According to this link, the SquirrelFish in the latest nightly build (without the extra optimizations) can already compile *and* run the source code between 1.08x and 1.94x as fast as Tamarin when Tamarin is just running pre-compiled code. It's fast.
But what does "money" really represent? Money availability is not a constant thing, and money is a vague measurement of productivity or work done. I think if you go back to your original statement about "energy" it's actually more accurate. There is a lot of stored solar energy in the ground in the form of oil, but at some point we're going to catch up to the "now" and have only as much solar energy as is available each minute from the sun.
There are really only a very small number of sources of energy on the planet: solar, rotational (Earth and Earth-Moon), nuclear... any others? Everything else (geothermal, wind, hydro, etc) are just an alternate way of harnessing them.
And everything takes energy to produce, support, deploy, etc. A "singularity" would take an infinite amount of energy, wouldn't it?
Since the point I was making was refuting a simple "is it going down or is it going up?" and someone else suggested I needed some sort of source for my claim that it was going up, and I provided that source in response to that poster, I don't understand your objection. If my claim had been that Blu-Ray was overtaking DVD or that it was going mainstream I could see your point. It wasn't. It was simply refuting the parent poster's assertion that Blu-Ray sales are tanking since it "won".
The only handhelds allowed to connect to our corporate network are company issued ones, and they come locked down so you have to enter a password after a few minutes of inactivity to do anything except answer the phone. Our laptops come with the whole-disk encryption pre-installed. All external web access goes through the company proxy.
It's possible to lock it all down instead of live in fear. Of course, there's a fine line between security and stifled innovation. Our company's proxies, by default, blocks blogs, and I have to request that they be unblocked one at a time. Since most of the discussion concerning JSRs for JDK7 development happen through people's blogs, it can seriously slow down the ability to do my job sometimes. But if you want things secure, there are going to be tradeoffs.
(And if a company laptop doesn't contain ANYTHING worth stealing, the employee should probably be fired for not producing anything worthwhile:) )
"...And according to Nielsen VideoScan sales data, the nascent Blu-ray Disc saved the day for the sellthrough business, with DVD unit sales in the first quarter down 1.2% from the first quarter of 2007 but Blu-ray Disc sales up a whopping 351% [for the first quarter in 2008]."
The PS3 remains the most popular Blu-Ray player by far and sales appear to be accelerating. Blu-Ray's win appears to be what vaulted the PS3 to second place and relegated the XBox360 to third in monthly sales. Sales of Blu-Ray discs tripled in early 2008 after HD-DVD disappeared.
It's true you don't hear about it as much because it's not as new anymore, but I can't find any source that corroborates your assertions.
I am offended by your comment. I am in favor of full disclosure, and I am not a black hat. I know there are many people like me.
You need to grow a thicker skin. I'm sorry you're offended but any reasonable person should realize my comment was not a personal attack, but an observation about the tendencies of the market. Unless you consider yourself as an individual an entire "market segment", my point that full disclosure will do nothing to tie product popularity to security stands. As does the assertion that "full disclosure" puts black hats in a much better position than they'd otherwise be in, giving them a head start compared to where they'd be with a "responsible disclosure" policy.
What's interesting is most people that actually own an iPhone don't seem to give a rat's ass about security on it.
Exactly. Which proves this article's premise completely wrong. The only people who ARE interested are the malicious folks, which will be almost your entire "full disclosure" audience. Full disclosure is a great way to give the malicious folks a head start, and won't do one tiny little thing towards linking a product's popularity to its security.
I remember way back in 18-240 engineering class we were using a logic probe (for the software only folks in the audience, it's a little device that looks like a digital thermometer with a light to indicate if the line is 1 or 0). It had a label on it that read, "WARNING: Severe misuse may cause injury or death." I guess they meant stabbing someone with it, but it raised two questions in my mind: 1. Is there anything in the world which, if severely enough misused, couldn't cause injury or death, and 2. What lawsuit prompted such a silly warning?
Yes, he sounds very noble for making an internet post. I'm sure everyone's much more secure because of it.
If he actually wanted to help anything, he'd have reported the company to the BBB or even the credit companies. He was just ranting about his company on an online forum. Of course he got fired! I'd have fired him, too. You just don't do that.
So your argument is that with C/C++ you can make something almost as portable, almost as re-usable, almost as fast to write, almost as easy to debug, using a library selection that's almost as complete as Java. And in return you might gain a tiny bit of speed increase?
And you're also postulating that there's more likely to be a fully standards-compliant C++ compiler with a standard thread interface on all those esoteric machines of which you speak than a basic JVM?
I understand it's cool to hate Java on Slashdot, but sometimes I think the Java bashers are trying a little too hard.
