I believe it is also illegal (it is certainly unethical) to leverage your monopoly to prevent others from entering your market space.
I believe this is also true, although not 100% sure. After all I am not a lawyer.
Is using their control over recorded media and distribution to quash the development of competing technologies (like the Internet) and emerging markets (like the Internet) legal? Ethical?
To quote Sen. Palpatine (in Episode 1), "I will make it legal!". When you have that much money, you can afford quite a bit of lawmakers.
The public got angry and their government did something about it.
The general public is too disinformed, or doesn't care, to take action against big media. How would they know? I mean they get their news from the same people they get their entertainment and so on. ..
Oh, and how does IP give the government a monopoly? Are you implying that the USPO should have competition?
No, I am implying that having a copyright or patent means that YOU have published your works to the world. Up until your patent or copyright expires, the Government has granted you a monopoly on whatever your patent/copyright covers.
Who sues sues their customer base and tries to slit the throat of any threat to their content distribution model? I'll tell you who; a monopoly.
By its nature all Intellectual Property (copyrights, patents, trademarks) are a.gov granted monopoly. Repeat after me, monopolies are not illegal. Using a monopoly to force yourself into other markets is.
Microsoft illegally leveraged their monopoly of the desktop to push IE as the standard browser, to force OEM's to ship Windows or pay retail. They illegally weilded their power on channels that they shouldn't have any control over.
If the RIAA/MPAA levereged their film/music monopoly by releasing only in a new format called BetAtrac and were the only manufacturers of players then that would probably be illegal. Suing people for copyright infringement is not necessarily a bad thing.
If monopolies keep fucking with their customers, it will come a time when the alternatives will look better for all.
WinXP SP2: ~ August 2004 Win2K SP4: ~ June 2003 Debian Woody: ~ July 2002
Yes I consider the different service packs a different Windows release, because each time one is released I must do a killer amount of testing, contrast that to each individual patch.
Yes - Win2k is *old*. It's going into extended support (== only security updates) in a couple of months. Does RedHat actively support RH from 5-6 years ago? Does *anyone* support back-porting new features to versions of their products that are that old?
SIP can use an STUN to get around NAT. Besides what cell phone provider in their right mind would add voip functionality to a cell phone to undercut themselves?!?!
it took me 15 minutes to set up 6to4 on mac os x... I can access any ipv4 address or ipv6 address without any problems. but I guess that doesn't count as an "easy way...to try it out"
I've not been able to get my Mac to work with 6to4. Could you please post instructions?
Everybody's a fucking elitist and knows better than the unwashed masses.
Let's face it, Joe User is mentally challenged when it comes to technology. That's alright though, not everyone does technology.
The worst are the nanog-holes who run around all puffed up, saying "my network, my rules" - it is the customer's fucking network.
It's not the customers network, it's the customers node into the network. Unmanaged the internet would not be usable.
They could come up with more sophisticated alternatives that were more effective against unauthorized traffic, but it is easier to slop blanket rules on everyone.
Thus far nothing has worked. Give good ideas that work, don't sit here and talk smack about what does work but you disagree with.
That's great! We geeks are a market too, and too few services target us. The more geeks that use these services the better!
BTW, those open relays were UNIX and VAX machines, not Linux and back then open relays helped deliver legit email.
Not true, the biggest offenders were Linux boxes. Stock RH up until 6.2 was open relay. When Linux was in it's infancy there was still in kernel 2.0 and early 2.2 it was heavily used by ISP's with open relay configurations.
This is not "best practices" it is what some control freaks are pushing because (again) they feel they know better. email does not want to be centralized for a long list of reasons and many so-called email experts have pointed that out.
Just like those prick doctors always telling us to eat healthier and exercise... Fuck those bastards, the common man knows way more than experts in their prospective fields.
Don't be a dumbass, regular people are not geeks. They should not be treated as such.
Let me guess, you're a network admin at an ISP, right?
Actually no, I work for Uncle Sam as a System Bitch.
Hardcore geek here, with a UID that's far lower than yours.
Uhm, I have an even lower UID than you and am probably a more hardcore geek.
Don't block my outbound port 25.
Don't block my outbound ANYTHING.
I'd prefer to keep port 25 blocked for all home users. If you want to send out through your personal e-mail server, relay through my servers. Port 25 inbound is still enabled. This helps the internet as a whole keep from spreading garbage!
I'm so sick of this "Let's surrender our internet because of Microsoft" bullshit. I'm sick enough of it to burn karma by posting this crap that's going to get modded into oblivion.
