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It makes your warranty void,
Point. But while arguing for the right to hack and tinker, that sort of comes with the job so is not an issue.
Installing not-windows on your HP voids warranties too, as stupid as that sounds, which is the exact type of thing the GP is wanting in his hardware.
I'm not saying this is a good thing, it's just not something a tinkerer/hacker type can really expect to state with a straight face.
prevents you from installing the official security patch,
Nonsense. My jail broken phone is running the latest software and patches.
and is generally a legal grey area...
It is actually very easy to do without having to download or distribute any of apples copyrighted software (or any other software without an explicitly free license)
While of course some people can, and probably most people do, use jail breaking to violate copyrights with pirated apps, this is in no way a requirement and only takes your own will power not to do it to avoid breaking the law.
The open repositories that you gain access to with the jail broken software have a whole lot of free software, and you can of course continue to install free itunes apps.
Nothing about me modifying hardware I own, in ways that do not touch upon others rights, is in any way a legal gray area.
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Jailbroken or not, the iPad is still locked into Apple.
Seeing as that is the exact and only reason jailbreaking exists, your statement translates into "Locked into apple or NOT locked into apple, the iPad is still locked into apple." which is both a contradiction and wrong.
Explain how jail breaking remains locked to apple, else you are ejected from this conversation.
There are much better alternatives to the iPad which will allow you freedom over your own device.
I guess out of your list of examples, all zero of them, sure. Hard to argue a non-existant device is better or not than something.
Isolate them, and ask each one who the other says is guilty.
If they both actually believe themselves to be innocent, then neither will have admitted anything to the other, and possibly both will blame the other, since no matter now much they 'cant believe he would do that', they would be sure they didn't.
On the other hand, if one IS guilty and this is a ploy to avoid an arrest, then both will know that one does not have to answer that question at all, let alone truthfully. They would both have agreed to say "I know for sure I did not do it, and I just can't believe my brother would do that ever, but I don't know how else to explain the evidence"
... And whoever at Apple looks at the submission "iCade MAME Emulation App" will laugh maniacally as they hit the giant red DENIED button.
Actually, MAME has already been ported to the iPod/iPhone, and runs fully. My fully, I mean it has no emulation issues that the full version doesn't also have, not that it is actually fast enough to be playable.
At least on my 3G iPhone it is too slow to actually play. However it is fast enough to show that it works. In Golden Axe I was getting almost 1 frame a second, but at times it dipped down to what felt like 1 frame every 2-3 seconds for a few moments.
The reasons I even mention this are: a) The iPad is faster. Fast enough? Dunno. b) This MAME port is a flat port. no optimizations or assembly enhanced updates (or very few) c) The code is there and functional. Anyone can pick it up and run with it.
Obviously touch screen controls will suck for emulating a console or arcade of any sort, but that is exactly what external controllers like this are for!
I also know it is possible to actually build a controller like this. When I was pondering the problem of how to use a console controller, I knew I could access the docking station serial port on my iPhone, so it was just a matter of a 'driver' that polled the controller on the serial port, and translated it to touch points on the screen.
Now I just use either my wiimote or PS3 wireless controller with my iPhone over bluetooth. Much better way of doing things. In fact if I had to build a joystick for my iPhone now, I would only use the dock connector for anchoring the phone to the joystick, and if the joystick is an arcade cabinet like this as so plugging it in the wall is an option, that will probably charge the iPhone. The data will go bluetooth.
Speaking with wisdom and reserve gets you +5 Insightful, not simple anti-Apple claptrap.
You are clearly new here.
Wisdom and reserve gets you +1 Troll. Stating cited facts gets you +1 flamebait or overrated Hating on any company that is both successful financially and making changes (for better or good, but changes none the less) to the world is +5 Insightful.
And just to put this post back on topic, here is my opinion-based list of companies commonly hated on here:
Yeay: Google, wikileaks, Steve Jobs (but not Apple these days), the pirate bay, and the guy that made hamster dance. Nay: Microsoft, RIAA/MPAA, SCO, and Rupert Murdock.
This is really cool and awesome, but why would I wan't to run this on my browser?
From your implied lack of interest in things technical and nerdy, I would venture a guess that you (you personally) would NOT want to run this in your browser.
