Active State's Perl for Win32 is the only thing that has made it possible at all. It's gotten easier as time has gone by, not so much because Microsoft has given us better tools (although they have) but because the various modules that allow Perl to interact with the Windows APIs have gotten better.
Who do you think invested in Active State to get Perl on Windows (and.NET)? Microsoft.
Although I don't have an opinion regarding the morality of attempting to create (really mutate) an organism, I strongly disagree with your apthetic attitude towards morality and science. If research was just simple observation, then I'd agree with you entirely. Even if knowledge can be used for evil, we should still seek it. However, research also requires experiments. These experiments can have very adverse affects on our environment, peoples lives, or other species lives. With math, as you mentioned, this is not an issue because running forumla's my Ti86 is not affecting anybody.
I hate it when people say this. Please, go pick up a book on the CLR by a "CS academic type" who hasn't worked for MS or Sun. The book I chose was "Compiling for the.NET CLR" (or something close to that). I learned a lot about the CLR, and because the author has a lot of experience with abstract stack machines (the JVM being one of them), he compared the CLR to many of them. Although there are similarities, and although the CLR was a reaction to the JVM, there really are some fundamental differences.
I love Opera. I'm testing Opera 7 B1. It's very promising. It's small, fast, and IMHO better then Mozilla. However, although it's features beat out IE, it's rendering doesn't. I'm hoping the final release of Opera7 can allow me to use it full time, but it's just not there yet.
As a full time Windows developer, I would hate working in Windows if EVERYTHING wasn't easily scriptable. I'll agree that the original nonsense with the registry and VBScript/COM based WSH was a mess, but almost everything has gone XML and by WIndows.NET server everything will be XML configurable. For example, IIS6 is configured like Apache's httpd.conf (but true XML) and there's just a GUI on top for those who want to waste their time or setup a personal web site really quick. Actually, I know people who work internally at MS and they use Perl all the time for automation scripts. I'm not saying that Windows's scripting better, Unix scripting is still a bit more 'natural' IMHO. The problem with Windows is more that the sysadmins generally don't know how to code.
Hey - I contribute code to newsgroups, public articles, etc. But it's one thing to release a small and useful OSS utility, it's another to participate in a huge project (like an OS or Office App) and essentially INCREASE THE PROFITS OF CORPORATIONS for free. I still don't get it. ALso, name another profession that has a group of essentially "hippies" doing the same thing.
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True AI would be a real thinking
True AI is would be nothing, because the entire concept of Artificial Intelligence is an oxymoron. We call systems AI (aerospace anti-collision systems, "smart bombs", and Rainbow Six's "Tagno's"), but in reality these systems - even though they "learn" - are still complex calculators.
Since when did people work for large corporations and governments for free? So no, Linux isn't pro-socialism, but whatever it is I still don't get it.
* I'm obviously not refering to the dev's that get paid at IBM to work on Linux. That's business. I'm talking about the vast majority of OSS developers who do not code OSS professionally.
A 9 - 15 year old is a poor example as they are at the optimal age to learn something that is not necessarily easy to use. Hell, I used MiniLinux when I was 12 and configured PPP (ya, it was a bit of a task at the time), wrote lame iRC scripts, etc. At the same time, my parent's just DIDN'T GET IT, so I progammed some nice menu's for them. Still, it wasn't good enough, so they bought a Mac.
Well, once you start programming outside of the classroom you'll appreciate.NET's elegance. Although I'm a relatively new programmer (6+ years of professional experience), I've worked with many 10+ year developers (BSC, MSC, and those with just an HS degree) and although not all of them love Microsoft, they will definitely agree that.NET is a huge step in the right direction for Windows based software and Web Applications.
my sound card, zip drive, webcam, nic card, video card, and joystick all work in linux.
See, this is the problem with CompSci. You really need to get another major, and do CompSci later - it's too narrow focused of a degree, and most of the stuff you can learn on your own (still a good degree to get though). There's this little science called statistics, and it requires a sample size. So who cares if your sound card works in linux? That doesn't mean that everyone else's will.