Microsoft security sucks, but let's not forget that the original spam zombies were the open relay boxes running Linux. This is not just a Microsoft problem, it's an Internet problem and it must be addressed by the Internet at large. This means you must sacrifice by routing your mail through upstream mail servers. This is just best practices in action, just like disabling source addresses that aren't in your network from sending out from your network (I.E. spoof protection).
Not all of us know someone with a well connected server. Not all of us want to post mail from somewhere other than our box. I know that my box is working and isn't logging what I'm sending somewhere else. I know that the government isn't reading my email logs. I know that my server is MY SERVER and that's THAT.
I assume you also know that the vast majority of e-mail is unencrypted. I also assume you know that your unencrypted e-mail from your server will pass through the isp's network, where it can be logged and or read. If you are paranoid, then use crypto and distribute your keys to the recipients. It's the only way to prevent any of this.
If you don't like it, go back to AOL. Then you can have your little closed interface, able to email all of your little friends who use the same closed interface, and get charged for what I can get for free. All I have to pay for is my connection, whereas you'll have to pay for every "value-added" service you use.
If they are turning off raw socket access, they might as well also turn off sending from port 25 by default
Uhm, then how would you legitimately send out e-mail? Would they block port 25 for all but Outlook/Outlook Express? What would stop a virus from using the internal mail interface to just use Outlooks smtp engine? How would I send out e-mail through Thunderbird without port 25?
Even more paranoia can be had if you have someone like me who uses javascript to md5 the password before sending it over the wire.
MD5 is one way encryption, so if you are sending an md5 over the wire then the destination must have the plain text version for which to compare against.
However, what I have wondered about in episode 3 is how Anakin survived the battle with Ben and managed to stay alive long enough to be picked up by Sidious while in ROTJ he cannot survive for more then a few mins without his breathing mask.. It might be there is some truth (hrm.. truth?? ah well, within the context of the story) in it also.
As I recall Vader did get hit pretty badly with the force lightning from the emperor in ROTJ. I always assumed that he died because of a system failure in the machines that were keeping him alive, rather than not being able to breath.
He seemed to be dying, but said he wanted to see Luke with his "real eyes" before dying. None of this seems inconsistent with Episode 3.
Between Ogg, Lame, Gimp, recursiev acronyms, and all the cutesy Linux distro appellations, it's no wonder a lot of folks can't take open source seriously.
I agree 100%, had i named the format it would have been the Open Audio Format or oaf!
Perhaps we saw a different movie, but I saw this as the crawler in the beginning. Which very clearly states that Count Dooku (Darth Tyranus) was in fact a Sith Lord.
2. Yes, Dooku was a Sith Lord (not "Jedi Master") and able to do all kinds of wacky telekinetic tricks. Jedi Masters are capable of similar feats, and should not be seen as constrained by such mundane things as Newtonian physics.
Actually I believe Dooku was a Jedi Master before he was a Sith Lord.
I'd agree with you based on I and II's "bringing balance to the Force". But in III, Obi-Wan says that the prophecy means the destruction of the Sith.
Anakin did bring balance to the force. It's just that perhaps the Jedi didn't understand the meaning.
I mean think about it, at the end of Episode 3 we have the following:
Jedi: Yoda & Obiwan Sith: Sidious & Vader
2 on each side, seems balanced to me. Seems to me that balance would pretty much dictate that there would be an equal amount on both sides. Perhaps the Jedi just didn't think about that possibility until it was too late.
Seriously, put a robot in the hangar bay, it plugs in, then NETWORK OWNED! you can open any jail cell, tell exactly where the prisoner are, open any door and even control the elevators.
If you noticed, all of the robots had a personality (most had more personality than Hayden Christensen). Seems to me like R2 was probably doing social attacks against the computers involved.
Interesting failure modes. We can resolve them as such:
1) If the phone never loses power, it can be presumed it did not move. So the cached previous location can be restored.
2) If the phone does lose power, and is given a new address -- plugging it in can cause it to ring. Then the person, already at the phone, explicitly knows 911 will work. Nice.
I'm sorry, I based my previous post on the fact that I know Vonage is using sip. Had I thought outside the box, they could develop their own protocol which would transmit uptime, etc.
A bigger problem comes from -- just how much accuracy is required? How much do you want to demand people tell you when you plug in the phone?
Let's face it, no matter how Vonage proceeds they will lose.
If they force E911 on everyone, someone will inevitably forget to update their information, and then when the next person dies Vonage will be under attack.
The privacy groups will get up in arms over GPS too, spreading fud and other distorted realities to scare people away from that.
There's no such thing as personal responsibility in the US anymore, it's always someone elses fault.
