Absolutely. everyone knows that there's a huge difference between shoplifters and warez kiddies -- the shoplifters at least have the balls to physically leave their parent's basement to go steal something.
First he has to move out of his parents basement, take a shower, get some dental work, and get a better job besides flipping burgers at the Carl's Jr. drive-thru before he can afford the measily 10 bucks on streaming baseball.
Why is it all these people who dont think twice about throwing money at new hardware for their workstations are the same people who become a bunch of cheap bastards when it comes to online services?
Maybe if they gave up their nightly combo meal #3 at the local McDonalds, they might be able to not only shrink that gut down so they can finally see their feet, but they also might be able to afford some of this online stuff without all the bellyaching.
Welcome to the real world where cool entertainment costs money.
Life sucks, wear a helmet.
Well, im not a member of the Communist Party-USA, "Groups Seeking Independence for Puerto Rico" the Socialist Workers Party; any "White Hate Groups", any "Black Nationalist Hate Groups"; or even "New Left", so I guess I dont have much to worry about.
What are you worried about? Got a hood and cloak stashed away somewhere?
You have to remember that the kids on the slashdot short bus get all tingly when they can tell all three of their friends in the computer lab that Linux has doubled its marketshare.
Which is ok, I suppose, since going from 1% to 2% is technically 'doubling'....
I would not go to Whitefish just to sit my ass in front of the computer.
Whitefish = Big Mountain -- a skier's/boarder's dream.
Property is cheap too. You'll see tons of celebrities in Whitefish because you can get a buttload of NICE woodsy property for a fraction of what they pay in Cal/NY/wherever.
If you move to Whitefish and expect to have a decent paying job in the techie industry, you're sick in the head. They just don't have it there.
That's a good point, but when you start adding up the dollars in labour spent cleaning up some twerp's mess, as well as having to do an entire audit of neighboring systems, that $5000 can add up pretty fast.
The Yankees are still a big business, and the FBI is available for businesses who are victims of computer fraud/theft/espionage/etc. If our site was hacked, the FBI would be on the top 3 organizations we'd contact. (Actually, it'd be the first). Any time there's an "incident" that could possible cross state/international lines, the FBI is involved.
If you were in charge of Yankees.com, and your site was compromised.. what would you do? Nothing? Call all your 3R33T friends? Investigate by yourself?
This is yet more proof that the average slashdot computer dweeb has zero clue about how business really works outside their dorm or pre-IPO VC dot-com.
Hardly, for about $3500 you can get an Ultra 5 with the SunPCI card (which is basically an AMD-K6-2 400Mhz) and loaded up with RAM. Sort of a hardware version of VMWare, except you have a single processor totally dedicated to your "virtual" machine.
I run NT in a window on top of Solaris at work -- works pretty good.
Course, for all that cash Id rather get a killer SMP linux box and just run VMWare, but hey, im not the one writing the check.
On being a corporate leech:
Don't knock it until you try it.
The great thing about this nation is the freedom to become as filthy rich as you like (as long as you pay your taxes). You also have the freedom to have no ambition and make minimum wage at the local BK. Don't get bitter at the success of other people just because you're sick of standing next to the fry machine.
So, if you're really sick of the "corporate leeches", get off your fat ass and do something about it. Organize. Run for office. Do something besides whining on Slashdot and going back to playing Everquest.
"But thinking that it will eventually displace the Debian package system or, indeed all other package systems, is absurd"
Frankly, I hope it does. There are things I like about both camps that I wish I could have in one tool. I have to work with rpm AND debs, and there are more things about debs (like babysitting an upgrade, lame docs -- How can I RTFM when there is no FM?) that I could do without.
But I dont see anything wrong with one-tool-fits-all. To each his own, I suppose.
That doesn't mean that that functionality can't be built into RPM. I found debian's tools clumsy, and the documentation was hideous. There's no need to have a whole handful of tools just to do package management.
At least Redhat put a lot more effort into documenting how RPM works. There's less of a learning curve on average, and that's why RPM will eventually succeed.
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Absolutely. everyone knows that there's a huge difference between shoplifters and warez kiddies -- the shoplifters at least have the balls to physically leave their parent's basement to go steal something.
First he has to move out of his parents basement, take a shower, get some dental work, and get a better job besides flipping burgers at the Carl's Jr. drive-thru before he can afford the measily 10 bucks on streaming baseball.
Why is it all these people who dont think twice about throwing money at new hardware for their workstations are the same people who become a bunch of cheap bastards when it comes to online services?
Maybe if they gave up their nightly combo meal #3 at the local McDonalds, they might be able to not only shrink that gut down so they can finally see their feet, but they also might be able to afford some of this online stuff without all the bellyaching.
Welcome to the real world where cool entertainment costs money.
Life sucks, wear a helmet.
