I think the advocates of Wikileaking are making the following argument:
Openness is a virtue in itself. Hence, it doesn't matter if there any possible negative effects that can be traced to such a leak.
An analogue would be free speech. Most liberals (old sense of the word) believe in free speech as a good in itself. So, while accepting all the benefits of free speech, they disclaim any responsibility for any bad effects.
Otherwise, each application of free speech would be decided on the merits, and not on principle. E.g., violent video games, pornography, etc.
Whether that's a good thing depends on your philosophy.
but basically it's a fairy tale about if the FCC had started regulating interstate electronic communications in 1993, and how it would have mandated Minitel compatibility for electronic devices.
It's amazing how many people have gotten taken in with the misconception that the FCC is "taking over" the Internet. The simplest analogy is toll roads: they're built by private companies, but the government doesn't allow the operators to favor or ban traffic of competing contractors (or anyone else, for that matter).
Best comment in the whole thread. Unfortunately, I'm posting instead of modding.
Anyway, all the naysaying repsonses probably (for the most part) be judged to be slow typists sour grapes.
After all, why would someone who knows how type disparage the ability to do so?
It's like a knowledge worker who claims he mainly just "thinks" and doesn't need to know how to write. Typing is the ability to computerize your thoughts after you're done thinking.
What I don't understand is why they think this is even necessary in the new world we just entered a month or so ago.
Why should they have to buy up domain names?
Why not just have their friends at Visa/Mastercard deny the ability of anyone to buy a domain name which could (potentially) be used to engage in "illegal activities"?
>knowingly facilitating the violation of such copyright laws
So where does that stop?
-The office stationary supply store that sold Post-It notes for pirate's office to write passwords on? -The 7-11 that sold Doritos for their webmaster? -Dell for selling them a laptop? -Intel for selling a CPU to Dell who sold it onward? -Google for linking to them? -And everybody else for linking to Google?
>Exactly, you are used to the noise of the engine. You'll get used to oder cues.
I'm trying to figure out if that was "other" or "odor" you were trying to say, and if the latter, awaiting our forthcoming "ring-smell" overlords with trepidation.
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Especially when it's restarting, I've wondered why it has to try to load huge numbers of tabs all at once. Why not load 3-4 tabs, then the next 3-4, etc?
You often have a large number of tabs at startup because you click on Restart after installing an extension, and you had tabs open.
Btw, what happens to the disk cache re: those tabs? When FF is running, it caches pages so they won't have to be downloaded again. So why does it download again when you restart? Why not read it off the disk?
Oh, and, to insure 100% privacy and OPSEC, let's have our Chinese suppliers build a "do not track" button into the device, which we'll tell the troops to activate when going out on a mission.
The stuff you mention is basically why FOSS usage in a company has to come from the top, from the company founders. Create a new Internet startup, use only FOSS (PHP/Java/Python, etc. for infra, OpenOffice/Google Office for documents, etc.).
Have it in the company culture from the beginning. And you don't have weird legacy VBA scripts or XLS to deal with.
OK, thanks for that. I thought for a second that the need to recruit the Twitter generation had led the military to make more changes than I would have imagined.
Did you mistakenly use the same href for your 2nd link? I didn't see anything about Github there.
Re: Tiobe stats- Basically, if you're creating a project, you'll likely use Java, C/C++, or PHP.
Btw, how annoying is it when you have to have Javascript to show a simple HTML page (tiobe.com)? Maybe Python or.NET (C#/VB.NET). Anything else is probably legacy/special requirements (COBOL) or trying to be a hipster (Ruby).
Oracle's fighting with Google over how they screwed over Sun. Sun's Netbeans Java IDE heretofore had the most innovative free Java GUI designer, the so-called Matisse. Matisse gave Netbeans a major edge vs. Eclipse, the other popular free IDE. And Sun sold services based on Netbeans.
Now, granted, Google's done a lot of stuff out of the goodness of their hearts. But when you have a chance to stick to someone (Oracle) who's suing you, and also get PR points in the process, why not?
>Isn't Java getting on in years and in need of being replaced by something more modern?
Yeah, just like C and C++ are about to be replaced (not).