> @ Windows patches are smaller (binary > diffs as opposed to full updated packages).
Their are not binary diffs - what the hell is binary diff anyway - their are just single files. If you use properly modularized (splitted packages) Linux system then also you just download packages that you need.
Google for "Delta Patches", also known as binary diffs.
1) The first time you make an outgoing call, you are asked to enter the zip code or city/state (voice recognition) you're located in. That information is tied to your phone, and your/24 subnet.
Hostname would probably be better. I switch between different class A's (66.x.x.x and a 24.x.x.x), let alone tons of different class C's in between. But the hostname always ends in *.pas-eres.charterpipeline.net.
2) The first time you make an outgoing call on a new/24 subnet, you're asked once again for location information.
Providers are too finicky for the most part. Still doesn't totally solve the problem of going to a friends house (same isp) and having it fail there. Although there is less of a chance of that happening.
3) If many users have different locations from the same/24 subnet, calls to 911 are prefaced with "You are being directed to 911 operations at 'foo'. Press zero if you are not located here."
Sounds like a pretty decent system there. Might be a bit hard to manage, but doable.
Personally I think that 911 should always be active, default to the billing address if no other is available. But regardless someone should pick up and ask the nature of the emergency and confirm address.
Yup. It was the big portal boom of the nineties, when suddenly every company with a website decided that it would be a great idea to give out free email addresses, news, stock quotes, humourous animations, and all sorts of other crap except information about their actual product, or any kind of useful service whatsoever. Because of course everybody loved portals!
I still giggle my ass off thinking about some of these companies. Most especially pointcast!
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I believe it is also illegal (it is certainly unethical) to leverage your monopoly to prevent others from entering your market space.
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I believe this is also true, although not 100% sure. After all I am not a lawyer.
Is using their control over recorded media and distribution to quash the development of competing technologies (like the Internet) and emerging markets (like the Internet) legal? Ethical?
To quote Sen. Palpatine (in Episode 1), "I will make it legal!". When you have that much money, you can afford quite a bit of lawmakers.
The public got angry and their government did something about it.
The general public is too disinformed, or doesn't care, to take action against big media. How would they know? I mean they get their news from the same people they get their entertainment and so on. .
Oh, and how does IP give the government a monopoly? Are you implying that the USPO should have competition?
No, I am implying that having a copyright or patent means that YOU have published your works to the world. Up until your patent or copyright expires, the Government has granted you a monopoly on whatever your patent/copyright covers.
Who sues sues their customer base and tries to slit the throat of any threat to their content distribution model? I'll tell you who; a monopoly.
.gov granted monopoly. Repeat after me, monopolies are not illegal. Using a monopoly to force yourself into other markets is.
By its nature all Intellectual Property (copyrights, patents, trademarks) are a
Microsoft illegally leveraged their monopoly of the desktop to push IE as the standard browser, to force OEM's to ship Windows or pay retail. They illegally weilded their power on channels that they shouldn't have any control over.
If the RIAA/MPAA levereged their film/music monopoly by releasing only in a new format called BetAtrac and were the only manufacturers of players then that would probably be illegal. Suing people for copyright infringement is not necessarily a bad thing.
If monopolies keep fucking with their customers, it will come a time when the alternatives will look better for all.
Let's see
WinXP SP2: ~ August 2004
Win2K SP4: ~ June 2003
Debian Woody: ~ July 2002
Yes I consider the different service packs a different Windows release, because each time one is released I must do a killer amount of testing, contrast that to each individual patch.
Given that I have a very very very 'easy to use' e-mail address with my company (e.g., firstname@reallybigisp.net),
Is that you bob@aol.com?
Yes - Win2k is *old*. It's going into extended support (== only security updates) in a couple of months. Does RedHat actively support RH from 5-6 years ago? Does *anyone* support back-porting new features to versions of their products that are that old?
*Cough* Debian *Cough*
Nope, just VoIP.
SIP can use an STUN to get around NAT. Besides what cell phone provider in their right mind would add voip functionality to a cell phone to undercut themselves?!?!
it took me 15 minutes to set up 6to4 on mac os x...
I can access any ipv4 address or ipv6 address without any problems.
but I guess that doesn't count as an "easy way...to try it out"
I've not been able to get my Mac to work with 6to4. Could you please post instructions?
Thanks.
Everybody's a fucking elitist and knows better than the unwashed masses.
Let's face it, Joe User is mentally challenged when it comes to technology. That's alright though, not everyone does technology.
The worst are the nanog-holes who run around all puffed up, saying "my network, my rules" - it is the customer's fucking network.