"It's not really just a "few of you", it's about 95% who only surf a couple hours a day. "
First of all it's incredibly obvious that you fabricated this magic 95% number of yours. If this was true, 56K would be good enough. I don't mind surfing at 56K, and at 128K (ISDN) I can't tell the difference with "broadband". Even IF you are correct with your BS numbers, the point is that broadband is "designed and marketed" towards "power users", not casual users.
Don't get me wrong, I have no problem paying for bandwidth. At $50/month I don't expect to get a full 1.5mb downstream 24/7 - I understand that I have to share it. I DON'T run a P2P server. My problem is a rigid cap that only allows for simple WWW browsering and maybe the downloading of one movie preview per month. If the caps are set high enough (with reasonable shaping rules afterwords) so that I can play Quake an hour a day, watch the latest movie previews, surf the net, and download 1MB of SPAM and advertisements every hour, then it's all good.
Finally, a relatively old (Jan 2002) BT Technoloy Journal reports that 54% of broadband users regularly download music (high bandwidth), and that, 24% regularly stream radio, and 20% stream video. It also mentioned that 76% of users intended to use video conferancing and claiming that ease of use is currently what's holding them back. These are all legit activities that broadband users promote in their commercials, then limit you once you subscribe. If the cost of this type of broadband usage is real, then I'm willing to pay for it or have REASONABLE bandwidth limitations (I thought we already had that with existing speed caps). The attitude that "anyone but the casual surfer is hogging the connection and should be punished" is rediculous. I say, the broadband users pay broadband prices (if $50/month is not enough then raise it a buck or two - if it's justified), and that casual surfers pay lesser prices (dialup).
Well, since Linux was designed as a server, and not as a consumer desktop, it's not surprising that such problems come up. How many people do I have to play WC3 with online who's game crashes because they're playing on Linux? Do I blame Blizzard? No, I blame people for trying to use something that was not designed for a certain purpose.
It's not just you. Many Open Source developers (not all) believe that everything should be free, and will steal in order to make that happen. Well, if that's their philosophy, they should go move to Old Russia.
Well, I hate to tell you, but not everyone uses the Internet just to "surf". We use it for streaming content, file downloads, etc. - you know, the whole reason why Broadband was needed anyway? I love how broadband commercials market how you can play games (I probably eat up 1GB a month just on Quake), stream multimedia, and download files at "blazingly fast speeds"... as long as you don't use it much.
The bottom line is, unless the cap is very large (to the tune of 10 or more GB), it will inhibit the growth of the Internet. Although I find it ethically wrong, users will invest in software to block every type of advertisement because they really will have to pay for it. This will put a larger strain on already struggling sites. Sure, a few of you only "surf" a couple hours a day, but if that's all I can do, sell me a "WWW" connection, not an Internet connection.
Yes, but 12GB is a lot more reasonable then 5GB, AND you mention the fact that a lot of content is available locally, and is unmetered. I agree that reasonable data caps aren't the end of the world, and niether is bandwidth shaping, but it should only effect the extreme bandwidth users, not all the users who are barely average.
I'm sorry, but this is hogwash. Our brains are not amazing because of their computational power, but because of human intuition. The entire concept that we can match up a machine's computation to the brain's is trivializing how the brain functions. I was able to catch a football before I even studied mathematics, let alone arithmetic. There is no calculus problem being solved.
As already posted, "Since Novemember"? At best that's 19 days. At worst it's today. Either way, when you care about testing (vendors don't release untested patches) you need a least a couple of weeks of time AFTER you've already coded a fix.
The Nvidia drivers have crashed my machine 3 times in the last 6 months.
You mean the non-certified drivers that Firingsquad links to? I do question why NVidia even makes them publically available, but even then they do mention that niether performance nor stability is guarunteed.
If you've studied the history of consumer microprocessers over the last 10 years you'd see that heat issues have always been the issue, and that they are not tied to poor design. Also, from the looks of it the NV30 uses _LESS_ power, but the problem is because it's smaller the internal heat spread is much higher.