So what are you proposing, state sponsorship of all creative works? Everyone contribute what they can and take what they need?
The output of creative folks is NOT a non-scarce good... it's actually extremely scarce. And if there isn't a better model than Copyright (and no one seems to have implemented one yet), then when you pay for the reproductions you're funding the original work.
I think plagiarizing is a strong word to throw around. And particular implementations of general approaches can often be very interesting when one considers what tradeoffs are made transferring pure theory to practical applications. If this sort of thing were attempted in the 90's, they'd probably arbitrarily pick a few hundred features by hand and KL-transform it down to the most significant dimensions and hash those into one of these codes. Since I've been out of "the biz" for awhile, it's pretty interesting to me to read about these new approaches and how far both the theory and implementations have come.
My understanding is that while garbage dumps probably ARE a selective breeding ground for breaking down what we throw out, that they're a terrible environment for growing bacteria in general. That essentially the waste is packed so tightly and so mixed with toxins that the bacteria often die in their own waste output (methane, etc) and that oxygen is rapidly depleted leading to only anaerobic bacteria which reproduce far slower. Now pumping air down into the waste and burning the methane output seems like a pretty reasonable alternative and could not only produce power but enable the sort of bacterial environment you suggest, it would seem to me...
The LGPL is the only license that will insure that at least that Cisco's implementation of the protocol can not be easily extended in an [interoperable] manner.
Given the timespan that Cisco expects the protocol to be in use, version 3 of the LGPL is the best option.
Actually I don't see how it will do any such thing. People who get the code are free to implement whatever non-interoperable extensions they want as long as they publish the code. And Cisco will almost certainly not choose v3 of the LGPL, considering how many rights v3 takes away from hardware manufacturers. They'd almost certainly want to keep things TiVo-style. IMHO, LGPLv2 does seem like a pretty good license for them, though, as a hardware manufacturer.
In addition the symptom they are describing (chest pain during "exposure" to Wifi-enabled public buildings) seems much more typical for an episode of Anxiety than what Wifi is usually accused to provoke (cancers, disorienting bees, etc.).
As someone who is on Lexapro to subdue repeated anxiety attacks, I have to say that this was exactly my first thoughts when I read it. It sounds like they're having an anxiety attack and that avoidance and false correlations have caused "suspicion of wifi/electromagnetism" to be a trigger. My guess is that anti-anxiety medication and cognitive behavior counseling might cure their "allergy" fairly effectively. Unfortunately, they appear to have gotten themselves into a situation where they're unlikely to be able to pay for their cure, making it harder to get-- counseling can be hard enough to get covered when you DO have a job and good insurance.
Even 9.0 and 9.1 was pretty awful if you had the unfortunate predicament of having to use the DoD-mandated C/JMTK release of ArcGIS. Using standard Windows installers was WAY too simple... there was this bizarre package manager from hell you had to go through to get anything installed. I don't know how ESRI managed to win the market with pre-9.2 versions of this software, but I would call 9.2 "version 1.0", myself.
I'm sorry? Sun is making excellent strides toward getting Java fully open-source. They greatly diminished their reliance on libraries they'd licensed over the years with each OpenJDK release, to the point where most Java code out there doesn't need the stuff that's left encumbered. Thus Fedora and friends have been able to put a near-complete OpenJDK in their distro.
At this point, actually, Java is open-source to the point where as a commercial entity it's a little frustrating to use some of the new stuff. For example, the new scenegraph in JavaFX is GPL. No LGPL, no classpath exception-- if you use it and want to redistribute your app, you GPL anything that touches it.
"free for selfish pricks who want to enjoy the benefits of freedom for themselves while depriving others of same".
Since most I know who list an absolute F/OSS requirement do so solely because they wanted to use other people's work without paying for it, I suspect the original poster wasn't all that interested in altruism anyway.
Though this begs the question of how many people actually use a laptop in this fashion. I myself cannot see it entirely useful (e.g. typing) or comfortable.
I'm not even going to ask what body part YOU would have suggested making an impression of...
How can a company with 4% of the market be bound by anti-trust laws? An "illegal tying arrangement" is attempting to leverage a monopoly in one area to win a significant advantage in another market segment. iPods are the only market in which Apple might arguably have a monopoly. They certainly don't have one in operating systems, and they certainly don't have one in Intel hardware.
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According to this link, the SquirrelFish in the latest nightly build (without the extra optimizations) can already compile *and* run the source code between 1.08x and 1.94x as fast as Tamarin when Tamarin is just running pre-compiled code. It's fast.
