when was the last time the catholic church officially killed people over ursury? did you see the part i wrote about reformation? yes the catholic church at one time was a dictatorship and to this day the holy see is a dictatorship in the vatican city. That is a political system and not a religion and it was a source of tension un italy for a very long time. At one point the pope was king over the holy roman empire (these issues led to the creation of the vatican). Even then no one pretended papal infallibility applied to the pope ruling over parts of europe. It wasnt religion then and it is not today. Similarly, Islam as it is today is not a religion it is a political system.
Does the catholic church today impose that belief on everyone? Do not try to justify what islam does today by comparing it to the past of other religions. This is the 21st century not the 15th that stuff does not fly anymore.
Salman Rushide has a price on his head for writing a book ( a fucking book). Do other religions do that? The artists behind the danish political cartoons have a price on their head. Theo van gough was killed for making a movie critical of islam.
Please tell me how many other religions still establish theocratic states like saudi arabia, taliban afganistan, iran and soon to be iraq. how many other religions put a price on people's heads for exercising basic human rights?
I was hoping you would look up details on this guy, but here it is for you all laid out. note CAIR. What kind of group is CAIR? well they were bad enough that barbra boxer (who is hardly a supporter of the war) decided to return an award from them recently http://www.jihadwatch.org/archives/014984.php
note the suspected terrorist ties part. this guy is a member of that group. I dont know if you are black or muslim, but he is also close to nation of islam and according to them everyone is not human. Louis Farrakhan has stated that "White people are potential humans...they haven't evolved yet." (Philadelphia Inquirer, 3/18/00).
I like this one from malcom X in playboy though. BTW im not american or white. I'm an asian buddhist, i wonder, are you black? muslim? i hope they spare you. I hope you arent jewish. First they came for the jews..
"PLAYBOY: If Muslims ultimately gain control as you predict, what do you plan to do with white people?
MALCOLM X: It's not a case of what would we do, it's a case of what would God do with whites. What does a judge do with the guilty? Either the guilty one repents and atones, or God executes judgment.
Ellison attended the University of Minnesota, along with future CAIR heads Nihad Awad and Ibrahim Hooper, just prior to Awad and Hooper taking leadership positions with the Minnesota-based Bosnian Relief Committee. While at the university, Ellison became involved with the Nation of Islam (NOI), the organization led by notorious anti-Semite Louis Farrakhan. He kept this involvement in NOI for a period of ten years, participating in rallies, including the Million Man March hate fest; defending hate speech; and using such aliases as Keith Hakim, Keith X Ellison and Keith Ellison-Muhammad. (Scott Johnson, Power Line, 'KEITH ELLISON FOR DUMMIES,' September 30, 2006)
Amidst Ellison's run for Minnesota's 5th District Congressional seat, in 2006, he accepted tens of thousands of dollars in campaign contributions raised during CAIR-sponsored events, including secret CAIR fundraisers held out of state in Florida. As well, he accepted thousands of dollars in contributions from CAIR leaders themselves, including contributions from CAIR's Executive Director Nihad Awad (Nehad Hammad) and CAIR's Chairman Parvez Ahmed. (Federal Election Commission, 'Individuals Who Gave To: ELLISON, KEITH MAURICE,' November 2006 Congressional election) "
Obama is the 2008 howard dean. His scream moment will come. I suspect it will be his ties to radicals.
FYI the folks "we" (by this i mean the non muslim world) are fighting is islam. islam is not a religion it is a manifestation of fascism. There is no moderate islam since there has been no reformation movement. Religions do not dictate interest rates on loans or have detiled political systems (the caliphate). The iraq war is incredibly succesful in one regard and that is sunnis and shites hate each other even more. The kind of killing they are engaged in generates extreme hatred that lingers in a population's social memory. They are so blood thirsty that presented with the opportunity they slaughter each other. Everyone fighter they kill among themselves is one less person who will come to kill me. Its like the japanese fighting the germans for us in WWII.
thats what i have been saying since the beginning a fringe of the democratic party are the islamic radicals we are at war with. I'm glad we finally agree.