It's not the customers network, it's the customers node into the network. Unmanaged the internet would not be usable.
They could come up with more sophisticated alternatives that were more effective against unauthorized traffic, but it is easier to slop blanket rules on everyone.
Thus far nothing has worked. Give good ideas that work, don't sit here and talk smack about what does work but you disagree with.
I'll happily pay people like http://www.rawbandwidth.com/ and speakeasy since they seem to keep that in mind.
That's great! We geeks are a market too, and too few services target us. The more geeks that use these services the better!
BTW, those open relays were UNIX and VAX machines, not Linux and back then open relays helped deliver legit email.
Not true, the biggest offenders were Linux boxes. Stock RH up until 6.2 was open relay. When Linux was in it's infancy there was still in kernel 2.0 and early 2.2 it was heavily used by ISP's with open relay configurations.
This is not "best practices" it is what some control freaks are pushing because (again) they feel they know better. email does not want to be centralized for a long list of reasons and many so-called email experts have pointed that out.
Just like those prick doctors always telling us to eat healthier and exercise... Fuck those bastards, the common man knows way more than experts in their prospective fields.
Don't be a dumbass, regular people are not geeks. They should not be treated as such.
Let me guess, you're a network admin at an ISP, right?
Actually no, I work for Uncle Sam as a System Bitch.
There are no bad ports or protocols, just bad people and programs.
Then what is the Evil Bit for?
Hardcore geek here, with a UID that's far lower than yours.
Uhm, I have an even lower UID than you and am probably a more hardcore geek.
Don't block my outbound port 25.
Don't block my outbound ANYTHING.
I'd prefer to keep port 25 blocked for all home users. If you want to send out through your personal e-mail server, relay through my servers. Port 25 inbound is still enabled. This helps the internet as a whole keep from spreading garbage!
I'm so sick of this "Let's surrender our internet because of Microsoft" bullshit. I'm sick enough of it to burn karma by posting this crap that's going to get modded into oblivion.
Microsoft security sucks, but let's not forget that the original spam zombies were the open relay boxes running Linux. This is not just a Microsoft problem, it's an Internet problem and it must be addressed by the Internet at large. This means you must sacrifice by routing your mail through upstream mail servers. This is just best practices in action, just like disabling source addresses that aren't in your network from sending out from your network (I.E. spoof protection).
Not all of us know someone with a well connected server. Not all of us want to post mail from somewhere other than our box. I know that my box is working and isn't logging what I'm sending somewhere else. I know that the government isn't reading my email logs. I know that my server is MY SERVER and that's THAT.
I assume you also know that the vast majority of e-mail is unencrypted. I also assume you know that your unencrypted e-mail from your server will pass through the isp's network, where it can be logged and or read. If you are paranoid, then use crypto and distribute your keys to the recipients. It's the only way to prevent any of this.
If you don't like it, go back to AOL. Then you can have your little closed interface, able to email all of your little friends who use the same closed interface, and get charged for what I can get for free. All I have to pay for is my connection, whereas you'll have to pay for every "value-added" service you use.
Oh get off your high horse. . .
If they are turning off raw socket access, they might as well also turn off sending from port 25 by default
Uhm, then how would you legitimately send out e-mail? Would they block port 25 for all but Outlook/Outlook Express? What would stop a virus from using the internal mail interface to just use Outlooks smtp engine? How would I send out e-mail through Thunderbird without port 25?
This is a really bad idea!
Even more paranoia can be had if you have someone like me who uses javascript to md5 the password before sending it over the wire.
MD5 is one way encryption, so if you are sending an md5 over the wire then the destination must have the plain text version for which to compare against.
However, what I have wondered about in episode 3 is how Anakin survived the battle with Ben and managed to stay alive long enough to be picked up by Sidious while in ROTJ he cannot survive for more then a few mins without his breathing mask.. It might be there is some truth (hrm.. truth?? ah well, within the context of the story) in it also.
As I recall Vader did get hit pretty badly with the force lightning from the emperor in ROTJ. I always assumed that he died because of a system failure in the machines that were keeping him alive, rather than not being able to breath.
He seemed to be dying, but said he wanted to see Luke with his "real eyes" before dying. None of this seems inconsistent with Episode 3.
Between Ogg, Lame, Gimp, recursiev acronyms, and all the cutesy Linux distro appellations, it's no wonder a lot of folks can't take open source seriously.
I agree 100%, had i named the format it would have been the Open Audio Format or oaf!
Dooku was a mere Sith apprentice, not a Sith lord.
p isode3.html
http://www.themoviespoiler.com/Spoilers/starwarse
Perhaps we saw a different movie, but I saw this as the crawler in the beginning. Which very clearly states that Count Dooku (Darth Tyranus) was in fact a Sith Lord.