If you would have read the summary or article, the person broke into their home. There is not a single computer system on the market that will prevent against a physical attack that is under $100k.
Even the expensive ones don't STOP physical attacks, just to slow one down with the idea that the armed guys with guns will show up before the attack succeeds.
If you can't afford armed guards and a fortified building to put it in, there is less than zero reasons to even bother with a physically secured computer (Since by definition at that point, it is not)
Not a single electronic security measure you listed or could list would stop this type of crime. Maybe stop this one single act of this type of crime, because it seems this guy wasn't too bright, but it will do nothing for any other case.
Using IE 8 with adobe plugin, calc opens but running in the sandbox.
Here in firefox with foxit, noscript first caught it, but then i allowed it and calc opened with no warnings or anything and it is running in my user account.
There are plenty of torrent trackers that are exclusively free/legal content, they aren't being prosecuted
Untrue.
The RIAA presses suits against indie bands distributing their own music they made for a price they choose (Torrents and free respectively), for copyright violations.
It doesn't matter that they are in the right, what matters is it costs years worth of pay to purchase time in court to prove it.
The copyright holder industries have shown time and time again that the only thing they want is to be the sole distribution (at a cost) of all musical media. Their statements, actions, and behavior all indicate they feel entitled to all music in existence, and how DARE anyone try to steal money from them by making your own music.
Shutting down legal music torrent sites with copyright take down notices and lawsuits, is proof that any amount of infringing material from 0% up to 99% is justification to them, and they have (and will continue until slapped down hard in court) to do so.
As for the site operations intentions to induce mass scale copyright violation... That is solidly not legal however, so your overall point is correct on that alone.
The "pirates wouldn't buy it anyway" argument is a farce. I wouldn't buy a Lamborghini "anyway" but I shouldn't get one for free.
Why? That makes no sense. Why shouldn't you? Or I?
If I could have a free Lamborghini, while satisfying both a) I am not depriving anyone who has a Lamborghini of their Lamborghini b) I am not decreasing the number of Lamborghini (Lamborghinii ?) available in the world...
Then why not? If somehow a Lamborghini could, for free, materialize in front of my house and the above two conditions are actually met, then why CAN'T I have that free Lamborghini? Who should get it if not me?
Why should you get my Lamborghini, when you can have your own Lamborghini appear in front of your home the same way mine did.
That situation is the only way you can compare a Lamborghini to a digital download.
The only time a strong world government is remotely possible is in light of foreign invaders. And by foreign, I mean extraterrestrial.
You miss an obvious point. If somebody comes here from another world, they have an distinct technological advantage. If anything history has shown that wars are won by the one having that advantage, so basically there wont be any invasions from space that we expel. - sorry to burst your bubble.
While that is very true I'd still bet money, assuming we have enough advance notice of their arrival, that our governments would still attempt to do such a thing as form a world government to try and fight it.
In that given situation, I would assume we would be obliterated from above orbit if that was their desire and no attack of ours would be able to reach them.
I also would have doubts on enough advanced warning, as technology at that level could pretty much prevent us from being aware of it at all, right up until the obliteration thing of course.
In the end, at least we can agree that for whatever reasons, it will not be a situation worth expecting.
As a member of the PS3Cluster team I would like to say that Sony's cutting off of 3rd party OSes from their platform is going to impact the Air Force, UMass Dartmouth and other organizations using PS3 hardware as massively parallel clusters for scientific computing.
Maybe if you took the cluster down at night for some gaming. Otherwise no, there is no reason for you to touch the firmware you are using.
And if you are playing games on the air force ps3 cluster at night.. awesome!
Contrary to his title, "Lord British" is not, in fact, British. He's actually American and even went to my high school in League City, Texas, USA.
Ahh, I was going by the Wikipedia article, which while not disagreeing with you, does state he was born in Cambridge England, then moved to Texas in the US. Assuming that is true, he is/was indeed a British citizen.
As a citizen of a nation whom signed that treaty, his government's law is still held over him, and the UK law (by treaty) is that no nation or person can own the moon, it is there for all of mankind.