Everytime I speak out against genetically altered foods the majority of the "scientific" community pass me off as a layman who's afraid of scientific advancement.
The bottom line is, there's some things in nature that we shouldn't mess with, because the potential consequences can be huge. We just can't know for sure how something may negatively affect us, and this story is a very small and isolated example of how things can go awry (and may have without us knowing). Decades of additional research and observation need to be completed before we can truely appreciate the complexity of the nature that we are altering.
When I built my first computer, I dual booted DOS and Linux. My first PPP connection to the Internet was with Linux (of course, I dialed up to shell accounts before that). This being said, it's worth noting that at the time there was no good desktop alternative (Win2.x and 3.x was crap) for the x86 platform.
As times changed Microsoft caught up and won. I think WinXP Home is a great home platform for x86, or Mac OS 10.2 if you have money to get a new machine.
Try calling up Sun and getting an enterprise server without SunOS on it. Try calling Apple and getting a PowerPC without OS X or OS 9 on it. Try calling IBM and getting an r/6000 server WITH windows on it. The bottom line is, just as Apple owns the PowerPC architecture, Microsoft owns the x86 architecture in a way. My Dad bought an iMac. He had the choice to A) use different [aka More Elegant] hardware and B) use a different OS.
Microsoft's playthings like XBox and WinCE will never be profitable.
How does such rubbish get a +5? NONE of us know whether or not they will be profitable, and people who actually study business (or who at least have a basic understanding of business, unlike many here at/.) predict that many of Microsofts ventures will be profitable.
Microsoft's problem is that without happy shareholders, all their tax-stock-option loopholes don't work anymore.
NEWSFLASH - Companies rely on happy shareholders. Please, got back to school.
Just like Unix took over the proprietary OSs
Hahahaha... that was a good one! You kid's sure have a good sense of humour (or just a bad education of history)!
Active State's Perl for Win32 is the only thing that has made it possible at all. It's gotten easier as time has gone by, not so much because Microsoft has given us better tools (although they have) but because the various modules that allow Perl to interact with the Windows APIs have gotten better.
.NET)? Microsoft.
Who do you think invested in Active State to get Perl on Windows (and
Although I don't have an opinion regarding the morality of attempting to create (really mutate) an organism, I strongly disagree with your apthetic attitude towards morality and science. If research was just simple observation, then I'd agree with you entirely. Even if knowledge can be used for evil, we should still seek it. However, research also requires experiments. These experiments can have very adverse affects on our environment, peoples lives, or other species lives. With math, as you mentioned, this is not an issue because running forumla's my Ti86 is not affecting anybody.
.NET common language runtime (read: M$ JVM)
.NET CLR" (or something close to that). I learned a lot about the CLR, and because the author has a lot of experience with abstract stack machines (the JVM being one of them), he compared the CLR to many of them. Although there are similarities, and although the CLR was a reaction to the JVM, there really are some fundamental differences.
I hate it when people say this. Please, go pick up a book on the CLR by a "CS academic type" who hasn't worked for MS or Sun. The book I chose was "Compiling for the
I love Opera. I'm testing Opera 7 B1. It's very promising. It's small, fast, and IMHO better then Mozilla. However, although it's features beat out IE, it's rendering doesn't. I'm hoping the final release of Opera7 can allow me to use it full time, but it's just not there yet.
This is also not very encouraging for MS' auto-update feature in XP
I understand your point, except that in this case XP is not affected by the vulnerability so this isn't an issue.
As a full time Windows developer, I would hate working in Windows if EVERYTHING wasn't easily scriptable. I'll agree that the original nonsense with the registry and VBScript/COM based WSH was a mess, but almost everything has gone XML and by WIndows.NET server everything will be XML configurable. For example, IIS6 is configured like Apache's httpd.conf (but true XML) and there's just a GUI on top for those who want to waste their time or setup a personal web site really quick. Actually, I know people who work internally at MS and they use Perl all the time for automation scripts. I'm not saying that Windows's scripting better, Unix scripting is still a bit more 'natural' IMHO. The problem with Windows is more that the sysadmins generally don't know how to code.