But what does "money" really represent? Money availability is not a constant thing, and money is a vague measurement of productivity or work done. I think if you go back to your original statement about "energy" it's actually more accurate. There is a lot of stored solar energy in the ground in the form of oil, but at some point we're going to catch up to the "now" and have only as much solar energy as is available each minute from the sun.
There are really only a very small number of sources of energy on the planet: solar, rotational (Earth and Earth-Moon), nuclear... any others? Everything else (geothermal, wind, hydro, etc) are just an alternate way of harnessing them.
And everything takes energy to produce, support, deploy, etc. A "singularity" would take an infinite amount of energy, wouldn't it?
Since the point I was making was refuting a simple "is it going down or is it going up?" and someone else suggested I needed some sort of source for my claim that it was going up, and I provided that source in response to that poster, I don't understand your objection. If my claim had been that Blu-Ray was overtaking DVD or that it was going mainstream I could see your point. It wasn't. It was simply refuting the parent poster's assertion that Blu-Ray sales are tanking since it "won".
And... journalism? You must be new here.
The only handhelds allowed to connect to our corporate network are company issued ones, and they come locked down so you have to enter a password after a few minutes of inactivity to do anything except answer the phone. Our laptops come with the whole-disk encryption pre-installed. All external web access goes through the company proxy.
:) )
It's possible to lock it all down instead of live in fear. Of course, there's a fine line between security and stifled innovation. Our company's proxies, by default, blocks blogs, and I have to request that they be unblocked one at a time. Since most of the discussion concerning JSRs for JDK7 development happen through people's blogs, it can seriously slow down the ability to do my job sometimes. But if you want things secure, there are going to be tradeoffs.
(And if a company laptop doesn't contain ANYTHING worth stealing, the employee should probably be fired for not producing anything worthwhile
Okay. But the original post, though, stated that Blu-Ray sales have collapsed. Do you agree with that? Citation?
Here's a quote from "Home Media Magazine":
"...And according to Nielsen VideoScan sales data, the nascent Blu-ray Disc saved the day for the sellthrough business, with DVD unit sales in the first quarter down 1.2% from the first quarter of 2007 but Blu-ray Disc sales up a whopping 351% [for the first quarter in 2008]."
The PS3 remains the most popular Blu-Ray player by far and sales appear to be accelerating. Blu-Ray's win appears to be what vaulted the PS3 to second place and relegated the XBox360 to third in monthly sales. Sales of Blu-Ray discs tripled in early 2008 after HD-DVD disappeared.
It's true you don't hear about it as much because it's not as new anymore, but I can't find any source that corroborates your assertions.
I am offended by your comment. I am in favor of full disclosure, and I am not a black hat. I know there are many people like me.
You need to grow a thicker skin. I'm sorry you're offended but any reasonable person should realize my comment was not a personal attack, but an observation about the tendencies of the market. Unless you consider yourself as an individual an entire "market segment", my point that full disclosure will do nothing to tie product popularity to security stands. As does the assertion that "full disclosure" puts black hats in a much better position than they'd otherwise be in, giving them a head start compared to where they'd be with a "responsible disclosure" policy.
What's interesting is most people that actually own an iPhone don't seem to give a rat's ass about security on it.
Exactly. Which proves this article's premise completely wrong. The only people who ARE interested are the malicious folks, which will be almost your entire "full disclosure" audience. Full disclosure is a great way to give the malicious folks a head start, and won't do one tiny little thing towards linking a product's popularity to its security.
Just viewing a web page is "downloading" dozens of files. Nice try though.
I remember way back in 18-240 engineering class we were using a logic probe (for the software only folks in the audience, it's a little device that looks like a digital thermometer with a light to indicate if the line is 1 or 0). It had a label on it that read, "WARNING: Severe misuse may cause injury or death." I guess they meant stabbing someone with it, but it raised two questions in my mind: 1. Is there anything in the world which, if severely enough misused, couldn't cause injury or death, and 2. What lawsuit prompted such a silly warning?
Yes, he sounds very noble for making an internet post. I'm sure everyone's much more secure because of it.
If he actually wanted to help anything, he'd have reported the company to the BBB or even the credit companies. He was just ranting about his company on an online forum. Of course he got fired! I'd have fired him, too. You just don't do that.
So your argument is that with C/C++ you can make something almost as portable, almost as re-usable, almost as fast to write, almost as easy to debug, using a library selection that's almost as complete as Java. And in return you might gain a tiny bit of speed increase?
And you're also postulating that there's more likely to be a fully standards-compliant C++ compiler with a standard thread interface on all those esoteric machines of which you speak than a basic JVM?
I understand it's cool to hate Java on Slashdot, but sometimes I think the Java bashers are trying a little too hard.
