And they've posted some changes to comply with GPL. Not bad, guys. I love my Volt, it's a cool car, and I charge it with off-grid solar. It might not fly, but hey, I'll take this over the George Jetson car, because I can actually have this.
I do farnsworth fusors here, on my own money - no external funding/begging required. They're a nice research source of neutrons. Their "dynamic equilibrium" turns out to be the place they are the least efficient, however. I might be the first person to have discovered that and some fairly large increases in Q due to perturbing that.
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Peer reviewed journals? That's for academics trying to keep others out of the club. Grow a pair boys, and do as I do - just make it all open source - we keep no secrets, and yes, many of us dupe one another's results, we're doing science truer to the original ideals than the so called "pros" more often than not.
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One thing I don't like about tokomaks - energy disperses into too many degrees of freedom and while it radiates well from all of them (losses), it only makes fusion when there are near collisions. I'm working with an idea here that also takes into account various conservation laws tokomak (all thermal approaches) ignore - like spin conservation, to see if I can mess around with the relative probabilities of the 3 possible DD reactions - and it's looking promising.
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Focus fusion is interesting, but there are some engineering problems Lerner brushes off I can't go along with as easily. Bussard's thing - well, where's even a small scale one we can compare with Farnsworth/Hirsch/Meeks? All talk, no results - even amateur - so far. NIF is as they say, a way to test nukes without breaking some treaties about testing nukes, they add an energy spin to it for PR purposes primarily.
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See my sig for links to my work, and some of our group. It's not always at the top of the discussion boards, but there's plenty there, and some movies on DCFusor's youtube channel.
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Best of luck MIT - while I don't think tokomaks are the way - too many degrees of freedom - I hope for success for us all!
Check your facts. The Volt process began while Bush was prez and well before the bailout. It was shepherded by Bob Lutz, a conservative who doesn't believe in AGW. It was not forced on GM.
Every single "fact" you state is dead wrong - try google or any actual source other than Faux News or R lame-barf.
I'm a conservative myself. I think obummer is a total tool and loser.
If they don't compare it to PV solar, I guess like "call for price" you already know the answer.
My question too. I've been off-grid on PV solar since 1980 or so, even charge my Volt with it. 3k degrees won't be reached easily or often with the tech I know, even with trackers and concentrators. So not only "how much energy does it make vs the same sq feet of PV panels" is in question, but how much per average day per sq foot when it's partly cloudy and so forth. Gheesh and then, electricity is hard enough to store - but hydrogen? Natures way of storing hydrogen is, unfortunately, as a hydrocarbon. I guess that's why my car is electric.
You have to make the millions first, then you can give them to yourself and live off the interest (well, successful trading, the government has made interest illegal).
That's exactly what I did - and since I spent some principal on the car and solar, yeah, I get less interest, and the money is still piling up.
Then ttac has it wrong. Gm says otherwise, and there's a whole slashdot like foruim that tracks these kind of things at: http://gm-volt.com/forum/index.php
You have to know that not all journalism is deserving of the name. In this case, they couldn't even read a press release right?
Agreed. Now get out your crystal ball and tell me what gasoline is going to cost over the life of the Volt, or any other car. The compute the even higher initial cost of buying nearly 10k worth of solar to charge it free for the next 3 decades (how long I've been off the grid without any failures in the PV system). Then remember '73 and the time value of waiting in lines for gasoline. Then add in the maintenance costs for an IC engine and transmission that can't rev match before clutching, so it wears. Then compare the total initial cost to the cost of any other car that is as quiet, as fun to drive and as agile - all of those cost more than the Volt, and they only have the one drivetrain. Then lets talk peace of mind. You can run the battery down on the Volt, it'll just switch to gasoline. Then run it out of gas - and you've still got 5 miles to limp to a gas or charging station. If you're going to play TCO games, use real numbers, one of which (price of gas) you can't predict. Oops, total logic fail. How about being sure of transport almost no matter what happens for the rest of your life? As an older guy, this looks like a fantastic deal, which is why I went for it, and am completely happy with it and the new solar gear I bought to charge it for free going forward. I drive normally (or a little hotter than normal because it's fun in this car) and have used zero gasoline in 2012 doing it. I've paid a power company zero since 1980. This kind of thing is how the rich get richer. You might try that plan, it's worked out for me.