I suspec barak hussein obama is the same as a (self proclaimed ) former muslim who hides his middle name, i suspect he will say anything to appeal to the base which elects him in the primary.
read the link with the new nation of islam congressman elected from Michigan. At least part of the democratic party are islamic radicals.
anti war groups like moveon.org, dialykos and code pink oppose "the war" all of it. i have never seen end the war in iraq it is always end the war in iraq and afganistan.
how would you explain the extremist congressman? does this idea extend to afganistan as well? the anti war groups which have clout in the democratic party want the US out both countries.
where have I mentioned hamas or hezbollah? dont mix up your terrorist groups i am only talking about al-queda and their wabbisht sunni beliefs. I do not see them doing any charitable work and in fact they are in iraq blowing up infrastructure and historical landmarks.
it was saddam had links to terrorism (which i have shown) and WMD.
saddam had links to al-queda too the us was following a guy named Abu_Musab_al-Zarqawi since 2002 from afganistan to iraq where he was being treated for injuries from fighting the americans in afganistan. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Abu_Musab_al-Zarqawi
can you show me how the WMD has been proven false. If you read the UN report saddam had WMD and it is not all accounted for. What was proven false is that he made more after clinton pulled out inspectors during the bombing (operation desert fox) during his impeachment.
dont believe the american media, the news is filtered.
While i am at it you should read this to understand why the war happened. Its from 2003 before the war and negates any argument that saddam was secular or not an open supporter of terrorism. This is the BBC which has an anti-war slant.
if you dont want to click the link, the gist is this is an official iraqi PR release. With the following rates:
Saddam's payments $10,000 per family $25,000 for family of a suicide bomber $35m paid since September 2000
Also, can you provide any links to iraq and afgan war profiteering that has not been officially and publicly investigated? from credible news sources not conspiracy theory blogs.
FYI there were investigations after WWI and WWII about profiteering as well google "robber baron" or just watch any movie from that time period. When there is a lot of money involved you are guaranteed to have crooks trying to take it.
The link you provided starts with "Al-Qaeda's second-in-command Ayman al-Zawahiri said a US congressional bill calling for a troop withdrawal from Iraq was proof of Washington's defeat, according to a web video posted on Saturday." that is hardly support for bush's policies. I doubt al-qeda would oppose their own victory. I also do not think al-qeda is an iraqi nationalist group since they consist mostly of foreign whabbist fighters and that has been a source of tension with actual nationalists. al-zawarhi that is in the article you linked to is Egyptian. Al-qeda is a sunni arab group. iraq is a majority shia arab and sunni kurd country.
I oppose islamic radicals and i see there is a disturbing link between democrats and them.
First islamic congressman was elected a democrat in 06. This guy is a former nation of islam member (they think non-blacks and non-muslims are "potential humans" that is a malcom X quote google it ) http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/americas/6127234.stm
If this were WWII and the nazis and japanese were praising one parties policies over anothers like this, people would have reacted differently. These days it seems people cant see the obvious.
Can you show me anything where terrorists groups oppose democratic policy on the war? in the link you provided they are basically saying you have admitted defeat and now we want to kill more of you. Im sure if they cant kill more infidels in iraq they will move to another country and resume there.
french opposed the war becasue the oil for food money was going through a french bank and many officials in the government were on saddam's payroll. how was that right?
actually, terrorists did celebrate the democratic victory in 06 and they are also supportive of the democrats withdrawl from iraq and afganistan since that would be a defacto win for them. So yes, that is actually true in this case.
what the fuck are you doing? are you new here? this is slashdot. half the shit that is posted either does not make sense or is a dupe of something that does not make sense.
Without linking it to webcomics and making it a vehicle to mock the war, there is no way this would be posted. The funny part is the guy is a gun owner and got in trouble for talking about it. That is hardly a position the current administration and the NRA would support.
Basically this guy got fired for exercising his rights under the second amendment and then the first amendment,
she didnt just misrepresnet her degrees, she had none. She claimed that she went to various schools and had a phd when in reality the most college she had was some part time work and never completed anything other than high school. And the irony of this was this is the person in charge os admissions and very vocal nationally about how high school students should worry less about their resume. She got away with this in the public eye for 28 years and became the dean of admissions at a place like MIT. now that is impressive.
its called denial. I was modded down for the same reason the link is not in the summary. While the post is undeniable true and relevant to the article there are people who want to pretend it werent true.
Man I hate those republican neo-cons. Just look at what that right wing blow hard Rush has to say
read it if you can. this is something that will make so many on slashdot's blood boil. how dare he. Heck i can understand why the submitter to slashdot would submit every other article from kotaku but this one. Stuff like this should not see the light of day. The ideas he presents is so outrageous and ignorant.
Compare this to the response of a progressive like Ny Gov Eliot Spitzer . This my friends is why i support progressives. Hillary 08!
CALLER: What I really think is an issue is video violence, video gaming. I will guarantee you, I'll bet my last dollar in my pocket, that this shooter will be found to have been a compulsive video gamer, and when people are living that kind of lifestyle -- and college students do this a lot.
