics, x86 outclasses ARM in more complex things.
So, where is ARM supposed to actually fit in that grand scheme of server chip? That is a question answer to which big companies are yet to find in spite of a lot of very vocal looking.
You just compared a non-released chip from 2012 that is yet to be seen in any real life applications to a mobile x86 chip from 2003, and still didn't even get parity.
Half way to chip tech from 2012? Are you sure you want to lock that answer?
There is. The fact that ARM architechtule an order of magnitude or more behind the current x86 generation in terms of performance is a technical issue, and ARM is clearly having issues making its chips scale in speed without completely losing whatever advantage it has in low power. Hence all the talk about dark silicone in ARM world.
So this is yet another stooge calling for destruction of multi-purpose user-empowering system that is modern desktop in favor of single-purpose user-disempowering single application per single task model?
The unsaid main advantage is of course that stranglehold on the user granted by this model makes user a much better product to monetize.
There are currently two major map providers, and one that was late for the party. Big ones are Navteq, which has been owned by nokia for about five years and TeleAtlas, which has been more recently purchased by TomTom.
Then there's google, that is quite a bit behind the other two.
Navteq's native application had been rebranded ovi maps, and subsequently nokia maps and now provides mapping data (but not interface) for bing maps. It's still the same thing, and it's arguably the best on the market right now. TomTom still suffers from some adaptation problems and mapping issues, such as those spotted in ios6 (TomTom is the map data provider for apple). The main difference is that navteq/nokia offer full, global and lifetime mapping data and updates with the purchase of your device. TomTom's model is to charge microtransactions for these things (or at least it was when I tried using their standalone navigator a couple of years ago). The quality of application differs with the application provider, but in my experience nokia maps are about as good as tomtom's standalone devices.
Indeed. You view about hundred years of animosity with those you have to face as the peak, something so terrible that it can't get any worse. As a result you simply have no connection nor understanding, intellectual or subconscious of what millenia of feuds against those you do not see but hear about all the time do to the collective and individual psyche. You simply lack the base for understanding, as you have never encountered this in your own life. As is the case for many people that come from US and Canada.
The only problem is that you also assume that you do in fact have the knowledge, and that there can't be anything worse. For that is where you are terribly wrong.
At this point, it's not longer an estimate. It's a certainty. You're beyond clueless on the subject, because in addition to being ignorant of the issue at hand, you're also assuming the "neighborly relations" talk about person to person relationships. In a way, you cannot help it - youre a product of your environment. And that is probably a positive thing - if more people were like you, most of the conflicts in the world would not exist.
If you need an example of just how deep the "hate your neighbor" goes, look at Japan-China relations. Both sides hate each others' guts. They tolerate each other as long as business demands it on both ends, and as long as survival demands it on both ends. But god forbid one side will feel that it can get away with something - then it will do that something. No matter how bloody it will be for the other side.
If that doesn't satisfy your interest, start going to other places. Look up the current climate in Africa. Look at situation in Balkans. Look at any long term neighborly relations at all, and you'll see the same massive antagonism. It's the reality that is invisible and very difficult to understand to the native of US, because US is a massive exception in terms of its ethnic, racial and cultural background in the world. It's a chimera of a state, a former colony that actually collected immigrants from all over the world. This is a very rare kind of a state, and it has problems of its own - but as a result it also lacks many problems that rest of the world has. Such as the cultural disposition to "hate those different from us who were competing with us for millenia".
Your claims of "realisation" shine from this point of view. To you, this would actually make sense. To those of us who grew up in the rest of the world, it's naivete of remarkable proportions.
Since this is windows, it will be using bing maps, formerly known as nokia maps. At least on symbian, these allow you to choose where the navigation and mapping data is stored.
We've had that since before world war 2. It's called AAA, Anti-air artillery. Modern automatic AAA swats small drones out of the sky faster then you can launch them.
Or you can just jam their control signals, fake your own and have them land on your airfield.
Or, if you're talking about neighborly relations, I'm pretty sure that shotguns that are used to hunt birds will make for a wonderful counter if someone decides to be dumb enough to watch you fap in the shower.
You'll be using nokia maps with windows 8. It's one of the best if not the best on the market (navteq's data) and lifetime worldwide free online and offline.
It can store its data where you tell it to, or at least the symbian version I'm using can, be it system drive or memory card. I'd be surprised if they gimped it to not be able to store data on memory card.
