Loosing a driver's license is a pretty minor expense in comparison to loosing a passport - and driver's licenses are generally replaced quite quickly here in NY state.
It's true! Loose passports sink ships. Or something like that. So remember to tighten your passports, folks!
This is exactly correct. Centering everything on "cultural homogeneity" is ludicrous when there are so many other characteristics of the societies that play a much more obvious and direct role here. Particularly when you look at the history of truly culturally homogenous cultures over time.
If the imaged object does turn out to be a planet â" and it's not certain it is â" then theories of planet formation may have to be adjusted.
Whereas if this thing that is bigger than 8 Jupiters turns out to be something other than a planet, we may have some other theories to adjust. But I, for one, welcome our giant space traveling overlords!
Except OBL never worked for the US even as an "independent contractor" (e.g. mercenary). OBL isn't and never was a merc. He led an army of jihadists against the Soviets in Afghanistan and spun some good stories about how he singlehandedly won the war. But he never worked for the Americans, not even on a contract basis. The record is pretty clear on this based on extensive research by (among others) journalists Steve Coll and Peter Bergen.
The fact is his army was mostly militarily insignificant to the war and certainly wasn't worth the time of the US to get involved with -- we were busy funding and training the Afghani guerrillas who far outnumbered the "Arab Afghans" and played far more decisive a role. (And who, not incidentally, lived there and weren't planning on leaving, unlike OBL's jihadists). bin Laden was never a CIA agent, asset, associate, or mercenary.
Nonsense. The "Tim Osman" stuff is garbage someone made up and plastered all over the internet shortly after 9/11. It was based on the rantings and scribblings of some mental patient with a tangential connection to an intel agency if I remember correctly, and I probably don't. But it's complete bullshit that "The CIA openly acknowledge that OBL was an asset and was in fact trained by the CIA." They acknowledge no such thing and they even had a blurby disclaimer on their web page for a while explicitly stating that bin Laden never worked for CIA. as for training mujahideen, it depends whom you mean. The CIA did help train Afghani fighters (through the ISI who did most of the dirty work). The CIA did not train bin Ladin or his rag tag band of jihadists, and had very little contact with them if any.
It would be incompetent for them NOT to use the public domain resources available. The military is not and should not be in the business of "scooping" the media. Are you seriously suggesting that the military should ignore what is published in the media about a subject and only focus on private databases?
Seriously do you think Apple is scared of Best Buy? Apple isn't scared of Wal-mart which is larger, has a better IT infrastructure, and can get better deals with the media companies.
Hell, Apple isn't even scared of Apple! (Apple Records that is).
Listening to the radio this morning I heard a long interview with Steve Coll, addressing exactly this question among others. You can hear or read the transcript here. He not only debunks this myth and explains how OBL did manage to equip his army in Afghanistan, he also addresses the so-called "phantom flight" of bin Ladens out of the country in the week after 9/11. Worth your attention if you're interested in actually looking into these questions.
Aftergood posted it on his blog a few days ago; you can compare it if you think Wikileaks changed it for some reason. Much of the document is stuff that was previously published in newspapers anyway. What's your point?
The summary makes it sound like Wikileaks has some kind of mole in the CIA who handed them documents in a shadowy meeting on a grassy knoll... Wikileaks only "obtained" the documents in the sense that "obtained" means "read about in a blog." The documents were first published a couple days ago on Steven Aftergood's excellent newsletter, Secrecy News.
Have you read KSM's statement to the court? Are you saying he was tortured in front of the court? And yes I'd be pissed if my country was invaded, but I probably wouldn't confess to crimes I had nothing to do with in reaction. Do you really believe al Qaeda had nothing to do with 9/11?
I would have been worried if Turkey landed on Bin Laden's side, but they have been working for a long time to be seen as a independent, democratic nation worthy of joining the European Union. It's doubtful that they would have come to Afghanistan's aid, even if other countries did.
That would have been a nightmare scenario, but you're right it wasn't likely. Pakistan is really the only place that was a potential risk for that and even they couldn't take him seriously against a nuclear power.
I think you're right about what's happening now -- al Qaeda in Iraq, for example, is not really any relation to al Qaeda other than a relationship of convenience -- but at the time of 9/11 al Qaeda was already a sort of "umbrella" group of different organizations. Or, more accurately, these were leaders from several jihadist organizations who had broken somewhat with the mainstream of those organizations and decided to join bin Laden's "World Islamic Front." But these weren't people who just saw bin Laden as an archetype... they openly joined forces and signed a statement in 1998. (Though there is some debate over what was actually being called "al Qaeda" at that point).
Sure, if by "liberally" you mean "nonsensically." Bin Laden wasn't even close to being an "ex CIA agent." Chances that he met anyone from CIA in Afghanistan during the jihad against the Soviets are slim to nil. Steve Coll's book does a pretty good job of busting this myth.