Three are a number of vastly important features in this car you cannot get in a Cruze for any price. No turbo lag. Quiet. No gasoline consumption. I know, I own both. Oh, the Volt corners so much better it isn't funny. It's ridiculously more agile in traffic. Everything in a base volt is nicer than a maxed out Cruze, from leather quality through the phone and stereo.
You can fix that - buy solar panels, or do the deal with the power company to demand greener power - most offer it. I just did the panels and went totally off grid, with enough capacity to run my Volt. It's pretty cool skipping both the gas station and the power bill....money is just piling up that used to go to those before.
Sour grapes much? You noisy, bad handling encono box ain't no Volt. Wanna race title for title, one either mileage or speed? Drive one, drive an Audi or BMW, and compare. Your piece of crap isn't comparable.
Be sure and drive them all first. The Volt is more like a good European car, not like the Japanese econo boxes. It's a luxury car and should be compared to others like it. The PIP doesn't measure up - no range to speak of, and it's still noisy and flimsy by comparison....which is why it's cheap - it's cheap.
Amd yeah, I'm a conservative myself. Sadly, that means no party has much interest for me - Right wingnut fascists who want to tell me what to do in my bedroom annoy me as much as the left wing ones who want to tell me what to do at the doctor's office.
Yes, I own one. I loved this car at first sight, then it grew on me. I now understand apple fanbois even though I'll never be one.
GE's total buy, which they justify as it will actually save them money - is only 12k total, over some years. Volts sold over 2k last month, of which 12 were fleet sales.
I did. I have nice, not quite fully loaded 2012 Volt, which I charge from my off-grid solar system. Yes, it's an expensive car as cars this size go, unless you compare it to cars of similar quality, quietness, handling, quickness, then it's actually kinda cheaper than the Audi or BMW alternatives - by a good bit.
I did have to upgrade my solar system a bit to be able to charge the car up more than once a day on good days. This has significant side benefits as when I don't need the excess for the car, I have it for the homestead/campus, and it's allowed me to not need backup generators during long periods of "dark" any more, as the larger array now makes enough even on cloudy days to run the computers, machines, welders and so on.
So, other than using my truck to take trash to the dumpster weekly, which uses about 4-5 gallons a year - I am now almost totally free of any use for gasoline at all.
And, I already didn't have a power bill, except for backup generation, which I no longer need either.
What the flying fuck is that worth? You can't say because you've never been there, and will whine and complain about it instead of doing what I did to get there - as in spending less than I made till I could afford to build my house, make it solar off grid, and buy this car - all with cash.
That's who buys them. Rich people who want to stay that way, or not have to be a wage slave to live. I get way over the usual 80% of my driving all electric - more like 95%, and am showing 165 mpg over the car's life so far (since oct 2011). The only reason it's not infinite is trips to the out of range dealer, and the deliberate burning of some gas (you have some control over this) when it's super cold outside, as you get both the shaft power and the heat that way - for once, almost 100% energy utilisation of the gas.
I traded in a 2010 Camaro SS for this car, and don't miss it. It's actually more agile, pulls almost the same gees in the corners, and is more fun to drive, with better transient response and flatter cornering.
I didn't make enough to get the full tax credit last year. Oh, crap - I'm not rich enough yet. So I wound up paying almost the same as I did for the Camaro for what is a far better car in almost every way. Yeah, it limits out a 101 mph, unlike the Camaro, but it's larger inside, you can see out better, it's tons quieter and better riding, and more agile in traffic by a lot. Everyone who gets a ride loves it, and everyone who I let drive it then wants to buy one.
Talk your trash AFTER you know your shit - drive one first. This car has fanboys that would make the apple crowd blush, and there's a very good reason for it.
You can whine that they got government help all you want - all the car companies did. So, where's any other car at anything like this price and anywhere near this good? Leafs suck - and sell far fewer, even though they cost less. Whatcha gonna do when you run one down? Order up a tow truck with a generator and wait hours to charge it? Prius owners who drive Volts trade them in - the Prius is a cheap, noisy econo box by comparison - and ain't that much cheaper.
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I did do the research and I'm not the AC above. I just didn't go to a rabid gun control site to get made-up statistics that tickle my confirmation bias, like you did.