RUSH: (sigh) Let's say you're right. Not every video gamer goes out and murders 33 people on the college campus though. There's more to this than that. We can find all kinds of societal problems and ills, but the fact of the matter is that whatever you would look at as a bad influence -- video games as you mentioned -- it may desensitize people, but it doesn't turn everybody into mass murderers.
I know it's natural that everybody wants to throw their theories into this, and perhaps come up with perhaps a unique explanation or to understand, and I think it's natural, because people have a tough time accepting a relatively simple explanation for something of this scale. But how many people are playing video games out there? How many millions of people play video games, and how many millions of people have guns?
If you start blaming the video games, you may as well demand video game control because it's the same thing when you start trying to blame guns for this. You have here a sick individual, an evil individual who committed a random act. But if you want to start blaming the video games, this guy was this or that, weeeeell, then you've gotta maybe talk about banning them because that's the same tack that's taken with guns. You got one guy who used a gun that's it. You're falling prey to the same way the Drive-Bys propagandize, and that's, "Well, we need gun control! We gotta get guns out of the hands of people."
does it play legal content though? also do you really think people want to write perl scripts on their ipod? Seriously, i know this is slashdot and all, but you've just taken what is right now the best UI and replaced it with a perl script because you think GUIs are bloated.. good god.
archos does not have the slick UI and the easy sync. It also does not have a legal content source. Where are you going to get movies from? Not everyone has the time to rip and reencode a DVD.
maybe because for many people tiger is just fine and even though leopard will add great features, it wont be like the transition from shit ui phone to iphone
i'm probably being trolled, but if you seriously dont know what slaughterhouse 5 was about go back, read it and then look at the context og when it was written. Google it or something. You havent even read it if you cant figure out what the message was.
As for saying good riddance, you dont know what karma is do you? It has nothing to do with your score on slashdot. I shed no tears at the death of demon. He's bound to his sins.
You are a sad example of a stereotypical slashdot poster. You should really change your ways. Stop pretending you know what you are talking about and read a few books (including slaughterhouse 5, which you have not read at all). You will never learn anything if you act like you know it all beforehand. If you dont like what i tell you because of the messenger, remember even Ram valued the wisdom of Ravan. (dont know what that means? if you're supposedly the expert at asian religions you should)
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when was the last time the catholic church officially killed people over ursury? did you see the part i wrote about reformation? yes the catholic church at one time was a dictatorship and to this day the holy see is a dictatorship in the vatican city. That is a political system and not a religion and it was a source of tension un italy for a very long time. At one point the pope was king over the holy roman empire (these issues led to the creation of the vatican). Even then no one pretended papal infallibility applied to the pope ruling over parts of europe. It wasnt religion then and it is not today. Similarly, Islam as it is today is not a religion it is a political system.
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Does the catholic church today impose that belief on everyone? Do not try to justify what islam does today by comparing it to the past of other religions. This is the 21st century not the 15th that stuff does not fly anymore.
Salman Rushide has a price on his head for writing a book ( a fucking book). Do other religions do that? The artists behind the danish political cartoons have a price on their head. Theo van gough was killed for making a movie critical of islam.
Please tell me how many other religions still establish theocratic states like saudi arabia, taliban afganistan, iran and soon to be iraq. how many other religions put a price on people's heads for exercising basic human rights?
BTW it think barak obama might have had his scream moment today (lets hope one of many)
http://www.breitbart.com/article.php?id=D8P0JNR82
I'm not going to end this with and insult It does not contribute to anything.
I was hoping you would look up details on this guy, but here it is for you all laid out. note CAIR. What kind of group is CAIR? well they were bad enough that barbra boxer (who is hardly a supporter of the war) decided to return an award from them recently http://www.jihadwatch.org/archives/014984.php
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note the suspected terrorist ties part. this guy is a member of that group. I dont know if you are black or muslim, but he is also close to nation of islam and according to them everyone is not human. Louis Farrakhan has stated that "White people are potential humans...they haven't evolved yet." (Philadelphia Inquirer, 3/18/00).
I like this one from malcom X in playboy though. BTW im not american or white. I'm an asian buddhist, i wonder, are you black? muslim? i hope they spare you. I hope you arent jewish. First they came for the jews..
"PLAYBOY: If Muslims ultimately gain control as you predict, what do you plan to do with white people?
MALCOLM X: It's not a case of what would we do, it's a case of what would God do with whites. What does a judge do with the guilty? Either the guilty one repents and atones, or God executes judgment.
