IF THEY GROW THEIR BUSINESS AT ZERO PERCENT, THEY'RE STILL MAKING A FUCK TON OF MONEY EVERY YEAR.
If they grow their business at 0% then their current share price is way over-valued. It is because there is an expectation of future growth built into the share price that the share price is so high.
If Apple doesn't grow, and continues to just make the same fuck ton of money that they are making now, then the current share price is not supportable.
So you believe Market-Cap as a metric is unabashedly pro-apple? Got it, I guess.
I've always thought market cap was an incredibly bad metric for measuring a company.
Just because a couple of fools are willing to pay an inflated price for a share on a particular day shouldn't mean that you can extrapolate to say the entire company is worth that much times the number of shares.
In fact, one look at the market depth for any company is proof enough that most people aren't willing to pay top price, and correspondingly, that the company's worth shouldn't be so directly related to the share price.
But banks tend to be willing to lend money to companies based on their market cap, so what would I know: I'm not an economist.
Has anybody mathematically proven that the current copyright laws are detrimental to the sciences and useful arts? If we could do that maybe we could get some laws struck down as unconstitutional. (I know, I'm dreaming...)
It's a nice idea: the problem is that the only maths our current crop of politicians understand is how to calculate how much money is being contributed to their re-election fund, and by whom...
I drive a Prius! 0-60 in about 10 seconds and top speed of just over 100 mph- but low emissions/fuel consumption are more important to me than speed.
It's just that the slowest Bentley on the market at the moment has a 0-60 of 5.3s and a top speed of 184mph. Or they sell a cheaper model that does 0-60 in 3.9s and gets you over 200mph.
If that's a car for people that like to go slowly, which car would you recommend for speed freaks?
These are pretty typical figures for luxury vehicles in that class and not that impressive - even the current BMW M5 does 0-60 in 3.6s.
If you want speed and have money you obviously go for the high performance sports cars: bugatti, lamborghini, ferrari, porsche all have vehicles that can do 0-60 in the sub 3 second range.
Past news, like the the fact that our courts told AFACT to go AFUCK themselves?
The courts did, the politicians didn't. The Minister for Communications etc, Stephen Conroy has stated many times that he leans to the AFACT side in all of this.
I assume the problem he is having is soldering the components. If so: get a 3D printer of some sort, and start printing out 3D circuit boards. You can make these boards so that they are solder-free and the components just plug in.
Bonus geek points if you also build a reprap from scratch - although that may not be possible if the arthritis is getting bad.
Iran has no nuclear power plants to harm, in fact we have OFFERED them nuclear power plants.
A lie, and then a straw man argument. You're not arguing honestly.
Last I heard, the Bushehr nuclear reactor was running quite nicely. That happens to be in Iran. Maybe you are thinking of somewhere else.
I haven't heard of the US offering Iran nuclear power plants recently, I assume that might have been one of the deals offered to Iran if it stopped its enrichment program. Either way, I can't see why Iran would allow itself to rely on a nation that is so openly hostile to it for energy security. Accepting that kind of help would be incredibly naive. It's like hiring a wolf to guard your chickens.
As for your support, I couldn't care less about it, and I've certainly never said anything even remotely like "they hate our freedoms".
You obviously care about someone's support for these actions and feel strongly about it - since you are posting all over this topic.
Care to enlighten us about the reasons you support these actions against Iran? I can't find a reason or justification in any of your other posts, only the strong impression that you fully support US foreign policy towards Iran.
You're referring to a previous story that you misinterpreted to mean that the US would consider cyberattacks to be an act of war. What that story actually said was that cyberattacks against certain key infrastructure might be considered an act of war if it were serious enough.
I didn't misinterpret anything. It is you who are playing with semantics.
Stuxnet was an attack on industrial control systems used in Iranian nuclear power plants.
Are you implying that US nuclear power plants are not considered key infrastructure? And that a cyberattack bringing down that infrastructure would not be considered an act of war?