For congress, and they were, as usual, too spineless to tell the TSA to take a hike. After all, it's congress who spent all that money to line Chertoff's pockets (guess who makes the useless scanners now), and they didn't want to look bad for it - hearings are just photo-ops for the next election, to give the appearance of "doing something" when of course, the only thing going on is bribes and blackmail. Ever notice how DHS gets every excessive dime they ask for? Well, I know if I had warrantess wiretaps and all that kind of thing, the first thing I'd do is get the dirt on congress for future blackmail. This would occur to any bureaucrat in a few seconds. So you have to assume that's why these agencies never get seriously questioned about their ridiculous antics and waste, eh?
Pennies had value...it was a useful chunk of currency, there were even things priced at a penny - and 5 and dime stores. By printing more money than the increase in true goods and services, the money has been devalued so badly that a penny isn't worth it to carry anymore, much less make. But it's not like that's our fault. We didn't continuously devalue the currency as a stealth tax on everyone - they did.
A $20 dollar gold piece, on the other hand, back in the cowboy days, would buy you a Colt Peacemaker, a holster and ammo, a suit, and a night on the town with a saloon girl.
That hasn't changed much - that gold coin is now worth about $2k. Won't get you the Peacemaker - it's appreciated more than gold (who knew), but if you substitute a Glock or something cheaper yet, you're still right about there. It'll be a cheap suit and a cheap whore - but it was about like that then, too.
Get a concealed carry license and keep the gun on you (obviously, learn to use it well, that part can be fun). It won't get stolen. I live in a place where just about everyone has guns - it's a tool for almost daily use out here in farm country. There are some criminals that live here, but there's no crime here. It's too damn dangerous as they might not get the expected "due process" if caught, and they know it.
I was once burgled on several days successively when I lived in the DC area. Kids even made a camp-fire on my kitchen floor. Stole onyx and marble chess pieces to skip on the pond, and coin collections to buy cokes. The cops said, well, it's just kids - not much we can do, we don't have time to stake out your home even though it's been burgled 3 times in three days at roughly known times of day. Sigh.
I told them - I hope it's YOUR kid, because tomorrow, I'm going to park my car 5 blocks away, sneak back here, and sit behind the front door with my.44 magnum and blow away the first thing through the door.
Next day - the cops showed up. It WAS one of their kids, along with others, and the cop, realising where all that cool stuff his kid was dragging home, figured it all out and busted them.
Sometimes they need a reminder to do their job. It worked that time anyway.
I've run a few websites, some for sci/tech (see sig). I always put in a section for "it almost worked" as if one can put one's ego aside, it's usually the most entertaining stuff. "It seemed like a good idea at the time" borders on "Hey y'all, watch this!" for entertainment. The problem is - no one wants to submit stuff in that category, even though its not only entertaining, but would save others from what seems like a good idea - until you know better. That ego thing...
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And they've posted some changes to comply with GPL. Not bad, guys. I love my Volt, it's a cool car, and I charge it with off-grid solar. It might not fly, but hey, I'll take this over the George Jetson car, because I can actually have this.
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Peer reviewed journals? That's for academics trying to keep others out of the club. Grow a pair boys, and do as I do - just make it all open source - we keep no secrets, and yes, many of us dupe one another's results, we're doing science truer to the original ideals than the so called "pros" more often than not.
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One thing I don't like about tokomaks - energy disperses into too many degrees of freedom and while it radiates well from all of them (losses), it only makes fusion when there are near collisions. I'm working with an idea here that also takes into account various conservation laws tokomak (all thermal approaches) ignore - like spin conservation, to see if I can mess around with the relative probabilities of the 3 possible DD reactions - and it's looking promising.
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Focus fusion is interesting, but there are some engineering problems Lerner brushes off I can't go along with as easily. Bussard's thing - well, where's even a small scale one we can compare with Farnsworth/Hirsch/Meeks? All talk, no results - even amateur - so far. NIF is as they say, a way to test nukes without breaking some treaties about testing nukes, they add an energy spin to it for PR purposes primarily.
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See my sig for links to my work, and some of our group. It's not always at the top of the discussion boards, but there's plenty there, and some movies on DCFusor's youtube channel.
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Best of luck MIT - while I don't think tokomaks are the way - too many degrees of freedom - I hope for success for us all!
Check your facts. The Volt process began while Bush was prez and well before the bailout. It was shepherded by Bob Lutz, a conservative who doesn't believe in AGW. It was not forced on GM. Every single "fact" you state is dead wrong - try google or any actual source other than Faux News or R lame-barf. I'm a conservative myself. I think obummer is a total tool and loser.