Maybe possibly he could do so if he has his citizenship canceled (Is that possible in the UK? I know it is in the USA but obviously that doesn't apply here)
However with no citizenship to pretty much any first world nation with space technology, that will leave him out in the cold for trying to claim his property. He also stands a good chance of getting shot down if he did somehow manage to launch from a country that does not have a space program. (ZOMG, is that an incoming ICMB?! better not take any chances, press the red button!)
PKZIP had a patented compression method. Zlib did the same thing, just using a different method, and created compatible files. MP3 encoders bypassed Fraunhofer patents. Maybe the output wasn't byte-for-byte the same, nor the compression levels equal, but there is a serious hole in the argument for software patents when you can just do the same thing a different way and get around the patent.
That is the entire point of patents however. They are NEVER to cover an outcome, only a process.
So of course getting the same result as another patented process is OK, and totally irrelevant. Only using the same process to get there makes you run fowl of the patent laws.
(Yes I realize there are 'end result' patents currently, but they all go against the patent offices charter statements, and the constitutional additions that let that office exist in the first place.)
I think it makes more sense for these apps to STFU and not run at all, unless another program calls them. THEN it can update, or better yet, just have an updater run on boot then shut itself the hell off until you need the app.
Or someone should introduce their programmers to crontab and Scheduled Tasks, as those were invented to do exactly that while using the least resources as possible.
And how do they know that they've found 90% of what was previously hidden?
Maybe there's more hidden than they thought was hidden.
Is the size of the universe so widely agreed-upon? Far be it from me to challenge a headline in Science, but I'm just a little curious about this assertion.
It's because of gravity. In order for galaxies to look the way they look, there has to be a certain amount of gravity. Too much and it gets sucked inward faster and would look very different. Too little and they fly apart. Thus, we know how much mass is required for the effect we see out of gravity.
But previously they could only see about 10% of the mass they were expecting.
Some said our theories were wrong. Others that 'stuff' must exist that is so weird and different, and called that dark matter.
Yea, it was always there, we were just looking in the wrong way (If this is correct of course)
This means dark matter is found, because it is no longer a requirement that dark matter must not interact with visible light. This stuff does just that, and makes up the full 100% that we were expecting originally.
Any dark matter now would put the universe at over 100% mass, which would just be silly.
Yes, blame the victim. You didn't install triple deadbolts on your door. It's not my fault all your stuff got fenced by me.
My password is indeed 12345, and it's perfectly OK to post here because it is a SECRET password.
If you hack into my password and guess it, you should go to prison for life, just like you advocate!
Ooops, looks like you 'guessed' it from my post, er i mean hacked into my password.. Hope you either really enjoy prison, or really enjoy being a hypocrite.
Well, they've been doing that for god knows how long, but not in the way you think. You see, most weed groweries bypass the meter so they don't have to pay gargantuan energy bills. So, instead the power company looks at the discrepancy between billing and consumption at the block level. If a large enough discrepancy is noted, i.e. something big, they inform the DEA. Note: I assume they do it like this in the USA, as this is how many countries (including my own) do it.
They also inform the local police at some point in the process as well.
I found this out when a sheriff came to my door about this exact thing. Except in my case, I just brought online some Sun RSM 2000 disk array cabinets in my basement.
I had to get a second power run from the electric company for a second 100 amp mains line. Apparently the left hand of AEP wasn't talking to the left hand, who was definitely talking to the police.
I was never accused of stealing power, or even using too much power. He said they report the usage increase.
I would assume they already went by with thermal cameras from the sky and all that before hand. I guess I should be thankful the 'server room' was not on the second floor and venting through the attic;}
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It makes your warranty void,
Point. But while arguing for the right to hack and tinker, that sort of comes with the job so is not an issue.
Installing not-windows on your HP voids warranties too, as stupid as that sounds, which is the exact type of thing the GP is wanting in his hardware.
I'm not saying this is a good thing, it's just not something a tinkerer/hacker type can really expect to state with a straight face.
prevents you from installing the official security patch,
Nonsense. My jail broken phone is running the latest software and patches.
and is generally a legal grey area ...
It is actually very easy to do without having to download or distribute any of apples copyrighted software (or any other software without an explicitly free license)
While of course some people can, and probably most people do, use jail breaking to violate copyrights with pirated apps, this is in no way a requirement and only takes your own will power not to do it to avoid breaking the law.