I'm sorry that international espionage isn't as cut and dry as you'd like it to be, but that's just how it is and has been for most of history. There were pretenses of chivalry in Europe (and likely other places) for a time, back when royalty was a good ole boys' club and the peasants would be the ones dying. We're past that now, and I for one am glad of it.
I don't know what the Iranians have done to you that makes you happy that the US and Israeli government is dangerously meddling with Nuclear power plants and risking the lives of Iranian citizens - but the Iranians haven't done anything to me, and so I'd prefer to take an approach of innocent until proven guilty before instigating a war against them.
If you want my support for acts of espionage escalating to a potential war against Iran, you are going to need a better reason than "they hates our freedoms" in order to convince me of the need for these actions.
Foster's is horrible swill that no self-respecting Australian would drink. Which is why it is essentially an export-only beer - they foist it off onto the rest of the world because won't drink it themselves.
. . . does that add more latency to the line? Can you measure actual versus expected latency to see if your undersea lines have been tapped?
No - you can use something like a 1:99 optical splitter so they'll barely notice the signal drop, and will add about 5mm of optical fiber into the line, so they won't notice any additional latency (less than 20 picoseconds). Then run your 1% signal into an optical amplifier, say an EDFA, and snoop to your hearts content.
The fuel cell has no biological components: It consists of a platinum catalyst that strips electrons from glucose, mimicking the activity of cellular enzymes that break down glucose to generate ATP, the cell’s energy currency.
Dude, I am aware of that. In fact it is the specific point we are discussing. See my previous comments in this thread. Karmashock and I were discussing the differences between this technology: http://www.newscientist.com/article/dn16882-yeastpowered-fuel-cell-feeds-on-human-blood.html which is yeast and feeds on glucose in human blood, and the technology reported in the TFA which has no biological components and uses a platinum catalyst, but operates in spinal fluid.
Karmashock is of the opinion that he prefers the blood-powered technology, even though it has biological components, because he prefers having foreign bodies in his blood to having stuff in his spinal fluid.
Whereas I am more creeped out by the blood-powered technology because it is biologically based (yeast), and so I prefer having the non-biological system from TFA, even though it operates in your spinal fluid.
People are creeped out by different stuff, so it was interesting to discuss.
you find the thing that feeds on spinal fluid less creepy then the stuff that feeds on blood?
It isn't because I don't like bleeding, or have issues with seeing blood, it's because the stuff that feeds on blood is biological, and so can mutate, and who knows what it will do to you if the mutated yeast becomes particularly virulent and dominant. While the stuff that feeds on spinal fluid is just a pretty simple chemical reaction with a catalyst, and doesn't have the ability to start self-multiplying in your body.
Exactly what I was about to point out. I have a PhD in EE (microelectronics), and a bachelor comp sci, the two things could not be more far removed.
The PhD in EE was all about things like the physical properties of materials (especially silicon), chemistry, properties of plasmas in a vacuum, etc. the comp sci degree was more about coding algorithms,apis, multitasking and other operating systems concepts.
Both things are useful to me, and gave me completely different skill sets.
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IF THEY GROW THEIR BUSINESS AT ZERO PERCENT, THEY'RE STILL MAKING A FUCK TON OF MONEY EVERY YEAR.
If they grow their business at 0% then their current share price is way over-valued. It is because there is an expectation of future growth built into the share price that the share price is so high.
If Apple doesn't grow, and continues to just make the same fuck ton of money that they are making now, then the current share price is not supportable.
So you believe Market-Cap as a metric is unabashedly pro-apple? Got it, I guess.
I've always thought market cap was an incredibly bad metric for measuring a company.
Just because a couple of fools are willing to pay an inflated price for a share on a particular day shouldn't mean that you can extrapolate to say the entire company is worth that much times the number of shares.
In fact, one look at the market depth for any company is proof enough that most people aren't willing to pay top price, and correspondingly, that the company's worth shouldn't be so directly related to the share price.
But banks tend to be willing to lend money to companies based on their market cap, so what would I know: I'm not an economist.