Because even in the primaries, who you get to vote for is decided by unelected party bosses - you still don't have any real input.
Sad truth is, you don't get to vote for anyone not pre-vetted by party apparatus, so your vote is null anyway. You still don't get it.
If they don't compare it to PV solar, I guess like "call for price" you already know the answer.
My question too. I've been off-grid on PV solar since 1980 or so, even charge my Volt with it. 3k degrees won't be reached easily or often with the tech I know, even with trackers and concentrators. So not only "how much energy does it make vs the same sq feet of PV panels" is in question, but how much per average day per sq foot when it's partly cloudy and so forth. Gheesh and then, electricity is hard enough to store - but hydrogen? Natures way of storing hydrogen is, unfortunately, as a hydrocarbon. I guess that's why my car is electric.
You have to make the millions first, then you can give them to yourself and live off the interest (well, successful trading, the government has made interest illegal). That's exactly what I did - and since I spent some principal on the car and solar, yeah, I get less interest, and the money is still piling up.
I guess you have to post AC if you're astroturfing and making up numbers out of your ass, eh?
Then ttac has it wrong. Gm says otherwise, and there's a whole slashdot like foruim that tracks these kind of things at: http://gm-volt.com/forum/index.php You have to know that not all journalism is deserving of the name. In this case, they couldn't even read a press release right?
Agreed. Now get out your crystal ball and tell me what gasoline is going to cost over the life of the Volt, or any other car. The compute the even higher initial cost of buying nearly 10k worth of solar to charge it free for the next 3 decades (how long I've been off the grid without any failures in the PV system). Then remember '73 and the time value of waiting in lines for gasoline. Then add in the maintenance costs for an IC engine and transmission that can't rev match before clutching, so it wears. Then compare the total initial cost to the cost of any other car that is as quiet, as fun to drive and as agile - all of those cost more than the Volt, and they only have the one drivetrain. Then lets talk peace of mind. You can run the battery down on the Volt, it'll just switch to gasoline. Then run it out of gas - and you've still got 5 miles to limp to a gas or charging station. If you're going to play TCO games, use real numbers, one of which (price of gas) you can't predict. Oops, total logic fail. How about being sure of transport almost no matter what happens for the rest of your life? As an older guy, this looks like a fantastic deal, which is why I went for it, and am completely happy with it and the new solar gear I bought to charge it for free going forward. I drive normally (or a little hotter than normal because it's fun in this car) and have used zero gasoline in 2012 doing it. I've paid a power company zero since 1980. This kind of thing is how the rich get richer. You might try that plan, it's worked out for me.
Three are a number of vastly important features in this car you cannot get in a Cruze for any price. No turbo lag. Quiet. No gasoline consumption. I know, I own both. Oh, the Volt corners so much better it isn't funny. It's ridiculously more agile in traffic. Everything in a base volt is nicer than a maxed out Cruze, from leather quality through the phone and stereo.
You can fix that - buy solar panels, or do the deal with the power company to demand greener power - most offer it. I just did the panels and went totally off grid, with enough capacity to run my Volt. It's pretty cool skipping both the gas station and the power bill....money is just piling up that used to go to those before.
Sour grapes much? You noisy, bad handling encono box ain't no Volt. Wanna race title for title, one either mileage or speed? Drive one, drive an Audi or BMW, and compare. Your piece of crap isn't comparable.
Yes, I own one. I loved this car at first sight, then it grew on me. I now understand apple fanbois even though I'll never be one.
GE's total buy, which they justify as it will actually save them money - is only 12k total, over some years. Volts sold over 2k last month, of which 12 were fleet sales.
I did have to upgrade my solar system a bit to be able to charge the car up more than once a day on good days. This has significant side benefits as when I don't need the excess for the car, I have it for the homestead/campus, and it's allowed me to not need backup generators during long periods of "dark" any more, as the larger array now makes enough even on cloudy days to run the computers, machines, welders and so on.
So, other than using my truck to take trash to the dumpster weekly, which uses about 4-5 gallons a year - I am now almost totally free of any use for gasoline at all.
And, I already didn't have a power bill, except for backup generation, which I no longer need either.
What the flying fuck is that worth? You can't say because you've never been there, and will whine and complain about it instead of doing what I did to get there - as in spending less than I made till I could afford to build my house, make it solar off grid, and buy this car - all with cash.