The open repositories that you gain access to with the jail broken software have a whole lot of free software, and you can of course continue to install free itunes apps.
Nothing about me modifying hardware I own, in ways that do not touch upon others rights, is in any way a legal gray area.
Rockbox does run on the iPhone and iPod.
Stop trolling
Jailbroken or not, the iPad is still locked into Apple.
Seeing as that is the exact and only reason jailbreaking exists, your statement translates into "Locked into apple or NOT locked into apple, the iPad is still locked into apple." which is both a contradiction and wrong.
Explain how jail breaking remains locked to apple, else you are ejected from this conversation.
There are much better alternatives to the iPad which will allow you freedom over your own device.
I guess out of your list of examples, all zero of them, sure. Hard to argue a non-existant device is better or not than something.
Isolate them, and ask each one who the other says is guilty.
If they both actually believe themselves to be innocent, then neither will have admitted anything to the other, and possibly both will blame the other, since no matter now much they 'cant believe he would do that', they would be sure they didn't.
On the other hand, if one IS guilty and this is a ploy to avoid an arrest, then both will know that one does not have to answer that question at all, let alone truthfully.
They would both have agreed to say "I know for sure I did not do it, and I just can't believe my brother would do that ever, but I don't know how else to explain the evidence"
... And whoever at Apple looks at the submission "iCade MAME Emulation App" will laugh maniacally as they hit the giant red DENIED button.
Actually, MAME has already been ported to the iPod/iPhone, and runs fully.
My fully, I mean it has no emulation issues that the full version doesn't also have, not that it is actually fast enough to be playable.
At least on my 3G iPhone it is too slow to actually play.
However it is fast enough to show that it works. In Golden Axe I was getting almost 1 frame a second, but at times it dipped down to what felt like 1 frame every 2-3 seconds for a few moments.
The reasons I even mention this are:
a) The iPad is faster. Fast enough? Dunno.
b) This MAME port is a flat port. no optimizations or assembly enhanced updates (or very few)
c) The code is there and functional. Anyone can pick it up and run with it.
Obviously touch screen controls will suck for emulating a console or arcade of any sort, but that is exactly what external controllers like this are for!
I also know it is possible to actually build a controller like this. When I was pondering the problem of how to use a console controller, I knew I could access the docking station serial port on my iPhone, so it was just a matter of a 'driver' that polled the controller on the serial port, and translated it to touch points on the screen.
Now I just use either my wiimote or PS3 wireless controller with my iPhone over bluetooth. Much better way of doing things.
In fact if I had to build a joystick for my iPhone now, I would only use the dock connector for anchoring the phone to the joystick, and if the joystick is an arcade cabinet like this as so plugging it in the wall is an option, that will probably charge the iPhone.
The data will go bluetooth.
Speaking with wisdom and reserve gets you +5 Insightful, not simple anti-Apple claptrap.
You are clearly new here.
Wisdom and reserve gets you +1 Troll.
Stating cited facts gets you +1 flamebait or overrated
Hating on any company that is both successful financially and making changes (for better or good, but changes none the less) to the world is +5 Insightful.
And just to put this post back on topic, here is my opinion-based list of companies commonly hated on here:
Yeay: Google, wikileaks, Steve Jobs (but not Apple these days), the pirate bay, and the guy that made hamster dance.
Nay: Microsoft, RIAA/MPAA, SCO, and Rupert Murdock.
This is really cool and awesome, but why would I wan't to run this on my browser?
From your implied lack of interest in things technical and nerdy, I would venture a guess that you (you personally) would NOT want to run this in your browser.
How about running a SECURE system at home?
Not possible to do.
If you would have read the summary or article, the person broke into their home.
There is not a single computer system on the market that will prevent against a physical attack that is under $100k.
Even the expensive ones don't STOP physical attacks, just to slow one down with the idea that the armed guys with guns will show up before the attack succeeds.
If you can't afford armed guards and a fortified building to put it in, there is less than zero reasons to even bother with a physically secured computer (Since by definition at that point, it is not)
Not a single electronic security measure you listed or could list would stop this type of crime.
Maybe stop this one single act of this type of crime, because it seems this guy wasn't too bright, but it will do nothing for any other case.
