You'll never convince the looters that what they scheme is death and misery for all. Especially the "illuminated" looters here on Slashdot, and even moreso now that they can keep leeching off of their parent's health insurance until they're 26.
People cite Enron, and I'm not sure they understand the situation with Enron. What the people at the helm of Enron did was already illegal. The employees suffered because they invested all of their 401k into Enron. That's just plain stupid, man.
The greatest steps forward for mankind happened when man was free to build and create on his own, and the largest steps back (including the largest losses of life) happened when an all-powerful government was allowed to run a muck.
Name the small government that killed 20 million people?
Name that world-changing inventions that came from all-powerful government control?
You're a good case for the new political spectrum:
Total Government vs. No Government
"Republicans" that tell you you can't smoke this and that, and can't have sex with him or her, are closer to the Total Government side. Likewise, "Democrats" that tell you you can't own this gun or eat this or that fall near the same place.
This is why I keep asking people to cite examples. Between Youtube and all the websites dedicated to destroying the man, it should be fairly easy to catch him lying or foaming at the mouth.
Again, please cite examples of rhetorical sleight of hand. If you've seen this, I would like to see it as well. I don't watch him all that often, but if I'm missing some sneaky word-smithing, I would like to know.
I prefer clarity to agreement. I would watch less than I do now if this were true.
Again. It's obvious you don't know anything about what Jesus said (based on what people wrote about him). Everything he said and taught was about YOU the individual choosing to give, choosing to change, and choosing to serve. That was the point. Through you choosing to do these things, your heart would be changed. Nothing he did or said, based on what we know, pointed to redistribution through government or collective means.
This is what I mean by corporate. Not Corporate (Verizon, Comcast)
When someone talks about "corporate worship" do you assume that they're going to a business that's also a church?
As far as profit goes, which do you think (either) Jesus would have preferred? A guy that makes a million dollars and chooses to give 10% (or more) to good causes that help build other people up or a guy that is not allowed to make a million dollars because it's not fair?
So you don't turn it on particularly often, but you tune in enough to know how his program and delivery works? Glenn Beck was the first person on TV/Radio/Internet to point out that George Bush was just as much as a dirt-bag as anyone else. Also the first to point out that Republicans are intruding in your life and liberties just as much as the Democrats are. The MoreGove/LessGov continuum instead of Bush=Right/Clinton=Left. Nazi=Total Government.(Left) Sharia=TotalGovernment(Left) Communism=TotalGovernment(Left) Anarchy=NoGovernment(Right) Is this not true?
Listen, I don't like the guy more than any other commenter on TV and his delivery is annoying as hell, but his Founder's Friday series was pretty good. Everything he talked about and presented, I was able to research and prove true.
As far as speculating and leaving everyone else to fill in the possible details...
Can the Chamber of Commerce prove they didn't get foreign funding? Can Obama?
Can Jon Stewart provide evidence that he didn't rape and murder a young girl in 1989?
Excellent. I plan on going to Culver's tonight with my family. Please give me an address when I can send the bill. Oh, also my car needs about half a tank of gas and I'm going to go ahead and up my already frugal cable package to include all of the premium channels while you're footing the bill.
So now it's "right-wing radicalism" to change the constitution? The very thing it was set up to allow for? Interesting point of view, I guess. Was it left-wing radicalism that added the amendments (in question) in the first place?
No one forced you to turn him on. Should the masses tell Jon Stewart how to run his show? I would argue both men are self depreciating and ask their audience to do their own research on the topics.
And all the Patriot Act sunsets removed by who? OH! Right! Obama.
George Bush was no more conservative than Obama is. Stop thinking in terms of Donkeys and Elephants. Think more government and less government.
Expand your political spectrum a bit to actually include liberty. Nothing that George Bush did, with the exception of striking back at the people that attacked us on 9/11, had anything to do with liberty and less government.
This. I can't get any cable service other than Comcast because, thanks to the government, Comcast is the ONLY cable company allowed to sell services in my area. Thanks Uncle Sam!
Anyone that still believes Right and Left are limited to donkey and elephant is ignorant. More government or less government - there's your right and left.
Also, did you check into why Republicans might have voted against certain tax breaks? Knowing what I know about recent bills Democrats have wanted passed, it probably contained a line requiring all financial transactions over $600 to include a 1099 or something equally outrageous.
Idiotic. There are millions of things that could kill you on the road. Citing this particular instance as a reason to restrict liberty is moronic. Obviously we're not "letting the problem happen", and no one WANTS people to crash their car. You just have to understand that in a society based on liberty, you take some fucking risk.
We need to ban alcohol again? Because when I get hit and killed by a drunk driver, I'll be sure to haunt you.
This is no different than spending money on movies or booze or enjoyment in general. What do you get when you pay $15 to go see a movie? Typically sticky shoes and the memory of a lousy movie. What do you get when you buy a $15 bottle of booze? Frequent trips to the bathroom?
It's all about what you find enjoyable. Spend money on entertainment any way you wish, IMO. It all costs real money, and is worth what you feel it to be worth.
Bad analogy. A closer one would be asking to drive on the road that the worker created, but being denied the road. No one is asking for his pens and pencils. Only the product of his effort.
Right. Tell me about all the damage that little oil company did to the environment again? You know, the little guy that donated all that money to Obama's pockets?
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You'll never convince the looters that what they scheme is death and misery for all. Especially the "illuminated" looters here on Slashdot, and even moreso now that they can keep leeching off of their parent's health insurance until they're 26.
People cite Enron, and I'm not sure they understand the situation with Enron. What the people at the helm of Enron did was already illegal. The employees suffered because they invested all of their 401k into Enron. That's just plain stupid, man.
The greatest steps forward for mankind happened when man was free to build and create on his own, and the largest steps back (including the largest losses of life) happened when an all-powerful government was allowed to run a muck.