No question OBL's gang of jihadists profited off of the CIA's investment in the war against the Soviets, but most of it was indirect. For example, it's true that some of the bases that al Qaeda used were originally built with CIA money. But that's a far cry from saying OBL trained under CIA on those bases.
Of course, arguments over that miss the forest in the trees -- the U.S. was behind bin Laden's rise to power whether or not OBL ever worked for the CIA. The U.S. strongly encouraged Saudi Arabia and other Arab allies to help out in the war in Afghanistan by stirring up Muslims with a call to jihad. The Saudis got clerics to issue fatwas and they underwrote travel and training expenses for jihadists. The way they saw it, it was win-win. Cozy up to the U.S. (we were selling them AWACS and other arms at the time) and get rid of a large group of potential troublemakers at the same time. Other Arab governments followed suit. You don't need shadowy conspiracy theories or phony news stories about OBL being visited in the hospital by CIA agents worried about his kidneys to find evidence for any of this -- it's all a matter of public record.
You can't be serious. No "evidence" has been presented that he knew nothing of 9/11. All that has been presented is the fact that he claimed to have nothing to do with it. A fact that isn't news at all -- he gave an interview to a Pakistani newspaper a month later saying almost exactly the same thing. You say there's no evidence other than "trust us"; you have to be kidding. We have confessions of a host of al Qaeda leaders and operatives including KSM himself. We have OBL's own words urging Muslims to attack Americans "civilian and military" going back to the late 1990s and continuing well into the 2000s. We have OBL's praising of the hijackers and implicit acknowledgement of inspiring the attacks if not having directly caused them in video and audiotaped statements going back almost as far as his denials. And we know that he and Zawahiri were the key figures turning jihadists in general (and the groups that joined "al Qaeda" in particular) from a strategy of attacking their local governments to a strategy of attacking the "far enemy," i.e. the United States. The issue of direct involvement is a red herring -- we won't find OBL's DNA on the WTC, but that doesn't matter. We know with a strong probability of being right exactly who was behind 9/11 (and astute experts on terrorism and Muslim extremism had a good idea of who that was by 9/12).
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Loosing a driver's license is a pretty minor expense in comparison to loosing a passport - and driver's licenses are generally replaced quite quickly here in NY state.
It's true! Loose passports sink ships. Or something like that. So remember to tighten your passports, folks!
Finally, I'll be able to find my car after parking it in a busy lot.
Even the Asus source code should be of more interest as it could be used to improve FLOSS support.
Not legally it couldn't.
This is exactly correct. Centering everything on "cultural homogeneity" is ludicrous when there are so many other characteristics of the societies that play a much more obvious and direct role here. Particularly when you look at the history of truly culturally homogenous cultures over time.
If the imaged object does turn out to be a planet â" and it's not certain it is â" then theories of planet formation may have to be adjusted.
Whereas if this thing that is bigger than 8 Jupiters turns out to be something other than a planet, we may have some other theories to adjust. But I, for one, welcome our giant space traveling overlords!
I started posting on Slashdot many years ago when I was a teenager, as revealed by my handle.
You started posting on slashdot in 1977? Impressive!
That could work if it has no wireless and less space than a nomad...
I think their word of the past year was "w00t!"
Except OBL never worked for the US even as an "independent contractor" (e.g. mercenary). OBL isn't and never was a merc. He led an army of jihadists against the Soviets in Afghanistan and spun some good stories about how he singlehandedly won the war. But he never worked for the Americans, not even on a contract basis. The record is pretty clear on this based on extensive research by (among others) journalists Steve Coll and Peter Bergen.
The fact is his army was mostly militarily insignificant to the war and certainly wasn't worth the time of the US to get involved with -- we were busy funding and training the Afghani guerrillas who far outnumbered the "Arab Afghans" and played far more decisive a role. (And who, not incidentally, lived there and weren't planning on leaving, unlike OBL's jihadists). bin Laden was never a CIA agent, asset, associate, or mercenary.
Nonsense. The "Tim Osman" stuff is garbage someone made up and plastered all over the internet shortly after 9/11. It was based on the rantings and scribblings of some mental patient with a tangential connection to an intel agency if I remember correctly, and I probably don't. But it's complete bullshit that "The CIA openly acknowledge that OBL was an asset and was in fact trained by the CIA." They acknowledge no such thing and they even had a blurby disclaimer on their web page for a while explicitly stating that bin Laden never worked for CIA. as for training mujahideen, it depends whom you mean. The CIA did help train Afghani fighters (through the ISI who did most of the dirty work). The CIA did not train bin Ladin or his rag tag band of jihadists, and had very little contact with them if any.
It would be incompetent for them NOT to use the public domain resources available. The military is not and should not be in the business of "scooping" the media. Are you seriously suggesting that the military should ignore what is published in the media about a subject and only focus on private databases?
It's actually called "Buy Once, Pay Anywhere" ... they want to make sure that you have to pay for your content no matter where you watch it.
Well, give them a chance, maybe they'll start giving out free music again
Sure, that's exactly what I would expect Best Buy to start doing.