Windows 7 64bit Enterprise, UAC enabled.
Using IE 8 with adobe plugin, calc opens but running in the sandbox.
Here in firefox with foxit, noscript first caught it, but then i allowed it and calc opened with no warnings or anything and it is running in my user account.
This is so horribly bad.
There are plenty of torrent trackers that are exclusively free/legal content, they aren't being prosecuted
Untrue.
The RIAA presses suits against indie bands distributing their own music they made for a price they choose (Torrents and free respectively), for copyright violations.
It doesn't matter that they are in the right, what matters is it costs years worth of pay to purchase time in court to prove it.
The copyright holder industries have shown time and time again that the only thing they want is to be the sole distribution (at a cost) of all musical media.
Their statements, actions, and behavior all indicate they feel entitled to all music in existence, and how DARE anyone try to steal money from them by making your own music.
Shutting down legal music torrent sites with copyright take down notices and lawsuits, is proof that any amount of infringing material from 0% up to 99% is justification to them, and they have (and will continue until slapped down hard in court) to do so.
As for the site operations intentions to induce mass scale copyright violation... That is solidly not legal however, so your overall point is correct on that alone.
The "pirates wouldn't buy it anyway" argument is a farce. I wouldn't buy a Lamborghini "anyway" but I shouldn't get one for free.
Why? That makes no sense.
Why shouldn't you? Or I?
If I could have a free Lamborghini, while satisfying both ...
a) I am not depriving anyone who has a Lamborghini of their Lamborghini
b) I am not decreasing the number of Lamborghini (Lamborghinii ?) available in the world
Then why not? If somehow a Lamborghini could, for free, materialize in front of my house and the above two conditions are actually met, then why CAN'T I have that free Lamborghini?
Who should get it if not me?
Why should you get my Lamborghini, when you can have your own Lamborghini appear in front of your home the same way mine did.
That situation is the only way you can compare a Lamborghini to a digital download.
And sorry, I just REALLY love saying Lamborghini
The only time a strong world government is remotely possible is in light of foreign invaders. And by foreign, I mean extraterrestrial.
You miss an obvious point. If somebody comes here from another world, they have an distinct technological advantage. If anything history has shown that wars are won by the one having that advantage, so basically there wont be any invasions from space that we expel. - sorry to burst your bubble.
While that is very true I'd still bet money, assuming we have enough advance notice of their arrival, that our governments would still attempt to do such a thing as form a world government to try and fight it.
In that given situation, I would assume we would be obliterated from above orbit if that was their desire and no attack of ours would be able to reach them.
I also would have doubts on enough advanced warning, as technology at that level could pretty much prevent us from being aware of it at all, right up until the obliteration thing of course.
In the end, at least we can agree that for whatever reasons, it will not be a situation worth expecting.
As a member of the PS3Cluster team I would like to say that Sony's cutting off of 3rd party OSes from their platform is going to impact the Air Force, UMass Dartmouth and other organizations using PS3 hardware as massively parallel clusters for scientific computing.
Maybe if you took the cluster down at night for some gaming. Otherwise no, there is no reason for you to touch the firmware you are using.
And if you are playing games on the air force ps3 cluster at night.. awesome!
Contrary to his title, "Lord British" is not, in fact, British. He's actually American and even went to my high school in League City, Texas, USA.
Ahh, I was going by the Wikipedia article, which while not disagreeing with you, does state he was born in Cambridge England, then moved to Texas in the US.
Assuming that is true, he is/was indeed a British citizen.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Richard_Garriott
Even if he is a US citizen, or dual citizenship, both countries still have signed the treaty I mentioned and he would still fall under those laws.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Outer_Space_Treaty
As a citizen of a nation whom signed that treaty, his government's law is still held over him, and the UK law (by treaty) is that no nation or person can own the moon, it is there for all of mankind.
Maybe possibly he could do so if he has his citizenship canceled (Is that possible in the UK? I know it is in the USA but obviously that doesn't apply here)
However with no citizenship to pretty much any first world nation with space technology, that will leave him out in the cold for trying to claim his property. He also stands a good chance of getting shot down if he did somehow manage to launch from a country that does not have a space program.