Windows phones 7's handling of it was idiotic, in fact probably almost as bad as ios and definitely much worse then android. Don't think anyone is going to deny that. They used microSD as some sort of weird system drive with its own formatting and all and on most phones it wasn't really removable, it was just a way for them to save costs on making phones by inserting cheap non-customized memory card as system drive.
You misspelled "apple land" there. Microsoft handily includes a microSD port with its tablets. You seem too used to the fact that in apple tablets and phones, whatever memory you buy the device with, you're stuck with. This is not the case here.
You're badly misinformed. This isn't a "form over function" tablet, where you can't. This is a function and form, where you in fact can upgrade the hard drive. Though in mobile devices, we called these "microSD cards" since... well nokia n95 or so?
That was actually the way smartphones of old worked, and it's a FAR more customer-friendly approach. "We give you a smallish system drive and a functional expansion slot so you can buy as much as you need".
Considering microSD prices and the product, this is going to be a deal breaker for no one.
Slashdot Mirror
Ah, you're talking about hypothetical applications. ARM seems to be the king of those.
Shame no one ever managed to get those to work at levels needed for actual production so far.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Symbolic_computation
Why is ARM better then x86 or GPU for this particular task, and for that matter, why is it so important and cost intensive that you would look to have gains after software rewrite to ARM? I honestly have no clue, enlighten me.
At that point it would make sense to count all samsung smartphone sales as well, at which point apple numbers would look positively tiny in comparison as samsung is currently the world's biggest maker of smartphones.
That's the problem. At the moment, it's not outclassing x86 nor GPUs due to severely lacking in terms of raw calculating power. The word is that "there's potential if ARM can increase its performance while keeping the low power requirements." That doesn't mean "it's happening" or even "it's going to happen".
And intel isn't exactly sleeping, so while ARM needs to get to increase it's workload per time, intel is working on increasing workload per energy. ARM may potentially hit the "sweet spot" at some time before intel as they are both targeting the same thing but from different angles. Or it may not, as intel gets there first. Either way, neither of them are there yet, in spite of hilarious hyperbole often pushed in the media looking for sensationalist headlines.
GPUs mostly rule that roost (crypto, highly parallelizable simple tasks). ARM has nothing on them in that regard, it's about a decade behind just like it's about a decade behind in x86 in general computing.
Let's be serious here: ARM is something companies have explored for a while now. It just isn't up to par (yet?) If it were, we'd see a lot of applications as server market is very profitable. And considering both the GPU and x86 advancement, chances are ARM will never be able to catch up.
So what we get is that GPUs outclass ARM in simple mathematics, x86 outclasses ARM in more complex things.
So, where is ARM supposed to actually fit in that grand scheme of server chip? That is a question answer to which big companies are yet to find in spite of a lot of very vocal looking.
You just compared a non-released chip from 2012 that is yet to be seen in any real life applications to a mobile x86 chip from 2003, and still didn't even get parity.
Half way to chip tech from 2012? Are you sure you want to lock that answer?
There is. The fact that ARM architechtule an order of magnitude or more behind the current x86 generation in terms of performance is a technical issue, and ARM is clearly having issues making its chips scale in speed without completely losing whatever advantage it has in low power. Hence all the talk about dark silicone in ARM world.
So this is yet another stooge calling for destruction of multi-purpose user-empowering system that is modern desktop in favor of single-purpose user-disempowering single application per single task model?
The unsaid main advantage is of course that stranglehold on the user granted by this model makes user a much better product to monetize.
Spiegel had a very good series of articles on different forms of governance, their strengths and weaknesses. Here is a link to part 4 (China) and you can find links to introduction as well as parts 1-3 (Brazil, US, Denmark) in the preamble of the article:
http://www.spiegel.de/international/world/putting-the-plan-into-action-how-china-s-leaders-steer-a-massive-nation-a-843593.html
Frankly, at least government can be held accountable in democracy.
Good luck with the corporations though. And unlike governments, corporations don't have to take care of people either.
There are currently two major map providers, and one that was late for the party. Big ones are Navteq, which has been owned by nokia for about five years and TeleAtlas, which has been more recently purchased by TomTom.
Then there's google, that is quite a bit behind the other two.
