>But they have commercial reasons to log those addresses.
Sure, and I understand the advertising value in knowing that a user is from xyz ZIP code. But keeping a log with IP address correlated with login times doesn't have commercial value, and any company that wants to make money, but doesn't want to bolster the national security state would be well advised to just not keep the logs.
This is the same as corporations that have document purge policies. Corps do it for their privacy, and they can do it for users (if the want).
Great point. Twitter started out as a joke, but has quickly become a vital aspect of toppling governments. Same for Facebook.
For graduates of the John Yoo school of law, that's what free speech/1st amendment was for in the first place.
And the same administration is going to deign to lecture Iran and China on human rights issues? (Hillary at the UNHRC.) Speaking of Iran, how exactly are they going to condemn Iran going after social networkers and trying to unmask Twitter users after they're doing it themselves? All after the Obama administration asked Twitter to delay a Twitter system upgrade to facilitate the Iran protests.
Are you saying that Twitter's servers know your IP when you're tweeting to establish the TCP connection? Yes, that's true, but they have no technical (as opposed to political) reason to log the IP address.
>there was no First Amendment issue because activists "have already made their Twitter posts and associations publicly available."
The tweets are already published. If they weren't illegal what are you pursuing them for?
So, somebody tweets something in support of Wikileaks, you want to hunt them down to send them to Guantan, and there's no 1st amendment issue.
At this rate Tunisia (which just abolished its state security) and Egypt (whose people raided their state security HQ) will be freer than the "land of the free".
Question to web 2.0 companies: Why are you keeping logs of which user logged in from which IP address in the first place? That is, if it's not out of some misplaced sense of "patriotism", or do the Feds make you do it?
For GeoIP ads, that a problem for the ad server serving the ad to the person reading a tweet, not the tweeter. And if it's for geographical information on the tweeter, just do the GeoIP lookup upon signup, and you don't need to keep the IP data.
Somebody mod this up for making the statement blindingly obvious to anyone other than GNOME/Ubuntu that different devices call for different interfaces.
And NOT for removing stuff from the desktop because it's problematic on a touchscreen. Or a netbook. Or a phone.
So that explains it. I always wondered why you would go with an tech (Silverlight) who's goal was to be MS's Flash, when Flash was already on every computer in existence.
>What will they do? Buy the proprietary tool, every one of them. It doesn't matter that they'll pay 10,000$ total instead of 1000$ because they're not coordinated.
Good analysis of the economic problem. And being uncoordinated, it's (usually) in people's interest to pay the small proprietary fee.
But: does the emergence of coordination systems like Chipin change that economic incentive? (There's also another site like Chipin that only pays out your pledge when you reach the goal, but I forgot what it was.)
Well, yeah, there are those sites. Although, some that are just links to other sites are still useful to people, like Digg, Reddit,./. Is the difference between them and Digg that they're just not big enough yet?
But there's still the aspect that Google reserves for itself and friends the moral right to behavior that it condemns in others (or penalizes them for it). The copyright content thing is one. Another is cloaking: showing different content to search engines vs. normal browsers. Except if you're a big company like NYTimes, or WSJ: in that case, you won't get banned from Google for showing content to Google, and a wall to users.
>For example they also sued many search engine spamming websites that were just scraping content from other sites and trying to make money with other peoples content
Scrapers like Google that store and offer up other peoples content?
Is the hat going to be the image for all Australia stories, whether they be about encryption, M$, Telus, the National Broadband initiative, kangaroos, etc.?
Do lawyers come up with with the stupidest things and portray themselves as educated idiots because of the lack of oxygen caused by too-tight neckties, or is it some other reason?
Granted I haven't been in the market for a long time, but the last time I was, HP computers were quite solidly built, with toolless removal of disk drives, heavy (i.e, high-quality) power supplies, etc.
I didn't quite understand if you meant that as a good thing or bad thing. Even from a single supplier, there are different levels of quality of production.
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OK, thanks for that perspective. That makes sense (esp. the 1-week purge policy).
Basically, it's the idiots that ruin it for everybody else (viz. the login issue at the FSF leading to login controls).
>But they have commercial reasons to log those addresses.
Sure, and I understand the advertising value in knowing that a user is from xyz ZIP code. But keeping a log with IP address correlated with login times doesn't have commercial value, and any company that wants to make money, but doesn't want to bolster the national security state would be well advised to just not keep the logs.
This is the same as corporations that have document purge policies. Corps do it for their privacy, and they can do it for users (if the want).
Great point. Twitter started out as a joke, but has quickly become a vital aspect of toppling governments. Same for Facebook.
For graduates of the John Yoo school of law, that's what free speech/1st amendment was for in the first place.
And the same administration is going to deign to lecture Iran and China on human rights issues? (Hillary at the UNHRC.) Speaking of Iran, how exactly are they going to condemn Iran going after social networkers and trying to unmask Twitter users after they're doing it themselves? All after the Obama administration asked Twitter to delay a Twitter system upgrade to facilitate the Iran protests.