(ZOMG, is that an incoming ICMB?! better not take any chances, press the red button!)
PKZIP had a patented compression method. Zlib did the same thing, just using a different method, and created compatible files. MP3 encoders bypassed Fraunhofer patents. Maybe the output wasn't byte-for-byte the same, nor the compression levels equal, but there is a serious hole in the argument for software patents when you can just do the same thing a different way and get around the patent.
That is the entire point of patents however. They are NEVER to cover an outcome, only a process.
So of course getting the same result as another patented process is OK, and totally irrelevant.
Only using the same process to get there makes you run fowl of the patent laws.
(Yes I realize there are 'end result' patents currently, but they all go against the patent offices charter statements, and the constitutional additions that let that office exist in the first place.)
Base-10 has no place with computers because nothing with computers is calculated/measured in base-10
Except when that computer is on a network, which is all base 10. Or when the computer has a CPU in it that is running, which is measured in base 10.
Arguably 100% of the things computers exist for, humans, calculate and measure in base 10.
I think it makes more sense for these apps to STFU and not run at all, unless another program calls them. THEN it can update, or better yet, just have an updater run on boot then shut itself the hell off until you need the app.
Or someone should introduce their programmers to crontab and Scheduled Tasks, as those were invented to do exactly that while using the least resources as possible.
What about the sea life that relies on that heat?
It will live on, in our memories and hearts. At least until the effects of that sea life dying make it to our little corner of the biosphere.
And how do they know that they've found 90% of what was previously hidden?
Maybe there's more hidden than they thought was hidden.
Is the size of the universe so widely agreed-upon? Far be it from me to challenge a headline in Science, but I'm just a little curious about this assertion.
It's because of gravity. In order for galaxies to look the way they look, there has to be a certain amount of gravity. Too much and it gets sucked inward faster and would look very different. Too little and they fly apart.
Thus, we know how much mass is required for the effect we see out of gravity.
But previously they could only see about 10% of the mass they were expecting.
Some said our theories were wrong. Others that 'stuff' must exist that is so weird and different, and called that dark matter.
Yea, it was always there, we were just looking in the wrong way (If this is correct of course)
This means dark matter is found, because it is no longer a requirement that dark matter must not interact with visible light. This stuff does just that, and makes up the full 100% that we were expecting originally.
Any dark matter now would put the universe at over 100% mass, which would just be silly.
Are you telling me that TSA security officers are forbidden to spank the monkey?
Wow, they are gunna be pissed after spending all that money on the full body clothes-removing-picture machines they just bought to spank the monkey to
Yes, but the White House has better security than John Q. Public's house, and for good reason.
Well, twitter passwords excluded of course ;}
Yes, blame the victim. You didn't install triple deadbolts on your door. It's not my fault all your stuff got fenced by me.
My password is indeed 12345, and it's perfectly OK to post here because it is a SECRET password.
If you hack into my password and guess it, you should go to prison for life, just like you advocate!
Ooops, looks like you 'guessed' it from my post, er i mean hacked into my password.. Hope you either really enjoy prison, or really enjoy being a hypocrite.
Am I the only one who is skeptical of these smart meter devices? I don't want hackers to be shut off my power or anything else.
Hackers can already do that now however. Instead of a computer, they just use wire cutters.
Seeing as both need physical access to do...
Well, they've been doing that for god knows how long, but not in the way you think. You see, most weed groweries bypass the meter so they don't have to pay gargantuan energy bills. So, instead the power company looks at the discrepancy between billing and consumption at the block level. If a large enough discrepancy is noted, i.e. something big, they inform the DEA. Note: I assume they do it like this in the USA, as this is how many countries (including my own) do it.
They also inform the local police at some point in the process as well.
I found this out when a sheriff came to my door about this exact thing.
Except in my case, I just brought online some Sun RSM 2000 disk array cabinets in my basement.
I had to get a second power run from the electric company for a second 100 amp mains line.
Apparently the left hand of AEP wasn't talking to the left hand, who was definitely talking to the police.
I was never accused of stealing power, or even using too much power. He said they report the usage increase.
I would assume they already went by with thermal cameras from the sky and all that before hand. ;}
I guess I should be thankful the 'server room' was not on the second floor and venting through the attic