Navteq's native application had been rebranded ovi maps, and subsequently nokia maps and now provides mapping data (but not interface) for bing maps. It's still the same thing, and it's arguably the best on the market right now. TomTom still suffers from some adaptation problems and mapping issues, such as those spotted in ios6 (TomTom is the map data provider for apple). The main difference is that navteq/nokia offer full, global and lifetime mapping data and updates with the purchase of your device. TomTom's model is to charge microtransactions for these things (or at least it was when I tried using their standalone navigator a couple of years ago). The quality of application differs with the application provider, but in my experience nokia maps are about as good as tomtom's standalone devices.
Indeed. You view about hundred years of animosity with those you have to face as the peak, something so terrible that it can't get any worse. As a result you simply have no connection nor understanding, intellectual or subconscious of what millenia of feuds against those you do not see but hear about all the time do to the collective and individual psyche. You simply lack the base for understanding, as you have never encountered this in your own life. As is the case for many people that come from US and Canada.
The only problem is that you also assume that you do in fact have the knowledge, and that there can't be anything worse. For that is where you are terribly wrong.
At this point, it's not longer an estimate. It's a certainty. You're beyond clueless on the subject, because in addition to being ignorant of the issue at hand, you're also assuming the "neighborly relations" talk about person to person relationships. In a way, you cannot help it - youre a product of your environment. And that is probably a positive thing - if more people were like you, most of the conflicts in the world would not exist.
If you need an example of just how deep the "hate your neighbor" goes, look at Japan-China relations. Both sides hate each others' guts. They tolerate each other as long as business demands it on both ends, and as long as survival demands it on both ends. But god forbid one side will feel that it can get away with something - then it will do that something. No matter how bloody it will be for the other side.
If that doesn't satisfy your interest, start going to other places. Look up the current climate in Africa. Look at situation in Balkans. Look at any long term neighborly relations at all, and you'll see the same massive antagonism. It's the reality that is invisible and very difficult to understand to the native of US, because US is a massive exception in terms of its ethnic, racial and cultural background in the world. It's a chimera of a state, a former colony that actually collected immigrants from all over the world. This is a very rare kind of a state, and it has problems of its own - but as a result it also lacks many problems that rest of the world has. Such as the cultural disposition to "hate those different from us who were competing with us for millenia".
Your claims of "realisation" shine from this point of view. To you, this would actually make sense. To those of us who grew up in the rest of the world, it's naivete of remarkable proportions.
Since this is windows, it will be using bing maps, formerly known as nokia maps. At least on symbian, these allow you to choose where the navigation and mapping data is stored.
We've had that since before world war 2. It's called AAA, Anti-air artillery. Modern automatic AAA swats small drones out of the sky faster then you can launch them.
Or you can just jam their control signals, fake your own and have them land on your airfield.
Or, if you're talking about neighborly relations, I'm pretty sure that shotguns that are used to hunt birds will make for a wonderful counter if someone decides to be dumb enough to watch you fap in the shower.
Symbian still sells more then windows phone worldwide, so I imagine that there's quite a lot more then a handful of people developing for it.
You'll be using nokia maps with windows 8. It's one of the best if not the best on the market (navteq's data) and lifetime worldwide free online and offline.
It can store its data where you tell it to, or at least the symbian version I'm using can, be it system drive or memory card. I'd be surprised if they gimped it to not be able to store data on memory card.
Yes, but the point is that they use storage space for things that aren't application but data.
Things you can use expansion slot for on w8.
Windows phones 7's handling of it was idiotic, in fact probably almost as bad as ios and definitely much worse then android. Don't think anyone is going to deny that. They used microSD as some sort of weird system drive with its own formatting and all and on most phones it wasn't really removable, it was just a way for them to save costs on making phones by inserting cheap non-customized memory card as system drive.
Yes, microSD is RAM.
Fracking idiots who can't read?
Or about the same on microSD card.
You misspelled "apple land" there. Microsoft handily includes a microSD port with its tablets.
You seem too used to the fact that in apple tablets and phones, whatever memory you buy the device with, you're stuck with. This is not the case here.
You're badly misinformed. This isn't a "form over function" tablet, where you can't. This is a function and form, where you in fact can upgrade the hard drive. Though in mobile devices, we called these "microSD cards" since... well nokia n95 or so?
That was actually the way smartphones of old worked, and it's a FAR more customer-friendly approach. "We give you a smallish system drive and a functional expansion slot so you can buy as much as you need".
Considering microSD prices and the product, this is going to be a deal breaker for no one.