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from : http://anklebitingpundits.com/abp_forum//viewtopi
"Keith Ellison
"CAIR's Congressman"
Ellison attended the University of Minnesota, along with future CAIR heads Nihad Awad and Ibrahim Hooper, just prior to Awad and Hooper taking leadership positions with the Minnesota-based Bosnian Relief Committee. While at the university, Ellison became involved with the Nation of Islam (NOI), the organization led by notorious anti-Semite Louis Farrakhan. He kept this involvement in NOI for a period of ten years, participating in rallies, including the Million Man March hate fest; defending hate speech; and using such aliases as Keith Hakim, Keith X Ellison and Keith Ellison-Muhammad. (Scott Johnson, Power Line, 'KEITH ELLISON FOR DUMMIES,' September 30, 2006)
Amidst Ellison's run for Minnesota's 5th District Congressional seat, in 2006, he accepted tens of thousands of dollars in campaign contributions raised during CAIR-sponsored events, including secret CAIR fundraisers held out of state in Florida. As well, he accepted thousands of dollars in contributions from CAIR leaders themselves, including contributions from CAIR's Executive Director Nihad Awad (Nehad Hammad) and CAIR's Chairman Parvez Ahmed. (Federal Election Commission, 'Individuals Who Gave To: ELLISON, KEITH MAURICE,' November 2006 Congressional election) "
Obama is the 2008 howard dean. His scream moment will come. I suspect it will be his ties to radicals.
FYI the folks "we" (by this i mean the non muslim world) are fighting is islam. islam is not a religion it is a manifestation of fascism. There is no moderate islam since there has been no reformation movement. Religions do not dictate interest rates on loans or have detiled political systems (the caliphate). The iraq war is incredibly succesful in one regard and that is sunnis and shites hate each other even more. The kind of killing they are engaged in generates extreme hatred that lingers in a population's social memory. They are so blood thirsty that presented with the opportunity they slaughter each other. Everyone fighter they kill among themselves is one less person who will come to kill me. Its like the japanese fighting the germans for us in WWII.
is it just me or does this sound like the EU in general.
thats what i have been saying since the beginning a fringe of the democratic party are the islamic radicals we are at war with. I'm glad we finally agree.
I suspec barak hussein obama is the same as a (self proclaimed ) former muslim who hides his middle name, i suspect he will say anything to appeal to the base which elects him in the primary.
read the link with the new nation of islam congressman elected from Michigan. At least part of the democratic party are islamic radicals.
anti war groups like moveon.org, dialykos and code pink oppose "the war" all of it. i have never seen end the war in iraq it is always end the war in iraq and afganistan.
how would you explain the extremist congressman? does this idea extend to afganistan as well? the anti war groups which have clout in the democratic party want the US out both countries.
where have I mentioned hamas or hezbollah? dont mix up your terrorist groups i am only talking about al-queda and their wabbisht sunni beliefs. I do not see them doing any charitable work and in fact they are in iraq blowing up infrastructure and historical landmarks.
it was saddam had links to terrorism (which i have shown) and WMD.
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saddam had links to al-queda too the us was following a guy named Abu_Musab_al-Zarqawi since 2002 from afganistan to iraq where he was being treated for injuries from fighting the americans in afganistan.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Abu_Musab_al-Zarqawi
Then there is the direct al-queda, link ansar al-islam which had camps in Iraq. Iraq was becoming another afganistan.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/middle_east/2149499.st
THAT is why the war was started.
can you show me how the WMD has been proven false. If you read the UN report saddam had WMD and it is not all accounted for. What was proven false is that he made more after clinton pulled out inspectors during the bombing (operation desert fox) during his impeachment.
dont believe the american media, the news is filtered.
the bank is Banque Nationale de Paris (BNP) and this is well known. You need to read more about the war if you want to comment on it.d .report/
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http://www.cnn.com/2005/WORLD/meast/10/27/oil.foo
while kofi anans was cleared, his son kojo was also on saddams payroll
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/americas/4391031.stm
While i am at it you should read this to understand why the war happened. Its from 2003 before the war and negates any argument that saddam was secular or not an open supporter of terrorism. This is the BBC which has an anti-war slant.
Palestinians get Saddam funds
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/middle_east/2846365.st
if you dont want to click the link, the gist is this is an official iraqi PR release. With the following rates:
Saddam's payments
$10,000 per family
$25,000 for family of a suicide bomber
$35m paid since September 2000
Also, can you provide any links to iraq and afgan war profiteering that has not been officially and publicly investigated? from credible news sources not conspiracy theory blogs.
FYI there were investigations after WWI and WWII about profiteering as well google "robber baron" or just watch any movie from that time period. When there is a lot of money involved you are guaranteed to have crooks trying to take it.