So what are you proposing, state sponsorship of all creative works? Everyone contribute what they can and take what they need?
The output of creative folks is NOT a non-scarce good... it's actually extremely scarce. And if there isn't a better model than Copyright (and no one seems to have implemented one yet), then when you pay for the reproductions you're funding the original work.
I find your post extremely amusing... most of your list used to be applied to Emacs compared to vi back in my day.
Since my company pays for IntelliJ I don't have to deal with Eclipse, but I've used it a few times and, well, eh, it's just another IDE.
I think plagiarizing is a strong word to throw around. And particular implementations of general approaches can often be very interesting when one considers what tradeoffs are made transferring pure theory to practical applications. If this sort of thing were attempted in the 90's, they'd probably arbitrarily pick a few hundred features by hand and KL-transform it down to the most significant dimensions and hash those into one of these codes. Since I've been out of "the biz" for awhile, it's pretty interesting to me to read about these new approaches and how far both the theory and implementations have come.
My understanding is that while garbage dumps probably ARE a selective breeding ground for breaking down what we throw out, that they're a terrible environment for growing bacteria in general. That essentially the waste is packed so tightly and so mixed with toxins that the bacteria often die in their own waste output (methane, etc) and that oxygen is rapidly depleted leading to only anaerobic bacteria which reproduce far slower. Now pumping air down into the waste and burning the methane output seems like a pretty reasonable alternative and could not only produce power but enable the sort of bacterial environment you suggest, it would seem to me...
The LGPL is the only license that will insure that at least that Cisco's implementation of the protocol can not be easily extended in an [interoperable] manner.
Given the timespan that Cisco expects the protocol to be in use, version 3 of the LGPL is the best option.
Actually I don't see how it will do any such thing. People who get the code are free to implement whatever non-interoperable extensions they want as long as they publish the code. And Cisco will almost certainly not choose v3 of the LGPL, considering how many rights v3 takes away from hardware manufacturers. They'd almost certainly want to keep things TiVo-style. IMHO, LGPLv2 does seem like a pretty good license for them, though, as a hardware manufacturer.
In addition the symptom they are describing (chest pain during "exposure" to Wifi-enabled public buildings) seems much more typical for an episode of Anxiety than what Wifi is usually accused to provoke (cancers, disorienting bees, etc.).
As someone who is on Lexapro to subdue repeated anxiety attacks, I have to say that this was exactly my first thoughts when I read it. It sounds like they're having an anxiety attack and that avoidance and false correlations have caused "suspicion of wifi/electromagnetism" to be a trigger. My guess is that anti-anxiety medication and cognitive behavior counseling might cure their "allergy" fairly effectively. Unfortunately, they appear to have gotten themselves into a situation where they're unlikely to be able to pay for their cure, making it harder to get-- counseling can be hard enough to get covered when you DO have a job and good insurance.
Even 9.0 and 9.1 was pretty awful if you had the unfortunate predicament of having to use the DoD-mandated C/JMTK release of ArcGIS. Using standard Windows installers was WAY too simple... there was this bizarre package manager from hell you had to go through to get anything installed. I don't know how ESRI managed to win the market with pre-9.2 versions of this software, but I would call 9.2 "version 1.0", myself.
a la the farce with Java
I'm sorry? Sun is making excellent strides toward getting Java fully open-source. They greatly diminished their reliance on libraries they'd licensed over the years with each OpenJDK release, to the point where most Java code out there doesn't need the stuff that's left encumbered. Thus Fedora and friends have been able to put a near-complete OpenJDK in their distro.
At this point, actually, Java is open-source to the point where as a commercial entity it's a little frustrating to use some of the new stuff. For example, the new scenegraph in JavaFX is GPL. No LGPL, no classpath exception-- if you use it and want to redistribute your app, you GPL anything that touches it.
Maybe they'll give the sword-swinging guy guns and have him fire a couple of shots at Indy before he gets shot...
"free for selfish pricks who want to enjoy the benefits of freedom for themselves while depriving others of same".
Since most I know who list an absolute F/OSS requirement do so solely because they wanted to use other people's work without paying for it, I suspect the original poster wasn't all that interested in altruism anyway.
Though this begs the question of how many people actually use a laptop in this fashion. I myself cannot see it entirely useful (e.g. typing) or comfortable.
I'm not even going to ask what body part YOU would have suggested making an impression of...
How can a company with 4% of the market be bound by anti-trust laws? An "illegal tying arrangement" is attempting to leverage a monopoly in one area to win a significant advantage in another market segment. iPods are the only market in which Apple might arguably have a monopoly. They certainly don't have one in operating systems, and they certainly don't have one in Intel hardware.