1) If the company has rules like that, then they're invoking procedure as being worth more than the intelligence of their employees. This can be filed under the "anal" category. (quit guys)
2) Man, if this guy thinks something as simple as seti can possibly create a security risk where outlook wouldn't, then I can only wonder how he expects to be able to reproduce.
The GPL is actually pretty solid, so don't worry too much.
We'll start with an analogy.. if I sold you some binary software under copyright, then you hex-edited or in some way modified it and gave it to all your mates, you'd be violating copyright law because I didn't give you permission to do that.
The GPL is actually a concession of what you CAN do, not what you can't. It's basically a contract that says "you can copy this, but under the following conditions". If you don't obey that contract or you can in some way suggest to the court that the contract is void, then the contract is void, and you are subject to copyright law.
Thus, if I write some software and license it to you under the GPL, and you violate that license, I can sue you for copyright infringement.
Disclaimer: IANAQLY (q==qualified, y==yet)
can't moderate above 5, but it's a great point.
One more thing - don't feel you HAVE to get involved.. open source is for free, from the developers to you lot. We're not saying "here's some code, so give us something back". We're just saying "here's some code". (full stop) I used to feel guilty about using linux but not writing much code. Now I write loads of code and don't care what my users give back! As long as I've made a few people happy, my project has done well, and that's why I did it!
when you're good enough, you'll just write the stuf.. as long as you don't join the dark side, you'll be fine. In the mean time, learn at your own rate. A few tips about open source :
1) it's almost all object-orientated C. The best way to learn this is to get half-good at C++, then drop back down to C (C++ teaches proper classes.. once you understand it, you can just "pretend" with structs and intelligent naming of functions (and void*)). You may just prefer to stay with C++.. no problem, but appreciate that you'll piss off the purists:-)
2) ALWAYS be ready to change what you don't like. The whole point of open source is that you can scratch that itch. Don't be afraid to search for that itch in several million lines of code. If the code is so badly written that you can't find that itch, then it's the fault of the programmers, not you.
Don't get me wrong - I'm one of the few people who have read Bjarne Stroustrup's "novel" from cover to cover, but if you say that someone who's done a "moderate" amount of programming such as vbscript is ok reading "programming perl" then either I'm wierd, or you're a perl expert reading a book for perl experts.
Admittedly, the camel is an interesting read and a great reference, but it goes off on far too many tangents into educated matters to come anywhere near a perl beginner's resource. Rather than presenting clear examples on the knowlege learned so far, the author chooses to give complex examples on future code saying "don't worry about the bits you don't understand, I'll explain that later" which is nice, but does he expect the whole thing to suddenly just "click" a year later? Some people are less patient than that. As I say, "programming perl" is a great reference manual, but to use it for anything beyond that is silly.
Even if you're an adept programmer, if you're a perl beginner, try "learning perl" or one of the other alternatives.
g.
I installed it as root (debian, xfree4). I then tried to run it as a user, and it segfaulted without error. Running it as root seemed to fix this (like that's secure).
I then went to a website with a java applet (www.tet.co.uk). It seemed to work, but then I realised I couldn't type anything, and the window wasn't refreshing (except for the applet).
All in all, I'm impressed with AOL here.. they've committed an act of gross faliure to get an open source browser (that works) to work.
As someone who's interested in the future of private, anonymous file sharing and mp3, I take offense at people who break the law by pirating mp3s.
I have mp3'd my (read: "my") entire album collection of 150 CDs, and it's using 17GB. Either you have several thousand CDs, or you're doing damage to the filesharing case by stealing music.
If you listen to a piece of music, and you want to keep listening to it, buy it. If you don't like it, delete it. Prove to the RIAA that we're good customers, not pirates.
Oneday, in a dreamworld not far from here, X or OpenGL will support a "vertical sync" instruction just like the good old days, and we can say goodbye to jerky scrolling. Not just in games, but in "less", "netscape", in fact, anything that moves stuff around. You'll actually be able to read the text scrolling up the screen because it's clear!
No wait.. we've been lacking this feature since 1992.. because (usual response) "it won't be supported on all hardware". Fine! Make the instruction just return on hardware that can't generate the appropriate IRQ!