The link you provided starts with "Al-Qaeda's second-in-command Ayman al-Zawahiri said a US congressional bill calling for a troop withdrawal from Iraq was proof of Washington's defeat, according to a web video posted on Saturday." that is hardly support for bush's policies. I doubt al-qeda would oppose their own victory. I also do not think al-qeda is an iraqi nationalist group since they consist mostly of foreign whabbist fighters and that has been a source of tension with actual nationalists. al-zawarhi that is in the article you linked to is Egyptian. Al-qeda is a sunni arab group. iraq is a majority shia arab and sunni kurd country.
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I oppose islamic radicals and i see there is a disturbing link between democrats and them.
First islamic congressman was elected a democrat in 06. This guy is a former nation of islam member (they think non-blacks and non-muslims are "potential humans" that is a malcom X quote google it )
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/americas/6127234.stm
Islamic theocratic rulers celebrated in iran "this defeat is actually an obvious victory for the Iranian nation."
http://sweetness-light.com/archive/khameni-calls-
Al-qeda welcomes democratic victory
http://washingtontimes.com/op-ed/20061121-083639-
everyone else
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1738183/
Shite radicals chant death to america while supporting the democratic bill
http://www.iht.com/articles/2007/04/10/africa/web
If this were WWII and the nazis and japanese were praising one parties policies over anothers like this, people would have reacted differently. These days it seems people cant see the obvious.
Can you show me anything where terrorists groups oppose democratic policy on the war? in the link you provided they are basically saying you have admitted defeat and now we want to kill more of you. Im sure if they cant kill more infidels in iraq they will move to another country and resume there.
hey if you think you are a terrorist fine by me, dont call me one. I'm not even an american. I live in asia.
french opposed the war becasue the oil for food money was going through a french bank and many officials in the government were on saddam's payroll. how was that right?
actually, terrorists did celebrate the democratic victory in 06 and they are also supportive of the democrats withdrawl from iraq and afganistan since that would be a defacto win for them. So yes, that is actually true in this case.
what the fuck are you doing? are you new here? this is slashdot. half the shit that is posted either does not make sense or is a dupe of something that does not make sense.
Without linking it to webcomics and making it a vehicle to mock the war, there is no way this would be posted. The funny part is the guy is a gun owner and got in trouble for talking about it. That is hardly a position the current administration and the NRA would support.
Basically this guy got fired for exercising his rights under the second amendment and then the first amendment,
leftwing environmental extremists are full of shit.. news at 11.
sounds like an RAS secure Id. this is not without its faults. If the clocks go out of sync or the battery is down you will run into problems.
yeah and she also claimed to have a phd in some places. the CNN article is very weak/deceptive
she didnt just misrepresnet her degrees, she had none. She claimed that she went to various schools and had a phd when in reality the most college she had was some part time work and never completed anything other than high school. And the irony of this was this is the person in charge os admissions and very vocal nationally about how high school students should worry less about their resume. She got away with this in the public eye for 28 years and became the dean of admissions at a place like MIT. now that is impressive.
Boston.com has a much more informative article the summary does not tell you the scope of this.
gee because coming built with SSH and VNC does not work for you
its called denial. I was modded down for the same reason the link is not in the summary. While the post is undeniable true and relevant to the article there are people who want to pretend it werent true.
read it if you can. this is something that will make so many on slashdot's blood boil. how dare he. Heck i can understand why the submitter to slashdot would submit every other article from kotaku but this one. Stuff like this should not see the light of day. The ideas he presents is so outrageous and ignorant.
Compare this to the response of a progressive like Ny Gov Eliot Spitzer . This my friends is why i support progressives. Hillary 08!
does it play legal content though? also do you really think people want to write perl scripts on their ipod? Seriously, i know this is slashdot and all, but you've just taken what is right now the best UI and replaced it with a perl script because you think GUIs are bloated.. good god.
archos does not have the slick UI and the easy sync. It also does not have a legal content source. Where are you going to get movies from? Not everyone has the time to rip and reencode a DVD.
maybe because for many people tiger is just fine and even though leopard will add great features, it wont be like the transition from shit ui phone to iphone
i'm probably being trolled, but if you seriously dont know what slaughterhouse 5 was about go back, read it and then look at the context og when it was written. Google it or something. You havent even read it if you cant figure out what the message was.
As for saying good riddance, you dont know what karma is do you? It has nothing to do with your score on slashdot. I shed no tears at the death of demon. He's bound to his sins.
You are a sad example of a stereotypical slashdot poster. You should really change your ways. Stop pretending you know what you are talking about and read a few books (including slaughterhouse 5, which you have not read at all). You will never learn anything if you act like you know it all beforehand. If you dont like what i tell you because of the messenger, remember even Ram valued the wisdom of Ravan. (dont know what that means? if you're supposedly the expert at asian religions you should)