Name the small government that killed 20 million people?
Name that world-changing inventions that came from all-powerful government control?
So you basically prefer liberty all around.
You're a good case for the new political spectrum:
Total Government vs. No Government
"Republicans" that tell you you can't smoke this and that, and can't have sex with him or her, are closer to the Total Government side. Likewise, "Democrats" that tell you you can't own this gun or eat this or that fall near the same place.
This is why I keep asking people to cite examples. Between Youtube and all the websites dedicated to destroying the man, it should be fairly easy to catch him lying or foaming at the mouth.
Again, please cite examples of rhetorical sleight of hand. If you've seen this, I would like to see it as well. I don't watch him all that often, but if I'm missing some sneaky word-smithing, I would like to know.
I prefer clarity to agreement. I would watch less than I do now if this were true.
Again. It's obvious you don't know anything about what Jesus said (based on what people wrote about him). Everything he said and taught was about YOU the individual choosing to give, choosing to change, and choosing to serve. That was the point. Through you choosing to do these things, your heart would be changed. Nothing he did or said, based on what we know, pointed to redistribution through government or collective means.
This is what I mean by corporate. Not Corporate (Verizon, Comcast)
When someone talks about "corporate worship" do you assume that they're going to a business that's also a church?
As far as profit goes, which do you think (either) Jesus would have preferred? A guy that makes a million dollars and chooses to give 10% (or more) to good causes that help build other people up or a guy that is not allowed to make a million dollars because it's not fair?
Lulz. Obviously you don't know anything about Bible Jesus. Everything he taught was to advance personal conviction. Not corporate. Good try though.
So you don't turn it on particularly often, but you tune in enough to know how his program and delivery works? Glenn Beck was the first person on TV/Radio/Internet to point out that George Bush was just as much as a dirt-bag as anyone else. Also the first to point out that Republicans are intruding in your life and liberties just as much as the Democrats are. The MoreGove/LessGov continuum instead of Bush=Right/Clinton=Left. Nazi=Total Government.(Left) Sharia=TotalGovernment(Left) Communism=TotalGovernment(Left) Anarchy=NoGovernment(Right) Is this not true?
Listen, I don't like the guy more than any other commenter on TV and his delivery is annoying as hell, but his Founder's Friday series was pretty good. Everything he talked about and presented, I was able to research and prove true.
As far as speculating and leaving everyone else to fill in the possible details...
Can the Chamber of Commerce prove they didn't get foreign funding? Can Obama?
Can Jon Stewart provide evidence that he didn't rape and murder a young girl in 1989?
Please cite examples and provide us with a "central centrist" source of news. You could even paste some links.
Excellent. I plan on going to Culver's tonight with my family. Please give me an address when I can send the bill. Oh, also my car needs about half a tank of gas and I'm going to go ahead and up my already frugal cable package to include all of the premium channels while you're footing the bill.
kthx.
So now it's "right-wing radicalism" to change the constitution? The very thing it was set up to allow for? Interesting point of view, I guess. Was it left-wing radicalism that added the amendments (in question) in the first place?
Huh.
No one forced you to turn him on. Should the masses tell Jon Stewart how to run his show? I would argue both men are self depreciating and ask their audience to do their own research on the topics.
Also, can you cite some of Glenn's dishonesty?
Sure sure. Because thinking about politics as More Government vs. Less Government is bat-sh*t crazy?
Go ahead. Keep living in the George Bush vs. the world past.
And all the Patriot Act sunsets removed by who? OH! Right! Obama.
George Bush was no more conservative than Obama is. Stop thinking in terms of Donkeys and Elephants. Think more government and less government.
Expand your political spectrum a bit to actually include liberty. Nothing that George Bush did, with the exception of striking back at the people that attacked us on 9/11, had anything to do with liberty and less government.
"Liberal" as in all men want to be free to choose their own path?
Or did you mean "Liberal" as in everyone else should pay for my well-being?
This. I can't get any cable service other than Comcast because, thanks to the government, Comcast is the ONLY cable company allowed to sell services in my area. Thanks Uncle Sam!
Damn your facts and logic! Most /. readers would rather read and post snarky comments on how evil small government types are!
Anyone that still believes Right and Left are limited to donkey and elephant is ignorant. More government or less government - there's your right and left.
Also, did you check into why Republicans might have voted against certain tax breaks? Knowing what I know about recent bills Democrats have wanted passed, it probably contained a line requiring all financial transactions over $600 to include a 1099 or something equally outrageous.
Oh wait wut?
Idiotic. There are millions of things that could kill you on the road. Citing this particular instance as a reason to restrict liberty is moronic. Obviously we're not "letting the problem happen", and no one WANTS people to crash their car. You just have to understand that in a society based on liberty, you take some fucking risk.
We need to ban alcohol again? Because when I get hit and killed by a drunk driver, I'll be sure to haunt you.
This is no different than spending money on movies or booze or enjoyment in general. What do you get when you pay $15 to go see a movie? Typically sticky shoes and the memory of a lousy movie. What do you get when you buy a $15 bottle of booze? Frequent trips to the bathroom?
It's all about what you find enjoyable. Spend money on entertainment any way you wish, IMO. It all costs real money, and is worth what you feel it to be worth.
Bad analogy. A closer one would be asking to drive on the road that the worker created, but being denied the road. No one is asking for his pens and pencils. Only the product of his effort.
Right. Tell me about all the damage that little oil company did to the environment again? You know, the little guy that donated all that money to Obama's pockets?
Stop thinking R and D. They're all the same.
Be still my beating heart. A cogent, level-headed argument/comment on slashdot. And a good one at that.
lawl. Sure sure. Incidentally, I am the son of a now deposed king in a small African nation called....