Oh, and it's the top language on Sourceforge with 45k projects (C++ has 35k, and PHP 29k).
So, yeah, someone's using it. In addition to the community, 90% of Fortune 500 companies use it (that seems low to me). Also see here and here.
This is not to say Sun didn't mess up their chance to be even more dominant. Execs generally tend to want to use in the enterprise what they're using personally. Hence Windows Servers, and the current push to use consumer iPhones for corporations. Sun flubbed consumer Java.
>I agree that Chrome is better, but is this not the standard Windows behaviour for a contextual menu
Yeah, might be. I just happen to much prefer the Gnome (and possible KDE) way of allowing you to make the selection with just a release of the right mouse button over Windows (stopped using it a year ago). It's one of those things where you don't notice it if you don't have it, but once you do, you don't want to not have it.
I only happened to notice just recently the craziness of the entire situation if I had to explain it to a new user:
Me: OK, right click the browser Them: Now what? Me: Release the button. Them: OK Me: Now click on such-and-such item. Them: Nothing's happening. Me: Now you have to use the other button (left-button). Them: ?? Who thought that up?
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I think the advocates of Wikileaking are making the following argument:
Openness is a virtue in itself. Hence, it doesn't matter if there any possible negative effects that can be traced to such a leak.
An analogue would be free speech. Most liberals (old sense of the word) believe in free speech as a good in itself. So, while accepting all the benefits of free speech, they disclaim any responsibility for any bad effects.
Otherwise, each application of free speech would be decided on the merits, and not on principle. E.g., violent video games, pornography, etc.
Whether that's a good thing depends on your philosophy.
OK, that's good to hear. It was taking so long, I stopped watching for updates.
before or after Duke Nukem Next?
The problem is, NetNeut has gotten mixed up with the Fairness Doctrine, somehow, in the minds of conservatives.
Now, the Fairness Doctrine actually *was* a plot to tame the Right, courtesy of JFK who was being pummeled by right-wing radio at the time.
However, conservatives haven't been able to understand NetNeut is nothing like the Fairness Doctrine.
Are the graphical tools for git up to the level of SVN? Like TortoiseSvn or others?
>there is precedent for government action being more harmful than expected.
True that. Examples include the Food "Safety" Bill, the student loan takeover, probably Obamacare, and some others.
That's what makes it so easy to view the NN as the same.
Also, the propensity for the government to mess up regulation (see farm policy) makes you think you're between a rock and a hard place with NetN.
but basically it's a fairy tale about if the FCC had started regulating interstate electronic communications in 1993, and how it would have mandated Minitel compatibility for electronic devices.
It's amazing how many people have gotten taken in with the misconception that the FCC is "taking over" the Internet. The simplest analogy is toll roads: they're built by private companies, but the government doesn't allow the operators to favor or ban traffic of competing contractors (or anyone else, for that matter).
Best comment in the whole thread. Unfortunately, I'm posting instead of modding.
Anyway, all the naysaying repsonses probably (for the most part) be judged to be slow typists sour grapes.
After all, why would someone who knows how type disparage the ability to do so?
It's like a knowledge worker who claims he mainly just "thinks" and doesn't need to know how to write. Typing is the ability to computerize your thoughts after you're done thinking.
seemingly most famous imaginary property troll is ...
Wayne Crookes?
Classic.
What I don't understand is why they think this is even necessary in the new world we just entered a month or so ago.
Why should they have to buy up domain names?
Why not just have their friends at Visa/Mastercard deny the ability of anyone to buy a domain name which could (potentially) be used to engage in "illegal activities"?
Or have their friends in Obama's office of imaginary rights enforcement seize the domains for trafficking in stolen property?
Or have the host (Amazon or whoever) drop the websites? Paypal refuse service? EveryDNS drop the domain records?
>knowingly facilitating the violation of such copyright laws
So where does that stop?
-The office stationary supply store that sold Post-It notes for pirate's office to write passwords on?
-The 7-11 that sold Doritos for their webmaster?
-Dell for selling them a laptop?
-Intel for selling a CPU to Dell who sold it onward?
-Google for linking to them?
-And everybody else for linking to Google?
>Exactly, you are used to the noise of the engine. You'll get used to oder cues.