2. Yes, Dooku was a Sith Lord (not "Jedi Master") and able to do all kinds of wacky telekinetic tricks. Jedi Masters are capable of similar feats, and should not be seen as constrained by such mundane things as Newtonian physics.
Actually I believe Dooku was a Jedi Master before he was a Sith Lord.
I'd agree with you based on I and II's "bringing balance to the Force". But in III, Obi-Wan says that the prophecy means the destruction of the Sith.
Anakin did bring balance to the force. It's just that perhaps the Jedi didn't understand the meaning.
I mean think about it, at the end of Episode 3 we have the following:
Jedi: Yoda & Obiwan
Sith: Sidious & Vader
2 on each side, seems balanced to me. Seems to me that balance would pretty much dictate that there would be an equal amount on both sides. Perhaps the Jedi just didn't think about that possibility until it was too late.
Seriously, put a robot in the hangar bay, it plugs in, then NETWORK OWNED! you can open any jail cell, tell exactly where the prisoner are, open any door and even control the elevators.
If you noticed, all of the robots had a personality (most had more personality than Hayden Christensen). Seems to me like R2 was probably doing social attacks against the computers involved.
Mozilla is doing just fine, but I think it has the same overall outlook... 'if you're that stupid to use a package manager, then you gots to wait'.
Only the sith deal in absolutes!
Well, if you read the Red Hat guy's page, he's talking about a matter of a few hours, not days.
What the hell difference does it make? My RHEL4 workstation is still running Firefox 1.0.3 and without any security update for the fixes.
For reference, 1.0.4 was released on May 12th. It's been over 10 days and still no update or backport of the security fixes.
Hate to say this, but for once I feel just a teeny bit safer surfing on Windows (w/ Firefox of course) than on my up to date Linux box.
Agreed, at least then people who click on any old program will just screw their own machine up instead of screwing with the entire internet.
Maybe we should start a sourceforge project?
Interesting failure modes. We can resolve them as such:
1) If the phone never loses power, it can be presumed it did not move. So the cached previous location can be restored.
2) If the phone does lose power, and is given a new address -- plugging it in can cause it to ring. Then the person, already at the phone, explicitly knows 911 will work. Nice.
I'm sorry, I based my previous post on the fact that I know Vonage is using sip. Had I thought outside the box, they could develop their own protocol which would transmit uptime, etc.
A bigger problem comes from -- just how much accuracy is required? How much do you want to demand people tell you when you plug in the phone?
Let's face it, no matter how Vonage proceeds they will lose.
If they force E911 on everyone, someone will inevitably forget to update their information, and then when the next person dies Vonage will be under attack.
The privacy groups will get up in arms over GPS too, spreading fud and other distorted realities to scare people away from that.
There's no such thing as personal responsibility in the US anymore, it's always someone elses fault.
> @ Windows patches are smaller (binary
> diffs as opposed to full updated packages).
Their are not binary diffs - what the hell is binary diff anyway - their are just single files. If you use properly modularized (splitted packages) Linux system then also you just download packages that you need.
Google for "Delta Patches", also known as binary diffs.
It's first mass deployment was in cracking shareware to full version (http://astalavista.box.sk/).
1) The first time you make an outgoing call, you are asked to enter the zip code or city/state (voice recognition) you're located in. That information is tied to your phone, and your /24 subnet.
/24 subnet, you're asked once again for location information.
/24 subnet, calls to 911 are prefaced with "You are being directed to 911 operations at 'foo'. Press zero if you are not located here."
Hostname would probably be better. I switch between different class A's (66.x.x.x and a 24.x.x.x), let alone tons of different class C's in between. But the hostname always ends in *.pas-eres.charterpipeline.net.
2) The first time you make an outgoing call on a new
Providers are too finicky for the most part. Still doesn't totally solve the problem of going to a friends house (same isp) and having it fail there. Although there is less of a chance of that happening.
3) If many users have different locations from the same
Sounds like a pretty decent system there. Might be a bit hard to manage, but doable.
Personally I think that 911 should always be active, default to the billing address if no other is available. But regardless someone should pick up and ask the nature of the emergency and confirm address.
Yup. It was the big portal boom of the nineties, when suddenly every company with a website decided that it would be a great idea to give out free email addresses, news, stock quotes, humourous animations, and all sorts of other crap except information about their actual product, or any kind of useful service whatsoever. Because of course everybody loved portals!
I still giggle my ass off thinking about some of these companies. Most especially pointcast!