Our last chance to stop the law is thrown out, cause the respondents specified items too broadly. What about offering them the chance to define their lists of items before just rejecting their comments?
This is a clear demonstration of the utter disrespect to democracy that corporate America has become. The only people to benefit from this are those that want to control America for the sake of their own wallet. Enough is enough.
We've had the online polls, we've had a huge response from REAL people addressing faults in the law, and the law makers have made absolutely no compromise on any of the sections, in fact it's hard to find evidence in the text that they've even made an attempt to understand and address the issues raised.
By actioning this law, the "United States" has inflicted civil war on its very own people in order to persecute the freedom of the very advocates who stand in the definition of the "American Dream" for the benefit of those whos only desire is to rape it of its goodness.
Well, I must say, if this is what they call "final", then there's some mad forces at work. I'd say they've finally reached Beta.
Konqueror still has problems with formatting tables, java applets, fonts.
There's MANY places where they've ignored the drag and drop paradym. Drag an image from a konquerer to kword, why doesn't it insert the picture? I can't get the "drag an image onto desktop to set background" tip to work.
It's a shame that a project had so much potential, but they call "this" finished. Sorry guys, but linux still isn't ready for the desktop.
It is clear that patents were created to protect innovators from monopolists, but today we have the opposite.
A "pre"-patent example of innovator abuse would go like this :
o Inventor invents something
o Inventor demonstrates invention to company 'X', with intent to sell
o Company X steals inventors idea
"post"-patent examples of abuse are as follows :
o Inventors A, B, and C all have the same idea, but Inventor A gets the patent and sues B and C for implementing THEIR solution.
or :
o Monopolies X,Y,Z,A,B,C etc. register 2000 patents a year each, thus starving their mutual industry of solutions to common problems.
o Software developer A spends months on a piece of software only to find that several of the solutions that --HE-- thought of were apparently patented by X,Y,Z,A,B and C the year before.
or :
o Inventor A invents something through pure genius
o 10 years later, Inventor B has same idea, but derives this idea through more recent technological understanding.
o A sues B, even though B has done nothing wrong.
Clearly we have an issue. Without patents, monopolies have the ability to deprive inventors of their livelihood, but with patents we have a far worse situation where monopolies can starve development by sitting on patents for the purpose of legally-extracted profit whilst not actually developing anything useful for societies themselves.
Please comment on the above and how you intend to find a compromise to the current system. I personally feel that to protect inventors, patents should be abolished and replaced with strong "non-disclosure or implementation agreement" protection which an inventor can hold against anyone they have shown their idea.
Until the GPL is tested in court, people cannot risk violating it, even over petty things. Who knows what anti-GPL court tactics have already been thought up in the legal departments of Microsoft and Corel?
If some code in Python violates the GPL in some way then you might think "so what?" but if someone then re-uses this code in another project (X) and inadvertently releases this code under the GPL, he could land into big trouble.
If someone takes code out of X and violates its GPL licence, he could take it to court and find that the license was invalid anyway due to the fact that the original sourcecode (from Python) was breaching the GPL!
In other words, in order to release something under the GPL, ALL code within it has to be either GPL or upwardly compatible with the GPL.
File sharing is a right. If I'm not breaking the law, it is no business of anyone who I give my data to.
Unfortunately, because you theives are just stealing music, napster and all the other file sharing tools are seen as "trafficking" software.
Admittedly, napster have no respect for anyone - they're just a company out to give their investors early retirement, but for all you PEOPLE out there, PLEASE save gnutella and freenet. they're legal at the moment, because without being abused, they're nice ways to be private. Hang on to our freedom while it's still there.. please?
I'm writing this on my laptop. I beat the shit out of my computer when I read about this, and now I'm HD-less.
1) AOL (much as I hate them for other reasons) cannot be responsible for their employee's spare time's code
2) coding is not a crime
3) If I send a file to a friend, providing I'm not breaking the law by doing so, it is NOT the business of ANYONE else
4) wtf do AOL have to do with this?
5) a plea to napster users. PLEASE stop distributing copyrighted material over napster - you're ruining the concept of private file-sharing for everyone else.
I assume that the re-write of the file manager will eventually queue a re-write of most of the apps so we can have "real" drag and drop?