I'm trying to figure out if that was "other" or "odor" you were trying to say, and if the latter, awaiting our forthcoming "ring-smell" overlords with trepidation.
Especially when it's restarting, I've wondered why it has to try to load huge numbers of tabs all at once. Why not load 3-4 tabs, then the next 3-4, etc?
You often have a large number of tabs at startup because you click on Restart after installing an extension, and you had tabs open.
Btw, what happens to the disk cache re: those tabs? When FF is running, it caches pages so they won't have to be downloaded again. So why does it download again when you restart? Why not read it off the disk?
says a General:
Let's give every soldier a smartphone.
Oh, and, to insure 100% privacy and OPSEC, let's have our Chinese suppliers build a "do not track" button into the device, which we'll tell the troops to activate when going out on a mission.
No, I realize that (time already invested in spreadsheets). But that's for existing companies.
For new companies, you can make all your stuff in FOSS programs (like OO Calc spreadsheets) in the first place.
It's also true that Excel has an easier macro system that OO (which I've posted on before here).
The stuff you mention is basically why FOSS usage in a company has to come from the top, from the company founders. Create a new Internet startup, use only FOSS (PHP/Java/Python, etc. for infra, OpenOffice/Google Office for documents, etc.).
Have it in the company culture from the beginning. And you don't have weird legacy VBA scripts or XLS to deal with.
OK, thanks for that. I thought for a second that the need to recruit the Twitter generation had led the military to make more changes than I would have imagined.
Is it really? I didn't know that.
Don't get me wrong. I applaud the move.
But this is also going to definitely decrease Matisse's uniqueness.
They let you take cellphones out of live fire exercises?
Did you mistakenly use the same href for your 2nd link? I didn't see anything about Github there.
Re: Tiobe stats- Basically, if you're creating a project, you'll likely use Java, C/C++, or PHP.
Btw, how annoying is it when you have to have Javascript to show a simple HTML page (tiobe.com)? Maybe Python or .NET (C#/VB.NET). Anything else is probably legacy/special requirements (COBOL) or trying to be a hipster (Ruby).
There's another aspect to this.
Oracle's fighting with Google over how they screwed over Sun. Sun's Netbeans Java IDE heretofore had the most innovative free Java GUI designer, the so-called Matisse. Matisse gave Netbeans a major edge vs. Eclipse, the other popular free IDE. And Sun sold services based on Netbeans.
Now, granted, Google's done a lot of stuff out of the goodness of their hearts. But when you have a chance to stick to someone (Oracle) who's suing you, and also get PR points in the process, why not?
>Isn't Java getting on in years and in need of being replaced by something more modern?
Yeah, just like C and C++ are about to be replaced (not).
Oh, and it's the top language on Sourceforge with 45k projects (C++ has 35k, and PHP 29k).
So, yeah, someone's using it. In addition to the community, 90% of Fortune 500 companies use it (that seems low to me). Also see here and here.
This is not to say Sun didn't mess up their chance to be even more dominant. Execs generally tend to want to use in the enterprise what they're using personally. Hence Windows Servers, and the current push to use consumer iPhones for corporations. Sun flubbed consumer Java.
OK, so the clearance is provisional.
So why does the bank allow funds to be depleted from the account?
That's the dumb part.
But why should there be a 3-6 mo. dispute period? Make it binary.
Money in account? Y/N. If Y, payment cleared for sending to recipient bank. Otherwise N.
Period.
Or if the sender bank wants to wait a few days and call their accountholder before sending the money, fine. But verify, and confirm, or deny.
>I agree that Chrome is better, but is this not the standard Windows behaviour for a contextual menu
Yeah, might be. I just happen to much prefer the Gnome (and possible KDE) way of allowing you to make the selection with just a release of the right mouse button over Windows (stopped using it a year ago). It's one of those things where you don't notice it if you don't have it, but once you do, you don't want to not have it.
I only happened to notice just recently the craziness of the entire situation if I had to explain it to a new user:
Me: OK, right click the browser
Them: Now what?
Me: Release the button.
Them: OK
Me: Now click on such-and-such item.
Them: Nothing's happening.
Me: Now you have to use the other button (left-button).
Them: ?? Who thought that up?