Hey - I contribute code to newsgroups, public articles, etc. But it's one thing to release a small and useful OSS utility, it's another to participate in a huge project (like an OS or Office App) and essentially INCREASE THE PROFITS OF CORPORATIONS for free. I still don't get it. ALso, name another profession that has a group of essentially "hippies" doing the same thing.
True AI would be a real thinking
True AI is would be nothing, because the entire concept of Artificial Intelligence is an oxymoron. We call systems AI (aerospace anti-collision systems, "smart bombs", and Rainbow Six's "Tagno's"), but in reality these systems - even though they "learn" - are still complex calculators.
Since when did people work for large corporations and governments for free? So no, Linux isn't pro-socialism, but whatever it is I still don't get it.
* I'm obviously not refering to the dev's that get paid at IBM to work on Linux. That's business. I'm talking about the vast majority of OSS developers who do not code OSS professionally.
A 9 - 15 year old is a poor example as they are at the optimal age to learn something that is not necessarily easy to use. Hell, I used MiniLinux when I was 12 and configured PPP (ya, it was a bit of a task at the time), wrote lame iRC scripts, etc. At the same time, my parent's just DIDN'T GET IT, so I progammed some nice menu's for them. Still, it wasn't good enough, so they bought a Mac.
hello...in .NET they DEPRICATED IOSTREAM.H!!!
.NET's elegance. Although I'm a relatively new programmer (6+ years of professional experience), I've worked with many 10+ year developers (BSC, MSC, and those with just an HS degree) and although not all of them love Microsoft, they will definitely agree that .NET is a huge step in the right direction for Windows based software and Web Applications.
Well, once you start programming outside of the classroom you'll appreciate
my sound card, zip drive, webcam, nic card, video card, and joystick all work in linux.
See, this is the problem with CompSci. You really need to get another major, and do CompSci later - it's too narrow focused of a degree, and most of the stuff you can learn on your own (still a good degree to get though). There's this little science called statistics, and it requires a sample size. So who cares if your sound card works in linux? That doesn't mean that everyone else's will.
"It's not really just a "few of you", it's about 95% who only surf a couple hours a day. "
First of all it's incredibly obvious that you fabricated this magic 95% number of yours. If this was true, 56K would be good enough. I don't mind surfing at 56K, and at 128K (ISDN) I can't tell the difference with "broadband". Even IF you are correct with your BS numbers, the point is that broadband is "designed and marketed" towards "power users", not casual users.
Don't get me wrong, I have no problem paying for bandwidth. At $50/month I don't expect to get a full 1.5mb downstream 24/7 - I understand that I have to share it. I DON'T run a P2P server. My problem is a rigid cap that only allows for simple WWW browsering and maybe the downloading of one movie preview per month. If the caps are set high enough (with reasonable shaping rules afterwords) so that I can play Quake an hour a day, watch the latest movie previews, surf the net, and download 1MB of SPAM and advertisements every hour, then it's all good.
Finally, a relatively old (Jan 2002) BT Technoloy Journal reports that 54% of broadband users regularly download music (high bandwidth), and that, 24% regularly stream radio, and 20% stream video. It also mentioned that 76% of users intended to use video conferancing and claiming that ease of use is currently what's holding them back. These are all legit activities that broadband users promote in their commercials, then limit you once you subscribe. If the cost of this type of broadband usage is real, then I'm willing to pay for it or have REASONABLE bandwidth limitations (I thought we already had that with existing speed caps). The attitude that "anyone but the casual surfer is hogging the connection and should be punished" is rediculous. I say, the broadband users pay broadband prices (if $50/month is not enough then raise it a buck or two - if it's justified), and that casual surfers pay lesser prices (dialup).