Has anybody mathematically proven that the current copyright laws are detrimental to the sciences and useful arts? If we could do that maybe we could get some laws struck down as unconstitutional. (I know, I'm dreaming...)
It's a nice idea: the problem is that the only maths our current crop of politicians understand is how to calculate how much money is being contributed to their re-election fund, and by whom...
Don't hold your breath. Clive Palmer has a long history of shooting his mouth off about grandiose schemes, then not following through with any action.
I do. My phone is an original Samsung Galaxy S i9000 released in 2010.
Runs a treat. Got it from here.
I'm curious, which car do you drive?
I drive a Prius! 0-60 in about 10 seconds and top speed of just over 100 mph- but low emissions/fuel consumption are more important to me than speed.
It's just that the slowest Bentley on the market at the moment has a 0-60 of 5.3s and a top speed of 184mph. Or they sell a cheaper model that does 0-60 in 3.9s and gets you over 200mph.
If that's a car for people that like to go slowly, which car would you recommend for speed freaks?
These are pretty typical figures for luxury vehicles in that class and not that impressive - even the current BMW M5 does 0-60 in 3.6s.
If you want speed and have money you obviously go for the high performance sports cars: bugatti, lamborghini, ferrari, porsche all have vehicles that can do 0-60 in the sub 3 second range.
The OP is confused. Rich people don't care what speed they go at ...
I think the OP is simply projecting their own impatience.
Exactly- if rich people didn't like to go slow, there would be no market for Bentleys either.
Generally, it is the people fighting hard to become rich that are the ones who don't like to go slow.
Past news, like the the fact that our courts told AFACT to go AFUCK themselves?
The courts did, the politicians didn't. The Minister for Communications etc, Stephen Conroy has stated many times that he leans to the AFACT side in all of this.
I can't believe everyone is taking my comment so seriously.
Let me guess: You've never watched the Police Academy movies.
This sure is better than having someone perform an emergency tracheotomy with a steak knife on you.
But I want my botnet to be allowed one vote per node!
Damn forgot the link: http://www.google.com.au/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=3d%20printed%20circuit%20boards&source=web&cd=3&ved=0CGQQFjAC&url=http%3A%2F%2Fhackaday.com%2F2012%2F05%2F22%2F3d-printed-circuit-boards-using-conductive-ink%2F&ei=HdfhT4W5MYmuiQeD2JT9Dg&usg=AFQjCNGrlWIjYUW03o-8O7AkOuFD77V9ew
I really need to sleep sometime this week.
I assume the problem he is having is soldering the components. If so: get a 3D printer of some sort, and start printing out 3D circuit boards. You can make these boards so that they are solder-free and the components just plug in.
Bonus geek points if you also build a reprap from scratch - although that may not be possible if the arthritis is getting bad.
Iran has no nuclear power plants to harm, in fact we have OFFERED them nuclear power plants. A lie, and then a straw man argument. You're not arguing honestly.
Last I heard, the Bushehr nuclear reactor was running quite nicely. That happens to be in Iran. Maybe you are thinking of somewhere else.
I haven't heard of the US offering Iran nuclear power plants recently, I assume that might have been one of the deals offered to Iran if it stopped its enrichment program. Either way, I can't see why Iran would allow itself to rely on a nation that is so openly hostile to it for energy security. Accepting that kind of help would be incredibly naive. It's like hiring a wolf to guard your chickens.
As for your support, I couldn't care less about it, and I've certainly never said anything even remotely like "they hate our freedoms".
You obviously care about someone's support for these actions and feel strongly about it - since you are posting all over this topic.
Care to enlighten us about the reasons you support these actions against Iran? I can't find a reason or justification in any of your other posts, only the strong impression that you fully support US foreign policy towards Iran.
You're referring to a previous story that you misinterpreted to mean that the US would consider cyberattacks to be an act of war. What that story actually said was that cyberattacks against certain key infrastructure might be considered an act of war if it were serious enough.
I didn't misinterpret anything. It is you who are playing with semantics.