That's who buys them. Rich people who want to stay that way, or not have to be a wage slave to live. I get way over the usual 80% of my driving all electric - more like 95%, and am showing 165 mpg over the car's life so far (since oct 2011). The only reason it's not infinite is trips to the out of range dealer, and the deliberate burning of some gas (you have some control over this) when it's super cold outside, as you get both the shaft power and the heat that way - for once, almost 100% energy utilisation of the gas.
I traded in a 2010 Camaro SS for this car, and don't miss it. It's actually more agile, pulls almost the same gees in the corners, and is more fun to drive, with better transient response and flatter cornering.
I didn't make enough to get the full tax credit last year. Oh, crap - I'm not rich enough yet. So I wound up paying almost the same as I did for the Camaro for what is a far better car in almost every way. Yeah, it limits out a 101 mph, unlike the Camaro, but it's larger inside, you can see out better, it's tons quieter and better riding, and more agile in traffic by a lot. Everyone who gets a ride loves it, and everyone who I let drive it then wants to buy one.
Talk your trash AFTER you know your shit - drive one first. This car has fanboys that would make the apple crowd blush, and there's a very good reason for it. You can whine that they got government help all you want - all the car companies did. So, where's any other car at anything like this price and anywhere near this good? Leafs suck - and sell far fewer, even though they cost less. Whatcha gonna do when you run one down? Order up a tow truck with a generator and wait hours to charge it? Prius owners who drive Volts trade them in - the Prius is a cheap, noisy econo box by comparison - and ain't that much cheaper.
Perl, Glade. Already do.
I did do the research and I'm not the AC above. I just didn't go to a rabid gun control site to get made-up statistics that tickle my confirmation bias, like you did.
You are correct in this - and it was part of Bruce's earlier arguments as well. It's CYA politics at its finest.
For congress, and they were, as usual, too spineless to tell the TSA to take a hike. After all, it's congress who spent all that money to line Chertoff's pockets (guess who makes the useless scanners now), and they didn't want to look bad for it - hearings are just photo-ops for the next election, to give the appearance of "doing something" when of course, the only thing going on is bribes and blackmail. Ever notice how DHS gets every excessive dime they ask for? Well, I know if I had warrantess wiretaps and all that kind of thing, the first thing I'd do is get the dirt on congress for future blackmail. This would occur to any bureaucrat in a few seconds. So you have to assume that's why these agencies never get seriously questioned about their ridiculous antics and waste, eh?
A $20 dollar gold piece, on the other hand, back in the cowboy days, would buy you a Colt Peacemaker, a holster and ammo, a suit, and a night on the town with a saloon girl.
That hasn't changed much - that gold coin is now worth about $2k. Won't get you the Peacemaker - it's appreciated more than gold (who knew), but if you substitute a Glock or something cheaper yet, you're still right about there. It'll be a cheap suit and a cheap whore - but it was about like that then, too.
Anybody get it yet?
Get a concealed carry license and keep the gun on you (obviously, learn to use it well, that part can be fun). It won't get stolen. I live in a place where just about everyone has guns - it's a tool for almost daily use out here in farm country. There are some criminals that live here, but there's no crime here. It's too damn dangerous as they might not get the expected "due process" if caught, and they know it. I was once burgled on several days successively when I lived in the DC area. Kids even made a camp-fire on my kitchen floor. Stole onyx and marble chess pieces to skip on the pond, and coin collections to buy cokes. The cops said, well, it's just kids - not much we can do, we don't have time to stake out your home even though it's been burgled 3 times in three days at roughly known times of day. Sigh. I told them - I hope it's YOUR kid, because tomorrow, I'm going to park my car 5 blocks away, sneak back here, and sit behind the front door with my .44 magnum and blow away the first thing through the door.
Next day - the cops showed up. It WAS one of their kids, along with others, and the cop, realising where all that cool stuff his kid was dragging home, figured it all out and busted them.
Sometimes they need a reminder to do their job. It worked that time anyway.
I've run a few websites, some for sci/tech (see sig). I always put in a section for "it almost worked" as if one can put one's ego aside, it's usually the most entertaining stuff. "It seemed like a good idea at the time" borders on "Hey y'all, watch this!" for entertainment. The problem is - no one wants to submit stuff in that category, even though its not only entertaining, but would save others from what seems like a good idea - until you know better. That ego thing...
And cheaper. War is always about money.