At the moment, we're still clicking [menu] file-save, then going through the laborious and completely counter-intuitive system of a "file browser" just to save a file in apps. Dragging a file out of [random application] and dropping into the file manager is the way to go. Dragging a file out of [random picture editor] into [random word processor] to insert a picture is the way to go.
Yup. It's a moderately fast dance for a couple, based on a 4/4 rythmn and latin-influenced music. The basic step involves reciprocating side-steps with emphasis on moving the hips. This is decorated with moves such as the "mambo" and "rumba".
It should be noted that "Samba" the open source project is not a German project, and thus shouldn't be affected by German trademark law. It is a global project. It has been around for many years from now.
Many German companies and organisations may have adopted this foriegn product for their own use and benefit, but that doesn't make it German, and certainly shouldn't force Samba to change its name! If a German company were to host the files on their server, then they're not allowed to charge for it, so they cannot possibly be using the alleged trademark in bad faith. People aren't stupid.. it's possible to tell the difference between a fileserver and a transaction processor.
Welcome to the world, Bankers. Back down, or feel the wraith of 20 million freedom advocates in your mailbox.
M$ are already at it. A friend of mine who will remain unnamed works for a computer games company who was recently visited by an "X-Box aquisition team".
They didn't make an appointment, they just turned up in suits, had a look round, presumably made an estimate on the value of the company, and left again.
If you're going to base your decision on server software on how many millions of transactions it can make per second then perhaps you should try management.
1) support 2) advertising revenue 3) "gold" packs with better features 4) market capitalization (must assume your product is worth something) 5) consultancy.
just one thing about foley/van dam/etc.. Unless you're fascinated by 80s GUI technology and vector-scan graphics and stuff, GET THE CUT DOWN VERSION:-) As a bonus, it has a much larger chapter on curved surfaces and for the price of the full size paperback, you can get a hardback version that you can get into your backpack without causing a spine injury.
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ok, so they broke the company rules, but..
1) If the company has rules like that, then they're invoking procedure as being worth more than the intelligence of their employees. This can be filed under the "anal" category. (quit guys)
2) Man, if this guy thinks something as simple as seti can possibly create a security risk where outlook wouldn't, then I can only wonder how he expects to be able to reproduce.
The GPL is actually pretty solid, so don't worry too much. We'll start with an analogy.. if I sold you some binary software under copyright, then you hex-edited or in some way modified it and gave it to all your mates, you'd be violating copyright law because I didn't give you permission to do that. The GPL is actually a concession of what you CAN do, not what you can't. It's basically a contract that says "you can copy this, but under the following conditions". If you don't obey that contract or you can in some way suggest to the court that the contract is void, then the contract is void, and you are subject to copyright law. Thus, if I write some software and license it to you under the GPL, and you violate that license, I can sue you for copyright infringement. Disclaimer: IANAQLY (q==qualified, y==yet)
can't moderate above 5, but it's a great point.
One more thing - don't feel you HAVE to get involved.. open source is for free, from the developers to you lot. We're not saying "here's some code, so give us something back". We're just saying "here's some code". (full stop) I used to feel guilty about using linux but not writing much code. Now I write loads of code and don't care what my users give back! As long as I've made a few people happy, my project has done well, and that's why I did it!
when you're good enough, you'll just write the stuf.. as long as you don't join the dark side, you'll be fine. In the mean time, learn at your own rate. A few tips about open source :
:-)
:-)
1) it's almost all object-orientated C. The best way to learn this is to get half-good at C++, then drop back down to C (C++ teaches proper classes.. once you understand it, you can just "pretend" with structs and intelligent naming of functions (and void*)). You may just prefer to stay with C++.. no problem, but appreciate that you'll piss off the purists
2) ALWAYS be ready to change what you don't like. The whole point of open source is that you can scratch that itch. Don't be afraid to search for that itch in several million lines of code. If the code is so badly written that you can't find that itch, then it's the fault of the programmers, not you.
3) Never give up.