Stuxnet was an attack on industrial control systems used in Iranian nuclear power plants.
Are you implying that US nuclear power plants are not considered key infrastructure? And that a cyberattack bringing down that infrastructure would not be considered an act of war?
I'm sorry that international espionage isn't as cut and dry as you'd like it to be, but that's just how it is and has been for most of history. There were pretenses of chivalry in Europe (and likely other places) for a time, back when royalty was a good ole boys' club and the peasants would be the ones dying. We're past that now, and I for one am glad of it.
I don't know what the Iranians have done to you that makes you happy that the US and Israeli government is dangerously meddling with Nuclear power plants and risking the lives of Iranian citizens - but the Iranians haven't done anything to me, and so I'd prefer to take an approach of innocent until proven guilty before instigating a war against them.
If you want my support for acts of espionage escalating to a potential war against Iran, you are going to need a better reason than "they hates our freedoms" in order to convince me of the need for these actions.
it is an act of espionage and sabotage proportionate to the problem that is trying to be resolved.
If you do it to us, it will be considered an act of war.
Foster's is horrible swill that no self-respecting Australian would drink. Which is why it is essentially an export-only beer - they foist it off onto the rest of the world because won't drink it themselves.
. . . does that add more latency to the line? Can you measure actual versus expected latency to see if your undersea lines have been tapped?
No - you can use something like a 1:99 optical splitter so they'll barely notice the signal drop, and will add about 5mm of optical fiber into the line, so they won't notice any additional latency (less than 20 picoseconds). Then run your 1% signal into an optical amplifier, say an EDFA, and snoop to your hearts content.
Ok, climates chage, this happens. It happened before people and industry were here and it will continue to happen when we are gone.
First they came for the peat bogs, and I did not speak out - because I was not a peat bog...
Submitter said he wanted to run edubuntu.
Edubuntu doesn't run on windows...
Read before commenting, please. From TFA:
The fuel cell has no biological components: It consists of a platinum catalyst that strips electrons from glucose, mimicking the activity of cellular enzymes that break down glucose to generate ATP, the cell’s energy currency.
Dude, I am aware of that. In fact it is the specific point we are discussing. See my previous comments in this thread. Karmashock and I were discussing the differences between this technology: http://www.newscientist.com/article/dn16882-yeastpowered-fuel-cell-feeds-on-human-blood.html which is yeast and feeds on glucose in human blood, and the technology reported in the TFA which has no biological components and uses a platinum catalyst, but operates in spinal fluid.
Karmashock is of the opinion that he prefers the blood-powered technology, even though it has biological components, because he prefers having foreign bodies in his blood to having stuff in his spinal fluid.
Whereas I am more creeped out by the blood-powered technology because it is biologically based (yeast), and so I prefer having the non-biological system from TFA, even though it operates in your spinal fluid.
People are creeped out by different stuff, so it was interesting to discuss.
you find the thing that feeds on spinal fluid less creepy then the stuff that feeds on blood?
It isn't because I don't like bleeding, or have issues with seeing blood, it's because the stuff that feeds on blood is biological, and so can mutate, and who knows what it will do to you if the mutated yeast becomes particularly virulent and dominant. While the stuff that feeds on spinal fluid is just a pretty simple chemical reaction with a catalyst, and doesn't have the ability to start self-multiplying in your body.
Exactly what I was about to point out. I have a PhD in EE (microelectronics), and a bachelor comp sci, the two things could not be more far removed.
The PhD in EE was all about things like the physical properties of materials (especially silicon), chemistry, properties of plasmas in a vacuum, etc. the comp sci degree was more about coding algorithms,apis, multitasking and other operating systems concepts.
Both things are useful to me, and gave me completely different skill sets.
It's pretty creepy - but I think it is less creepy than the yeast they developed to generate energy from glucose in blood: http://www.newscientist.com/article/dn16882-yeastpowered-fuel-cell-feeds-on-human-blood.html
At least this solution doesn't involve fungus...