~dlb
Well, im not a member of the Communist Party-USA, "Groups Seeking Independence for Puerto Rico" the Socialist Workers Party; any "White Hate Groups", any "Black Nationalist Hate Groups"; or even "New Left", so I guess I dont have much to worry about.
What are you worried about? Got a hood and cloak stashed away somewhere?
~dlb
You have to remember that the kids on the slashdot short bus get all tingly when they can tell all three of their friends in the computer lab that Linux has doubled its marketshare.
Which is ok, I suppose, since going from 1% to 2% is technically 'doubling'....
~dlb
Remember, if you can't be an athlete, be an athletic supporter.
I would not go to Whitefish just to sit my ass in front of the computer.
Whitefish = Big Mountain -- a skier's/boarder's dream.
Property is cheap too. You'll see tons of celebrities in Whitefish because you can get a buttload of NICE woodsy property for a fraction of what they pay in Cal/NY/wherever.
If you move to Whitefish and expect to have a decent paying job in the techie industry, you're sick in the head. They just don't have it there.
~dlb
It has nothing to do with pride.
Hey, I'd love to track some l0ser down myself and press charges and optionally whoop his ass if I could.
Do I or my peers have time for that? No.
Do I or my peers have have in-house resources to track them over state or int'l lines? No.
The FBI is available for that sort of thing, so why not make use of the service.
~dlb
That's a good point, but when you start adding up the dollars in labour spent cleaning up some twerp's mess, as well as having to do an entire audit of neighboring systems, that $5000 can add up pretty fast.
The Yankees are still a big business, and the FBI is available for businesses who are victims of computer fraud/theft/espionage/etc. If our site was hacked, the FBI would be on the top 3 organizations we'd contact. (Actually, it'd be the first). Any time there's an "incident" that could possible cross state/international lines, the FBI is involved.
If you were in charge of Yankees.com, and your site was compromised.. what would you do? Nothing? Call all your 3R33T friends? Investigate by yourself?
This is yet more proof that the average slashdot computer dweeb has zero clue about how business really works outside their dorm or pre-IPO VC dot-com.
Life sucks, wear a helmet.
~dlb
And what about it makes it not look like a penguin??
Gee, all those things need is some tape in the middle and they'd look perfectly 'normal'
Hardly, for about $3500 you can get an Ultra 5 with the SunPCI card (which is basically an AMD-K6-2 400Mhz) and loaded up with RAM. Sort of a hardware version of VMWare, except you have a single processor totally dedicated to your "virtual" machine.
I run NT in a window on top of Solaris at work -- works pretty good.
Course, for all that cash Id rather get a killer SMP linux box and just run VMWare, but hey, im not the one writing the check.
~dlb
Ok, they're funny, but not "repeat them every day" funny.
"And I'll have you know that the castle scene filled with the young maidens lended itself to many a lonely night's fantasy in my early teen years."
Too much information!
But I'll admit the "Oral Sex" line right before the scene change makes me laugh every time though..
Hey, you only live once. Take the cash while you can get it.
If you dont like it, get a voice and stand up for yourself or get out of dodge.
Flock() is much funnier than fsck, maybe just because fsck is way overused.
I equate the guys who use fsck to swear with the same guys who repeat the same non-funny Monty Python Holy Grail lines over and over...
The whole fsck=fuck joke has never been very funny.
Not even the first time.
On being a corporate leech:
Don't knock it until you try it.
The great thing about this nation is the freedom to become as filthy rich as you like (as long as you pay your taxes). You also have the freedom to have no ambition and make minimum wage at the local BK. Don't get bitter at the success of other people just because you're sick of standing next to the fry machine.
So, if you're really sick of the "corporate leeches", get off your fat ass and do something about it. Organize. Run for office. Do something besides whining on Slashdot and going back to playing Everquest.
Um, having to explain the punchline ruins the joke.
That poor bastard...
Episode II: Tracers, the Final Frontier
While you're there, please remind those kids to take a shower once in a while and get some dental work.
Yeah, I can just imagine the B.O.
Actually, I cant.
IBM said the same thing about Microsoft back in the 80's.
"I actually use Encap on a Linux-Mandrake box(!) to keep track of what packages I've installed by source, rather than making my own RPMs."
Hey, now thats not a bad idea!
"But thinking that it will eventually displace the Debian package system or, indeed all other package systems, is absurd"
Frankly, I hope it does. There are things I like about both camps that I wish I could have in one tool. I have to work with rpm AND debs, and there are more things about debs (like babysitting an upgrade, lame docs -- How can I RTFM when there is no FM?) that I could do without.
But I dont see anything wrong with one-tool-fits-all. To each his own, I suppose.
"apt-get was what RPM was what meant to be."
That doesn't mean that that functionality can't be built into RPM. I found debian's tools clumsy, and the documentation was hideous. There's no need to have a whole handful of tools just to do package management.
At least Redhat put a lot more effort into documenting how RPM works. There's less of a learning curve on average, and that's why RPM will eventually succeed.