4) Stay cool
Don't get me wrong - I'm one of the few people who have read Bjarne Stroustrup's "novel" from cover to cover, but if you say that someone who's done a "moderate" amount of programming such as vbscript is ok reading "programming perl" then either I'm wierd, or you're a perl expert reading a book for perl experts. Admittedly, the camel is an interesting read and a great reference, but it goes off on far too many tangents into educated matters to come anywhere near a perl beginner's resource. Rather than presenting clear examples on the knowlege learned so far, the author chooses to give complex examples on future code saying "don't worry about the bits you don't understand, I'll explain that later" which is nice, but does he expect the whole thing to suddenly just "click" a year later? Some people are less patient than that. As I say, "programming perl" is a great reference manual, but to use it for anything beyond that is silly. Even if you're an adept programmer, if you're a perl beginner, try "learning perl" or one of the other alternatives. g.
Excuse me while I laugh my pants off
I installed it as root (debian, xfree4). I then tried to run it as a user, and it segfaulted without error. Running it as root seemed to fix this (like that's secure).
I then went to a website with a java applet (www.tet.co.uk). It seemed to work, but then I realised I couldn't type anything, and the window wasn't refreshing (except for the applet).
All in all, I'm impressed with AOL here.. they've committed an act of gross faliure to get an open source browser (that works) to work.
As someone who's interested in the future of private, anonymous file sharing and mp3, I take offense at people who break the law by pirating mp3s.
I have mp3'd my (read: "my") entire album collection of 150 CDs, and it's using 17GB. Either you have several thousand CDs, or you're doing damage to the filesharing case by stealing music.
If you listen to a piece of music, and you want to keep listening to it, buy it. If you don't like it, delete it. Prove to the RIAA that we're good customers, not pirates.
bye.
Oneday, in a dreamworld not far from here, X or OpenGL will support a "vertical sync" instruction just like the good old days, and we can say goodbye to jerky scrolling. Not just in games, but in "less", "netscape", in fact, anything that moves stuff around. You'll actually be able to read the text scrolling up the screen because it's clear!
No wait.. we've been lacking this feature since 1992.. because (usual response) "it won't be supported on all hardware". Fine! Make the instruction just return on hardware that can't generate the appropriate IRQ!
Computers are shitty these days.
Our last chance to stop the law is thrown out, cause the respondents specified items too broadly. What about offering them the chance to define their lists of items before just rejecting their comments?
This is a clear demonstration of the utter disrespect to democracy that corporate America has become. The only people to benefit from this are those that want to control America for the sake of their own wallet. Enough is enough.
We've had the online polls, we've had a huge response from REAL people addressing faults in the law, and the law makers have made absolutely no compromise on any of the sections, in fact it's hard to find evidence in the text that they've even made an attempt to understand and address the issues raised.
By actioning this law, the "United States" has inflicted civil war on its very own people in order to persecute the freedom of the very advocates who stand in the definition of the "American Dream" for the benefit of those whos only desire is to rape it of its goodness.
The WIPO should be ashamed of itself.
Where do i get one of these great "lower end" PCs then.. they sound cool compared to my K6.
Well, I must say, if this is what they call "final", then there's some mad forces at work. I'd say they've finally reached Beta. Konqueror still has problems with formatting tables, java applets, fonts. There's MANY places where they've ignored the drag and drop paradym. Drag an image from a konquerer to kword, why doesn't it insert the picture? I can't get the "drag an image onto desktop to set background" tip to work. It's a shame that a project had so much potential, but they call "this" finished. Sorry guys, but linux still isn't ready for the desktop.
It is clear that patents were created to protect innovators from monopolists, but today we have the opposite. A "pre"-patent example of innovator abuse would go like this : o Inventor invents something o Inventor demonstrates invention to company 'X', with intent to sell o Company X steals inventors idea "post"-patent examples of abuse are as follows : o Inventors A, B, and C all have the same idea, but Inventor A gets the patent and sues B and C for implementing THEIR solution. or : o Monopolies X,Y,Z,A,B,C etc. register 2000 patents a year each, thus starving their mutual industry of solutions to common problems. o Software developer A spends months on a piece of software only to find that several of the solutions that --HE-- thought of were apparently patented by X,Y,Z,A,B and C the year before. or : o Inventor A invents something through pure genius o 10 years later, Inventor B has same idea, but derives this idea through more recent technological understanding. o A sues B, even though B has done nothing wrong. Clearly we have an issue. Without patents, monopolies have the ability to deprive inventors of their livelihood, but with patents we have a far worse situation where monopolies can starve development by sitting on patents for the purpose of legally-extracted profit whilst not actually developing anything useful for societies themselves. Please comment on the above and how you intend to find a compromise to the current system. I personally feel that to protect inventors, patents should be abolished and replaced with strong "non-disclosure or implementation agreement" protection which an inventor can hold against anyone they have shown their idea.