Well, since Linux was designed as a server, and not as a consumer desktop, it's not surprising that such problems come up. How many people do I have to play WC3 with online who's game crashes because they're playing on Linux? Do I blame Blizzard? No, I blame people for trying to use something that was not designed for a certain purpose.
It's not just you. Many Open Source developers (not all) believe that everything should be free, and will steal in order to make that happen. Well, if that's their philosophy, they should go move to Old Russia.
Well, I hate to tell you, but not everyone uses the Internet just to "surf". We use it for streaming content, file downloads, etc. - you know, the whole reason why Broadband was needed anyway? I love how broadband commercials market how you can play games (I probably eat up 1GB a month just on Quake), stream multimedia, and download files at "blazingly fast speeds"... as long as you don't use it much.
The bottom line is, unless the cap is very large (to the tune of 10 or more GB), it will inhibit the growth of the Internet. Although I find it ethically wrong, users will invest in software to block every type of advertisement because they really will have to pay for it. This will put a larger strain on already struggling sites. Sure, a few of you only "surf" a couple hours a day, but if that's all I can do, sell me a "WWW" connection, not an Internet connection.
Yes, but 12GB is a lot more reasonable then 5GB, AND you mention the fact that a lot of content is available locally, and is unmetered. I agree that reasonable data caps aren't the end of the world, and niether is bandwidth shaping, but it should only effect the extreme bandwidth users, not all the users who are barely average.
I'm sorry, but this is hogwash. Our brains are not amazing because of their computational power, but because of human intuition. The entire concept that we can match up a machine's computation to the brain's is trivializing how the brain functions. I was able to catch a football before I even studied mathematics, let alone arithmetic. There is no calculus problem being solved.
As already posted, "Since Novemember"? At best that's 19 days. At worst it's today. Either way, when you care about testing (vendors don't release untested patches) you need a least a couple of weeks of time AFTER you've already coded a fix.
The Nvidia drivers have crashed my machine 3 times in the last 6 months.
You mean the non-certified drivers that Firingsquad links to? I do question why NVidia even makes them publically available, but even then they do mention that niether performance nor stability is guarunteed.
If you've studied the history of consumer microprocessers over the last 10 years you'd see that heat issues have always been the issue, and that they are not tied to poor design. Also, from the looks of it the NV30 uses _LESS_ power, but the problem is because it's smaller the internal heat spread is much higher.
Everytime I speak out against genetically altered foods the majority of the "scientific" community pass me off as a layman who's afraid of scientific advancement.
The bottom line is, there's some things in nature that we shouldn't mess with, because the potential consequences can be huge. We just can't know for sure how something may negatively affect us, and this story is a very small and isolated example of how things can go awry (and may have without us knowing). Decades of additional research and observation need to be completed before we can truely appreciate the complexity of the nature that we are altering.
When I built my first computer, I dual booted DOS and Linux. My first PPP connection to the Internet was with Linux (of course, I dialed up to shell accounts before that). This being said, it's worth noting that at the time there was no good desktop alternative (Win2.x and 3.x was crap) for the x86 platform.
As times changed Microsoft caught up and won. I think WinXP Home is a great home platform for x86, or Mac OS 10.2 if you have money to get a new machine.
Try calling up Sun and getting an enterprise server without SunOS on it. Try calling Apple and getting a PowerPC without OS X or OS 9 on it. Try calling IBM and getting an r/6000 server WITH windows on it. The bottom line is, just as Apple owns the PowerPC architecture, Microsoft owns the x86 architecture in a way. My Dad bought an iMac. He had the choice to A) use different [aka More Elegant] hardware and B) use a different OS.
Microsoft's playthings like XBox and WinCE will never be profitable.
/.) predict that many of Microsofts ventures will be profitable.
How does such rubbish get a +5? NONE of us know whether or not they will be profitable, and people who actually study business (or who at least have a basic understanding of business, unlike many here at
Microsoft's problem is that without happy shareholders, all their tax-stock-option loopholes don't work anymore.
NEWSFLASH - Companies rely on happy shareholders. Please, got back to school.