Seriously do you think Apple is scared of Best Buy? Apple isn't scared of Wal-mart which is larger, has a better IT infrastructure, and can get better deals with the media companies.
Hell, Apple isn't even scared of Apple! (Apple Records that is).
Listening to the radio this morning I heard a long interview with Steve Coll, addressing exactly this question among others. You can hear or read the transcript here. He not only debunks this myth and explains how OBL did manage to equip his army in Afghanistan, he also addresses the so-called "phantom flight" of bin Ladens out of the country in the week after 9/11. Worth your attention if you're interested in actually looking into these questions.
The brain scan works by displaying four videos of brain waves all running at the same time. They couldn't do this with Windows.
So let me get this straight -- your evidence that the CIA trained OBL is that they are a secret organization?
Aftergood posted it on his blog a few days ago; you can compare it if you think Wikileaks changed it for some reason. Much of the document is stuff that was previously published in newspapers anyway. What's your point?
The summary makes it sound like Wikileaks has some kind of mole in the CIA who handed them documents in a shadowy meeting on a grassy knoll... Wikileaks only "obtained" the documents in the sense that "obtained" means "read about in a blog." The documents were first published a couple days ago on Steven Aftergood's excellent newsletter, Secrecy News.
Have you read KSM's statement to the court? Are you saying he was tortured in front of the court? And yes I'd be pissed if my country was invaded, but I probably wouldn't confess to crimes I had nothing to do with in reaction. Do you really believe al Qaeda had nothing to do with 9/11?
I would have been worried if Turkey landed on Bin Laden's side, but they have been working for a long time to be seen as a independent, democratic nation worthy of joining the European Union. It's doubtful that they would have come to Afghanistan's aid, even if other countries did.
That would have been a nightmare scenario, but you're right it wasn't likely. Pakistan is really the only place that was a potential risk for that and even they couldn't take him seriously against a nuclear power.
I think you're right about what's happening now -- al Qaeda in Iraq, for example, is not really any relation to al Qaeda other than a relationship of convenience -- but at the time of 9/11 al Qaeda was already a sort of "umbrella" group of different organizations. Or, more accurately, these were leaders from several jihadist organizations who had broken somewhat with the mainstream of those organizations and decided to join bin Laden's "World Islamic Front." But these weren't people who just saw bin Laden as an archetype ... they openly joined forces and signed a statement in 1998. (Though there is some debate over what was actually being called "al Qaeda" at that point).
Sure, if by "liberally" you mean "nonsensically." Bin Laden wasn't even close to being an "ex CIA agent." Chances that he met anyone from CIA in Afghanistan during the jihad against the Soviets are slim to nil. Steve Coll's book does a pretty good job of busting this myth.
No question OBL's gang of jihadists profited off of the CIA's investment in the war against the Soviets, but most of it was indirect. For example, it's true that some of the bases that al Qaeda used were originally built with CIA money. But that's a far cry from saying OBL trained under CIA on those bases.
Of course, arguments over that miss the forest in the trees -- the U.S. was behind bin Laden's rise to power whether or not OBL ever worked for the CIA. The U.S. strongly encouraged Saudi Arabia and other Arab allies to help out in the war in Afghanistan by stirring up Muslims with a call to jihad. The Saudis got clerics to issue fatwas and they underwrote travel and training expenses for jihadists. The way they saw it, it was win-win. Cozy up to the U.S. (we were selling them AWACS and other arms at the time) and get rid of a large group of potential troublemakers at the same time. Other Arab governments followed suit. You don't need shadowy conspiracy theories or phony news stories about OBL being visited in the hospital by CIA agents worried about his kidneys to find evidence for any of this -- it's all a matter of public record.
Osama wasn't behind 9/11. Saddam Hussein was! I know because Mister Cheney told me.
You can't be serious. No "evidence" has been presented that he knew nothing of 9/11. All that has been presented is the fact that he claimed to have nothing to do with it. A fact that isn't news at all -- he gave an interview to a Pakistani newspaper a month later saying almost exactly the same thing. You say there's no evidence other than "trust us"; you have to be kidding. We have confessions of a host of al Qaeda leaders and operatives including KSM himself. We have OBL's own words urging Muslims to attack Americans "civilian and military" going back to the late 1990s and continuing well into the 2000s. We have OBL's praising of the hijackers and implicit acknowledgement of inspiring the attacks if not having directly caused them in video and audiotaped statements going back almost as far as his denials. And we know that he and Zawahiri were the key figures turning jihadists in general (and the groups that joined "al Qaeda" in particular) from a strategy of attacking their local governments to a strategy of attacking the "far enemy," i.e. the United States. The issue of direct involvement is a red herring -- we won't find OBL's DNA on the WTC, but that doesn't matter. We know with a strong probability of being right exactly who was behind 9/11 (and astute experts on terrorism and Muslim extremism had a good idea of who that was by 9/12).