They don't even know what "pretentious" means.. how do they expect to be able to write a lexer? :-)
Until the GPL is tested in court, people cannot risk violating it, even over petty things. Who knows what anti-GPL court tactics have already been thought up in the legal departments of Microsoft and Corel?
If some code in Python violates the GPL in some way then you might think "so what?" but if someone then re-uses this code in another project (X) and inadvertently releases this code under the GPL, he could land into big trouble.
If someone takes code out of X and violates its GPL licence, he could take it to court and find that the license was invalid anyway due to the fact that the original sourcecode (from Python) was breaching the GPL!
In other words, in order to release something under the GPL, ALL code within it has to be either GPL or upwardly compatible with the GPL.
Surely if the employee has no contract of employment, he/she isn't considered an "employee" in legal terms.
File sharing is a right. If I'm not breaking the law, it is no business of anyone who I give my data to.
Unfortunately, because you theives are just stealing music, napster and all the other file sharing tools are seen as "trafficking" software.
Admittedly, napster have no respect for anyone - they're just a company out to give their investors early retirement, but for all you PEOPLE out there, PLEASE save gnutella and freenet. they're legal at the moment, because without being abused, they're nice ways to be private. Hang on to our freedom while it's still there.. please?
I'm writing this on my laptop. I beat the shit out of my computer when I read about this, and now I'm HD-less. 1) AOL (much as I hate them for other reasons) cannot be responsible for their employee's spare time's code 2) coding is not a crime 3) If I send a file to a friend, providing I'm not breaking the law by doing so, it is NOT the business of ANYONE else 4) wtf do AOL have to do with this? 5) a plea to napster users. PLEASE stop distributing copyrighted material over napster - you're ruining the concept of private file-sharing for everyone else.
I assume that the re-write of the file manager will eventually queue a re-write of most of the apps so we can have "real" drag and drop?
At the moment, we're still clicking [menu] file-save, then going through the laborious and completely counter-intuitive system of a "file browser" just to save a file in apps. Dragging a file out of [random application] and dropping into the file manager is the way to go. Dragging a file out of [random picture editor] into [random word processor] to insert a picture is the way to go.
> Samba, it's the name of a dance - right?
Yup. It's a moderately fast dance for a couple, based on a 4/4 rythmn and latin-influenced music. The basic step involves reciprocating side-steps with emphasis on moving the hips. This is decorated with moves such as the "mambo" and "rumba".
It should be noted that "Samba" the open source project is not a German project, and thus shouldn't be affected by German trademark law. It is a global project. It has been around for many years from now.
Many German companies and organisations may have adopted this foriegn product for their own use and benefit, but that doesn't make it German, and certainly shouldn't force Samba to change its name! If a German company were to host the files on their server, then they're not allowed to charge for it, so they cannot possibly be using the alleged trademark in bad faith. People aren't stupid.. it's possible to tell the difference between a fileserver and a transaction processor.
Welcome to the world, Bankers. Back down, or feel the wraith of 20 million freedom advocates in your mailbox.
They're owned by a lawyer..
M$ are already at it. A friend of mine who will remain unnamed works for a computer games company who was recently visited by an "X-Box aquisition team".
They didn't make an appointment, they just turned up in suits, had a look round, presumably made an estimate on the value of the company, and left again.
If you're going to base your decision on server software on how many millions of transactions it can make per second then perhaps you should try management.
1) support
2) advertising revenue
3) "gold" packs with better features
4) market capitalization (must assume your product is worth something)
5) consultancy.
*yawn*
just one thing about foley/van dam/etc.. Unless you're fascinated by 80s GUI technology and vector-scan graphics and stuff, GET THE CUT DOWN VERSION :-) As a bonus, it has a much larger chapter on curved surfaces and for the price of the full size paperback, you can get a hardback version that you can get into your backpack without causing a spine injury.