Sorry, I didn't understand.
Are you saying that Twitter's servers know your IP when you're tweeting to establish the TCP connection? Yes, that's true, but they have no technical (as opposed to political) reason to log the IP address.
This.
>there was no First Amendment issue because activists "have already made their Twitter posts and associations publicly available."
The tweets are already published. If they weren't illegal what are you pursuing them for?
So, somebody tweets something in support of Wikileaks, you want to hunt them down to send them to Guantan, and there's no 1st amendment issue.
At this rate Tunisia (which just abolished its state security) and Egypt (whose people raided their state security HQ) will be freer than the "land of the free".
Question to web 2.0 companies: Why are you keeping logs of which user logged in from which IP address in the first place? That is, if it's not out of some misplaced sense of "patriotism", or do the Feds make you do it?
For GeoIP ads, that a problem for the ad server serving the ad to the person reading a tweet, not the tweeter. And if it's for geographical information on the tweeter, just do the GeoIP lookup upon signup, and you don't need to keep the IP data.
Well, wind speed wouldn't increase in all areas of a grid (NA or Europe) at the same time, would it?
Wouldn't windspeed increases in one area be balanced by decreases in another?
Somebody mod this up for making the statement blindingly obvious to anyone other than GNOME/Ubuntu that different devices call for different interfaces.
And NOT for removing stuff from the desktop because it's problematic on a touchscreen. Or a netbook. Or a phone.
Does it do that?
For MP3s, at least, Ubuntu is set up so that it prompts you to download drivers when you attempt to play them in RhythmBox. Don't know about DVDs.
Aha!
So that explains it. I always wondered why you would go with an tech (Silverlight) who's goal was to be MS's Flash, when Flash was already on every computer in existence.
>What will they do? Buy the proprietary tool, every one of them. It doesn't matter that they'll pay 10,000$ total instead of 1000$ because they're not coordinated.
Good analysis of the economic problem. And being uncoordinated, it's (usually) in people's interest to pay the small proprietary fee.
But: does the emergence of coordination systems like Chipin change that economic incentive? (There's also another site like Chipin that only pays out your pledge when you reach the goal, but I forgot what it was.)
Well, yeah, there are those sites. Although, some that are just links to other sites are still useful to people, like Digg, Reddit, ./. Is the difference between them and Digg that they're just not big enough yet?
But there's still the aspect that Google reserves for itself and friends the moral right to behavior that it condemns in others (or penalizes them for it). The copyright content thing is one. Another is cloaking: showing different content to search engines vs. normal browsers. Except if you're a big company like NYTimes, or WSJ: in that case, you won't get banned from Google for showing content to Google, and a wall to users.
>For example they also sued many search engine spamming websites that were just scraping content from other sites and trying to make money with other peoples content
Scrapers like Google that store and offer up other peoples content?
Just so we're clear:
Is the hat going to be the image for all Australia stories, whether they be about encryption, M$, Telus, the National Broadband initiative, kangaroos, etc.?
Does any other country get the same treatment?
Do lawyers come up with with the stupidest things and portray themselves as educated idiots because of the lack of oxygen caused by too-tight neckties, or is it some other reason?
Looks like I might have found my next phone. Thanks.
One Asked For.
Do you think this is anything other than a way for the company contracted for this project to make their living?
Yeah, this is neato, but what was wrong with stamps?
What's wrong with HP computers?
Granted I haven't been in the market for a long time, but the last time I was, HP computers were quite solidly built, with toolless removal of disk drives, heavy (i.e, high-quality) power supplies, etc.
I didn't quite understand if you meant that as a good thing or bad thing. Even from a single supplier, there are different levels of quality of production.
Where there is a http://opensource.palm.com/, I don't know to what extent they're opening up the entire OS.
Could WebOS be the Great White Hope for geeks now that Nokia has gone to the dark $ide?
And how open (rooted) are HP current or future WebOS handhelds to be?
Is there any HP analogue to the N900?
While true, for native speakers, there are about as many native Spanish speakers (358 million) as English speakers.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spanish_language
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/English_language
Isn't he the same guy who's underwriting a massive patent troll operation?
Would seem a little hypocritical to now be writing a cookbook. After all, almost all recipes have some element from older recipes.
Or was that Paul Allen?
>Tell me where I can find somebody that can make real good pizza in the US.
Pizzeria Uno?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Uno_Chicago_Grill
How much slower is paravirtualization vs. hardware virtualization?
If you're renting a virtual private server, I'd assume it's always better to go for hardware Xen virtualization?
Any opinion on OpenVZ?
What's a good website where you can find out what my next CPU should be, while keeping in mind:
-power consumption
-ease of virtualization (I've heard some chips have that disabled)
Sorry for sounding like a noob, but it's been a while since I've been in the market for a CPU.